Marcelene Smith, 69, Murfreesboro, TN 12-06-07

[darcie]

Marcelene Smith, a 69-year-old diabetic, has been missing since about 1:30 p.m. Thursday, when she left her Village Green Circle home for a shopping trip. Surveillance video shows Smith's Lincoln Navigator entering the Wal-Mart parking lot about an hour later with no sign of the missing woman.





http://dnj.midsouthnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071211/NEWS01/712110318/1002

[darcie]

*snipped*

Surveillance video, released over the weekend and shot in the Wal-Mart parking lot where Smith’s car was found, shows a man driving her car about an hour after she was reported missing.

The video shows him drive the car to a remote corner of the lot and park it. She was not in the car.

He then rides off on Smith’s bike.

Police have not called the man a suspect, but a person of interest and would like to talk to him.



http://www.wkrn.com/nashville/news/police-hope-new-video-will-lead-to-missing-woman/132396.htm


Prayers that this woman is found. I am sure that her family is heartbroken, scared, numb. Hopefully they will get some answers soon.

[sjb]

I've been paying close attention to this missing womans story as Murfreesboro is only about 30 minutes from me. They've been running her disappearance on the nightly news both at 5 and again at 10pm. But, so far nothing new.

Some of the stories mention a car with a couple in it that was "cut off" by the guy driving Mrs. Smith's navigator. The police were hoping that this couple might have been able to get a good look at the driver. Last night it was reported that the couple driving the car spoke to the police and told them that they don't recall seeing the guy at all. So, LE is now at a dead end at this point.

Mrs. Smith left home at about 1:30pm and her navigator (driven by the stranger) appeared in the WalMart parking lot at 2:26 so that doesn't leave much space in between. She was planning a short shopping trip and police haven't yet released any information regarding whether she actually made any purchases in that time span. So far, they haven't organized a search for her (although family and friends have passed out flyers) but I wish that they would. I'm confident that the residents of Murfreesboro would respond in large numbers if only they were given some direction in where to look.

The video showing the missing womans husband is heart breaking, an elderly man, crying and pleading for his wifes return. I hope they find her soon.

[starling]

I wonder if there has been any activity on her accounts?
We had a retired TCU professor kidnapped from a Tom Thumb in broad daylight here couple of yrs ago. Her body was found in Oklahoma days later.They kept her alive long enough to empty out her account. Monsters. They were caught,TG!
I hope someone remembers or recognizes something :(

[starling]

Police want to identify this couple, seen here entering the Wal-Mart on Rutherford Boulevard around 2:29 p.m. Thursday. Detectives believe they might have the seen the person driving Marcelene Smith's vehicle......photo at link
http://dnj.midsouthnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071210/NEWS01/71210012

[darcie]

Checking in on Marcelene. Thanks for the update Starling! Was hoping with the pic of the man on the bike, it would somehow make a break in this case. Prayers for her family as they fight for strength, and prayers for Marcelene.

[darcie]

Seems as if her cell phone has been found. There is also a video of her daughter at this link.

*Snipped*

Missing woman’s cell phone found
DNJ staff reports


Authorities located the cell phone of Marcelene Smith this afternoon off Barfield Crescent Road, Murfreesboro Police spokesman Kyle Evans said.

The phone was discovered by the police department, Tennessee Bureau of Investigation and U.S. Marshal Service, who are assisting local authorities in the search for Smith, a 69-year-old Murfreesboro woman who has been missing since Thursday.

There was no other evidence or clues around the phone, Evans said.

http://www.dnj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071211/NEWS01/71211016/1002/rss

[shelkobe]

Are there any locals posting on this thread... where is Barfield Crescent Road, where the cell phone was found, in relation to the WalMart and where Marcelene lived?

[sjb]

Originally posted by starling
Police want to identify this couple, seen here entering the Wal-Mart on Rutherford Boulevard around 2:29 p.m. Thursday. Detectives believe they might have the seen the person driving Marcelene Smith's vehicle......photo at link
http://dnj.midsouthnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071210/NEWS01/71210012 [/*]

The couple that police were hoping might have had a look at the guy spoke to police (on Monday I believe) and told them that they didn't see anything.

Here's the link to that story.
http://www.newschannel5.com/Global/story.asp?S=7479938

[sjb]

Originally posted by shelkobe
Are there any locals posting on this thread... where is Barfield Crescent Road, where the cell phone was found, in relation to the WalMart and where Marcelene lived? [/*]

I'm about 30 minutes from Murfreesboro. But, I don't know the area well. I shopped at the Mall there, the Walmart where they found her car, and other "big box" stores but I don't really know my way around the town, or into residential areas.

That said, the area where they found her cell phone is in the opposite direction of the way she would have traveled (according to news reports) so that is troubling to LE.

So far, LE still hasn't asked for the publics help in a search. Her family says she was going to about 4 different places. But considering that her SUV was spotted at Walmart less then an hour after she left home we have no idea of where or IF she actually made it to any stores. I'm hoping that LE will release more details so that the public can actually go LOOK in some of these places if she actually ever made it out of her drive way and off her street.

An elderly woman, with a purse, getting into a Lincoln Navigator probably looked like a pretty easy and lucrative target for whoever is responsible for this.

Because of the short time span between her leaving and her vehicle being found (1hr) I have to think she's very close to her home.

The local newspaper for the town she lives in is:
http://www.dnj.com

[sjb]

Just wanted to mention that I emailed the Chief of Police two days ago regarding any planned search for Marcelene. I just checked my email and he had replied. He said that "at this time" there is no planned , public search by volunteers but that it may become necessary in upcoming days as the investigation is continues.

[shelkobe]

Thanks for the info., sjb.

So the bike did not belong to the Smiths then? Either this was well planned in advance (with the abductor bringing a bicycle along in order to abandon the car somewhere and have a means of escape), or it was just serendipitious and the perpetrator just happened to be riding around on a bike when he spotted Mrs. Smith.

When I saw the pic of the guy on the bicycle I immediately thought he looked like an older man, based on posture and what I could see of his figure. I see at least one of the locals commenting on the newspaper article in one of the links saw the same thing I did. I wish that pic could be enhanced.

[starling]

Originally posted by sjb


The couple that police were hoping might have had a look at the guy spoke to police (on Monday I believe) and told them that they didn't see anything.

Here's the link to that story.
http://www.newschannel5.com/Global/story.asp?S=7479938 [/*]

Thank you

I hate to ask.. but has the DH been ruled out as being connected to any of this or to the guy on the bike? I esp ask this as the man on the bike seems older.

JMO

[sjb]

Originally posted by shelkobe
Thanks for the info., sjb.

So the bike did not belong to the Smiths then? Either this was well planned in advance (with the abductor bringing a bicycle along in order to abandon the car somewhere and have a means of escape), or it was just serendipitious and the perpetrator just happened to be riding around on a bike when he spotted Mrs. Smith.

When I saw the pic of the guy on the bicycle I immediately thought he looked like an older man, based on posture and what I could see of his figure. I see at least one of the locals commenting on the newspaper article in one of the links saw the same thing I did. I wish that pic could be enhanced. [/*]

Hi Shelkobe,

One of the print articles said that the man rode off on Mrs. Smiths bike, but IIRC that was the only time I heard it mentioned that it was HER bicycle. I had been wondering that too, if she had just bought the bike at walmart. But, LE has said that in reviewing the video tapes that Marcelene wasn't even the person who drove the SUV into the walmart parking lot, and that the person seen riding off on the bike was the person who drove it there. If you look at the video closely (it is bad quality like you mentioned) you can see that the bike still has those card board things in the spokes of the tires, kind of like labels or whatever.

It hasn't been released yet to the public whether the perp took her SUV and maybe her purse and then purchased the bike or if Marcelene did. Her family also said she shopped at Kmart on occasion too so she could have gone there first. So many questions, and so far ...not many details except the video from Walmart.

People locally have said the guy looked "stuffed onto the bike" and I tend to agree. It doesn't seem to be adjusted for his height so either he bought it in a hurry, or Marcelene bought it before he got to her.

[omsk99]

Originally posted by shelkobe
Thanks for the info., sjb.

So the bike did not belong to the Smiths then? Either this was well planned in advance (with the abductor bringing a bicycle along in order to abandon the car somewhere and have a means of escape), or it was just serendipitious and the perpetrator just happened to be riding around on a bike when he spotted Mrs. Smith.

When I saw the pic of the guy on the bicycle I immediately thought he looked like an older man, based on posture and what I could see of his figure. I see at least one of the locals commenting on the newspaper article in one of the links saw the same thing I did. I wish that pic could be enhanced. [/*]

Why do you think the bike didn't belong to the Smiths? I thought I read that it was in her car :shrug:

[sjb]

Originally posted by starling


Thank you

I hate to ask.. but has the DH been ruled out as being connected to any of this or to the guy on the bike? I esp ask this as the man on the bike seems older.

JMO [/*]

I don't think he was ever a suspect. The poor guy is HEART BROKEN. I would search for a link to show you his interview that aired on the news but it's so sad to watch that it's not something you could watch and just forget about it. I think of her husband often throughout the day.

He was very choked up when he was interviewed in his home shortly after she went missing. The poor guy was crying and could barely talk. He kept talking about how she was insulin dependent and that if they didn't find her soon she could die. It's so, so sad.

He's up there in age himself and he's even been out with the family during press conferences standing there with them, in the rain, weather and what have you.

[sjb]

Originally posted by omsk99


Why do you think the bike didn't belong to the Smiths? I thought I read that it was in her car :shrug: [/*]

I don't know for certain that it didn't belong to her. The reason there was a question in my own mind is because I've only seen the one article where they referred to it as her bike. I'm just thinking that by now they've had time to check her credit cards, bank accounts, etc to see if she purchased a bike. And, I would just assume they would have made more of a point to mention that it was HER bike and where she purchased it at, which would give them a point to focus on.

Right now, LE says they are at a dead end as far as leads. Since they have the WM video and they've confirmed that she never made it into Walmart that means she would have had to buy it someplace else, in under an hour...AND I would think they would have a record of that by now. If she did buy it someplace, like Kmart or something like that...LE hasn't released that information to the public.

P.S. The bike was definitely in her SUV, forgot to answer that. There are several frames of video where they show the man taking it out of the back.

[starling]

Thanks sjb for the info on the DH
No need to link..I'll take your word for it..poor guy :(

[shelkobe]

Originally posted by omsk99
Why do you think the bike didn't belong to the Smiths? I thought I read that it was in her car :shrug:

I really don't know what to think. I originally read it was her bike he took from the back of the SUV, but that is only mentioned in two articles. All the rest say it was "a" bike, which could mean it was hers, or it could belong to the guy in the video. It is uncommon for a woman her age (or even most people) to keep a bike in their car on a regular basis. If it was her bike, why haven't reporters explained why it was in there? Maybe she is a cycling enthusiast and always keeps it in her car; maybe she was planning on going to a park over the weekend to go bike riding; maybe she just left it in there from the previous weekend. Since someone appears to have used the bicycle as a getaway vehicle, it seems a natural question to ask, "Why was the bike in the back of the SUV?" Awfully convenient for this guy to have a builtin getaway vehicle in the back of her Navigator.

Also, what did she do in the morning? Where'd she go before she left her house at 1:30? It appears she went out earlier to eat at Cracker Barrel. Was she alone or with her husband?

