Brianna Denison, 19, UNR, Reno, 1/20/08[BODY FOUND]

[omsk99]

Originally posted by butterfly28
I just called the search line set up for Brianna to get information about seaches this weekend. I asked about searching Sunday and was told yes they are planning searches on both days this weekend unless "something happens". I asked if it that was based on how the weather will be and she said "no, if something breaks loose tomorrow we will cancel the searches for Sunday".

Is this a normal thing to say? It sounded off to me but then again I have never done this.... [/*]

It makes no sense to me, unless they mean a break in the case :shrug:

P.S. Will take the puppy out in about 10 min :)

[wandering]

Originally posted by omsk99


I know! It's too cold though (for SoCal standards) :D [/*]OH, you haven't known cold til you feel MI. :cool:

[omsk99]

Originally posted by wandering
OH, you haven't known cold til you feel MI. :cool: [/*]

Unfortunately, I do - lived in WI. Don't miss it!!

[ruby]

Originally posted by omsk99


Thanks so much for this link, it has so many new details we haven't heard before. One of the things that caught my eye:

"Cops say that the glass-paned front door of the residence was unlocked and other residents say that the door -- just a foot away from where Brianna was sleeping -- may have been left slightly open. "

That might explain why he picked that house in particular, because he saw that the door was ajar. Maybe that's when he saw Brianna, that would explain why he came in. [/*]
No probs!! I KNOW! Who the hell leaves the door open....jeez. It would be cold too */c there was that dusting of snow. She would have been freezing. So weird....

[ruby]

Originally posted by butterfly28
I just called the search line set up for Brianna to get information about seaches this weekend. I asked about searching Sunday and was told yes they are planning searches on both days this weekend unless "something happens". I asked if it that was based on how the weather will be and she said "no, if something breaks loose tomorrow we will cancel the searches for Sunday".

Is this a normal thing to say? It sounded off to me but then again I have never done this.... [/*]

I think they just mean if the police have new info that doesn't require them to search ne more, then it will be called off, otherwise it's still on til she's found....no worries. And thanks for helping to search, please let us know how it goes. You've got a kind heart ;)

[ruby]

Originally posted by wandering
OH, you haven't known cold til you feel MI. :cool: [/*]

....And Canada :) Balmy MINUS 10 as the high today. LOL

[omsk99]

Originally posted by ruby

No probs!! I KNOW! Who the hell leaves the door open....jeez. It would be cold too */c there was that dusting of snow. She would have been freezing. So weird.... [/*]

Really weird, and unless it was Brianna, whoever came in last and left the door not only unlocked, but slightly OPEN, must be feeling really guilty now

[omsk99]

Originally posted by ruby


....And Canada :) Balmy MINUS 10 as the high today. LOL [/*]

Hope your workout is not jogging outside ;)

[ruby]

Originally posted by omsk99


Really weird, and unless it was Brianna, whoever came in last and left the door not only unlocked, but slightly OPEN, must be feeling really guilty now [/*]

Totally...this is just strange all around. Dog didn't bark, Girl exposed to everyone looking into the house, door unlock and possible ajar, massive teddy bear gone, no trace of brianna....

[ruby]

Originally posted by omsk99


Hope your workout is not jogging outside ;) [/*]


No way, I'm bracing for our massive storm tomorrow (could get 30 cm of snow *gag*). My workouts consist of Billy Blanks Bootcamps, on DVD hehe. I only go outside in the spring, summer and fall.

[omsk99]

Originally posted by ruby


Totally...this is just strange all around. Dog didn't bark, Girl exposed to everyone looking into the house, door unlock and possible ajar, massive teddy bear gone, no trace of brianna.... [/*]

... no footprints, clear tire tracks, dogs didn't pick up her scent... Odd all around

[ruby]

Originally posted by omsk99


... no footprints, clear tire tracks, dogs didn't pick up her scent... Odd all around [/*]

Yes thank you, the list goes on

[omsk99]

Originally posted by ruby



No way, I'm bracing for our massive storm tomorrow (could get 30 cm of snow *gag*). My workouts consist of Billy Blanks Bootcamps, on DVD hehe. I only go outside in the spring, summer and fall. [/*]

Very smart of you. I've been to Toronto, but only in summer, TG! :seeya:

[omsk99]

Another new detail:

"Police aren't releasing any details on the DNA matchups, but Holladay said the evidence collected at the scene of the November attack included unopened packages of condoms."

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,327367,00.html

So he dropped then by accident? I wonder if he used a condom during the rape, since they have his DNA.

[Breazy]

I just don't see how the door could have been ajar. Even just slightly ajar would let in a cold draft that Brianna would have felt and surely she would have pushed it closed. She was on a leather couch with just a blanket and wearing a tank top with 30 degree weather. I know I would have felt it. The door was right beside the couch. She could have seen it ajar without even getting up. Sometimes my kids come in the door from my garage and just push the door short but not totally closed. I can always tell when they've done this because a cold draft can be felt all the way in the den. That is, unless it wasn't the front door, but the door in the kitchen. I still would have felt it but then again, I'm really cold natured.

[butterfly28]

Originally posted by ruby


I think they just mean if the police have new info that doesn't require them to search ne more, then it will be called off, otherwise it's still on til she's found....no worries. And thanks for helping to search, please let us know how it goes. You've got a kind heart ;) [/*]

Thank you. I will definitely post about the search and any new details I learn while there. I always read about these searches in other cities and wished I could help...

[butterfly28]

Sketch of UNR rape suspect released

http://news.rgj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080131/NEWS18/80131046&oaso=news.rgj.com%2Fbreakingnews

[butterfly28]

Oh no!!

UNR police
On January 30, 2008, a female came to police to report that she was sexually assaulted on October 22, 2007 at approximately 10:00pm on the first floor of the Brian Whalen Parking Garage. The victim reported that a male attacked her from behind, knocked her to the ground and held a gun to her head while he sexually assaulted her. The picture is a composite sketch of the suspect and the victim has described the suspect as: White Male Light Brown/Dirty Blonde 5’-8” to 5’-10” Slender to medium build Wearing a dark hooded pull over sweat shirt with no zippers or markings Athletic type nylon silver sweat pants with black stripes White Tennis Shoes The gun is described as black and silver type handgun.

http://news.rgj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080131/NEWS18/80131046&oaso=news.rgj.com%2Fbreakingnews

[butterfly28]

It looks like they are not confirming that this is the same man but there are similarities. Let's hope!

Good job for that girl being brave enough to come forward!! Because of this she may have saved someone else's life.

[factual1980]

Hello all,

I'm new to the site. I stumbled across it while doing a little investigative research; something with which many of you seem all too preoccupied.

I would like to personally applaud you all for your at-home case-cracking skills. Well done! In fact, I find it nothing short of commendable that you all sit at home, clickity-clicking on your little desktops, watching Fox News on the boob tube while trying to piece the bits of evidence together to make some sense of this tragedy.

But that's just it, don't you see? This is a horrendous tragedy; the life of a beautiful and driven young woman was lost to the hands of a mysterious disappearance, and the grand majority of you are finger-pointing and making unreasonable accusations.

My point here is not to discredit you with your hobby, but rather to scold you for your uncontrollable curiosity regarding the lives of the innocent individuals who have been caught up in the chaos.

Listen, I understand the grand majority of you are merely here to give support to Bri and her friends and family, but there are a few of you who I would be willing to consider border-line cyber stalkers. I hate to mention names, but Maelstom? Nellie? Are you really snooping around Jessica's MySpace, trying to dig up skeletons from her past? Nellie says, 'And reading through this myspace and friends' myspace, these girls were DRINKERS!"

Nellie, although I might imagine it's been quite some time since you yourself were of college age -- although I will admit that after reading your posts, I highly doubt that I'd find an institution of higher education in YOUR past should I choose to snoop about YOUR private life (punctuation goes inside quotation marks, for future reference...)-- you certainly remember being 19 or 20 years old. Surely you remember the fun in attending a party with friends or perhaps even partook in some underage drinking yourself? Deny it if you'd like, but it's a period in everyone's life where a little rebellion is imminent.

Give Bri's friends a break. Yes, they went to SWAT and alcohol may very well have been involved. Yes, they are all under 21. However, pointing fingers at Bri's friends (and Bri's friends' friends) does NOTHING to help the case. The fact that Bri's friends could have fake IDs or that they might potentially have pictures posted on their MySpaces in which they're tossing back a few beers bears absolutely no relevance. In fact, you are just preying on some poor girl's tragedy in order to interfere in the lives of those who are equally devastated during this time of grieving. Knock it off, you pathetic people. Stop living your uninteresting lives vicariously through those who have enough to grieve about already.

I am disappointed that you have nothing more constructive to do than to track down innocent girls and publicize their private lives. My thoughts and prayers go out to Bri... I sincerely hope that they catch the ******* and find her alive so that we can all place this behind us and move on with our lives.

I should probably state now that the "investigative research" to which I first alluded included my opening Google and typing in my hometown and most recent tragedy to take place in it. I was taken directly to this site, on which I instantly found my own writing to be quoted (thanks Nellie) as well as my own private MySpace to be cited. Although I do not know Bri personally, I can assure you that Jessica Deal and KT Hunter are amazing individuals whom I have been pleased to call my sisters.

I cannot for the LIFE of me believe that you, Nellie, had the audacity to post the happenings of Jessica's past legal trouble nor can I even fathom why you posted her employment information. She is a bright and intelligent young woman, a hard worker, an extremely capable student and one of my very best friends. However, she is now completely humiliated due to a horrifying tragedy beyond her control, and you are picking apart her past. You make me absolutely sick.

In doing all that snooping, did it over occur to you to maybe send KT or Jessica a message with your condolences, or maybe a quick note of inspiration to continue to fight on? These girls are suffering. Reno is suffering. We all, however, are keeping our hopes high and continue to pray that a positive discovery will soon be revealed. You all could do the same, but instead you hinder positivity with your criticism and far-fetched theories.

Although I seemed to stumble upon this site just a few days too late to make a point when an interjection was badly needed (page 13, I believe, is when the finger-pointing is in full-swing) I would like for it to be made clear to everyone here: pray for Bri, but please leave the other girls alone. They played no role in Bri's disappearance, other than realizing that it happened just a few hours too late.

We in Reno are all grieving, praying, and taking extra precautions while walking around UNR's campus in order to keep an eye out for any information concerning this serial perp. Please, continue with your support, but cut out the criticism. It would greatly be appreciated here in the Biggest Little City.

[Brooke]

Factual1980 Welcome to the board and thank you for your input. I can only imagine how hard this must be on Brianna's friends and family right now. I am praying Branna will be found and can in someway move forward with her life. The only person who can be blamed for whatever has happend to Brianna is that sick ******d who took her.


:rose: Praying Brianna comes home safely

[Cookies]

Originally posted by butterfly28
Sketch of UNR rape suspect released

http://news.rgj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080131/NEWS18/80131046&oaso=news.rgj.com%2Fbreakingnews [/*]

He looks pretty young.

[Leanne Weich]

Originally posted by Cookies


He looks pretty young. [/*]

For some reason, alhough the text is perfectly legible which accompanies the article, the picture is not. All I can see are vague outlines of eyes. Any suggestions anyone?

[ruby]

Originally posted by butterfly28
Sketch of UNR rape suspect released

http://news.rgj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080131/NEWS18/80131046&oaso=news.rgj.com%2Fbreakingnews [/*]


SNOW DAY!!! YAY. Wow that's great, finally a sketch. I hope this clicks with someone today along with all the other details! Good work.

[ruby]

HI Factual!
Thanks for posting. I understand that family members/friends reading these boards can sometimes feel offended by what is discussed. We all appreciate what you're saying and our hearts go out to you all. I'm generally on here while at work, passing time when not busy, and am not a hardcore detective in these cases, searching for new info. But I do like to discuss the new info brought forward. As for looking at My Space and Facebook pages, I've never done so, as it usually has nothing to do with the crime at hand, or even in getting a glimpse at a person. Everyone acts differently when they think no ones watching, or they aren't under the microscope. It's just college kids being college kids.

Anyway, I'm not going to look down on the posters on this thread for Bri as I believe everyone posts here with good intentions and a good heart. This blog is about debating and hashing out theories and ideas.

I hope you post more often, give insight on the case and on who these people are. As an outsider sometimes it's hard to remember that there are more victims than just the person missing. :rose: For you and your friends.

And please know that we have nothing but good intentions to bring Bri's kidnapper to justice....:)

[Cookies]

http://www.ktvn.com/global/story.asp?s=7805826


"Here's a timeline put out by officers:

On November 13th, police say a woman was battered and groped in the 400 block of College Drive near the home where Denison was abducted.

On December 16th, another woman was kidnapped from the 1400 block of North Virginia Street. She was raped and then brought home by the suspect.

On January 19th, a man tried to break into the home of that rape victim, but he was unsuccessful.

The next day on January 20th, Brianna Denison went missing from a friend's home on Mackay Court. "

[Cookies]

http://www.ktvn.com/global/story.asp?s=7805826

He definitely looks young.imo

[Rick777]

"I hate to mention names, but Maelstom? Nellie? Are you really snooping around Jessica's MySpace, trying to dig up skeletons from her past? Nellie says, 'And reading through this myspace and friends' myspace, these girls were DRINKERS!""


I'm sorry, but Myspace is a PUBLIC place, and whatever is posted there is what the people want to be seen. Nobody is forced to have a myspace. I understand alot of what you are saying, but nobody here is being mean spirited. This forum is like a puzzle and it's fun trying to find little pieces to help form a picture. Alot of people are "Drinkers"...especially college age kids. Nobody thinks less because of that.

Anyway...welcome to the board, and I hope you enjoy your time here!
:)

[butterfly28]

http://news.rgj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080131/NEWS18/80131074&oaso=news.rgj.com%2Fbreakingnews

"Reno police have linked a second sexual attack to the recent kidnapping of a 19-year-old college."

http://news.rgj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080201/NEWS18/80131042&oaso=news.rgj.com%2Fbreakingnews

The Washoe County Crime Lab has established a DNA evidence link between the Brianna’ Denison case, the Kidnap/Sexual Assault case from December and now a November 2007 case in which the suspect attempted to sexually assault the victim, Reno police spokesman Steve Frady said today.

[Cookies]

He tried it on the 19th and was unsuccesful,so he went after Bri on the 20th.:flamemad:

[Cookies]

On dec 16th-he brought the victim home.

Hm.Is this the same guy?

[Maelstrom5]

Originally posted by Rick777
"I hate to mention names, but Maelstom? Nellie? Are you really snooping around Jessica's MySpace, trying to dig up skeletons from her past? Nellie says, 'And reading through this myspace and friends' myspace, these girls were DRINKERS!""


I'm sorry, but Myspace is a PUBLIC place, and whatever is posted there is what the people want to be seen. Nobody is forced to have a myspace. I understand alot of what you are saying, but nobody here is being mean spirited. This forum is like a puzzle and it's fun trying to find little pieces to help form a picture. Alot of people are "Drinkers"...especially college age kids. Nobody thinks less because of that.

Anyway...welcome to the board, and I hope you enjoy your time here!
:) [/*]

Hi Rick,

You are correct MySpace is a document which may be open to the general public like Jessica’s page is, or it can be blocked so that only people added to someone’s friends list can see it, like KT’s is.

This person clearly did not take the time to view all my posts in context. If they had they would have seen that most of my MySpace comments do not deal with Jessica’s Myspace account but with KT's page. I did not "dig up skeletons" instead I corrected a false assumption about KT. That false assumption was not started here at Tru-TV, it was started in the Reno press, and they were quoting Reno citizens and U of N students.

Back on topic. I see the police now feel that there may have been a forth sexual assault that took place in October but was only just reported a few days ago. I hope this assault is connected, because if it is not, it means there are two violent sexual predators roaming the streets of Reno.

In resent news reports I see that a number of students are being quoted as saying they are NOW taking extra precautions. This lends credence to my believe The Jessica, KT and the rest of the student body were not informed back in December about the fact that a serial rapist may be attacking college coeds.

[newshound81]

Originally posted by factual1980
Hello all,

I'm new to the site. I stumbled across it while doing a little investigative research; something with which many of you seem all too preoccupied.

I would like to personally applaud you all for your at-home case-cracking skills. Well done! In fact, I find it nothing short of commendable that you all sit at home, clickity-clicking on your little desktops, watching Fox News on the boob tube while trying to piece the bits of evidence together to make some sense of this tragedy.

But that's just it, don't you see? This is a horrendous tragedy; the life of a beautiful and driven young woman was lost to the hands of a mysterious disappearance, and the grand majority of you are finger-pointing and making unreasonable accusations.

My point here is not to discredit you with your hobby, but rather to scold you for your uncontrollable curiosity regarding the lives of the innocent individuals who have been caught up in the chaos.

Listen, I understand the grand majority of you are merely here to give support to Bri and her friends and family, but there are a few of you who I would be willing to consider border-line cyber stalkers. I hate to mention names, but Maelstom? Nellie? Are you really snooping around Jessica's MySpace, trying to dig up skeletons from her past? Nellie says, 'And reading through this myspace and friends' myspace, these girls were DRINKERS!"

Nellie, although I might imagine it's been quite some time since you yourself were of college age -- although I will admit that after reading your posts, I highly doubt that I'd find an institution of higher education in YOUR past should I choose to snoop about YOUR private life (punctuation goes inside quotation marks, for future reference...)-- you certainly remember being 19 or 20 years old. Surely you remember the fun in attending a party with friends or perhaps even partook in some underage drinking yourself? Deny it if you'd like, but it's a period in everyone's life where a little rebellion is imminent.

Give Bri's friends a break. Yes, they went to SWAT and alcohol may very well have been involved. Yes, they are all under 21. However, pointing fingers at Bri's friends (and Bri's friends' friends) does NOTHING to help the case. The fact that Bri's friends could have fake IDs or that they might potentially have pictures posted on their MySpaces in which they're tossing back a few beers bears absolutely no relevance. In fact, you are just preying on some poor girl's tragedy in order to interfere in the lives of those who are equally devastated during this time of grieving. Knock it off, you pathetic people. Stop living your uninteresting lives vicariously through those who have enough to grieve about already.

I am disappointed that you have nothing more constructive to do than to track down innocent girls and publicize their private lives. My thoughts and prayers go out to Bri... I sincerely hope that they catch the ******* and find her alive so that we can all place this behind us and move on with our lives.

I should probably state now that the "investigative research" to which I first alluded included my opening Google and typing in my hometown and most recent tragedy to take place in it. I was taken directly to this site, on which I instantly found my own writing to be quoted (thanks Nellie) as well as my own private MySpace to be cited. Although I do not know Bri personally, I can assure you that Jessica Deal and KT Hunter are amazing individuals whom I have been pleased to call my sisters.

I cannot for the LIFE of me believe that you, Nellie, had the audacity to post the happenings of Jessica's past legal trouble nor can I even fathom why you posted her employment information. She is a bright and intelligent young woman, a hard worker, an extremely capable student and one of my very best friends. However, she is now completely humiliated due to a horrifying tragedy beyond her control, and you are picking apart her past. You make me absolutely sick.

In doing all that snooping, did it over occur to you to maybe send KT or Jessica a message with your condolences, or maybe a quick note of inspiration to continue to fight on? These girls are suffering. Reno is suffering. We all, however, are keeping our hopes high and continue to pray that a positive discovery will soon be revealed. You all could do the same, but instead you hinder positivity with your criticism and far-fetched theories.

Although I seemed to stumble upon this site just a few days too late to make a point when an interjection was badly needed (page 13, I believe, is when the finger-pointing is in full-swing) I would like for it to be made clear to everyone here: pray for Bri, but please leave the other girls alone. They played no role in Bri's disappearance, other than realizing that it happened just a few hours too late.

We in Reno are all grieving, praying, and taking extra precautions while walking around UNR's campus in order to keep an eye out for any information concerning this serial perp. Please, continue with your support, but cut out the criticism. It would greatly be appreciated here in the Biggest Little City. [/*]

Is this the friend who "accidentally" got married? I think I enjoy my hobby better than yours. Take care!

[happy2bme]

Originally posted by newshound81


Is this the friend who "accidentally" got married? I think I enjoy my hobby better than yours. Take care! [/*]


:santa:

[mxma30]

Originally posted by newshound81


Is this the friend who "accidentally" got married? I think I enjoy my hobby better than yours. Take care! [/*]

ITA. :beer:

[iluvmua]

I think the Reno Police need to get in touch with Lois Gibson, ( a Houston Police Department Sketch artist).

her website is: www.loisgibson.com

maybe she could do a more detailed sketch of the suspect.

[Amy S.]

The chief's e-mail is on their web site. I sent him something strange from Craig's List, last night.

[Nellie]

Originally posted by factual1980
Hello all,
. [/*]

My apologies to you and your friends for my earlier posting. It was early in the case. I now am convinced after the DNA reports came out that Bri was kidnapped and my heart goes out to everyone who knows her and the whole community. This has to be hard on her friends and I will pray for all involved. It's heartbreaking. Please forgive me.

I hope Bri is found soon.....safe.

[kimmypie1]

Nellie don't feel so bad. We are all here because we are interested in these cases and not because we are stalkers. It is not like we are sitting around laughing and making fun. We are genuinely concerned for people we don't even know (says a lot for our characters) and although we aren't actually assisting LE in the investigations, it sort of makes us feel like we are.

You weren't being harsh or cruel, you were simply being open minded and looking at all avenues.

I, like the majority of the posters, am not sitting at home going "clickety-click" all day long. I am actually at work and coming on here on my slow time to follow the progress of a missing person whom I hope is found soon and safe.

That's it, bottom line, no malintentions by ANYONE.

[omsk99]

Associated Press - January 31, 2008 9:54 PM ET

RENO, Nev. (AP) - Some significant developments in Reno tonight in the investigation of the suspected kidnapping of Brianna Denison.

More at the link

http://www.ksby.com/Global/story.asp?S=7806202

If that's the same person, he has a gun :eek:

[omsk99]

Originally posted by Breazy
I just don't see how the door could have been ajar. Even just slightly ajar would let in a cold draft that Brianna would have felt and surely she would have pushed it closed. She was on a leather couch with just a blanket and wearing a tank top with 30 degree weather. I know I would have felt it. The door was right beside the couch. She could have seen it ajar without even getting up. Sometimes my kids come in the door from my garage and just push the door short but not totally closed. I can always tell when they've done this because a cold draft can be felt all the way in the den. That is, unless it wasn't the front door, but the door in the kitchen. I still would have felt it but then again, I'm really cold natured. [/*]

I was also thinking, how could LE know if the door was ajar? But if Brianna was really intoxicated, she may not have felt cold or even noticed it. JMO

[omsk99]

Originally posted by ruby
HI Factual!


And please know that we have nothing but good intentions to bring Bri's kidnapper to justice....:) [/*]

Excellent post, Ruby. I agree with you,everyone here has good intentions, I believe including Nellie. IMO, she only posted what she did because the girls said Brianna was sober, but that could have played a role as to why no one heard anything, including the dog bark, the door was unlocked etc. We are just trying to piece together what happened, and that is what these boards are for. No one is criticizing Jessica or any other Brianna's friends, we all were in our 20's and had fun at parties. It's not criticism, but just some investigating.

Factual1980, welcome to the board. I am sorry the posts made you feel mad, please know that we all want Brianna to come home, unharmed. That is really the only reason we are here. Please do post more often and share your ideas with us. Please stay assured we do not think anything bad about anyone but the perp who took Brianna.