That whole bike thing has me perplexed. What are the chances?

[kmccann]

I live in Murfreesboro, the same town as this lady. It is such a horrible thing and I can only imagine how hard it is on her family. I am outraged that there has been no search for her...but at the same time, the area is just huge...I can't imagine where they would start.

They reported that she lives behind Kroger on S Church Street. Barfield-Crescent is the next road over from the road beside Kroger leading into those houses. I had some time today and I drove over that way to see if there was any activity anywhere (and did not see any, except a guy filming the traffic and the street sign). The church (where her cell phone was located) is a couple of miles down Barfield Crescent Road (from S Church St). There is miles of farm land, empty fields, lots of woods (including a park and camping area) and even a large creek (I guess that is what you would call it). While this area is the opposite direction from the Walmart but a couple of miles, it is rather close to her house. It would take probably at least 20 minutes to drive to the Walmart from that area depending on the traffic.

I can't believe that her husband would have anything to do with this...he was so tore up on the news interview that I saw.

Even though I don't know this poor lady or her family, I live in the same town and it is really an awful thing...especially in broad daylight. I would definitely help out in any searches that they set up.

[sjb]

I was searching for any new information on Marsilene tonight and ran across the husbands video interview, his name is Glover. I'll post the link to the video and let people make their own conclusions as to whether or not this heart broken man was involved.

Link
http://www.wsmv.com/video/14803116/index.html

[shelkobe]

Thanks for the video link, sjb.

The husband mentions that her purse is missing. I wonder if that's another "clue" that the perpetrator has thrown out in some random, unrelated area but has yet to be found.

I hope they send the tape out to be enhanced.

[HarlettOhara]

Originally posted by shelkobe
Are there any locals posting on this thread... where is Barfield Crescent Road, where the cell phone was found, in relation to the WalMart and where Marcelene lived? [/*]

I live about 20 miles from them and about 7 from their daughter.

I would like to see the family call in TexasEquusearch.. the quicker they could get on this the better chances of finding Marsilene... TES does such a wonderful job in putting a search together.

[sjb]

Originally posted by HarlettOhara


I live about 20 miles from them and about 7 from their daughter.

I would like to see the family call in TexasEquusearch.. the quicker they could get on this the better chances of finding Marsilene... TES does such a wonderful job in putting a search together. [/*]

I totally agree, Harlett. If not TE, then at least a group search by volunteers. I think there are alot of us who would turn out if only LE would give us a focus point. It's odd to me that LE HASN'T given a location of where she may have made purchases. I would think that if she had made it to Kmart, or Kroger, or Old Time Pottery that they would have released that information. Because they haven't it still makes me think she's near her home. And as much as I hate to say it, I'm fearing the worst, but hoping for the best. It seems that if he had just pushed her out of the car she would have gone to a home, or a business looking for help.

O/T Until I read your post just now, I didn't realized that we lived so close by to one another. Although, you probably told me back in July... but those days are a blur. Thanks again for the beautiful work on my sisters Memorial site.

[sjb]

I found this story, this morning. It's the first one I've read that definitely states that the bicycle was NOT Marsilenes.

Link
http://www.murfreesboropost.com/news.php?viewStory=8110

[obi]

Does anyone know for sure where the cell phone was found? Where on Barfield Crescent Road? A cross street? A previous poster said it was found by the church. Is that true?

IMO, they need to start an organized search pronto. She can't be that far away.

[obi]

Also, for you locals, has it snowed much since she went missing?

[kmccann]

All of our news here in Murfreesboro has said that her phone was found on Barfield Crescent near Barfield Baptist Church...although they have not stated exactly where it was found.

Also...we have not had any snow...but we have had a couple of days of lots of rain. A couple of days of really warm temps, but it is dropping some now...possibility of some winter weather on Saturday, but around here it is usually a long shot for that....but the colder temps are coming in.

Based on the relatively short period of time between her talking to her husband and her vehicle showing up at Walmart...I do not understand why there has been no search organized in the area around her home and where her phone was found!

I have not seen any new information today either.

[kmccann]

just an fyi...I just mapquested it and it is approximately 4 miles between her house and the church mentioned where her cell phone was found nearby...and the walmart is about 6 1/2 miles in the other direction from her house.

[HarlettOhara]

Originally posted by sjb


I totally agree, Harlett. If not TE, then at least a group search by volunteers. I think there are alot of us who would turn out if only LE would give us a focus point. It's odd to me that LE HASN'T given a location of where she may have made purchases. I would think that if she had made it to Kmart, or Kroger, or Old Time Pottery that they would have released that information. Because they haven't it still makes me think she's near her home. And as much as I hate to say it, I'm fearing the worst, but hoping for the best. It seems that if he had just pushed her out of the car she would have gone to a home, or a business looking for help.

O/T Until I read your post just now, I didn't realized that we lived so close by to one another. Although, you probably told me back in July... but those days are a blur. Thanks again for the beautiful work on my sisters Memorial site. [/*]

I didn't know you had a website set up, I need to update the memorial site to put the link to it on there. I will try to remember to do it this weekend, you may have to remind me.

With this board closing Jan 1, we have set up a new board http://helpfindthemissing.org a lot of posters from here are already there. We have a lot of information on this case there that isn't here.

I agree, I think she is somewhere close to home. We have ariel views of where she lives and the surrounding areas. We are trying to put together the best places to be searched.

[HarlettOhara]

Originally posted by kmccann
just an fyi...I just mapquested it and it is approximately 4 miles between her house and the church mentioned where her cell phone was found nearby...and the walmart is about 6 1/2 miles in the other direction from her house. [/*]

There are 2 Walmarts in M'boro. The one she went to is on Old Fort Parkway.

[HarlettOhara]

Originally posted by obi
Also, for you locals, has it snowed much since she went missing? [/*]

Nope, we have had 75 degree weather here until today. We very seldom get snow.

[kmccann]

Sorry, I was referring to the Walmart where her car was found in relation to where her house is. Her vehicle was found at the Walmart on Rutherford Blvd.

[HarlettOhara]

Originally posted by kmccann
All of our news here in Murfreesboro has said that her phone was found on Barfield Crescent near Barfield Baptist Church...although they have not stated exactly where it was found.

Also...we have not had any snow...but we have had a couple of days of lots of rain. A couple of days of really warm temps, but it is dropping some now...possibility of some winter weather on Saturday, but around here it is usually a long shot for that....but the colder temps are coming in.

Based on the relatively short period of time between her talking to her husband and her vehicle showing up at Walmart...I do not understand why there has been no search organized in the area around her home and where her phone was found!

I have not seen any new information today either. [/*]

So with her phone being found by the church that means the back way to walmart would have been taken instead of going to church st, I24 and the Old Ft Pky.... I would look around Blackmon Rd... and that area.

[HarlettOhara]

Originally posted by HarlettOhara


So with her phone being found by the church that means the back way to walmart would have been taken instead of going to church st, I24 and the Old Ft Pky.... I would look around Blackmon Rd... and that area. [/*]

That should have been to Rutherford BLVD..

[HarlettOhara]

Originally posted by kmccann
Sorry, I was referring to the Walmart where her car was found in relation to where her house is. Her vehicle was found at the Walmart on Rutherford Blvd. [/*]

I was the one that was unclear in my posts.. I would think that if she had left to go to Walmart she probably headed towards the one on Old FT... but whoever took her SUV went to the Rutherford Blvd one... That's why I was saying I would look in those areas.

[darcie]

First I want to apologize to the family of Marsilene. I started the thread and I apparently got the spelling of her name wrong. I know it is probably not a *big deal* but I can't help but think the family is probably like geeez---get her name right. The spelling I got was from one of the first articles I found on her. So to the Smith family. I do apologize.

Thanks for the input from the locals. It's always nice to get a visual of the area. I wish a little more concern would be shown...like a public search. If nothing else, it brings comfort to the family.


Prayers for the Smith family.

[kmccann]

Actually I think the correct spelling is Marcelene...that is what I have found in all articles except one...and that is what her telephone listing comes up as. I think that article you saw the spelling with an S in is the incorrect one after all.

We have a chance of winter weather here today through tomorrow. There has been nothing on the news or online in a couple of days and that it frustrating.

[Heidi J.]

Originally posted by kmccann
Actually I think the correct spelling is Marcelene...that is what I have found in all articles except one...and that is what her telephone listing comes up as. I think that article you saw the spelling with an S in is the incorrect one after all.

We have a chance of winter weather here today through tomorrow. There has been nothing on the news or online in a couple of days and that it frustrating. [/*]

:rose: I hope she comes home soon. Alive and well.

[sjb]

I drove over to Murfreesboro yesterday just to look around all the areas that have been mentioned in the meida. I started at Marsilenes house. It seems to be one of those 55+ communities? It's also considered a private community, however it's not gated. It's just marked with a sign as you drive into the circle. I drove Village Green circle and noticed mainly elderly people in the area. The whole neighborhood, from Schoolside DR all the way down to Village Green Circle was a very quiet, well kept area. I found Marsilenes home and was kind of surprised that there were no cars or no signs of anyone at all being home. I guess I imagined there being lots of cars, family and friends, etc there but there wasn't a single car. The blinds were closed and as I said, it appeared as if no one was home.

I also noticed that all of the homes there have double car garages. It seemed most everyone parked in their garages. I know in some communities that's a requirement. However, with her SUV being pretty long I wondered if it would fit inside. But, if it did fit inside the garage then my theory of someone maybe snatching her as she was getting in her car would be "out the window" if she normally got into her car from INSIDE the garage, and then backed out.

The second thing that I noticed was that her home is the second home just as you enter the circle and someone would have had to have been really bold to snatch in her broad day light from the driveway as there are at least 10-25 homes that could have seen it happening. Her home is visibile to traffic going up and down her own street for quite a ways in both directions. Plus, there is a street that turns to the left just in front of her house and all of those houses would have a clear view of her home as well.

After I left her house I drove down to the church where LE stated they found the phone nearby. It's not far from her home at all. And, no disrespect to anyone who may live nearby the church but the area immediately surrounding the church looked a little rough. Small, run down homes, and old, old, mobile homes dotted the neighborhood. I wondered if maybe the person who took her lived nearby. However, if he did...he would have had a long trek back on that bike. Unless, he had a car someplace else that he rode to from the Walmart parking lot.

After leaving the church area I drove up and down Barfield Crescent and Barfield looking for anything that seemed like a good place not to be seen. There are several roads that lead off the main road, but they were muddy, very narrow roads and because I was in a car I didn't go down them. There are also alot of 4 wheeler paths around that area so there were fresh tire tracks every where.

There is a creek that runs along the road too, (with a bridge just before the church) and even though it appears to be relatively fast moving in places, it's also very shallow in places as well. Lots of debri (natural stuff, like sticks, logs, etc) too. So, if something or someone was in there I would think that the debri would have stopped the travel.

After I left Marsilenes area I went to Old Time Pottery and looked around there. I noticed they didn't have any surveilance cameras out in the parking lot. The only cameras nearby are the ones for Verizon and they were only at the entry ways and didnt seem to have the range to get anyone who wasn't walking in and out of that building (Verizon).

We know Walmart had surveilance so I didn't go there...and I forgot to check at Kroger, but I'm assuming they probably do as well.

I wish LE would release more information about the vehicle, for instance were the tires muddy? I know mine were. I drove down one road because there is a specific area that really piqued my interest. But, I turned around fearing I would get stuck. I have a Jeep 4x4 that I may go back over there in and check out the area again. But, I'm waiting for my girlfriend to be available to go with me because once I get to the area I want to see, I won't be visible from the main road.

I really wish the family would call for a volunteer search. IMO, the flyers were great for the first 48 hours, but at this point I think we can safely assume she's not walking around anywhere that someone is going to see her. In my sisters case, LE conducted a search looking for my sister using dogs, and planes and all kinds of things. But, they came up with nothing. Two days later my friends and family organized a search party of our own and found my sister in about an hour. She was approximately 300 yards away, lying in a field.

I guess that's why I feel such an urgency to search. She could be out there but because of LE limited resources and restrictions regarding search warrants they can only do so much. If they would release more about where she MIGHT be or where she might have BEEN at least those of us who want to look can go on our own and do so.

[Candace]

Oh my, how sad about this poor woman. I hope shes found alive and well. Prayers for the family.:rose:

[Heidi J.]

Thanks for the info SJB. I hope her family gets news soon.

O/T Glad to see you are still around. My prayers are with your family this holiday season.:wreath:

[shelkobe]

Thanks for the info., sjb, quite interesting. I think the fact that the guy on the bicycle looks to be an older person and the fact that Marselene lived in an age restricted community to be quite interesting. If an older person were walking down one of the streets he would not look out of place at all.

I'm also very sorry about your sister, sjb. I was lurking on her thread at the time she went missing and I distinctly remember the video that was posted when she was found.

So there are no searches planned, at least any that involve volunteers from the community?

[sjb]

Originally posted by Heidi J.
Thanks for the info SJB. I hope her family gets news soon.

O/T Glad to see you are still around. My prayers are with your family this holiday season.:wreath: [/*]

Hi Heidi,

Thank you for remembering my family in your prayers. It really means alot. With the holidays coming up and Christmas day also being Amy's birthday it's been rougher than usual.

I also wanted to thank you for remembering Amy. The candle site is still up and there is a link to it from my website at www.helpfindamy.com

I'm hoping that a few people might remember her around the holidays and light a candle or two in her memory. Those candles help us find peace...I don't know how or why, ...but they just do.

Thanks again,

[sjb]

Originally posted by shelkobe
Thanks for the info., sjb, quite interesting. I think the fact that the guy on the bicycle looks to be an older person and the fact that Marselene lived in an age restricted community to be quite interesting. If an older person were walking down one of the streets he would not look out of place at all.

I'm also very sorry about your sister, sjb. I was lurking on her thread at the time she went missing and I distinctly remember the video that was posted when she was found.

So there are no searches planned, at least any that involve volunteers from the community? [/*]

Hi Shelkobe, thank you too for your thoughts regarding my sister.

What you said about an older person not looking out of place in that community hadn't occured to me until you said it. That's a very good point.

As far as searches, still nothing planned that I've heard about and I check constantly. I search the web every couple of hours hoping to find some news about her story but there's nothing new since the cell phone was found.

The Chief of police in Murfreesboro said that he felt sure that the media would communicate a request for volunteer searchers if and when it comes to that. I hope it comes sooner, rather then later.

[kmccann]

Even though I went up and down Barfield Crescent the other day I did not go by her house....thank you for all that info.

This is my first time really following something this close...is it normal for no one to have called for a search by now and for the media to just stop reporting and get no info? I, too, check online alot to see if there are any updates. I just think that if this was my family I couldn't just sit and do nothing. I would be glad to help search and I'm sure alot of people would be as well.

[sjb]

Originally posted by kmccann
Even though I went up and down Barfield Crescent the other day I did not go by her house....thank you for all that info.

This is my first time really following something this close...is it normal for no one to have called for a search by now and for the media to just stop reporting and get no info? I, too, check online alot to see if there are any updates. I just think that if this was my family I couldn't just sit and do nothing. I would be glad to help search and I'm sure alot of people would be as well. [/*]

Hi K,

For me, it's not normal for no one to have called for a search by now. I know in my sister's case LE did not want to call for a search or for a press conference right away. She went missing on July 21st, and by July 22nd I was telling my Mom that we needed to start looking for her NOW and that we needed to contact the media NOW. For whatever reason, LE talked her out of it and said they wanted to wait a few more days.

Well, I was insistent...and my Mom said "OK, if you think that's best". So, I contacted the media on July 22nd, and they were out there by that afternoon. My Mom and Step Dad were out of their minds with worry, trying to field questions from the media AND control the flood of people coming to the house. They were overwhelmed to say the least. On July 23rd my Bio Dad drove down from Portland, OR and kind of took control. He gathered everyone in one spot, gave them the basics on how a grid search works (he's not LE, just a regular dude) and said lets do it. They split up into teams and in within an hour or so they had found her.

In Marsilenes case I'm not sure why the family hasn't requested volunteer searches, but I wish they would. Maybe they're also over whelmed? Or, maybe LE is discouraging it. I don't know why they discourage it, but judging from my sisters case I know for a fact that in some cases they do. LE was kind of irritated with my Mom when the press started to descend on the house, and then they were embarassed when we, the family were the ones to find her (my sister) just a short time later. They (LE) had already searched the area but didn't find her.

I've posted over on the other board www.helpfindthemissing.org that it's frustrating that LE haven't released any other details. For instance, confirming whether or not her credit cards were used, was she seen on any surveilance tapes anywhere that day? Were there any items in her car, shopping bags, and if so from where? It just seems to me they could have released some of these details (if they have them) without jeopardizing a case.

I'll say it again...frustrating...to say the least.

P.S. Thanks for lighting the candle on my sisters site,...I saw it this morning.

[kmccann]

Thanks for the reply, sjb. I appreciate your input.

I'm really sorry for all that your family has had to go through with the loss of your sister...I can't imagine how difficult that must be.

Because of the timeline, I have felt that they should have circulated the picture of that guy on the bike around her home because it feels like that it where it all started.

Is is ever proper to contact the family and offer any help? I just feel so helpless sitting around waiting for news.

I'll go check out the other site, tks...

[missthegirls]

I too think that it is very frustrating that LE has not released more information..........I can say that in my missing daughter and granddaughter's case LE discouraged any information from being given to the media and even told the media the next morning after they were reported missing that "there is no news from overnight", when local media made a routine call to the sheriff's dept. When we, the family, spoke to the media LE got upset and have continued to discourage us from giving any information to the media. As far as searches go.......Jennifer and Adrianna have been missing for 3 years and 9 months and there still has not been a search for them. After being missing for two years LE did (or say they did) search the boyfriend's family property. I'll never know for sure because they would not tell me when they would search and the day that they did would not let anyone within a mile of the property. Our family has searched quiet a few places but could only do so much on our own and never had the community support to do a good search. Also, over and over again several professional search groups from other parts of the country have offered to come here to lead a search (5 mile radius is what they recommend) but LE has refused to give their support or assistance when all that was asked for was one officer in case evidence was found.........the reason I'm saying all this is just to say that you never know what the family is being instructed by the officials and I'm not so sure that it's always the right thing to do by listening to them!

As far as offering help to the family.......I don't know the right answer to that. I would have loved an offer of help when my girls vanished into thin air, but some people don't want it. I am co-founder of TN Alliance for Families of the Missing here in TN and no one from the family has contacted any from our organization for help. Our organization does not contact the family but we do let the investigating agency know our contact information to pass to the family, though I don't believe that ever happens. We would be very glad to help in any way we could!

I so hope they find this dear lady soon and I am praying for her family to have strength and above all hope.


sjb**** You and your family will always remain in my thoughts and prayers, I am so sorry for what you all have gone through. I lit a candle for Amy and think of her often.

[omsk99]

Family is handing out flyers. In response to an earlier discussion, the bike was in the trunk of her car:

"Daughter of missing woman makes impassioned plea"

http://dnj.midsouthnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071212/NEWS01/712120325/1002

I just can't wrap my mind around it. The car was found, someone took off on her bike, so who could have taken Marcelene and where, since someone took off on her bike, alone? :shrug:

:rose:

[kmccann]

Well, still no news. I did get replies from Channel 5 news and the Murfreesboro Chief of Police. Same 'ol nothing....

Channel 5 says that they have had no news since the discovery of the cell phone.

Chief of Police tells me that it is an on-going case...and that since no search location has been identified that no search is planned at this time and that if community assistance is needed that a public request will be issued.

No, nothing....

Honestly I just do not understand this...why isn't someone doing something? How do you just go on with life doing nothing?

I was going to drive down that way today after my Dr appt, but I wasn't able to make it.

[obi]

Bump :rose:

[darcie]

Thinking of you Marsilene.....Praying you find you way home soon.

[sjb]

Bumping for Marcie.

:rose:

[starling]

found this~
the granddaughter is (supposidly)posting on this forum
she speaks of a refused poly test & LE taking the grandmothers bike (from Marcie's home) in for processing

http://forums.dnj.com/viewtopic.php?t=20216&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=15

[kmccann]

thanks for sharing that, Starling...very interesting.

[omsk99]

Very interesting indeed.I am confused about the bike, though. So it wasn't Marcie's bike in the car that the man rode off on? I did read that the bike was taken out of her trunk of her car. The fact that LE took teh bike from her home ot process means they haven't ruled the husband out yet. And he has refused to take the poly...

:rose:

[starling]

This article below says the bike the perp was riding was "neon green".
It would answer an important question (for me) to know what color Marcie's bike is ..and indeed if a bike was taken from Marcie's home by LE for processing.
JMO


http://www.wsmv.com/news/14798035/detail.html
The man on the bike rode away toward a wine store.
“We want to know who that person is. He is a person of interest. He has certainly answered a question for us, but opened so many more questions,” Evans said....
Police said the man in the video appeared to be wearing a light jacket and was riding a neon-green bike.

[sjb]

Originally posted by starling
This article below says the bike the perp was riding was "neon green".
It would answer an important question (for me) to know what color Marcie's bike is ..and indeed if a bike was taken from Marcie's home by LE for processing.
JMO


http://www.wsmv.com/news/14798035/detail.html
The man on the bike rode away toward a wine store.
“We want to know who that person is. He is a person of interest. He has certainly answered a question for us, but opened so many more questions,” Evans said....
Police said the man in the video appeared to be wearing a light jacket and was riding a neon-green bike. [/*]

One of Marcie's family members (the grand daughter I believe) said that her Grandmother did have her own bike, but it was at home. She said that LE later took the bike for processing.

She has posted a few times at the forums at www.dnj.com

Here's a link to the post about the bike.
http://tinyurl.com/39dtcr

Top of the page, the post by find_marcie_smith

[starling]

Hi sjb,
Thanks for the reply.
Re: that forum & that post.... I linked it earlier in this thread under "found this~"

I still want to know the color of Marcie's bike taken (per the g/daughter) by LE from Marcie's home. I noticed the GD has not posted that info.
Bothers me that the husband has (supposidly) refused a poly and it seems no searches are being conducted by LE.


JMO

[sjb]

Originally posted by starling
Hi sjb,
Thanks for the reply.
Re: that forum & that post.... I linked it earlier in this thread under "found this~"

I still want to know the color of Marcie's bike taken (per the g/daughter) by LE from Marcie's home. I noticed the GD has not posted that info.
Bothers me that the husband has (supposidly) refused a poly and it seems no searches are being conducted by LE.