[omsk99]

http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2008/01/31/update-from-police-in-reno-investigation-college-coed-brianna-denison/

[kimmypie1]

Because all of the attacks occur around the same time every month. I have a feeling this is someone who is not currently living with the mother of their child and their child (judging by the baby shoe). IMO, the attacks are occuring when the child is with the mother. This gives the suspect free raign to be out late for those attacks. But is also hinders the chance of him being recognized since the people who know him best (mother of the child etc) do not live in town.

This of course is pure speculation. We don't even know if he has a child.

[Rick777]

On one hand we have this seemingly considerate rapist that returns a victim home, and brings condoms along in one occasion.

On the other hand we have supposedly the same guy with a gun.

Same person? A degress in his M.O. instead of an increase?

[omsk99]

~snip

"Police are now calling the man wanted in the abduction of Brianna Denison, a 19-year-old Reno, Nev., woman who vanished almost two weeks ago, a serial rapist after matching his DNA evidence to at least two other attacks in recent months."

http://www.abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=4227385&page=1

[omsk99]

The article I just posted above says the second girl was taken to another house and raped there, not in his truck as I originally thought. I wonder if she can give any description of the area or the house :confused:

[omsk99]

Originally posted by Rick777



As long as he's not a serial killer... [/*]

Looks like he might be escalating to that

[Brooke]

In the first rape back in October maybe it was a fake gun?

[omsk99]

Originally posted by Brooke
In the first rape back in October maybe it was a fake gun? [/*]

Could be. The article I posted says LE are saying he is escalating, so maybe that wasn't his first rape either, if it was a real gun.

[Amy S.]

Escalating? Eeek! It sounds like he is getting bolder, too.

Does LE do things like putting out female decoys? How many days are in between the attacks?

[omsk99]

Originally posted by Amy S.
Escalating? Eeek! It sounds like he is getting bolder, too.

Does LE do things like putting out female decoys? How many days are in between the attacks? [/*]

Looks like once a month, one in October, then November, then December, then January (Brianna), and IIRC usually just past the middle of each month, like November 13 (not sure), December 16, January 20

ETA: October 22. Looks like some sort of a pattern

[honibugs]

"Garcia said the latest woman told police she was attacked at about 10 p.m. on Oct. 22 on the first floor of the parking garage just south of the arena where the Nevada basketball team plays."

"The new sketch is based on the woman's description of a 5-foot-8 to 5-foot-10 white male with light brown or dirty blond hair. He had a slender to medium build and was wearing a dark-hooded pullover sweat shirt, athletic-type nylon sweat pants with black stripes and white tennis shoes, Garcia said."



http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,327367,00.html

Just speculation here, but the clothing that he was wearing this night (10/22) could be consistent with an athlete, possibly playing in or attending a basketball event on the evening of October 22, 2008 at UNR. Especially if the attack came in the parking garage just south of the arena of where the Nevada basketball team plays. Does anyone here know if there was a basketball practice or game at UNR on 10/22?

[omsk99]

~snip

"Holladay said each new piece of informations helps the investigation.

"Let's say, for example, there is a suspect out there holding Brianna Denison," Holladay said. "That person may actually weigh the possibility of a murder charge versus a kidnapping charge. Based on the information, he may think we've got him, and we could be very close to that."

http://news.rgj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080201/NEWS01/802010488/1016/NEWS

Yes, I certainly hope he weighs his options, and lets her go.

[omsk99]

Police are continuing to keep a close eye for anything suspicious in the UNR neighborhood. A man stopped by Reno Police around midnight Thursday in the UNR area was questioned and released. No arrest was made.

Police were responding to a call of a suspicious man fitting the suspect description in the Brianna Denison case.

http://www.kolotv.com/home/headlines/15112331.html

[Amy S.]

Don't forget that he supposedly has no body odors, so he either showered after an activity or he cleans up before going out.

[omsk99]

Originally posted by Amy S.
Don't forget that he supposedly has no body odors, so he either showered after an activity or he cleans up before going out. [/*]

Probably before, maybe that's why he wasn't wearing cologne, in case a girl could tell what brand it was.

[omsk99]

http://blogs.kansascity.com/crime_scene/2008/02/where-is-briann.html

[honibugs]

I am wondering now if this man, who obviously is very demented, went back to the girls apartment that he raped in December, 2007, to kill her. He told her if she went to the police that he would kill her and apparently she did go to the police.

[omsk99]

Originally posted by honibugs
I am wondering now if this man, who obviously is very demented, went back to the girls apartment that he raped in December, 2007, to kill her. He told her if she went to the police that he would kill her and apparently she did go to the police. [/*]

But I wonder how he would know that he did?.. That's possible, and maybe he also went there to rape her again (although an article called it a "robbery").

[honibugs]

Originally posted by omsk99


But I wonder how he would know that he did?.. That's possible, and maybe he also went there to rape her again (although an article called it a "robbery"). [/*]

I see what you mean; how would he know that she went to the police? Because, correct me if I am wrong, the police did not put out a description of the attacker of the girl from December, 2007 until after Brianna was kidnapped. Do you think that the police did not put out a description because the girl that was attacked in December, 2007 told them that he would kill her if she went to the police? Also, where were the UNR campus police at when all of these attacks were happening, don't they patrol the campus?

[wandering]

Originally posted by honibugs
I am wondering now if this man, who obviously is very demented, went back to the girls apartment that he raped in December, 2007, to kill her. He told her if she went to the police that he would kill her and apparently she did go to the police. [/*]And further, he might kill Brianna because she could "tell."

[ruby]

:rose:

[wandering]

Originally posted by honibugs


I see what you mean; how would he know that she went to the police? Because, correct me if I am wrong, the police did not put out a description of the attacker of the girl from December, 2007 until after Brianna was kidnapped. Do you think that the police did not put out a description because the girl that was attacked in December, 2007 told them that he would kill her if she went to the police? Also, where were the UNR campus police at when all of these attacks were happening, don't they patrol the campus? [/*]I don't know how big that campus is, but they probably have only one patrol car, and it may take an hour to get around the campus. Anyone know?

[ruby]

i hope they get some POI's soon! This is my worst nightmare, losing someone without a trace....

[Breazy]

Before I leave work for the weekend, I just wanted to state that Reno LE deserves much kudos on this case. They have made this top priority from the beginning. Much progression has been made in less than 2 weeks. I wish it was the same in all places with all missing person cases. Have a great weekend everyone and I'll try to pop in from home.

:seeya:

:rose: For Brianna and Her Friends and Family. Hoping and Praying for Miracles!!

[Maelstrom5]

Interesting news story:

The other war Americans are facing


http://www.navasotaexaminer.com/articles/2008/01/30/news/opinions/editorial01.txt

Copyright © 2008 The Navasota Examiner. All rights reserved.

[omsk99]

Originally posted by Breazy
Before I leave work for the weekend, I just wanted to state that Reno LE deserves much kudos on this case. They have made this top priority from the beginning. Much progression has been made in less than 2 weeks. I wish it was the same in all places with all missing person cases. Have a great weekend everyone and I'll try to pop in from home.

:seeya:

:rose: For Brianna and Her Friends and Family. Hoping and Praying for Miracles!! [/*]

I was thinking the same thing. Have a good weekend, too, Breazy! :seeya:

[omsk99]

Posted: Feb 1, 2008 12:43 PM

Reported by: Eric Luttrell

RENO, NEVADA

Reno Police link the disappearance of a Santa Barbara City College student to a third attack.

Police announced today DNA evidence ties the suspected kidnapping of Brianna Denison to an attempted sexual attack in the neighborhood where she disappeared.

That attack happened in November.

Police had already linked Brianna's disappearance to a rape in the area that happened in December.

19-year-old Brianna was last seen at a friend's home in the early morning hours of January 20.

http://www.ksby.com/Global/story.asp?S=7809851

[omsk99]

~snip

"2/1/08 - “It changes everything when it happens to your family,” said Heather Anderson of Graeagle, cousin to Brianna Zunino Denison who has been missing from a Reno home since Jan. 20.

Anderson was home in Graeagle only briefly, having come from Reno where she was participating in organized search parties for her cousin. She was returning to the searches in the morning but came home to ask her community for volunteers to help search."

http://www.plumasnews.com/news_story.edi?sid=5945

[butterfly28]

Originally posted by kimmypie1
Because all of the attacks occur around the same time every month. I have a feeling this is someone who is not currently living with the mother of their child and their child (judging by the baby shoe). IMO, the attacks are occuring when the child is with the mother. This gives the suspect free raign to be out late for those attacks. But is also hinders the chance of him being recognized since the people who know him best (mother of the child etc) do not live in town.

This of course is pure speculation. We don't even know if he has a child. [/*]

We also do not know if these are his only attacks. Odds are good that there have been others yet to be reported and maybe they happened at different times of the month. :shrug:

[butterfly28]

Originally posted by honibugs


I see what you mean; how would he know that she went to the police? Because, correct me if I am wrong, the police did not put out a description of the attacker of the girl from December, 2007 until after Brianna was kidnapped. Do you think that the police did not put out a description because the girl that was attacked in December, 2007 told them that he would kill her if she went to the police? Also, where were the UNR campus police at when all of these attacks were happening, don't they patrol the campus? [/*]

Yes they do patrol the campus but I feel they need to increase their presence (now more than ever). It is a large campus and you can walk around for quite awhile without seeing any police officers. There are a lot of trees and old buildings with many hidden areas for someone to be assaulted.

[butterfly28]

Originally posted by wandering
I don't know how big that campus is, but they probably have only one patrol car, and it may take an hour to get around the campus. Anyone know? [/*]

It is a campus with more than one car... there are several but I am not sure how many are out at once. That would be interesting to find out....

[bred]

Having been on a few campuses on my life...there is no way an entire campus can be patrolled guaranteeing no assaults. My own neighborhood can't be totally 'watched."

BUT! This is one lucky guy...1 assault in a large, busy parking lot..1 in a small lot close to the victim's apt., and 1 entry into an occupied home. The odds are low that he could succeed, yet he did. He must be feeling VERY confident tonight.

[butterfly28]

Originally posted by Breazy
Before I leave work for the weekend, I just wanted to state that Reno LE deserves much kudos on this case. They have made this top priority from the beginning. Much progression has been made in less than 2 weeks. I wish it was the same in all places with all missing person cases. Have a great weekend everyone and I'll try to pop in from home.

:seeya:

:rose: For Brianna and Her Friends and Family. Hoping and Praying for Miracles!! [/*]


That was very nice Breazy and I agree. So often people are quick to comment when LE is not doing what is perceived to be a good job, yet slow to comment when they are. I may be biased because I have have family members in LE but I have have such faith in our police department I know they will keep going until they find Brianna. They are hard-working, intelligent and most of all devoted to these victims.

:rose: May Brianna be found soon

[Politigal]

possible link to another rape
http://www.ksby.com/global/story.asp?s=7811346

[Politigal]

I hadn't seen this before

http://www.secretwitness.com/cases/case_detail.php?cat_id=10

A person of interest is being sought: the driver of a beige or light brown Chevrolet or GMC suburban vehicle who is reported to be white or Latino descent, medium build, and well dressed. This subject picked up a friend of the victim and drove her to the address where Denison went missing.

[Track292003]

I THINK that guy has come forward, given his DNA, and been cleared of any involvement in this case.

BTW: Is it correct to say that, had the police compared DNA from the December attack with DNA from the November attack, they would have known that the two samples of DNA were from the same person?

TIA.

[westernskies]

Intersting secretwitness link... There are a lot of unsolved crimes in the Reno area :(

[Maelstrom5]

Originally posted by Track292003
I THINK that guy has come forward, given his DNA, and been cleared of any involvement in this case.

BTW: Is it correct to say that, had the police compared DNA from the December attack with DNA from the November attack, they would have known that the two samples of DNA were from the same person?