JMO [/*]

Yeah, Starling...it does seem odd to me too that the husband refused the polygraph. After seeing his emotional interview I can't even imagine him being involved in some way. I'm sure he's refusing the polygraph at his attorneys advice, but...that being said if it were me I would take it regardless of attorney advice. While there is a possibility of a false positive, the chances of him failing it when he's truly innocent are remote. ( I did a paper on polygraph tests, their accuracy, how to fool them, etc, in college).

I think it was Mark Klaas that said "if you have nothing to hide, take the test as quickly as possibly so LE can move on". I'm paraphrasing of course...but I know you get my point. With a polygraph not being admissiable in court, and if you're a person who is innocent with nothing to hide, why not roll the dice?

Poly or no...I wish the family would step out and do a search on their own. From what I've read and heard so far, they seem really intimidated by LE and are afraid to do anything at all without permission from them first.

At this point, I think we all know the unfortunate circumstance of Marcilene, ...but I sure hope the family will come out soon and ask for that search so they can have their Mother/Grandmother back.

[starling]

http://www.wkrn.com/nashville/news/family-celebrates-bittersweet-christmas/134794.htm

[obi]

Originally posted by starling
http://www.wkrn.com/nashville/news/family-celebrates-bittersweet-christmas/134794.htm [/*]:(

[darcie]

Thinking of you Marcelene~~

[starling]

http://dnj.midsouthnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071228/NEWS01/712280327/1002

(snips from the article)

The search for 69-year-old Marcie Smith, who went missing more than three weeks ago, has gone cold, police said.
The family has gone door-to-door on several occasions, soliciting any information from neighbors and residents who might have seen something, but their efforts have been fruitless. Now, Marcie Smith's husband is offering a $10,000 reward to anyone with information leading to the conviction of the person responsible for Smith's disappearance and the discovery of her body, according to a family member who contacted The DNJ by e-mail.
Glover Smith, the missing woman's husband, declined an interview with The Daily News Journal, saying he wanted to talk with his attorney first. He has not returned followup phone calls from The DNJ.
The family members who held two press conferences following Marcie Smith's disappearance and circulated fliers around town in attempts to locate her have not returned calls or responded to e-mail requests for interviews......

What's more confusing, police said, is where Smith's cell phone was found.
"It's not on the way between her home and Wal-Mart," Evans said. "It raises the question: How did the phone get there?".....

...Without any leads, investigators have decided to forego searching the outskirts of Murfreesboro with dogs.
"There's nowhere to start," Evans said.....


During a press conference earlier this month, LeAnn Barnes begged people with information about the man on the bicycle to come forward. The man's features are difficult to make out on the video because of the distance across the parking lot from the camera.....

[KittyMom]

Can LE not enhance the parking lot video?

[kmccann]

It really bothers me that none of the family are talking, except to an attorney it appears....and won't do interviews, nor have they asked for assistance in searching.

I live right here and this is the first that I've heard of any reward at all. If the family isn't doing any interviews etc then they aren't getting the info on the reward out to anyone.

I guess I don't understand just going on after something like this without asking for help in doing all that you can to find her. It really blows my mind. There has been so little info on this case given to the public....it just seems like something isn't adding up to me any more....and I hate that.

[obi]

Originally posted by kmccann
It really bothers me that none of the family are talking, except to an attorney it appears....and won't do interviews, nor have they asked for assistance in searching.

I live right here and this is the first that I've heard of any reward at all. If the family isn't doing any interviews etc then they aren't getting the info on the reward out to anyone.

I guess I don't understand just going on after something like this without asking for help in doing all that you can to find her. It really blows my mind. There has been so little info on this case given to the public....it just seems like something isn't adding up to me any more....and I hate that. [/*]I see that a family member (assuming the daughter) posted once on the Help Find the Missing message boards. She says that LE doesn't want them searching and doesn't even want them to appeal to hunters and to farmers to search their property. Her last words in the post are "Please help me!!!!!!!!!"

They did do a presser early on (before the reward announcement I believe), but I haven't heard anything since then. At least they put up a reward, but if they aren't going to broadcast it loud and clear, what good is it?

[starling]

Yes EG,
VERY :no: SAD & horrific if what I think has gone down did indeed...
http://www.newschannel5.com/Global/story.asp?S=7562279

Police Shift Theory In Missing Woman Case

....Police first thought she was a possible victim of a random carjacking, but now there's a possibility that someone close to Smith is responsible for her disappearance....
About three weeks ago, Marcie Smith, 69, disappeared. Her husband told Murfreesboro police she went shopping and never returned. The only evidence was surveillance video from a Walmart parking lot. It shows a man pulling a bicycle from Marcie's SUV and casually riding away."The posture would indicate it's probably an older person riding the bicycle," said Kyle Evans, a Murfreesboro Police Spokesperson.Police have not found the man, and wonder if Marcie ever made it to Walmart. Initially her family went public, calling news conferences and canvassing neighborhoods.
Her husband Glover Smith was emotional asking anyone who may know her whereabouts to help. Smith gave a heartfelt plea after his wife disappeared, but now he's not talking.
"My understanding is that Smith hired an attorney and communication is very limited," said Evans.
Evans said there are still questions about the timetable of Marcie's disappearance. Her husband said she left at 1:30 to go shopping, and 55 minutes later her SUV turned up at the Walmart.
That raises the question: Could a stranger randomly carjack Marcia, kill her, dispose of a body and then casually park it in a crowded Walmart lot in less than an hour? Now the police are looking at the family.
"As of now not officially ruled suspects, but not ruling out someone from the family is involved in this case," said Evans......
(more at link)

JMO

[obi]

Now I want to go back and listen to that tearful interview he did.

[starling]

Originally posted by obi
I see that a family member (assuming the daughter) posted once on the Help Find the Missing message boards. She says that LE doesn't want them searching and doesn't even want them to appeal to hunters and to farmers to search their property. Her last words in the post are "Please help me!!!!!!!!!"

They did do a presser early on (before the reward announcement I believe), but I haven't heard anything since then. At least they put up a reward, but if they aren't going to broadcast it loud and clear, what good is it? [/*]

"""Her last words in the post are "Please help me!!!!!!!!!"""""


As sad as it is,she needs to say that to the DH.
I feel so sorry for the daughters & granddaughter if this turns out the way it is heading. We are coming up on a month. Marcie needs to be found. Maybe 'someone' thought any evidence of how she died would be gone if she was not found for a very long time. I am still curious (it may be in a past article) when the last time someone (other than the husband) spoke with Marcie or actually SAW her? Reminds me of Scott Peterson setting up a small window timeline - when in reality he had loads of time.
The DH looks down in all the post missing photos & through his interview. He has a 'no neck' profile ,pot belly and the older man on the bike has the same.
I hope I'm wrong.

JMO

[Brooke]

Originally posted by EG~Lives
Hi Starling!

I keep checking for an update. The thing that bothers me is that there has been NO mention of why they took Marcies bike from her garage.

Do you think the bike that the perp rode off on may well have been the one they took from her garage?


I wish they would find her body??? [/*]

I thought the bike was taken off her SUV in the Walmart parking lot?

[darcie]

Geeez----I can't believe things are pointing towards the hubby. unbelievable! :cuss:

[starling]

Honestly, I think LE is leaking all this to get him to cave


:rose: for Marcie,may you be found soon


JMO

[air man]

I HAVE BEEN FRIENDS WITH THE SMITHS FOR A LONG TIME. HER HUSBAND HAS NEVER BEEN NICE TO HER. IT LOOKED LIKE THE HUSBAND TO ME ON THE BIKE. AND HE GOT A LAWER ON THE SECOND DAY SHE WENT MISSING? NOW MY ATTENTION WOULD BE FIND MY WIFE AND NOT I NEED A LAWER!!! MR.SMITH HAS BEEN KNOWN TO ROUGH HER UP FROM TIME TO TIME AND I KNOW OF A TIME HE HELD HER BACK TO A WALL AND WOULDN'T LET HER GO JUST BECAUSE SHE TOOK TO LONG A TIME IN THE RESTROOM. I THINK THAT HE KILLED HER AND DUMPED THE BODY AND ON THE WAY HOME SEEN THE CELL PHONE AND THROUGH IT OUT THEN WENT TO WALLMART AND RODE THE BIKE HOME. HE KNEW THAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE MAYBE SOMEONE TOOK HER FROM THERE. I GUESS THE CAMERA NEVER CAME TO HIS MIND. MARCIE AND PALMER WERE GOOD PEOPLE I THINK HE MAY HAVE HURT HER THEN REALIZED HE NEEDED TO DO SOMETHING FAST AND THE REST OF THE STORY WILL ONE DAY COME AROUND. GOD WILL SEE THAT THIS CASE IS SOLVED.

[Noahs ARK]

Originally posted by EG~Lives
Anyone local hearing any news??? [/*]

Nope - not one word. :(

[Noahs ARK]

Originally posted by EG~Lives



Hi Noah.... if you hear anything, please let us know.
[/*]

:patriot:

I watch the local news every day because I keep thinking they'll say something!!

[air man]

THEY WILL KEEP THIS QUIET UNTIL THE EVIDENCE ON HER HUSBAND IS ALL THERE TO CONVICT HIM. IT REALLY SADENS ME THAT I KNOW THEM AND HAVE ALWAYS LIKED THEM BOTH. I DO PRAY THEY'LL FIND HER AND PUT A END TO THIS TERRABLE THING.

[Angels Mum]

*bump*

Is there ANYTHING new????????

[just42day97]

Bumping

Any news at all?
This isn't very far from me....

:rose:

[Angels Mum]

bumping**

Airman, any news since you posted 1/10/07???

[obi]

Originally posted by Grace1967


I cannot believe no news and no family BEGGING for her return! [/*]Neither can the rest of us.

[Angels Mum]

*bump*

There has to be something to report, something has to be going on. I can't believe it either. Doesn't anyone care what happened to this defenseless woman.

[Angels Mum]

Originally posted by EG~Lives



I think her family has quit asking questions because they've come to terms witht he fact that her husband is responsible.


I just can't believe we're not even hearing 'the word on the street'.

Just SILENCE. She deserves to be brought home and laid to rest.


IMO [/*]

I think you are right Sweet Pea. I saw Air Man was on the site and was praying he was posting to this thread but nada. :(

[sjb]

Found this new article today. It's not much. But at least it's new.

And, FWIW...regardless of who harmed her, the fact remains she's still missing. It baffles me that more hasn't been done to search for her.

Here's the link to the latest article I found.
http://www.dnj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080117/NEWS01/80117021

[just42day97]

Originally posted by sjb
Found this new article today. It's not much. But at least it's new.

And, FWIW...regardless of who harmed her, the fact remains she's still missing. It baffles me that more hasn't been done to search for her.

Here's the link to the latest article I found.
http://www.dnj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080117/NEWS01/80117021 [/*]

This is so sad that more is not being done...
So anyone know the answer to this?
If her car was found at walmart...did it show her going into walmart?

[sjb]

Originally posted by just42day97


This is so sad that more is not being done...
So anyone know the answer to this?
If her car was found at walmart...did it show her going into walmart? [/*]

No, there was no video of her going into Walmart. From what they saw on their parking lot cameras it was the unknown perp that drove the SUV into the parking lot. From what they've said Marcie was never seen on any video from Walmart, inside or out.