TIA. [/*]

Hi Track292003,

Yes it is. It's doubtful they had taken a DNA sample from the November attack before Brianna went missing and they may not have processed the December one before the 20th of January.

Lets face facts, the December attack took place just before the start of the Christmas holiday vacation season.

What Resort city wants to kick off a busy holiday season by announcing "there is a serial rapist on the loose" Think of the Movie Jaws, the only difference is this predator walks on two legs.

[Brooke]

Originally posted by Track292003
I THINK that guy has come forward, given his DNA, and been cleared of any involvement in this case.

BTW: Is it correct to say that, had the police compared DNA from the December attack with DNA from the November attack, they would have known that the two samples of DNA were from the same person?

TIA. [/*]


YES he came forward voluntarily and has been cleared.

[Track292003]

Maelstrom5 and Brooke,

Thanks for your posts.

-Track

[Cookies]

Brianna :rose:

[febreze]

understand that the 45 year old man that gave two girls a ride home (one of them being Brianna)gave his DNA but, didn't one of the girls (the first one that went home)get a ride with a stranger? I'm never read where he came foward and gave his.

[Maelstrom5]

Originally posted by febreze
understand that the 45 year old man that gave two girls a ride home (one of them being Brianna)gave his DNA but, didn't one of the girls (the first one that went home)get a ride with a stranger? I'm never read where he came foward and gave his. [/*]

febreze,

The 45 year old guy gave Jessica a ride back to the house. KT and Brianna got a ride from a friend, Ian. Both men as well as Brianna's boyfriend have been ruled out as a suspect.

[RainyNiteNTx]

I haven't been posting, but I've been following along coming here looking for news, hoping she has been found.

[Cookies]

Originally posted by RainyNiteNTx
I haven't been posting, but I've been following along coming here looking for news, hoping she has been found. [/*]

Not yet.



:rose:

[bred]

For those of us who have lurked/posted since day one, the secretwitness link DOES cause confusion. We know both men have been cleared, so who are they talking about???? If NO ONE, then re-write the "story." All those who are able to be on the look out for Brianna and the perp need to be on the same page and have correct info.

[Track292003]

I filed an anonymous tip report with secretwitness this morning, suggesting that they update their information regarding this case. We'll see if anything on there changes.

[omsk99]

Nothing new as of today, just more searches

"Volunteers search for missing teenager"

http://www.mercurynews.com/nationworld/ci_8155926

[Cookies]

Originally posted by omsk99
Nothing new as of today, just more searches

"Volunteers search for missing teenager"

http://www.mercurynews.com/nationworld/ci_8155926 [/*]

I'm getting worried.

:rose:

[omsk99]

Originally posted by Cookies


I'm getting worried.

:rose: [/*]

Me too :(

[SameHere1]

I hate reading that they will scale back the search soon - I understand - but I can't stand the thought.

And this guy will hit again. This is just so infuriating!

[sunstar]

Originally posted by omsk99
Nothing new as of today, just more searches

"Volunteers search for missing teenager"

http://www.mercurynews.com/nationworld/ci_8155926 [/*]
It's sad this is the only update. I really thought there would be more progress in finding the perpetrator after the information released from the Dec. assault. :(

[Leanne Weich]

Originally posted by Cookies


I'm getting worried.

:rose: [/*]

I am too. 1st assault he bolted when the victim screamed. 2nd one he rendered her unconscious and, as I understand it, he then went back to her home. Bri. seems to have disappeared off the face of the earth. He seems to have escalated, imo. Still praying for a miracle for you Brianna

[Cookies]

Originally posted by Leanne Weich


I am too. 1st assault he bolted when the victim screamed. 2nd one he rendered her unconscious and, as I understand it, he then went back to her home. Bri. seems to have disappeared off the face of the earth. He seems to have escalated, imo. Still praying for a miracle for you Brianna [/*]

I hope she's okay,I really do.I want her home and safe.Every day that goes by is a bad sign to me.


:rose: Prayers for you,Bri hon. :rose:

[Leanne Weich]

Originally posted by Cookies


I hope she's okay,I really do.I want her home and safe.Every day that goes by is a bad sign to me.


:rose: Prayers for you,Bri hon. :rose: [/*]

I also think it is a bad sign. I find myself waking up every hour or so to just check the boards - just like the early days when Trenton Duckett went missing.

[diamnds&guns]

:rose:

[butterfly28]

I joined the searches for Brianna yesterday. There was a good turn out but I was told it was not as good as the previous day (most likely because of the Superbowl). It was nice to see so many other people from the community there.

Before going out on the searches we were shown an actual bear like the one missing from where Brianna was staying. It did look similar to a CareBear like it was mentioned here except it had bigger ears and the body was slightly different. It was generally the same idea as a CareBear though. I tried to find a picture of one online but have not been able to yet.

Unfortunately it had snowed quite a bit the night before and the ground was almost completely covered. It made it difficult to search so I hope this week is warmer to melt the snow. I believe the searches end on the 8th or 10th so I will go back next weekend as well if they are still going on.

Did anyone see America's Most Wanted? I missed it but I'd like to hear if anyone saw it.

[diamnds&guns]

Originally posted by butterfly28
I joined the searches for Brianna yesterday. There was a good turn out but I was told it was not as good as the previous day (most likely because of the Superbowl). It was nice to see so many other people from the community there.

Before going out on the searches we were shown an actual bear like the one missing from where Brianna was staying. It did look similar to a CareBear like it was mentioned here except it had bigger ears and the body was slightly different. It was generally the same idea as a CareBear though. I tried to find a picture of one online but have not been able to yet.

Unfortunately it had snowed quite a bit the night before and the ground was almost completely covered. It made it difficult to search so I hope this week is warmer to melt the snow. I believe the searches end on the 8th or 10th so I will go back next weekend as well if they are still going on.

Did anyone see America's Most Wanted? I missed it but I'd like to hear if anyone saw it. [/*]

It must have been very rewarding to search! Did they give you any additional information?

[RiverWalk]

http://www.ktvn.com/Global/story.asp?S=7816027&nav=menu549_1_1

First Lady Gibbons, Kayakers Search for Denison
Posted: Feb 3, 2008 05:05 PM

Kellene Stockwell
Channel 2 News

The case for Brianna Denison continues to get national attention. The 19-year-old was featured on America's Most Wanted this weekend. And earlier Saturday, more than 300 volunteers searched the Truckee River to the hills north of Reno, where they were joined by Nevada First Lady Dawn Gibbons.

[jtazzy]

Originally posted by Leanne Weich


I also think it is a bad sign. I find myself waking up every hour or so to just check the boards - just like the early days when Trenton Duckett went missing. [/*]

Leanne, I come here first thing everymorning hoping to see that she is home and safe.

I too think he has escalted very quickly in all of this.

My heart goes out to her and her family...

[Politigal]

There is a backlog in the DNA testing and funds are needed

http://bringbriback.blogspot.com/

[omsk99]

Originally posted by butterfly28
I joined the searches for Brianna yesterday. There was a good turn out but I was told it was not as good as the previous day (most likely because of the Superbowl). It was nice to see so many other people from the community there.

Before going out on the searches we were shown an actual bear like the one missing from where Brianna was staying. It did look similar to a CareBear like it was mentioned here except it had bigger ears and the body was slightly different. It was generally the same idea as a CareBear though. I tried to find a picture of one online but have not been able to yet.

Unfortunately it had snowed quite a bit the night before and the ground was almost completely covered. It made it difficult to search so I hope this week is warmer to melt the snow. I believe the searches end on the 8th or 10th so I will go back next weekend as well if they are still going on.

Did anyone see America's Most Wanted? I missed it but I'd like to hear if anyone saw it. [/*]

Butterfly, it was so good of you to join! Per the article I posted below, the search will go until the 10th.

http://news.rgj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080203/NEWS/802030350/0/NEWS18&theme=DENISON

This is also an interesting article, about a new police tactics (sort of like profiling people on the streets and asking to give DNA samples):

http://www.kolotv.com/home/headlines/15270231.html

[omsk99]

'People are still good at heart'

http://news.rgj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080203/COL30/802030302/1133/LIV

[omsk99]

http://www.crimesceneblog.com/?p=652

[Breazy]

Originally posted by SameHere1
I hate reading that they will scale back the search soon - I understand - but I can't stand the thought.

And this guy will hit again. This is just so infuriating! [/*]


I agree! And the sad reality . . . he WILL hit again. I just so hope it doesn't take ruining another young woman's life. His chances of getting away with another are slim to none if local. Here's hoping it doesn't come to that. :beer: (Pepsi)

[diamnds&guns]

Originally posted by Breazy



I agree! And the sad reality . . . he WILL hit again. I just so hope it doesn't take ruining another young woman's life. His chances of getting away with another are slim to none if local. Here's hoping it doesn't come to that. :beer: (Pepsi) [/*]


I wish there was more info on this case. That is what is so frustrating...the lack of information.

[omsk99]

Originally posted by diamnds&guns



I wish there was more info on this case. That is what is so frustrating...the lack of information. [/*]

I wonder if they know more than what they are saying publicly :shrug:

[diamnds&guns]

Originally posted by omsk99


I wonder if they know more than what they are saying publicly :shrug: [/*]

I dunno, I can't believe she hasn't been found. I wonder how many leads they have....

I wonder if the dude is stashing her at his house? Wouldn't be the first time....or even buried her at his house/yard. The ground would be frozen though you'd think.

[Breazy]

Originally posted by diamnds&guns



I wish there was more info on this case. That is what is so frustrating...the lack of information. [/*]


Info on Brianna's possible location is nil to none, I agree. However, general info on case, perp, etc. has been quite a bit. Much more than other cases I've followed.

[omsk99]

Originally posted by Breazy



Info on Brianna's possible location is nil to none, I agree. However, general info on case, perp, etc. has been quite a bit. Much more than other cases I've followed. [/*]

Hopefully that will make more people to take a closer look at the sketch and all the details, obviously someone and not just "one" knows him enough to recognize him.

[diamnds&guns]

Originally posted by Breazy



Info on Brianna's possible location is nil to none, I agree. However, general info on case, perp, etc. has been quite a bit. Much more than other cases I've followed. [/*]

Yes that's true, however, there are no POI's as far as we're aware.....I wonder how many people they are checking up on though that we don't know of!

[omsk99]

Originally posted by diamnds&guns


Yes that's true, however, there are no POI's as far as we're aware.....I wonder how many people they are checking up on though that we don't know of! [/*]

I don't think they have a clue either, since they are asking random people on the street to submit DNA. I think the same was done in Christa Worthington case.

[diamnds&guns]

Originally posted by omsk99


I don't think they have a clue either, since they are asking random people on the street to submit DNA. I think the same was done in Christa Worthington case. [/*]

It's weird */c usually a description/sketch brings a lot of people forward! He has to be known....

[Breazy]

Originally posted by omsk99


Hopefully that will make more people to take a closer look at the sketch and all the details, obviously someone and not just "one" knows him enough to recognize him. [/*]


I agree. There has to be people that he works with, people that work in stores he frequents, etc. Please, let someone recognize him . . .

[Breazy]

Originally posted by diamnds&guns


Yes that's true, however, there are no POI's as far as we're aware.....I wonder how many people they are checking up on though that we don't know of! [/*]


I hope and pray that's the case!!

[Breazy]

Originally posted by omsk99


I don't think they have a clue either, since they are asking random people on the street to submit DNA. I think the same was done in Christa Worthington case. [/*]


I don't either and that's what's so scarey!!

[omsk99]

Originally posted by diamnds&guns


It's weird */c usually a description/sketch brings a lot of people forward! He has to be known.... [/*]

I know, to me, even the clothes details are a big clue.

Regarding DNA, I hope the outcome will be like in Christa's case. The killer was dumb enough to submit DNA, but labs were backlogged and they didn't get a match for quite some time, though, IIRC.

[diamnds&guns]

Originally posted by omsk99


I know, to me, even the clothes details are a big clue.

Regarding DNA, I hope the outcome will be like in Christa's case. The killer was dumb enough to submit DNA, but labs were backlogged and they didn't get a match for quite some time, though, IIRC. [/*]

He will be caught I believe....I just hope it's soon....

[omsk99]

Originally posted by diamnds&guns


He will be caught I believe....I just hope it's soon.... [/*]

Before he strikes again...

[diamnds&guns]

Originally posted by omsk99


Before he strikes again... [/*]

I have a feeling he wont strike again. He seems amatuer, and with all the attention out there on this case, he is probably worried. The descsription is quite vague, a lot of men are strong/basketball pants etc....but he probably doesnt want to risk having a victim get away. Although a rapist has a hard time stopping. Jeez, this could go anyway....of course I hope for one over the other.

[omsk99]

Originally posted by diamnds&guns


I have a feeling he wont strike again. He seems amatuer, and with all the attention out there on this case, he is probably worried. The descsription is quite vague, a lot of men are strong/basketball pants etc....but he probably doesnt want to risk having a victim get away. Although a rapist has a hard time stopping. Jeez, this could go anyway....of course I hope for one over the other. [/*]

I hope so too, but he left the area (or leaves the area), he might do it somewhere where no one knows him :(

[diamnds&guns]

Originally posted by omsk99


I hope so too, but he left the area (or leaves the area), he might do it somewhere where no one knows him :( [/*]
That's true....eep

[Zaun]

Originally posted by omsk99


I hope so too, but he left the area (or leaves the area), he might do it somewhere where no one knows him :( [/*]

I agree with you. JMO

[Track292003]

Originally posted by omsk99
http://www.crimesceneblog.com/?p=652 [/*]

Did any of you look at this blog? Is it too much of a stretch to think that the sketch of the suspect in Brianna's case is similar to the sketch of the"northern California rapist" of 12 years ago?

I think there is some similarity...AND Reno IS near northern California.

eta: He has a square chin and kind of a long face, IMOO.

[omsk99]

Originally posted by Track292003


Did any of you look at this blog? Is it too much of a stretch to think that the sketch of the suspect in Brianna's case is similar to the sketch of the"northern California rapist" of 10 years ago?

I think there is some similarity...AND Reno is near northern California. [/*]

Track, your inbox is full :seeya:

I was just about to reply to you! I see what you mean, only the hairline is quite different, but he might have started loosing hair over the time.

[Track292003]

Hi, omsk99 -

My PM box tells me it is empty, so I don't know what the problem is!

[omsk99]

Originally posted by Track292003
Hi, omsk99 -

My PM box tells me it is empty, so I don't know what the problem is! [/*]

You also need to delete all messages fro m "sent items" and "tracking" :seeya:

[wandering]

Originally posted by Track292003


Did any of you look at this blog? Is it too much of a stretch to think that the sketch of the suspect in Brianna's case is similar to the sketch of the"northern California rapist" of 12 years ago?

I think there is some similarity...AND Reno IS near northern California.

eta: He has a square chin and kind of a long face, IMOO. [/*]No, the neck is distinctly different. One thick and short, the other long and slimmer.

[febreze]

Originally posted by diamnds&guns


I dunno, I can't believe she hasn't been found. I wonder how many leads they have....

I wonder if the dude is stashing her at his house? Wouldn't be the first time....or even buried her at his house/yard. The ground would be frozen though you'd think. [/*]

think it's quite possible he has her at a house and she may be alive, locked up and unable to escape.

[omsk99]

Originally posted by febreze


think it's quite possible he has her at a house and she may be alive, locked up and unable to escape. [/*]

I so hope that's the case :rose:

[Rick777]

I think she could be aive.

is my inbox full?:tongue:

[butterfly28]

Originally posted by diamnds&guns


It must have been very rewarding to search! Did they give you any additional information? [/*]

I did not learn any new information during the searches. Hopefully next weekend. (Or better yet she will be found this week and there will be no searches next weekend!!)

:rose:

[butterfly28]

Originally posted by omsk99


Butterfly, it was so good of you to join! Per the article I posted below, the search will go until the 10th.

http://news.rgj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080203/NEWS/802030350/0/NEWS18&theme=DENISON

This is also an interesting article, about a new police tactics (sort of like profiling people on the streets and asking to give DNA samples):

http://www.kolotv.com/home/headlines/15270231.html [/*]

That's good news about the 10th. Thank you very much. I think I will be able to go both days next weekend. Hopefully there will bot be as much snow!

Interesting article about the new police tactics. I feel the police should do what they need to do at this point to find Bri! I feel better reading about this happening then if they were not doing anything at all.

[ruby]

Morning everyone!

Hope today is the day we get some answers! :rose:

[Rick777]

Originally posted by ruby
Morning everyone!

Hope today is the day we get some answers! :rose: [/*]


hey Ruby! You are...Ruby! hehehe

We NEED some answers!! Anything!!

[ruby]

Originally posted by Rick777



hey Ruby! You are...Ruby! hehehe

We NEED some answers!! Anything!! [/*]

RICK!!! your PM box is full dude

[Rick777]

Originally posted by ruby


RICK!!! your PM box is full dude [/*]



hahaha..thanks!

[RainyNiteNTx]

Still checking in to see if you guys have heard anything :(

Maybe today!

[ruby]

Originally posted by RainyNiteNTx
Still checking in to see if you guys have heard anything :(

Maybe today! [/*]

Nothing new today thus far Rainy :( Will do a good check in about a half hour, see what I can dig up.

*BUMP* :rose:

[RainyNiteNTx]

Thanks Ruby - wish we had SOME news.

[omsk99]

Originally posted by Rick777
I think she could be aive.

is my inbox full?:tongue: [/*]

Yup! :seeya:

[mxma30]

Originally posted by Track292003


Did any of you look at this blog? Is it too much of a stretch to think that the sketch of the suspect in Brianna's case is similar to the sketch of the"northern California rapist" of 12 years ago?

I think there is some similarity...AND Reno IS near northern California.

eta: He has a square chin and kind of a long face, IMOO. [/*]

i dont think there is much similarity. one is in shape, the other was last reported as chubby. one stalks his victims for days, learning much about them and raping them when most vulnerable.. the other has been on the spot with what seems to be no prior knowledge of the victims. one used tape and bound his victims, the other just attacked with hands

[omsk99]

Morning everyone! :seeya:

No news this morning, but some interesting post from an ex-cop who worked on cold & missing persons cases (although I would take it with a grain of salt, but SO hope he is right)

http://selflaugh.wordpress.com/2008/02/05/update-search-for-brianna-denison-dream-experts-thoughts/

[ruby]

Originally posted by omsk99
Morning everyone! :seeya:

No news this morning, but some interesting post from an ex-cop who worked on cold & missing persons cases (although I would take it with a grain of salt, but SO hope he is right)

http://selflaugh.wordpress.com/2008/02/05/update-search-for-brianna-denison-dream-experts-thoughts/ [/*]

Hey there :)

Yah he's talking about Brian's Predictions....he HAS been right sometimes, but yes, definitely to be taken with a grain of salt. It is definitely worth looking into

[omsk99]

Originally posted by ruby


Hey there :)

Yah he's talking about Brian's Predictions....he HAS been right sometimes, but yes, definitely to be taken with a grain of salt. It is definitely worth looking into [/*]

Hi! :seeya:

ITA, but I really hope he is right, I hope she is alive and hope they will find her soon, it's been over 2 weeks now :(

[ruby]

"Attacks near UNR were all crimes of opportunity"


http://news.rgj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080205/NEWS01/802050353/0/NEWS18&theme=DENISON

....continues


"Washoe County authorities are appealing to the private sector for $150,000 to allow a backlog of roughly 3,000 DNA samples from convicted offenders to be processed and compared with the DNA of the unknown suspect who abducted Brianna Denison and, weeks earlier, assaulted at least two other college students."


http://news.rgj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080205/NEWS01/802050351/0/NEWS18&theme=DENISON

...continues

:read:

[ruby]

Originally posted by omsk99


Hi! :seeya:

ITA, but I really hope he is right, I hope she is alive and hope they will find her soon, it's been over 2 weeks now :( [/*]

I believe in his ability, but he did say Natalee Holloway is in a foreign country with a baby, etc....I guess you can't be right all the time.

I pray Bri is still alive....and she escapes, or someone finds her....

[omsk99]

"Reno police said that DNA isn’t the only link between four sexually motivated attacks against women near the University of Nevada, Reno campus, including the Jan. 20 abduction of missing woman Brianna Denison.
They were also crimes of opportunity.
After a 19-year-old UNR student reported last week that she was raped in October at gunpoint by a stranger in a campus parking lot, police say they are searching for a serial sexual predator."

More at the link

http://news.rgj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080204/NEWS18/80204056&theme=DENISON

[omsk99]

Originally posted by ruby
"Attacks near UNR were all crimes of opportunity"


http://news.rgj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080205/NEWS01/802050353/0/NEWS18&theme=DENISON

....continues


"Washoe County authorities are appealing to the private sector for $150,000 to allow a backlog of roughly 3,000 DNA samples from convicted offenders to be processed and compared with the DNA of the unknown suspect who abducted Brianna Denison and, weeks earlier, assaulted at least two other college students."


http://news.rgj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080205/NEWS01/802050351/0/NEWS18&theme=DENISON

...continues

:read: [/*]

We must have posted the same article at the same time :seeya:

[omsk99]

Originally posted by ruby


I believe in his ability, but he did say Natalee Holloway is in a foreign country with a baby, etc....I guess you can't be right all the time.

I pray Bri is still alive....and she escapes, or someone finds her.... [/*]

Wow, he was way off about Natalee, but hope he is right in this case.

[ruby]

Originally posted by omsk99


We must have posted the same article at the same time :seeya: [/*]

hehe good work

[omsk99]

(February 5, 2008)--Pepper spray and stun guns are flying off the shelves in Reno, Nev. after the abduction of college coed Brianna Denison and a rape last December.

Stores that sell personal safety items say they have seen a surge in sales among women age 19 to 24, and among women who attend the local university.

Alysha Carpenter works at the store Scotland Yard and says the Brianna Denison case has fueled women's desires to be able to defend themselves.

Carpenter says pepper spray has been her customer's first choice, but stun guns and alarm key chains are also selling fast.

Authorities are still searching for Dennison, who disappeared while visiting the home of a friend near the University of Nevada-Reno campus.

Officials say they need money to help pay for a backlog of DNA samples waiting for analysis.

The tests may help determine what happened to the missing college student.

http://www.kwtx.com/home/headlines/15310001.html

[ruby]

Originally posted by omsk99
(February 5, 2008)--Pepper spray and stun guns are flying off the shelves in Reno, Nev. after the abduction of college coed Brianna Denison and a rape last December.

Stores that sell personal safety items say they have seen a surge in sales among women age 19 to 24, and among women who attend the local university.

Alysha Carpenter works at the store Scotland Yard and says the Brianna Denison case has fueled women's desires to be able to defend themselves.

Carpenter says pepper spray has been her customer's first choice, but stun guns and alarm key chains are also selling fast.

Authorities are still searching for Dennison, who disappeared while visiting the home of a friend near the University of Nevada-Reno campus.

Officials say they need money to help pay for a backlog of DNA samples waiting for analysis.

The tests may help determine what happened to the missing college student.

http://www.kwtx.com/home/headlines/15310001.html [/*]

Glad to see these women are taking control of their lives...:beer:

[omsk99]

Originally posted by ruby


Glad to see these women are taking control of their lives...:beer: [/*]

And all it took was an unlocked door, only IF...

I hope Brianna is warm wherever she is (if she is alive), she was only wearing a tank top and sweatpants, no shoes or socks

:rose:

[omsk99]

Originally posted by Rick777
I think she could be aive.

is my inbox full?:tongue: [/*]

Rick, it's still FULL! :seeya:

[ruby]

Originally posted by omsk99


And all it took was an unlocked door, only IF...