Old Time Pottery is believed to have been one of the places she was going that day. When I went into the store about a week later to make a return for a previous purchase I talked to the girl at the counter. They had Marcy's picture there so I asked her..."Do you guys know if she ever made it to this store that day?" The girl replied, "We checked all of our sales transactions for that day and we didn't find any purchases made by her". So, either they don't have cameras in the store ( I looked for them and I didn't see them)...or maybe they're just not allowed to say anything about them. But, she did verify that Marcy never made a purchase at the store.

There were no visible cameras outside the Old Time Pottery either. There is a Verizon Call Center in the same parking lot, and they did have small cameras at the doors as you enter the building but I don't think they would cover the parking lot area, they were small and positioned just over the entry/exit doors.

:rose: For Marcy.

[air man]

:hat:
I'm asking everyone outhere to keep me posted on this story. I really am praying that they find her. Please let me know on current developments?

[just42day97]

Originally posted by sjb


No, there was no video of her going into Walmart. From what they saw on their parking lot cameras it was the unknown perp that drove the SUV into the parking lot. From what they've said Marcie was never seen on any video from Walmart, inside or out.

Old Time Pottery is believed to have been one of the places she was going that day. When I went into the store about a week later to make a return for a previous purchase I talked to the girl at the counter. They had Marcy's picture there so I asked her..."Do you guys know if she ever made it to this store that day?" The girl replied, "We checked all of our sales transactions for that day and we didn't find any purchases made by her". So, either they don't have cameras in the store ( I looked for them and I didn't see them)...or maybe they're just not allowed to say anything about them. But, she did verify that Marcy never made a purchase at the store.

There were no visible cameras outside the Old Time Pottery either. There is a Verizon Call Center in the same parking lot, and they did have small cameras at the doors as you enter the building but I don't think they would cover the parking lot area, they were small and positioned just over the entry/exit doors.

:rose: For Marcy. [/*]


Thanks for the info....
Bless her....I wished they would form some sort of a search for her...

[HarlettOhara]

Originally posted by just42day97



Thanks for the info....
Bless her....I wished they would form some sort of a search for her... [/*]

We have offered to help get them in touch with Tim Miller at TES, but have never heard anything back about it.

There's a website for Marcie at http://helpfindthemissing.org/marsilene_smith

[starling]

http://www.tennessean.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080118/NEWS03/801180417/1017/NEWS01
Channel 4 won't give police its video footage in missing person case




how odd......JMO

[Heidi J.]

Originally posted by starling
http://www.tennessean.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080118/NEWS03/801180417/1017/NEWS01
Channel 4 won't give police its video footage in missing person case




how odd......JMO [/*]

hmmmmm......

[darcie]

Thoughts and prayers for Marcelene tonight......It's so hard to understand how a person just disappears. Poof....without a trace.

I wish there was a way for all the missing to be found......

[HarlettOhara]

Originally posted by EG~Lives



Thank you Harlett!!

I can understand the daughter not doing interviews anymore if the police are leaning in the direction of the husband as the POI, but geez... don't they want her FOUND?


This case is driving me nuts.


I hope she is laid to rest soon.


:rose: [/*]

We have found out that they did get in touch with TES a couple of weeks ago... I hope someting comes of it and a search gets put together.

We have put together a new slide show on the main site with Marcie's pix in it now.

http://helpfindthemissing.org

I hope we can raise some awareness for all of these missing people along with Marcie. To many are not given any or very little media coverage.

[starling]

http://www.rctimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080120/COUNTY07/801200403/1006/MTCN0301
Sunday, 01/20/08
Murfreesboro police review TV tapes in missing woman case
MURFREESBORO — Police investigators are reviewing footage of a missing Murfreesboro woman's family and friends talking to news crews, hoping to gain new leads in the case.
Television news stations in Nashville agreed to hand over on-camera interviews to aid in the search for Marcie Smith, 69, a diabetic who's been missing for six weeks, Murfreesboro police spokesman Kyle Evans said.
"Hopefully it will provide us with possible new witnesses," Evans said. "Some of the things we're going to focus on are interviews with the people who saw Marcie last and the people who are closest to this case."
Police subpoenaed all footage concerning the missing person investigation on Thursday.
Channel 4 News Director Matthew Hilk said his station provided investigators with the interviews that aired on TV....
Police said the tapes could open a door in the investigation by providing a new angle.
The ethical considerations are a moot point for Channel 4 News. Although station policy precludes the station from releasing unedited interviews, Hilk said, staffers don't even archive footage that isn't used.
"Those tapes have already been recycled and reused," he said.
Smith's vehicle was found Dec. 7 in a Wal-Mart parking lot on Rutherford Boulevard, about seven miles from her home in south Murfreesboro.
Her husband, Glover Smith, had reported her missing a day earlier, saying she had not returned from a shopping trip.

_______________
This clears a ton up for me ...how could Ch 4 know exactly "who" would be suspect and evidently the Ch 4 News interview footage of "some" family members was recorded over .
I do hope they get to the bottom of this as Marcie needs to be found & RIP.

JMO

[starling]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modus_operandi
Modus operandi:
Actions considered consistent with MO can be linked to one of three intended purposes;
1) to ensure the offender's success in committing the crime
2) to obscure or otherwise protect the offender from being readily identified or
3) to facilitate or effect the offender's escape
Actions discovered during an investigation which fall into one or more of these categories can be ascribed as MO.



I would like to see a family member/friend/neighbor/stranger in passing/ version of Marcie's timeline. A 'Marcie Smith last sighting' or 'last phone call' by someone other than the DH's recount of events. She could be in a landfill ..could be anywhere.
There is no perfect crime though.. & guess this perp has gone so far down his road there is no turning back. A shame for Marcie's family. I'm dissappointed, as looking back (when LE shifted theory) I thought his tears in the interview were of remorse. Now IMO the wimpering was because a camera caught him riding away.


JMO,MOO,IMO of course

[Angels Mum]

:rose:

*bump*

[starling]

video (not stills) of perp parking her car & riding the bike away
http://www.clipsyndicate.com/publish/video/467184/missing_woman?wpid=0


:rose: 2 months

[Brooke]

:rose:

[PPS]

Originally posted by Grace1967


I do understand it would be difficult if my father were the POI in a case like this however I would be ASHAMED if I did not try and locate my mother, for goodness sake they need to bring her home to rest in peace. [/*]

Perhaps it's not her father that she should worry about, how about HER husband? Let's think about the remaining family. I understand that her brother was questioned also. There is a lot that is not being released to the public.

[starling]

Originally posted by PPS


Perhaps it's not her father that she should worry about, how about HER husband? Let's think about the remaining family. I understand that her brother was questioned also. There is a lot that is not being released to the public. [/*]

How old are these men.. the husband & the brother?
Any photos of their body types?
Seriously?


JMO

[starling]

another forum: (you can read the prev posts also..some interesting comments there IMO)
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/murfreesboro-tn/TJ1S69FK17775RNLK/p4

[darcie]

Bumping for marcelene.....we haven't forgotten.

[TrulySassy]

Originally posted by Mama
Are they even looking for Marcie? Breaks my heart to think she's out there in the cold. If it was my Mom - nothing would stop me. WTH??? [/*]







ITA

[ruby]

:rose:

[desmom]

Does her husband ride a bike? I would like to see a video of him riding a bike to compare to the video from the parking lot.

[starling]

Originally posted by desmom
Does her husband ride a bike? I would like to see a video of him riding a bike to compare to the video from the parking lot. [/*]

ITA!
Oh desmom, I elect you head of LE in Murfeesboro!!!!
It's a no brainer, isn't it? He should talk a poly & a ride if he is innocent...
Instead he has lawyered up...go figure!


JMO

[desmom]

Originally posted by starling
another forum: (you can read the prev posts also..some interesting comments there IMO)
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/murfreesboro-tn/TJ1S69FK17775RNLK/p4 [/*]

Well that was definitely interesting...

Thank you for the link.

[obi]

Originally posted by desmom
Does her husband ride a bike? I would like to see a video of him riding a bike to compare to the video from the parking lot. [/*]Hmmm. Good idea, des. I doubt LE will think of such a good idea, though.

[Angels Mum]

Bump, there's gotta be something going on with this case.

For Marce and loved ones :rose:

[sjb]

The local news ran a story last night regarding a Murfreesboro woman who has filed a harrassment complaint against Palmer Smith, husband of missing Murfreesboro woman Marcilene Smith.

He doesn't look quite as innocent to me now as he did before, ...just my opinion.

Here is a link to the article.

http://www.fox17.com/newsroom/top_stories/vid_1303.shtml


SJB
In memory or my sister, Amy. (http://www.helpfindamy.com)

[darcie]

Wow! That is an interesting tidbit of information. I can only say that is one dumb man.

I was kinda hoping this would be a case that the husband would NOT be involved.

Prayers for you Marcelene!

[shelkobe]

This link has a similar story and video on the harassment charges filed by the hairdresser. http://www.newschannel5.com/Global/story.asp?S=8043929

I will say though that in the video that I posted the newscaster's voiceover says the hairdresser met Palmer Smith in a bar, but in the link SJB posted the video story says it is a restaurant and shows a picture of it. I looked it up and it is apparently a family restaurant. Not that what Smith is doing is okay, but when I saw the video where it mentioned "bar" I was thinking some dark, dank pickup place, and not a family~style restaurant.

Either way, that is odd behavior for a married man with a wife missing.

[starling]

Harassing this woman...
that's not going to fair well for someone if this ever goes to trial IMO

scroll down on forum to(Fri March 7) 'word on the street'
something about getting his finances together in order to post bond
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/murfreesboro-tn/TJ1S69FK17775RNLK/p4


Sociopaths honestly think they can stay one step ahead. Unbelievable.





:rose: for Marcie & for justice

[starling]

Reposting this older article...the timeline speaks volumes IMO
http://www.newschannel5.com/Global/story.asp?S=7562279

[HarlettOhara]

Originally posted by Grace1967



He has acted odd from beginning.

Anyone remember when Noami (last name??) was missing or the girl from Louisianna (can see her face cannot remember her first name at all) the husbands posted?? eventually arrested??

I think the person who did this to this lady has posted, they really think they are smart acting all innocent howver they are so transparent.

Matter of time I hope. [/*]

That was Naomi Arnette from IL.. her husband Robert is awaiting trial, it's set for April.

We have another case, Lori Slesinski, where the Prime Suspect is posting on the board... we have caught him in quite a few lies already.

The other was Brandi Hawkins Laurent... her husband Leo was posting.

[shelkobe]

Originally posted by HarlettOhara
That was Naomi Arnette from IL.. her husband Robert is awaiting trial, it's set for April.
*snip*

Oh I remember that. I was lurking/posting on the Arnette board and that was really something.

I should probably go back and reread on this thread before commenting, but my memory says it was other, female relatives that posted on Marcelene's thread, as opposed to a spouse.

[starling]

ANOTHER COMPLAINT against Marcie's husband by a second woman

http://www.wkrn.com/global/story.asp?s=8053213

Woman says missing woman's husband stalked her
A second woman has now come forward and said Palmer Smith, the husband of Marsilene Smith, who disappeared in early December 2007 and has not been seen since, has been harassing her.
The woman lives in the Smith's neighborhood and did not want to appear on camera.According to the police report however, Smith called her four times, leaving messages on her answering machine. The woman told police, "It seemed like he wanted to talk."........In the report, the neighbor, who lives by herself, said Smith has been seen parked in front of her residence on two occasions._
Another neighbor who spoke with News 2 off camera said Marsilene Smith visited her just days before her disappearance._ She said she was complaining about her husband and even used the words "we don't even like each other.".............
News 2 spoke with Teresa Goodwin Thursday._
She filed a report with police after she said Smith would not stop calling her...............