I hope Brianna is warm wherever she is (if she is alive), she was only wearing a tank top and sweatpants, no shoes or socks

:rose: [/*]

Ugh, I hope so too....I hope if she's alive that she's hanging on. :(

[RainyNiteNTx]

Originally posted by omsk99


And all it took was an unlocked door, only IF...

I hope Brianna is warm wherever she is (if she is alive), she was only wearing a tank top and sweatpants, no shoes or socks

:rose: [/*]

Does anyone know off the top of their head if her cell phone was found in the house or whether it is missing?

[Rick777]

No body has been found. Thats hope.
No bear has been found. Thats hope.

[Rick777]

Originally posted by RainyNiteNTx


Does anyone know off the top of their head if her cell phone was found in the house or whether it is missing? [/*]


found in house with purse, shoes...

[omsk99]

Originally posted by RainyNiteNTx


Does anyone know off the top of their head if her cell phone was found in the house or whether it is missing? [/*]

I don't remember reading about it, but I assume it was in the house

[Rick777]

my box is soooooooooo epmty! :seeya:

[Breazy]

:seeya: Everyone! Checking in and praying that today's the day!!!

[ruby]

Originally posted by Breazy
:seeya: Everyone! Checking in and praying that today's the day!!! [/*]

Hi Breazy, not much today! *crossing fingers*

[omsk99]

Originally posted by Breazy
:seeya: Everyone! Checking in and praying that today's the day!!! [/*]

Hi Breazy! :seeya:

I hope so too!!!

[omsk99]

This link has links to all articles posted on www.rgj.com about search for Brianna, including two from today which we posted earlier:

http://news.rgj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/99999999/SPECIAL30/80122019/0/NEWS18&theme=DENISON&template=theme

ETA: Also contains links to articles from last year about the related attacks

[ruby]

Originally posted by omsk99
This link has links to all articles posted on www.rgj.com about search for Brianna, including two from today which we posted earlier:

http://news.rgj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/99999999/SPECIAL30/80122019/0/NEWS18&theme=DENISON&template=theme

ETA: Also contains links to articles from last year about the related attacks [/*]

That's great!

[Breazy]

I am so hoping this case does not grow cold but without new info, there's not much to discuss. With all the identifying info on the perp, I cannot believe someone hasn't come forward to say he is/was their co-worker, friend, neighbor, etc. Makes me wonder if LE is wrong and he's not from that area.

[omsk99]

I thought of that too. His timeline is in the middle of a month for three months in a row, maybe he comes for something to Reno once a month?.. I, too, find it strange that no one has come forward who knows or has seen him.

[Rick777]

Originally posted by omsk99
I thought of that too. His timeline is in the middle of a month for three months in a row, maybe he comes for something to Reno once a month?.. I, too, find it strange that no one has come forward who knows or has seen him. [/*]


if we are frustrated, imagine how her family feels! It must be so hard, and so many sleepless nights...

[ruby]

i agree with you all. I can't believe this guy hasn't been caught. I mean Gary Hilton was Id'd almost immediately! I know this 'sketch' isn't the greatest, but surely they have some POI's. Perhaps we don't know about people coming forward with people they think look like the sketch....

Her family must be going nuts, because I am and I dont even know the sweet girl!

[omsk99]

Originally posted by ruby
i agree with you all. I can't believe this guy hasn't been caught. I mean Gary Hilton was Id'd almost immediately! I know this 'sketch' isn't the greatest, but surely they have some POI's. Perhaps we don't know about people coming forward with people they think look like the sketch....

Her family must be going nuts, because I am and I dont even know the sweet girl! [/*]

ITA! It must be their worst nightmare that they wish they could wake up from. I hope he didn't skip town!

[omsk99]

So many missing or murdered people cases go cold. Donna Jou (her thread has been deleted :( ), Travis Baker, Leah Hickman (although body found), just to name a few. Hope Brianna's case won't



:rose:

[ruby]

Originally posted by omsk99
So many missing or murdered people cases go cold. Donna Jou (her thread has been deleted :( ), Travis Baker, Leah Hickman (although body found), just to name a few. Hope Brianna's case won't


:rose: [/*]


Me too, I hate when they go cold :(

[Maelstrom5]

Originally posted by Breazy
I am so hoping this case does not grow cold but without new info, there's not much to discuss. With all the identifying info on the perp, I cannot believe someone hasn't come forward to say he is/was their co-worker, friend, neighbor, etc. Makes me wonder if LE is wrong and he's not from that area. [/*]

I agree with you. I don't think he lives in Reno now. He may have lived in the area in the past, or held a job that took him to that location. He also could have been at one time a student at UNR.

If you look at the map of Nevada, Reno is a fairly easy city to get in and out of. He could live south, in Carson City, or in a rural town to the east. There is also a good chance he lives across the state line in California.

[Breazy]

ITA with all. Hopefully, LE is just keeping quiet about incoming info and wheels are indeed turning . . .

I just can't believe enough info on perp hasn't come in to LE to at least be searching for someone specific. That is what I'm worried about.

:rose: Brianna, hold on, they're trying to find you.

[omsk99]

No more news today :(

Hoping for Brianna :rose:

[Rick777]

I know this is random, but there are similarities to brianna's case in this article from today.


http://www.azcentral.com/community/tempe/articles/0912asurape0912.html?&wired

[omsk99]

Originally posted by Rick777
I know this is random, but there are similarities to brianna's case in this article from today.


http://www.azcentral.com/community/tempe/articles/0912asurape0912.html?&wired [/*]

It is very similar indeed, except that he assaulted her in the house, and the Reno perp kidnaps them. Sketch is a bit off too, but it's weird about the roommates not hearing anything, just like with Brianna.

[Breazy]

Originally posted by Rick777
I know this is random, but there are similarities to brianna's case in this article from today.


http://www.azcentral.com/community/tempe/articles/0912asurape0912.html?&wired [/*]


No kidding, way too similar. The sketch gave me the willies . . . square chin, small amount of facial hair.

How far is this from Reno? Is it possible the perp has moved on to another college town?

[Breazy]

Originally posted by omsk99


It is very similar indeed, except that he assaulted her in the house, and the Reno perp kidnaps them. Sketch is a bit off too, but it's weird about the roommates not hearing anything, just like with Brianna. [/*]


In what way is the sketch off to you? It gave me the willies when I saw it. Could it be this sketch is more accurate than sketch released by Reno?

[omsk99]

Originally posted by Breazy



In what way is the sketch off to you? It gave me the willies when I saw it. Could it be this sketch is more accurate than sketch released by Reno? [/*]

He looks a lot older, and with much more hair, but that could be just the quality of the pic or the sketch itself.

[ruby]

i compared the sketches side by side and the only similarities are the mouth and nose....it still could be related!!!

[omsk99]

Originally posted by ruby
i compared the sketches side by side and the only similarities are the mouth and nose....it still could be related!!! [/*]

Yeah, Arizona is close to Nevada!

[ruby]

Originally posted by Kathy*Rae
:shrug:

What amazes me is the line in the link that says "the rapist entered through an unlocked door.

WTH???

Young women, whats it going to take before you please learn to lock your doors?

Even if there wasn't a rapist/abductor on the loose....why take a chance?

How hard can it be to do that one last thing before bedtime?

sheesh

Maybe that is something we need to start teaching in infancy...? [/*]

Im shocked that people DO keep their doors unlocked. Not only for their own safety, but for robbery purposes too.... LOCK YOUR DOORS!!!

[Brooke]

Ya know who also resembles this sketch is the nor-cal rapist!

http://cbs5.com/local/norcal.rapist.phoenix.2.629357.html

Look at the second sketch down on the right side

http://www.crimesceneblog.com/?cat=88

[ruby]

Originally posted by Brooke
Ya know who also resembles this sketch is the nor-cal rapist!

http://cbs5.com/local/norcal.rapist.phoenix.2.629357.html

Look at the second sketch down on the right side

http://www.crimesceneblog.com/?cat=88 [/*]


yep that one does resemble the sketch too! Good sleuthing.

[Breazy]

Good morning all!!! :seeya:

I'm not good at distinguishing certain details from a sketch and I don't even know if I'd be able to recognize a loved one from a sketch but when I opened link about Arizona rapist, I got a weird feeling and that's what I was going on. According to MapQuest, Tempe, Arizona and Reno, Nevada are 780 miles apart. That's a bit further than I originally thought. I'm probably way off but like I said, I got a weird feeling and you know what they say about a woman's intuition . . .

:rose: Praying they find Brianna and the person responsible TODAY!!

[Brooke]

http://news.rgj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080205/NEWS01/802050351/1016/NEWS18


Good morning! I woke up thinking of Brianna thimorning. Brianna is only two years older than my own Brieanna! My heart aches for what her mother must be going through right now.

:rose: Praying today is the day for Brianna to come home

[Maelstrom5]

Good Morning Breazy,


Here is a case of a different serial rapist. Snippets from a news report. All these cases were linked by DNA

February 11, 1997

“A professional woman in her late 20s was on business in Waynesboro. She returned to her room at the Comfort Inn around midnight, and then left her room door open while she went to her car to get her laptop computer. She was attacked when she returned to her room, but she wasn't sure whether the attacker had been inside all along or followed her in, according to Waynesboro police.”

June 12, 1999

“It was before midnight when a Brazilian woman in her early 30s returned from work to her house in the 2300 block of Jefferson Park Avenue, an area near Fry's Spring that houses more graduate students and UVA employees than undergraduates.
The attacker entered through an unlocked window and was waiting for the woman in her bedroom. He choked her and pulled her hair, and more chillingly, told her he'd been watching her.”

April 15, 2000

“A UVA student in her early 20s was awakened around 2am by a man's hand over her mouth and his arm around her neck. He threatened to choke her if she made any noise.
So while another person slept in the ground floor apartment in the 400 block of 13th Street NW, the young woman was raped, a "serious sexual assault," says Capt. Chip Harding, without providing further details.

The assailant entered through a kitchen window in the back of the apartment, continuing his pattern of unforced entry into a residence.”

May 3, 2000

“A little more than two weeks after the April 15 attack, a UVA undergrad was in the Lambeth Parking lot off Emmet Street across from U-Hall at 2:40am. Her attacker jumped from beside a parked car and grabbed her. Using "excessive force," according to police, he choked and beat her. And he indicated that his intention was a sexual assault.
This woman knew karate, fought back, and was able to escape. "She was a better fighter than he was," Lieutenant J.W. Gibson says.”

November 11, 2002

“The 40ish woman had been out running errands on a Monday morning. When she returned to her home in the middle class Willoughby neighborhood around 9am, she thought her house was secure because of the deadbolt on the door. What she didn't know was that a back door inadvertently had been left open.
This would be the rapist's most horrific attack yet. Police decline to say whether a weapon was involved, but they do say the woman was brutally beaten. She was hospitalized, and her serious facial injuries required multiple surgeries.”



As we can see this rapists MO was a bit different he targeted certain women and looked for a opportunity to strick. In Brianna’s case I do not feel he targeted any of the women. Instead he targeted a area. The neighborhood KT lives in has a large number of coeds and young women. It was a target rich environment, with any number of young women going in and out of houses and parking garages at all times of the day and night

[Breazy]

Originally posted by Maelstrom5
Good Morning Breazy,


Here is a case of a different serial rapist. Snippets from a news report. All these cases were linked by DNA

February 11, 1997

“A professional woman in her late 20s was on business in Waynesboro. She returned to her room at the Comfort Inn around midnight, and then left her room door open while she went to her car to get her laptop computer. She was attacked when she returned to her room, but she wasn't sure whether the attacker had been inside all along or followed her in, according to Waynesboro police.”

June 12, 1999

“It was before midnight when a Brazilian woman in her early 30s returned from work to her house in the 2300 block of Jefferson Park Avenue, an area near Fry's Spring that houses more graduate students and UVA employees than undergraduates.
The attacker entered through an unlocked window and was waiting for the woman in her bedroom. He choked her and pulled her hair, and more chillingly, told her he'd been watching her.”

April 15, 2000

“A UVA student in her early 20s was awakened around 2am by a man's hand over her mouth and his arm around her neck. He threatened to choke her if she made any noise.
So while another person slept in the ground floor apartment in the 400 block of 13th Street NW, the young woman was raped, a "serious sexual assault," says Capt. Chip Harding, without providing further details.

The assailant entered through a kitchen window in the back of the apartment, continuing his pattern of unforced entry into a residence.”

May 3, 2000

“A little more than two weeks after the April 15 attack, a UVA undergrad was in the Lambeth Parking lot off Emmet Street across from U-Hall at 2:40am. Her attacker jumped from beside a parked car and grabbed her. Using "excessive force," according to police, he choked and beat her. And he indicated that his intention was a sexual assault.
This woman knew karate, fought back, and was able to escape. "She was a better fighter than he was," Lieutenant J.W. Gibson says.”

November 11, 2002

“The 40ish woman had been out running errands on a Monday morning. When she returned to her home in the middle class Willoughby neighborhood around 9am, she thought her house was secure because of the deadbolt on the door. What she didn't know was that a back door inadvertently had been left open.
This would be the rapist's most horrific attack yet. Police decline to say whether a weapon was involved, but they do say the woman was brutally beaten. She was hospitalized, and her serious facial injuries required multiple surgeries.”



As we can see this rapists MO was a bit different he targeted certain women and looked for a opportunity to strick. In Brianna’s case I do not feel he targeted any of the women. Instead he targeted a area. The neighborhood KT lives in has a large number of coeds and young women. It was a target rich environment, with any number of young women going in and out of houses and parking garages at all times of the day and night [/*]

Thanks for info. Quite interesting . . .

Your thoughts about area being targeted lends credence to my feelings about the ASU attack and the sketch posted earlier in the thread. I'm telling ya, I had a weird feeling when I read that link and saw that sketch. Reno was way too hot after he took Brianna so he relocated to area much the same. The surroundings of each go hand in hand. I wonder if any other attacks around ASU have been reported recently or this is out of the blue? I'm probably just letting my imagination get away with me but I wonder . . .

[Brooke]

They should most definately compare the DNA from both of these cases and look for a match!!

[Cookies]

Originally posted by ruby


Im shocked that people DO keep their doors unlocked. Not only for their own safety, but for robbery purposes too.... LOCK YOUR DOORS!!! [/*]

Ita!

:rose:

[Breazy]

Originally posted by Brooke
They should most definately compare the DNA from both of these cases and look for a match!! [/*]

You know, you're right! I hadn't even thought of that. That would most certainly clear up anything going on in my head.

[Breazy]

I looked back at the link regarding the ASU attack and this took place on September 10 -- a month plus before the first attack in Reno that we know of. Not probable they are related but the similiarities are uncanny.

[Maelstrom5]

Originally posted by Breazy


Thanks for info. Quite interesting . . .

Your thoughts about area being targeted lends credence to my feelings about the ASU attack and the sketch posted earlier in the thread. I'm telling ya, I had a weird feeling when I read that link and saw that sketch. Reno was way too hot after he took Brianna so he relocated to area much the same. The surroundings of each go hand in hand. I wonder if any other attacks around ASU have been reported recently or this is out of the blue? I'm probably just letting my imagination get away with me but I wonder . . . [/*]

Based on the news report I would not rule out a possible connection. The MO is the same.

If this guy did both, what would it tell us?

That he travels between states and is familiar with college campuses. He could have a job that takes him from town to town and allows him to become knowledgeable about where students live.

He could work at something like instrument assurance, periodic checks to make sure sensitive instruments are calibrated correctly. Some type of job that requires him to spend a few days in a town, then move on, coming back at regular intervals to do his job.

If the Arizona attack turns out to be a similar but unconnected attack, it still does not rule out the possibility that Reno’s rapist has struck in other cities.

[Breazy]

Originally posted by Maelstrom5


Based on the news report I would not rule out a possible connection. The MO is the same.

If this guy did both, what would it tell us?

That he travels between states and is familiar with college campuses. He could have a job that takes him from town to town and allows him to become knowledgeable about where students live.

He could work at something like instrument assurance, periodic checks to make sure sensitive instruments are calibrated correctly. Some type of job that requires him to spend a few days in a town, then move on, coming back at regular intervals to do his job.

If the Arizona attack turns out to be a similar but unconnected attack, it still does not rule out the possibility that Reno’s rapist has struck in other cities. [/*]


Agreed. Anything is possible especially considering there is so little info and apparently no identity of perp even with sketch. It boggles my mind and sends it in all different directions.

[omsk99]

I can't believe there are no news today :(

[Rick777]

Originally posted by omsk99
I can't believe there are no news today :( [/*]


There doesn't seem to be any news at all lately. She just vanished off the face of the earth or something.

[omsk99]

Originally posted by Rick777



There doesn't seem to be any news at all lately. She just vanished off the face of the earth or something. [/*]

I know, it's awful, such a lovely girl :(

[ruby]

Hi Guys :seeya:

Yah it's a huge downer when there is no news...must be gut-wrenching for her fam....:rose:

[omsk99]

Originally posted by ruby
Hi Guys

Yah it's a huge downer when there is no news...must be gut-wrenching for her fam....:rose: [/*]

Hi Ruby :seeya:

I know, I can't stand it. Every morning I hope for good news :(

[omsk99]

Reno Gazette Jounal has a video for a plea for donations to help pay for backlog of 3,000 DNA samples of convicted felon. The suspect in Reno, Nevada teen Brianna Denison, who was abducted Jan. 20th from a campus area home, may possible be in that backlog.
The State required in October 07 that all cases require DNA processing be entered in a data bank, but didn't fund it! Bernie Anderson D Sparks, NV. sponsored the bill and Shelia Leslie D Reno, NV. stated "it was important the bill was passed... "the State will find a way to pay for it somehow." That is outrageous. Harry Reid appears to more interested in defunding the war than protecting the victims of horrendous crimes. Governor Jim Gibbons, would probably like to hear from you too!
So far $93,000 has been pledged from the gaming community. Another $62,000 has been raised through the community. God Bless them! Another $150,000 is still needed. More info and frequent updates here. and here Reno Police Dept tipline: 1-775-745-3531 RPD newsroom.

Composite of possible suspect released.

Condom seized in prior rape and abduction linked to Denison's abduction.

By Stable Hand at February 6, 2008 10:51 AM | Comments | Trackback l digg this

:rose:

[ruby]

Originally posted by omsk99
Reno Gazette Jounal has a video for a plea for donations to help pay for backlog of 3,000 DNA samples of convicted felon. The suspect in Reno, Nevada teen Brianna Denison, who was abducted Jan. 20th from a campus area home, may possible be in that backlog.
The State required in October 07 that all cases require DNA processing be entered in a data bank, but didn't fund it! Bernie Anderson D Sparks, NV. sponsored the bill and Shelia Leslie D Reno, NV. stated "it was important the bill was passed... "the State will find a way to pay for it somehow." That is outrageous. Harry Reid appears to more interested in defunding the war than protecting the victims of horrendous crimes. Governor Jim Gibbons, would probably like to hear from you too!
So far $93,000 has been pledged from the gaming community. Another $62,000 has been raised through the community. God Bless them! Another $150,000 is still needed. More info and frequent updates here. and here Reno Police Dept tipline: 1-775-745-3531 RPD newsroom.

Composite of possible suspect released.

Condom seized in prior rape and abduction linked to Denison's abduction.

By Stable Hand at February 6, 2008 10:51 AM | Comments | Trackback l digg this

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I cant believe citizens or business have to PAY for justice. The police and their labs are paid to protect people and to find answers....tax payers already pay their salaries and what not. A girl is missing and each day that this is delayed, is another nail in her coffin as far as im concerned....Im not bashing PD, just not happy with the protocols.

[Breazy]

WTH good does it do to pass this bill if its not funded? Just another waste of taxpayer's money and then the taxpayers themselves have to come up with funding over and above their taxes. Something's wrong with this picture . . .

[omsk99]

Sounds like even if we pay taxes, they still don't have money! That's ridiculous, how do the officials up there feel right now, with a person missing, and no being able to process DNA?! :mad:

[ruby]

:flamemad:

[omsk99]

Originally posted by ruby
:flamemad: [/*]

I know, Ruby! This is the first time I hear about officials asking for money to process DNA. And every second counts :flamemad:

[omsk99]

http://calfire.blogspot.com/2008/02/sar-news-brianna-denison-horses-and.html

I want Brianna home :rose:

[trich]

this does not make sense to me...
Were they lying when they said they found the rapist's DNA in the room Brianna was taken from.
They connected that dna to other rape victims.
so now they are saying they can not process dna due to lack of money.
If there is a backlog of testing dna how do they know that it is same dna in house as the rape victims.
Does anyone think what I am thinking makes sense ....
I need an explanation.
Help!

[omsk99]

Originally posted by trich
this does not make sense to me...
Were they lying when they said they found the rapist's DNA in the room Brianna was taken from.
They connected that dna to other rape victims.
so now they are saying they can not process dna due to lack of money.
If there is a backlog of testing dna how do they know that it is same dna in house as the rape victims.
Does anyone think what I am thinking makes sense ....
I need an explanation.
Help! [/*]

They have his DNA, but no match. There is a baccklog of DNA samples to still be tested and entered into the database.

[Brooke]

Originally posted by trich
this does not make sense to me...
Were they lying when they said they found the rapist's DNA in the room Brianna was taken from.
They connected that dna to other rape victims.
so now they are saying they can not process dna due to lack of money.
If there is a backlog of testing dna how do they know that it is same dna in house as the rape victims.
Does anyone think what I am thinking makes sense ....
I need an explanation.
Help! [/*]

They cannot process OTHER felons DNA. The law that was passed said that all felons and persons convicted of sexual crimes has to have ther DNA entered into the system. BUT the state does not have the funding to do this at this time. THEY DO HAVE DNA FROM BRIANNA"S ABDUCTOR!

Hope this helps a bit ;)

[Brooke]

Originally posted by omsk99


Condom seized in prior rape and abduction linked to Denison's abduction.

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Is this the rape from October that is possibly connected or from the December attack? I thought the December attack was oral rape. If this is from the October rape then who kept the condom all this time since it was only reported on January 28th? If it was from the December attack did the victim grab the condom before she left his home, since sheaid the attack did NOT occur in his car that he took her to a home and assaulted her. I want to know where this condom came from!!!

[jtazzy]

Originally posted by omsk99


I know, Ruby! This is the first time I hear about officials asking for money to process DNA. And every second counts :flamemad: [/*]

WHAT!!!!! I have never heard of this before. When did states, counties start doing this???? OMG this is unexcusable...

[jtazzy]

Originally posted by Brooke


They cannot process OTHER felons DNA. The law that was passed said that all felons and persons convicted of sexual crimes has to have ther DNA entered into the system. BUT the state does not have the funding to do this at this time. THEY DO HAVE DNA FROM BRIANNA"S ABDUCTOR!

Hope this helps a bit ;) [/*]

:seeya: Hi Brooke....
Here in Florida and Texas they will enter the dna into the data base for felons and ex felons...but these are the only two states that I know for a fact they do....pm me if you want to know why LOL...

[Brooke]

Originally posted by ruby


I cant believe citizens or business have to PAY for justice. The police and their labs are paid to protect people and to find answers....tax payers already pay their salaries and what not. A girl is missing and each day that this is delayed, is another nail in her coffin as far as im concerned....Im not bashing PD, just not happy with the protocols. [/*]


I completely agree! When they passed this new law they should have had in there where the funding would come from. Now it is on the shoulders of the community to pay for this? This is not right!! Will the community be made to feel responsible if Brianna is not found?