[HarlettOhara]

Developments In Missing Murfreesboro Woman Case
Posted: April 9, 2008 08:10 PM

MURFREESBORO, Tenn. - There are developments in the case of a missing Murfreesboro woman.

Marcie Smith disappeared nearly six months ago.

The only evidence in the case is this surveillance video from a Wal-Mart parking lot. It shows someone riding a bicycle after parking Smith's sports utility.

Police said her husband, Palmer Smith is not a suspect, but they are monitoring his behavior.

Police have compared the case to the Janet March case. Perry March, a former Nashville attorney, was convicted of murdering his wife, Janet, who disappeared without a trace.

In August 2006, he was found guilty of second-degree murder. Her body has never been found.

Marcie Smith disappeared last December. At the time, her husband, Palmer Smith asked for help to find his wife.

But he has stopped talking and hired a lawyer.

He is also accused of stalking.

Teresa Goodwin said he approached her at a bar and later showed up at her work. She filed a harassment report.

Goodwin said Smith talked of his wife in the past tense.

This remains a missing person's case. Investigators have not found a body. Marcie Smith could be alive.

But NewsChannel 5 has learned Palmer Smith purchased a coffin and headstone for his wife.

"That doesn't mean he's guilty of anything more than that strange behavior, but we do take it seriously and it's part of the overall investigation," said Murfreesboro Police spokesman Kyle Evans.

Smith could not be reached for comment. But the attorney has said that Smith didn't have anything to do with his wife's disappearance.

Video at link

http://www.newschannel5.com/Global/story.asp?S=8144736
__________________

[Angels Mum]

[snipped]

But NewsChannel 5 has learned Palmer Smith purchased a coffin and headstone for his wife.

"That doesn't mean he's guilty of anything more than that strange behavior, but we do take it seriously and it's part of the overall investigation," said Murfreesboro Police spokesman Kyle Evans.


That just gives me the creeps as well as Mr. Smith himself. I'm sorry, I think he should be prime suspect #1. JMO That guy on the bike looks way too much like him.

[starling]

Originally posted by Angels Mum
[snipped]

But NewsChannel 5 has learned Palmer Smith purchased a coffin and headstone for his wife.

"That doesn't mean he's guilty of anything more than that strange behavior, but we do take it seriously and it's part of the overall investigation," said Murfreesboro Police spokesman Kyle Evans.


That just gives me the creeps as well as Mr. Smith himself. I'm sorry, I think he should be prime suspect #1. JMO That guy on the bike looks way too much like him. [/*]

Creepy is right!
How does he know she didn't just take a break from the likes of HIM?
Probably jockying himself to collect on an Insurance policy.


JMO

[Angels Mum]

:rose: Bump. Anything anybody. This case is so very sad to me. I wish some news would break.

[Sherlocke]

There have been some developments around Murfreesboro in the past couple of days that may or may not be related to the Marcie Smith case.

http://www.dnj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080606/NEWS01/806060312&referrer=FRONTPAGECAROUSEL

The above link is a story about a homeless woman who has gone missing near the area where Marcie Smith vanished. To give those who are out of town some perspective, this latest woman was on the road that is off of exit 78 of I-24. Marcie supposedly disappeared near where exit 81 intersects with Highway 231. So that is about 3 miles as the crow flies.

That alone would probably not be enough for a connection. (I doubt there is one anyway...but who knows?)

But then yesterday, I read in my local Shelbyville paper (we are about 25 miles south of Murfreesboro) that a body has been found near here in Wartrace.

http://www.t-g.com/story/1434391.html

Today, they say they believe that it is a woman's body. There was no i.d. found with the body. The rain had washed away any footprints or car tire tracks that might have been made.

Wartrace is "out in the sticks." It is largely a place to hunt and fish. Evidently a fisherman found the lady by the smell.

I immediately thought of Marcie when I read this story. Her daughter lives in Shelbyville, and her husband is a dentist here. Marcie's aged husband is the only suspect I have heard mentioned. I "heard" from a reliable source that law enforcement has their man, whoever he is, and they are just waiting to get the right evidence. I don't know if that means they are waiting on a body or not.

It sounds like this body they found was not fully decomposed, so it is unlikely that it is Marcie Smith. I suppose the only way it could be would be if someone kept it refrigerated until now. I know that is a horrible thought, but murder is not pretty business.

Just thought I would post these new developments for those who have been following this story. I heard there was a short blip on one of the news stations a couple of nights ago, but I missed it, and so far, I have not tracked down what they said. Someone please post if you heard it.

[starling]

Thanks so much Sherlocke for the local update.

If that is not Marcie's body (closure & RIP whoever she may be)...I still feel as this article below states, this case will be handled like the Perry March case.
The perp who thinks he's so smart will have his day in court..even w/out a body.
http://www.newschannel5.com/Global/story.asp?s=8144736

JMO of course

[Sherlocke]

Glad to be of service, Sterling. I agree with you that, like the March case, this one could be prosecuted without a body. The video of the bicycling man is very strong evidence, the likes of which they did not have in the March case.

I am utterly mystified by this whole case. I do not think that anything about it has been "normal."

There have been very few details released to the public. I have never seen a good timeline of her actions prior to disappearing, which would be of great help in figuring out just where she disappeared from. That was a busy pre-Christmas day in Murfreesboro, with tons of people out shopping, eating, and such. Someone had to have seen her.

I have also never understood why Law Enforcement apparently did not conduct a massive search of the area. Every other community comes together with both civilian and police searchers to totally canvas an area. Again, the weather was such that it would have been possible to do an early search.

To me, the cell phone is a big piece of the puzzle, but I do not know what it means. If that had never been found, it would surely have changed some theories.

I travel the roads all the time where I believe she was last seen (it would be nice to have a better idea of which roads those are). It is a good distance, especially for an old man in heavy traffic, to ride a bicycle back home. I think I mapped it one time, and it was about 8 miles from Wal-Mart to his home. Traffic is insane in Murfreesboro, especially during the Christmas rush. I think it would be hard for a man his age to ride far without risking being struck by a driver of a vehicle. In M'boro, there are not good curbs for riding at all. Being a college town, there are young, crazy drivers. This is the part that has made me wonder about the husband's committing the crime. I know there are some back roads, but you have to cross some really busy roads, and I think that the back roads would make the distance even longer.

As I said, L.E. apparently feels they know who the guy is. I just cannot, for the life of me, figure out what they are waiting on. Unlike Perry March, this guy is much older, and there will not be a lot of time left in his life to prosecute him. If they feel like they have a case, why not go for it?

[starling]

Did the DH OWN A CAR? What kind?
He could of rode the bike to HIS CAR parked father away (out of Walmart camera range)then driven home IMO. Maybe that is why no one saw this perp on a bike that day?
On the timeline. Yes I agree with you.
IMO she could of been "missing" longer than the timeline the DH establishes. When was the absolute last time a person other than the DH spoke with Marcie or a person other than DH saw Marcie?



JMO

[Sherlocke]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by starling
Did the DH OWN A CAR? What kind?[/*] [/*]

I do not know if the husband had a car of his own or not. As I said, so few details have been released to the public. The number of newspaper and t.v. station reports on this story can practically be counted on one hand, which I think is an utter travesty. For the public to help, people need to know a few details, so they can search their memories to see if they remember something important.

He could of rode the bike to HIS CAR parked father away (out of Walmart camera range)then driven home IMO. Maybe that is why no one saw this perp on a bike that day?[/*]

I have to think that whoever rode that bike away had no clue they were going to be spotted on any security cameras. I think that is why her SUV was parked so far away from the WalMart entrance, and kind of between some moving trucks, if I remember correctly. I think the perp thought he was safe putting it there, and that no one would ever know it was HE who put it there. Remember, I think he was trying to make it seem like she drove it there and parked it to shop, and then went missing while she was shopping. One of the few details they let out was that he said she said she was going shopping. I think the video pretty well makes it evident that she never made it to Walmart, so if she went missing while shopping, she had to have been intercepted at some other place.

That being said, I don't see why the husband would have parked the SUV so far away from his own home. There are plenty of closer places where he could have dropped the vehicle and then easily ridden home on a bike. There are several strip malls, grocery stores, big drug stores, etc. within about 1 mile of his house. So why would he not just drop the SUV at one of those parking lots and bike home? He either was afraid of being seen in a smaller parking lot (and possibly recognized) or was afraid of being picked up on surveillance cameras. Or the other alternative is that whoever dropped the vehicle did not think about being seen at all and was merely trying to hide the vehicle where it would not be noticed for a couple of days. This particular WalMart is a pretty big super store, so the parking lot is large. One car out of hundreds likely goes unnoticed for a good long time.

Somehow, I don't think that whoever did this was smart enough to know about what particular cameras they have at Wal-Mart and how far out is far enough to be out of range. Most people are aware that they even have cameras in the parking lot on polls sometimes to watch what is going on outside. I just have a sneaking suspicion that this person never thought about cameras --there or on the Applebee's, the liquor store, etc. that are in the same lot.

The first thing that came to my mind when I heard the story was that maybe it was someone who lived in the nearby apartments. There are several huge apt. complexes almost right across the street, in the direction that the perp rode off in. Or, I thought it might be one of the nearly homeless people who live in a crappy motel right next to the Cracker Barrel, where she might have had breakfast that morning. (I heard something about that, but again, without a timeline, it is impossible to know.) This crappy motel is very near to the road where you turn to go down to Wal-Mart, and it is conceivable that someone could navigate on a bike that far in traffic. But then, how and why would her cellphone be found way to the southwest from there?

A note about the cellphone--where it was found. It was supposedly found in a ditch near a church on a back road that is much-used if one does not want to take the congested major roads somewhere. It is the "back way" to Shelbyville, for example, where her daughter lived. Or, you can turn and go north, to the other side of Murfreesboro, again without having to get on the interstate or other major roads. They were doing construction on I-24 during that time, and getting 3 miles down the interstate, from exit 81 to exit 78 could sometimes take you 45 minutes, with the Christmas traffic. But this road where the cellphone was found is a highly traveled road, and not that far from his house, as the crow flies.

On the timeline. Yes I agree with you.
IMO she could of been "missing" longer than the timeline the DH establishes. When was the absolute last time a person other than the DH spoke with Marcie or a person other than DH saw Marcie?[/*]

THAT is the question of the hour. Again, if the family would just release a time-line, it would help a lot of people out. I have not seen any of the family discuss that publicly. Some have speculated that he (the husband) did her harm and removed her to some property they own over in West Tennessee, I think. Then, they think he came home, tossed her cellphone out before going home to get the bike and taking the SUV to WalMart. Only the close family and friends of Mrs. Smith can answer that one.

I still say that it is just highly weird that there has been so little discussion in the media of this case. It has been the most hushed affair I have seen in a long time. I think it really stinks that a human being can go missing, and there be so little apparent concern. Don't get me wrong. I know the family has done their level best to find their loved one. But it seems they have had to rely on private sources to make the machine move. They have run out of places to look, because she could indeed literally be anywhere.