RUBY--- BTW I love your signature!!!

[ruby]

Originally posted by Brooke



I completely agree! When they passed this new law they should have had in there where the funding would come from. Now it is on the shoulders of the community to pay for this? This is not right!! Will the community be made to feel responsible if Brianna is not found?

RUBY--- BTW I love your signature!!! [/*]

You are right, the community shouldnt be made to feel responsible for the welfare of its citizens. What is LE for? Imagine how her family feels? Like their feet have cement blocks for shoes....so frustrating.

and THANKS :) I want to remind myself and others to live each day to the fullest */c some you know what may steal it from you in a heartbeat....:)

[Brooke]

I come into this forum every morning, afternoon and night and hold my breath as I open this thread. I pray and hope every day that Brianna will be found, preferrably alive.

:rose: We will find you Brianna, We will never give up hope!!

[ruby]

Originally posted by Brooke
I come into this forum every morning, afternoon and night and hold my breath as I open this thread. I pray and hope every day that Brianna will be found, preferrably alive.

:rose: We will find you Brianna, We will never give up hope!! [/*]

Sadly, this is one of those threads where I don't hold my breath, as I feel that she wont be found, or it wont be for a long time. I have no idea why I feel this way, but it's just a feeling I have had from the beginning. Probably */c of the lack of clues, and work on the case. They are searching yes, but if she's being held in a house, or was taken out of state, it won't solve anything.

The DNA tests need to be done immediately for this case to get rolling...IMO

[wandering]

Originally posted by trich
this does not make sense to me...
Were they lying when they said they found the rapist's DNA in the room Brianna was taken from.
They connected that dna to other rape victims.
so now they are saying they can not process dna due to lack of money.
If there is a backlog of testing dna how do they know that it is same dna in house as the rape victims.
Does anyone think what I am thinking makes sense ....
I need an explanation.
Help! [/*]Yes, that's outrageous! Brianna may be alive somewhere, waiting for rescue! Unbelievable! :eek:

[Maelstrom5]

God morning all,

Ruby
You are right about the search effort. They are looking in the city and around the foothills of Reno for Brianna. If she is outside the radius of the search, the likelihood of her being located quickly is remote.

To all,

The backlog of DNA test results is not confined to Nevada, it is nation wide problem.

In the case of 19 year old April Ann Repka it took three years. April was reported missing from Victoria county Texas on June 17 1991. Foul play was suspected, but the police could never find a trace of her.

In 2004 a farmer plowing up a field in Jim Wells county Texas found her skeletal remains along with some clothing. DNA evidence was collected from those remains, but it took 3 years before they found a match. In 2007 a DNA missing persons data base linked the sample taken from the remains to a DNA sample provided by April’s mother.

It took three years before they could give a name to the bones found in 2004, but after 16 years, April finely got to go home.

[ruby]

Originally posted by Maelstrom5
God morning all,

Ruby
You are right about the search effort. They are looking in the city and around the foothills of Reno for Brianna. If she is outside the radius of the search, the likelihood of her being located quickly is remote.

To all,

The backlog of DNA test results is not confined to Nevada, it is nation wide problem.

In the case of 19 year old April Ann Repka it took three years. April was reported missing from Victoria county Texas on June 17 1991. Foul play was suspected, but the police could never find a trace of her.

In 2004 a farmer plowing up a field in Jim Wells county Texas found her skeletal remains along with some clothing. DNA evidence was collected from those remains, but it took 3 years before they found a match. In 2007 a DNA missing persons data base linked the sample taken from the remains to a DNA sample provided by April’s mother.

It took three years before they could give a name to the bones found in 2004, but after 16 years, April finely got to go home. [/*]

That is SO sad...I pray that never happens to anyone I know...the waiting would be horrible

[Breazy]

Originally posted by Brooke


Is this the rape from October that is possibly connected or from the December attack? I thought the December attack was oral rape. If this is from the October rape then who kept the condom all this time since it was only reported on January 28th? If it was from the December attack did the victim grab the condom before she left his home, since sheaid the attack did NOT occur in his car that he took her to a home and assaulted her. I want to know where this condom came from!!! [/*]

Good morning all!!:seeya:

I believe the condom came from the attempted attack in November. I may be wrong, though and too busy at work right now to go look . . .

Trying to Keep the Faith that Brianna is safe somewhere and praying for her family . . .

[Maelstrom5]

Originally posted by Breazy


Good morning all!!:seeya:

I believe the condom came from the attempted attack in November. I may be wrong, though and too busy at work right now to go look . . .

Trying to Keep the Faith that Brianna is safe somewhere and praying for her family . . . [/*]


Breazy you are correct, the purple colored condom's come fro the failed attack in November

[RainyNiteNTx]

Originally posted by Brooke
I come into this forum every morning, afternoon and night and hold my breath as I open this thread. I pray and hope every day that Brianna will be found, preferrably alive.

:rose: We will find you Brianna, We will never give up hope!! [/*]

Same here - when I see the thread at the top I always wonder if there is some news. I'm glad you guys are here holding vigil.

[omsk99]

Good morning (and afternoon) everyone! :seeya:

A few new articles:

http://news.rgj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080207/NEWS01/802070355/1321/NEWS

http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/191102.php

http://www.kolotv.com/home/headlines/15380746.html

http://www.ktvn.com/global/story.asp?s=7834211

I too hope every morning that there4 are good news...

:rose:

[omsk99]

http://www.bringbriback.blogspot.com/

:rose:

[ruby]

:rose:

[Breazy]

Originally posted by omsk99
http://www.bringbriback.blogspot.com/

:rose: [/*]


I continue to be impressed with Reno LE. The following is on the bringbriback website you posted. I don't think I've seen this in relation to any another missing person.

Report Suspicious Postings!
If anyone notices any suspicious website postings/blogs regarding Brianna please forward the information to Lori Fralick, Victim Advocate Supervisor, Reno Police Department via e-mail ASAP. This would be unusual or creepy postings.

Lori Fralick [mailto:fralickl@ci.reno.nv.us]

[omsk99]

Originally posted by Breazy



I continue to be impressed with Reno LE. The following is on the bringbriback website you posted. I don't think I've seen this in relation to any another missing person.

Report Suspicious Postings!
If anyone notices any suspicious website postings/blogs regarding Brianna please forward the information to Lori Fralick, Victim Advocate Supervisor, Reno Police Department via e-mail ASAP. This would be unusual or creepy postings.

Lori Fralick [mailto:fralickl@ci.reno.nv.us] [/*]

I noticed that too! I had never seen anything like that before. I am impressed too, so much effort, fundraising etc.

[Rick777]

There just aren't many things to say at this point. It's looking grim. I can't believe this guy is still out there.

[omsk99]

Originally posted by Rick777
There just aren't many things to say at this point. It's looking grim. I can't believe this guy is still out there. [/*]

Who knows where he is now :mad:

[ruby]

Originally posted by omsk99


Who knows where he is now :mad: [/*]

The fact that someone hasn't come forward with their SO looking similar to this guy, and also drives a truck, and also has access to a child makes me sad....it really puts forth the possibility that this guy isn't from around there at all.

[omsk99]

Originally posted by ruby


The fact that someone hasn't come forward with their SO looking similar to this guy, and also drives a truck, and also has access to a child makes me sad....it really puts forth the possibility that this guy isn't from around there at all. [/*]

Unfortunately, I have to agree :(

[Breazy]

Originally posted by omsk99


Unfortunately, I have to agree :( [/*]

It also makes me think that Maestrom5's post could be on the money about the perp being in an employment that requires travel to college towns. Still thinking Arizona ASU attack could be related in some way . . . so many similarities. Does anyone know if any other attacks have been reported in that area?

[omsk99]

Originally posted by Breazy


It also makes me think that Maestrom5's post could be on the money about the perp being in an employment that requires travel to college towns. Still thinking Arizona ASU attack could be related in some way . . . so many similarities. Does anyone know if any other attacks have been reported in that area? [/*]

The MO seems different, though, because in Arizona the student was assaulted at home, but he might have escalated to kidnapping, if it's the same guy.

[ruby]

I think this are becoming too broad */c we dont have ANY clues. Just DNA evidence from a perp who isn't in the system. The broader this gets, the harder it's going to be to catch this loser. Bring Bri home!!!! :rose:

[Breazy]

Originally posted by ruby
I think this are becoming too broad */c we dont have ANY clues. Just DNA evidence from a perp who isn't in the system. The broader this gets, the harder it's going to be to catch this loser. Bring Bri home!!!! :rose: [/*]


ITA!!

[omsk99]

Originally posted by ruby
I think this are becoming too broad */c we dont have ANY clues. Just DNA evidence from a perp who isn't in the system. The broader this gets, the harder it's going to be to catch this loser. Bring Bri home!!!! :rose: [/*]

And there is no guarantee that his DNA will be among those they still have to enter into the system

[omsk99]

http://www.necn.com/Boston/Nation/Hounds-assist-in-search-for-Brianna-Denison/1202400398.html

[omsk99]

Interview with Washoe County sheriff, Mike Haley

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,329388,00.html

[Rick777]

Originally posted by omsk99


Unfortunately, I have to agree :( [/*]


This case is a national case. It doesn't matter if he's a local or not because everyone knows he had a truck, baby shoe in it, and a bit of facial hair.

[omsk99]

Originally posted by Rick777



This case is a national case. It doesn't matter if he's a local or not because everyone knows he had a truck, baby shoe in it, and a bit of facial hair. [/*]

But I don't think LE outside Reno or NV are active in the search

[omsk99]

http://blogs.lasvegasnow.com/summerlin/2008/02/07/7839924/

[Rick777]

Originally posted by Maelstrom5


Rick,

If you follow I 80 east it goes directly to Salt Lake City. If you then go south on I 15 you travel directly beside the Jordan river were this woman’s body was found. Its a long shot, but given the timeframe since Brianna's was abducted, it’s far from a impossibility. [/*]


maybe he panicked from all the national attention and got rid of her. I REALLY hope thats not the case, but ya never know.

[wandering]

Yes, abducted people become a burden to the perp. They have to be fed, etc. :(

[Cookies]

Originally posted by wandering
Yes, abducted people become a burden to the perp. They have to be fed, etc. :( [/*]

Ita.It's been so many days now.


:rose:

[Maelstrom5]

Originally posted by wandering
Yes, abducted people become a burden to the perp. They have to be fed, etc. :( [/*]

wandering,
You are right and national statistics back you up. The vast majority of kidnap/rape victims who survive are let go within a few hours, and most kidnap/rape/murder victims are killed within 3 hours of the abduction.

But this is not always the case

This story out of Alabama is a case in point. Roy Stillwell, a long haul trucker, kept his victim alive for 4 days. On the 4th day she managed to signal for help, it is unlikely she would have seen a fifth.


“Roy Stillwell was arrested last month after the woman was found tied up and screaming for help at a Loxley truck stop”

“During a preliminary hearing, investigators testified Stillwell abducted the woman December 8th in Montgomery, choked her unconscious, cut her clothes off, tied her up, raped and sodomized her almost a dozen times over four days.”

“For four days, Stillwell drove from state to state with the woman tied up in the back of his truck. As they approached Alabama, investigator's say the woman began to fear for her life because of something Stillwell said, according to Dixon, "It was referring to driving near water and there was a reason they were driving near water which would be upcoming past Loxley."

[honibugs]

I cannot believe that the state of Nevada doesn't have the money ($150,000) to allow a private lab to perform DNA analysis to help locate Brianna's kidnapper. This is an outrage! You would think that this young woman's life would be so important that Nevada would pay for it. Come on now, the casino's could contribute. If she is found dead, I hope the news media, runs a headline "MISSING WOMAN FOUND DEAD, NEVADA WOULD NOT PAY FOR DNA ANALYSIS ON CRIMINAL."