JMO

[Sherlocke]

Late news this evening in Shelbyville reports that the body found in Wartrace belonged to the missing homeless woman who disappeared from Murfreesboro. Cause of death looks to be blunt trauma.

The story is here:

http://www.t-g.com/story/1436283.html

Hopefully, this will draw some attention back to the fact that Marcelene Smith is still missing....

[Carol25]

Would be interested to know about fingerprints on the steering wheel, cell phone and bike. If they are all wiped clean, that's a pretty good indication as well. The dirt on the wheels could give some clues where the car has been as well.

Did anyone talk to her that morning? She could have died and been disposed of a day or so earlier.

The husband will slip up. Someone should give him a few drinks.

[Sherlocke]

As far as I know, very few details of these kinds of things have been released to the public. As for the drinks thing, he has been out in a few places that served alcohol and gotten himself into trouble "stalking" other women. They got spooked by him and the notion that he had and expressed to them that his wife was never coming home. He bought her a burial plot and a headstone, apparently. Strange actions from a man, when so very little is known about what happened to her.

As for whether or not anyone talked to her that morning....no one has said much about that. As far as I know, the family has never posted a timeline that might help in tracking where she was right before she went missing. I think this would help the public immensely, to know where and when she might have disappeared from.

[darcie]

Thinking of you Marcelene.............
:(

[Sherlocke]

Well, it appears the police have their man in the case of the missing Murfreesboro woman mentioned above. Unfortunately, Mrs. Smith's disappearance is still unsolved. Here is the link to the story. http://www.t-g.com/story/1437909.html

I wish there could be a break in this case....

[HarlettOhara]

They have actually had this guy in jail since about 6/10. They had obtained a search warrant and found some of her garments in his home.

I have photos of the location where she was found..

http://helpfindthemissing.org/forum/showthread.php?t=5563


I wonder if he may have come across Marsilene and abducted her also, seeing that she also shopped on that side of Murfreesboro.

[Sherlocke]

I wondered about a connection between the two cases when I first heard about the 2nd woman going missing. There does not seem to be a link, but who knows? It is likely that the 2nd perp picked Mrs. Mattis up for the purpose of prostitution. Poor thing, it seems like she was desperate for money.

In Marcelene's case, it speaks volumes to me that the police thought it unnecessary to conduct an area-wide search. It seems that they KNOW WHODUNIT, but they cannot yet prove it. I think they are waiting for the perp to mess up and say something incriminating.

About the only link I can see between these two women would be that they are both older. I did not know her, but I thought the pictures of Marcie Smith looked younger than her age.

[EGirl]

Bumping for Marcie :rose:

[darcie]

Thinking of you Marcelene.

[Sherlocke]

The Shelbyville Times-Gazette had a little piece in the paper at the end of last week that brought out the fact that the man I mentioned in the above post supposedly raped another woman, but she was released and went to the hospital. (Of course, he allegedly killed the woman he picked up in Murfreesboro.) This leads to some wondering on my part. Could this guy be a serial rapist? If so, is there any chance that he had contact with Marcelene Smith? Of course, whoever parked her SUV in the Wal-Mart parking lot had something to do with all of this, and I don't see a resemblence between the perp in the Mattis case and the man who rode away on the bicycle. Any thoughts, anyone?

[Sherlocke]

There is news in the case of this lady. On the one year anniversary of her disappearance, her husband supposedly received a letter in the mail. Remember, he lives in Middle Tennessee, in Murfreesboro. The letter was mailed from West Tennessee, from Memphis!

The letter had a map, which supposedly shows where Marcie's body is!

The words on the map and on the envelope it was mailed to her husband in have letters and words cut out from periodicals, newspapers, etc. The letter has been sent off to the Crime Lab to see if DNA can be extracted from it--from being licked and sealed or possibly licking the postage stamp. They can also test for fingerprints, they say.

Here is a link to one story:
http://www.newschannel5.com/global/story.asp?s=9549686 (http://www.newschannel5.com/global
/story.asp?s=9549686)

News outlets in Nashville are giving very few details of the search for her body. Some say that some very small bone fragments have been found, and others say no bones have been found at all.

The place where the map shows the body is supposedly located is a place where the husband and wife used to go together to fish. It was about an hour north of Covington, TN, where they lived many years ago.

The weather has been dreadful here, so I am sure the search has been difficult. We have had rain and thunderstorms, which I am sure are not helping searchers in rugged terrain.

Those of us who got interested in this story about this time last year will certainly be following it with interest to see what comes of this newest lead. Let the discussion begin!

[Sherlocke]

Well, sorry to report that the search for Marcie Smith has been canceled again. Read all about it Here:

http://www.dnj.com/article/20081221/NEWS01/812210328

Looks like the only way they may solve this case is if they can pull DNA from the letter sent to her husband. If it is his "spit" on the seal of the letter, he's gonna be in trouble!

[starling]

Well, sorry to report that the search for Marcie Smith has been canceled again. Read all about it Here:

http://www.dnj.com/article/20081221/NEWS01/812210328

Looks like the only way they may solve this case is if they can pull DNA from the letter sent to her husband. If it is his "spit" on the seal of the letter, he's gonna be in trouble!


I was going to post that when I read your previous post!

That is HIM riding that bike, I mean who else could it be unless he has a tubby twin that cares about that car!
99.9% of the time when the spouse is the perp they make SURE they get the missing one's car,checkbook,debit/credit cards that are 'left behind' right up front.
It's a given IMO. Some husbands say the wife left her jewelry(even wedding band in one case)purse,phone,car before she "walked" off forever.
Not to mention children,grandchildren,friends....plans,appts.
Oh give me a friggin' break with this note.
I hope he has haunting nightmares.
He can't get indicted soon enough for me!


JMO

[Heidi J.]

I was going to post that when I read your previous post!

That is HIM riding that bike, I mean who else could it be unless he has a tubby twin that cares about that car!
99.9% of the time when the spouse is the perp they make SURE they get the missing one's car,checkbook,debit/credit cards that are 'left behind' right up front.
It's a given IMO. Some husbands say the wife left her jewelry(even wedding band in one case)purse,phone,car before she "walked" off forever.
Not to mention children,grandchildren,friends....plans,appts.
Oh give me a friggin' break with this note.
I hope he has haunting nightmares.
He can't get indicted soon enough for me!


JMO

:thumbup: Yep.. what you said!

[StillEG]

:thumbup: Yep.. what you said!


Thank y'all for the new info. I think the hubby will get away with this one. When the case first broke and he did his tearful interview, I think I threw up in my mouth a bit. :cursing:

Praying for justice for Marcie.

[darcie]

We haven't forgotten about you Marcelene.
:sad:

[starling]

We haven't forgotten about you Marcelene.
:sad:

very sad :sad:

[cheddar]

Husband Of Missing Woman Arrested

http://www.wsmv.com/news/18848863/detail.html#-

MURFREESBORO, Tenn. -- The husband of a woman who suddenly went missing in December 2007 was arrested Tuesday in connection with her disappearance.

Palmer Smith was charged on Tuesday with fabricating evidence and filing a false police report. His wife, Marcie Smith, 69, has been missing for over a year...


Hopefully justice for Marcie is on its way!

[cheddar]

More here:
http://www.dnj.com/article/20090304/NEWS06/903040341

Charges filed in Marcie Smith disappearance
Husband arrested for false report in missing woman's case

[Leanne Weich]

Thanks so much for the updates Cheddar.

Even though he hasn't been arrested for her murder, at least this is a move in the right direction. It's taken long enough and I am now hoping that he'll slip up and talk to someone in the jail who'll tell LE what happened. I think we all know what happened just as LE likely does but it appears they don't have any or enough evidence. It's unfathomable to me that any man would kill his wife but a 72 year old is even harder to understand, imo.

[Erin26GA]

Finally!!! I hope this guy tells what he has done to LE. I can't imagine dying at the hands of my husband! The person who is suppose to love and protect you. Poor Marcie...I can't even imagine what she was thinking or went thru that day.


RIP :rose:

[doradoll]

I am so relieved that Marci has not been forgotten by the MPD. I have seen the video of the bicycle get away and it looks to be him to me. I wonder what their children are thinking.

[starling]

I agree with you all,finally!!! A good day!
I think he (with a sound mind)planned & carried out his plan... with an evil unbelievable twist he let his own daughters & g/daughter suffer ALL this time. Can you imagine?
Maybe he will give up where he put poor Marci so they can have some closure.
The only thing he forgot was that Walmart might(duh) have parking lot cameras.
Him riding oh-so-casual away on that bike is down right sickening is all I can say...


JMO
:rose: for the daughters & g/daughter

[starling]

He bonded out. Hope they are watching him.
http://www.wsmv.com/news/18848863/detail.html#-
Glover Smith bonded out of jail on Tuesday and is scheduled to appear in court later this month.

[starling]

here are the old Walmart images~
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://wgns.files.wordpress.com/2007/12/image-thumb29.png%3Fw%3D226%26h%3D319&imgrefurl=http://wgns.wordpress.com/2007/12/07/murfreesboro-woman-missing/&usg=__wYG03IWdR4a43C41qIZiC_0fxlI=&h=319&w=226&sz=165&hl=en&start=19&um=1&tbnid=MfHgxQVns01mHM:&tbnh=118&tbnw=84&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dmarsilene%2Bsmith%2Bbike%2Bvideo%26um %3D1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN

[darcie]

One step closer...one step closer.



http://www.tennessean.com/article/20090304/NEWS03/903040396/1009/NEWS02
*snipped*
These charges do pertain to evidence recovered and statements made in the days after Marcie Smith was first reported missing," Evans said. "It would be inappropriate for me to go into any further details about evidence related to this case."
*snipped*

[cheddar]

News Channel 5 in Nashville talked with Palmer Smith's attorney, John Norton, who said, "it's equally plausible that Mrs. Smith went shopping with Natalie Holloway in Aruba. I can't prove that any more than these SOBs can prove he killed her."

You can see the video here: http://www.newschannel5.com/global/video/popup/pop_playerLaunch.asp?clipId1=3512154&at1=News&vt1=v&h1=Attorney+Says+Police+Have+No+Proof+In+Smith+Arr est&d1=117634&redirUrl=www.newschannel5.com&activePane=info&LaunchPageAdTag=homepage&clipFormat=flv

He's a real charmer, isn't he? He does have quite a reputation around here as an excellent defense lawyer. I've heard quite a few local people say he's the attorney you want if you are guilty.

I'm hoping LE has lots of evidence they haven't made public and I hope they get a ton more. Like all of you, I want to see justice for Marcie.

[shelkobe]

News Channel 5 in Nashville talked with Palmer Smith's attorney, John Norton, who said, "it's equally plausible that Mrs. Smith went shopping with Natalie Holloway in Aruba. I can't prove that any more than these SOBs can prove he killed her."

You can see the video here: http://www.newschannel5.com/global/video/popup/pop_playerLaunch.asp?clipId1=3512154&at1=News&vt1=v&h1=Attorney+Says+Police+Have+No+Proof+In+Smith+Arr est&d1=117634&redirUrl=www.newschannel5.com&activePane=info&LaunchPageAdTag=homepage&clipFormat=flv

He's a real charmer, isn't he? He does have quite a reputation around here as an excellent defense lawyer. I've heard quite a few local people say he's the attorney you want if you are guilty.

I'm hoping LE has lots of evidence they haven't made public and I hope they get a ton more. Like all of you, I want to see justice for Marcie.
Holy nonsense! I had to watch the video to see if your quote was correct -- I couldn't believe the attorney said that, but yessiree, he did. Heard it with my own ears! What a clown.

I'll never forget those images of the man on the bike riding away from Marcilene's SUV. An old man... just like Palmer Smith.

[starling]

<snip>
You can see the video here: http://www.newschannel5.com/global/video/popup/pop_playerLaunch.asp?clipId1=3512154&at1=News&vt1=v&h1=Attorney+Says+Police+Have+No+Proof+In+Smith+Arr est&d1=117634&redirUrl=www.newschannel5.com&activePane=info&LaunchPageAdTag=homepage&clipFormat=flv

He's a real charmer, isn't he? He does have quite a reputation around here as an excellent defense lawyer. I've heard quite a few local people say he's the attorney you want if you are guilty.
I'm hoping LE has lots of evidence they haven't made public and I hope they get a ton more. Like all of you, I want to see justice for Marcie.

First of all, he appears uneducated,MAJOR no class as a lawyer to CUSS. For him to bring up Natalie as if she is shopping w Marci in Aruba is stupid ,not to mention horrible & disrespectful. Obviously Natalie was murdered & her body will prob never be found so it seems this slime is saying nanner-nanner you'll never find Marci. Ah, news for Mr small mean santa ...many have been convicted w/out a body!
LE surely enhanced the front window shot of the person driving her car into the parking lot & the tubby old man riding away.It's the evil Mr Smith alone that is responsible IMO.

JMO

[kelloggirl]

Holy nonsense! I had to watch the video to see if your quote was correct -- I couldn't believe the attorney said that, but yessiree, he did. Heard it with my own ears! What a clown.

I'll never forget those images of the man on the bike riding away from Marcilene's SUV. An old man... just like Palmer Smith.

Yup, the video of him on the bicycle is pretty distinctive. I just read about this case for the first time seeing the husband arrested. Even knowing that he's most likely responsible, I watched the video of his interview with the news station (I think it's on the first page of this thread, if anyone is interested), and I gotta say, he deserves an Oscar for his performance as bereaved husband. He really really did sound and look upset, and I can usually spot fake grief from a mile away. It wasn't until more towards the end of the video that I spotted some cracks that he was having trouble sustaining the same level of upset. He does seem pretty weak and harmless - but from the incidents reported and rumors on the comments site and on this board, that was certainly not the case.

[starling]

I too was so glad to come here and see the news of his arrest as I have been following the disappearance of Marcelene for a year and praying for her recovery.

I have to disagree about the interview....it was seeing that that firmly solidified my opinion that he was guilty! Men with his supposed very strong personality type do not just become weak and harmless. It was obviously a 'show'.

IMO

ITA! AND If you really look at all of his photos w his girls,he is looking DOWN and the girls look straight out into the public/camera. He even looks down in his orig interview which IMO is a big red flag.

This says Palmer Smith is going to speak today @ 6pm concerning his arrest:
http://www.newschannel5.com/Global/story.asp?S=9951561
Palmer Smith answered many tough questions about his wife's mysterious case. The exclusive interview airs tonight at 6 p.m. on NewsChannel 5.


JMO

[starling]

The exclusive interview/video with Palmer is up now at this link:
http://www.newschannel5.com/Global/story.asp?S=9957265

At the end,he walks the reporter to the door. His body type is that of the mystery man, pot belly,no neck. Quinky-dink,huh? Also interesting that he gave the news people an unflattering photo of Marci in rollers. This guy makes my skin crawl.

JMO

[TBIBeg]

Bumping for Marcie.

:rose:

[cheddar]

There was a brief mention of Palmer Smith in the Nashville news this week.

Link (http://www.newschannel5.com/Global/story.asp?S=10235502)

The husband of a Murfreesboro woman missing for more than a year is expected to be in court Thursday.

Palmer Smith, 73, will face a judge for a plea hearing.

Palmer Smith will face charges of fabricating evidence and filing a false report in connection with the disappearance of his wife Marcie in December 2007....

If a plea agreement is not reached, the judge will reportedly set a trial date.


I've been watching for an update to that but so far I've found nothing. Hopefully we'll hear more news soon.

[darcie]

There was a brief mention of Palmer Smith in the Nashville news this week.

Link (http://www.newschannel5.com/Global/story.asp?S=10235502)

The husband of a Murfreesboro woman missing for more than a year is expected to be in court Thursday.

Palmer Smith, 73, will face a judge for a plea hearing.

Palmer Smith will face charges of fabricating evidence and filing a false report in connection with the disappearance of his wife Marcie in December 2007....

If a plea agreement is not reached, the judge will reportedly set a trial date.


I've been watching for an update to that but so far I've found nothing. Hopefully we'll hear more news soon.


Thanks so much for the update cheddar! I'll keep checking in. Hoping Marcelene receives justice.

[shelkobe]

The exclusive interview/video with Palmer is up now at this link:
http://www.newschannel5.com/Global/story.asp?S=9957265

At the end,he walks the reporter to the door. His body type is that of the mystery man, pot belly,no neck. Quinky-dink,huh? Also interesting that he gave the news people an unflattering photo of Marci in rollers. This guy makes my skin crawl.

JMO
Had to see that for myself. Can't believe he'd give reporters a picture of her in rollers. How thoughtful :rolleyes:

[doradoll]

If that's not him on that bicycle, I'll eat my hat....or whatever that old saying is.

[cheddar]

News Channel 5 in Nashville claims they have "obtained stunning new evidence that could link Smith to his wife's disappearance."

http://www.newschannel5.com/Global/story.asp?S=10379080

It includes the never before heard 911 call Smith made the day his wife disappeared.

Other items found in the prosecution's evidence file will surprise you, including a second never before seen surveillance videotape.

Nick Beres' exclusive report air Monday on News-Channel 5 at 6 p.m.

Let's hope this is good news. I can't wait to see the "new" surveillance tape. Guess I'll have to wait until 6 p.m. though.

[starling]

Thanks Cheddar
Can't wait
This guy is a sick,evil CREEP to lie to his daughters & granddaughter. Horrible.


JMO

[darcie]

This case has bothered me from the get-go. I hope they nail this man. It seems kinda obvious LE thinks he is the responsible party, they just don't have enough facts. I wonder where a man of his age could place Marcelene's body that she has never been found. I wonder if he is from the area, and knows of a an old well, cave...something? He had to have taken her someplace, then killed her? I mean someplace that she would willingly go, but yet would be a perfect place to push her into a hole, or water...or something. He just doesn't appear to me that he could pick her up and toss her around very easily.

Thinking of you Marcelene......I wish your body would be found so it could complete this story, and that you may finally get to rest in peace.

[juliekan]

http://www.newschannel5.com/Global/story.asp?S=10379080

New video footage shown at this link, but is very far away, and I can't see anything.

[KittyMom]

I've been waiting on an arrest in this case. I just wish this guy would tell his children the truth.

[BevAnn]

well I'm confused. from what I could gather, this new video has the same "evidence" that the first one showed? the SUV coming into WM parking lot and a bike leaving. and it wasn't nearly as clear...so why is the prosecution all excited?? :confused:

Did you see his smirk when he said "That is NOT me on that bicycle."?

Made me wanna wipe that smile off his face. :sneaky:

[starling]

Palmer's lawyer is rude & no class like Palmer..
two peas in a big pot belly pod !




JMO

[doradoll]

still waiting for justice for Marci



certainly, her family knows that is him riding that bike...does anyone know if they are supporting him?

[darcie]

You haven't been forgotten Marcelene!

[doradoll]

No, Marci is not forgotten. I so wish we could remove the "husband arrested" from the thread title. It makes it appear that there is some resolution to this, when in fact there isn't. That is HIM on the video riding the bicycle!!!!! I wish there was some way to match his clothing or her bicycle to the video. I thought at the time the granddaughter said that they had taken a green ladies bike from their garage to see if it was the same?

[juliekan]

still waiting for justice for Marci



certainly, her family knows that is him riding that bike...does anyone know if they are supporting him?

isn't that strange? they've got to look at that and go "OH no!"

[doctor_J]

The original videos and articles have expired. Can someone tell me if they found the bike?? Seems it would be harder to hide the bike forever than the body.

[KittyMom]

It is so sad that this poor lady hasn't been found yet.

Not forgotten, :rose:

[cheddar]

Judge keeps all charges against missing wife's husband

http://www.murfreesboropost.com/2009/08/24/judge-keeps-all-charges-against-missing-wifes-husband

Jurors are expected to hear evidence about a husband accused of fabricating evidence in his wife’s disappearance after a judge decided not to dismiss the charge Monday.

Husband Glover Palmer Smith, 73, was indicted in March on one count of fabricating evidence and four counts of making false reports to Murfreesboro Police in the disappearance of his wife, Marsilene “Marcie” Smith, 69, whom he reported missing Dec. 6, 2007.

<snip>

Palmer is set for trial Oct. 13 on the fabricating evidence and four counts of making false reports to Murfreesboro Police.


He still hasn't been charged with Marcie's disappearance, but maybe this will start the ball rolling. I'm crossing my fingers.

[doradoll]

I am always anxious for new news on this case.

Thanks to CW or whoever removed the misleading "husband arrested" off the title.

I so hope that Marcie gets some justice soon.

[doradoll]

bumping for Marci

anyone from Murfreesboro out there that knows what is going on?

[cheddar]

I'm not from Murfreesboro, doradoll, but I'm from the general area and I'm sort of familiar with some of the people involved in this story. I've never met Marcie but my heart aches for her. I pray for justice for her.

pretrial motion hearing today

Judge to determine whether evidence can be heard at trial

The husband of a missing Murfreesboro woman will be in court today in connection with her disappearance almost two years ago.

Palmer Smith, 73, reported his wife, Marcie, missing in December 2007 and now faces charges of fabricating evidence and four counts of filing a false police report.

A Rutherford County Circuit Court judge will decide today if certain evidence and testimony will be allowed at the trial, scheduled for sometime in 2010.

Among that evidence is an allusion to a prior domestic violence assault charge brought against Palmer Smith in Tipton County in West Tennessee a number of years before Marcie Smith's disappearance.
<snipped>

http://www.tennessean.com/article/D4/20090928/NEWS01/909280317/Missing+wife+case+in+court

Mr. Smith still hasn't been charged in Marcie's disappearance. Maybe this trial will help with that. My fingers are crossed.

[darcie]

Thanks so much for keeping us updated cheddar.......

Hoping this begins the wheels turning for Marcelene. May questions get answered that will help find Marcelene.

I can't imagine what the family feels. Are they standing behind their father? Are they even looking for Marcelene? Such a sad sad deal.

[cheddar]

Trial date, DNA evidence debated in disappearance case

Palmer Smith defense attorney Libbi Snider told Judge Don Ash she’ll file a motion to reschedule the Oct. 13 trial to a later date based on DNA evidence collected by the District Attorney General’s office from the defendant’s blood and from a Lincoln Navigator.

http://www.dnj.com/article/20090928/NEWS01/90928014/Trial+date++DNA+evidence+debated+in+disappearance+ case

Whoa! DNA evidence? I haven't seen that mentioned anywhere before. Maybe this will indeed start the ball rolling for justice for Marcie.