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Myst

12-10-2007, 03:21 AM

I think it's very telling!

Also think that those investigating are listening to what psychics are saying, because of where they are searching and what they are searching for. They seem to be very focused.

Not sure where I read it, but it's being considered that Stacy's body is in the canal because that canal has long been rumored to be a 'dumping grounds' for bodies for dirty cops. That Stacy's mom is thought to be in the canal where there is a church and a bridge nearby. And that Stacy's body is near where her mom's body is.

DP has made several weird statements to the media which have included something to the effect that Stacy is 'where she wants to be', that she will 'go deeper down' just like her mom. He's also used the word 'surface'. All that is (seemingly) being referred to by DP as running off and disappearing into the world. Yet.. one can take his statements in other ways as well.

It's as if DP is making statements such as these to be misleading, yet they are cryptic, as if he is giving out clues. I can understand why he would want to be misleading. But cannot understand why he would intentionally give out misleading clues that could end being understood and leading to where Stacy is. Unless, of course, he wants to be caught, and this is all part of his sick plan. To watch LE run all over the place before they actually catch on to his little game.

Makes me wonder if DP doesn't have something else planned for if that should happen. Such as running, taking the kids and running, doing something to himself, or to all the kids and himself...just as LE closes in on him.

We know DP is up to something. LE has got to know this if others and I do! Just the fact alone that DP 'disappears' over his back fence and gets into his vehicle parked down that road, ought to be enough for LE to be on their toes and watching him, tracking what he does and where he goes.

Surely they are?

But it does explain why they are spending so much time and $, let alone risking lives of the divers and others, to search that canal. How I wish they could just drain the dang thing and be done with it all. Wonder how many other bodies they will find, other cases they will be able to solve in the process of searching for Stacy in that canal...sigh.

Mamie

12-11-2007, 01:20 AM

I could have sworn I posted on this Sandra *. thread over the weekend! :confused:

Mayasmimi

12-11-2007, 01:46 AM

Sandra is not a psychic. She has said so herself. Her information regarding the Peterson west case was amazing. All documented prior to release to us (the public). Some claim she changed information to suit the investigation. I know for a fact.......she sends her work to several people long before it is released.

Do any of you remember her interview on the Rense program. I sat glued to my chair for the entire two hours.

Remember NurseRatched (Great memories....Deli? You around?)? Dear friend to Sandra. Nurse's board is long gone....or I'm too dense to find it. I know how much Nurse (Sage) believed in Sandra's work. Not that what I think matters, but Nurse (as I don't really personally know Sandra, other than a few emails way back) made me very comfortable with what I read. I lean towards belief. Don't get the same feeling about what Brian has to say....maybe it's just me.

Hey....Sage.....if you're around??????? How about a PM? XOXO....hoping.

KINSEY

12-11-2007, 10:29 AM

Sandra uses EVP sessions and is not a psychic as others have stated here. Did you know that our military & intelligence actually uses EVP?

Sandras work on the Laci Peterson case was phenominal and there may be some great clues in what she has received so far. Hope LE at least takes a look at her current sessions about Stacy.

lrobert

12-11-2007, 12:23 PM

I have more faith in her abilities and am very interested in what more she can come up with.

Hopefully, right to where Stacy is!

wendylou

12-11-2007, 02:08 PM

Wow, I was just thinking about Sandra Belanger yesterday and was wondering if she was working this case.

I still remember a quote from "the folks" (sorry, folks) that went, "Technology makes strange bedfellows on God's business."

PinkyPoo

12-11-2007, 02:25 PM

I had to look up what EPV was. I gotta say....sounds like a big bunch of bs to me.
I think people may get a "feeling" of sorts about those close to them being in danger or something like that....but this recording voices is junk in my opinon.

wendylou

12-11-2007, 03:03 PM

PinkyPoo

12-11-2007, 03:16 PM

yes I listened to them and thats why I think it's bunk. I can make the same recordings right here on my computer. There is no information in them that has not been in the media already. a little research on a case and some time recording and we can all do this stuff.
just my opinon of course....:)

wendylou

12-11-2007, 03:37 PM

Originally posted by PinkyPoo
yes I listened to them and thats why I think it's bunk. I can make the same recordings right here on my computer. There is no information in them that has not been in the media already. a little research on a case and some time recording and we can all do this stuff.
just my opinon of course....:) [/*]

...except for the fact that the Laci Peterson info was released to the media 3 months before her body washed up. None of that info was in the press for Sandra to use to make false claims.

JMO, of course.

lrobert

12-11-2007, 10:12 PM

Sandra added a new transcript today:

From session

20071210_193735-004

December 10, 2007

He mixed cement anchors on his floor. Garage.*20071.wav
Pushed me into the river Daddy.*20071210_19.wav

Mamie

12-12-2007, 12:33 AM

Originally posted by Mayasmimi

(snipped)
Don't get the same feeling about what Brian has to say....maybe it's just me.

Hey....Sage.....if you're around??????? How about a PM? XOXO....hoping. [/*]

I agree with you about staying glued to your chair! I also agree that I don't have that confident feeling with Brian that I have about reading Sandra's things. I remember about the "folks" talking about Citizen Craig was going to be involved in making the arrest on Scott-----I don't know why they dubbed him Citizen Craig but they did, and it was Craig Grogan who went to southern California to bring Scott back.

Mayasmimi

12-13-2007, 02:17 AM

Originally posted by angel w/o wings

You are correct Sandra does not consider herself a psychic. She uses a scientific technique I believe called EVP to do her readings. Also, I read on her website she no longer calls the folks, "the folks" because they do not like it.

In any case, I have never believed in any of this stuff before.
But after observing Sandra's work from the beginning of Laci's case I am more open to it. Sandra never sought money or recognition for her work. Sandra was way ahead of the curve on that case. Sandra had detailed information way before any of the "psychics" like Noreen. Sandra publicly released the information weeks and months before events unfolded which would prove true to her readings. BTW I agree Sandra never changed her information to suit the investigation. Also, I visited Nurse's board too. That was a long time ago although it doesn't seem like it.

I don't know if this Brian guy is legit or not. But if he is changing his information - he probably isn't legit. Is he perhaps an opportunist? [/*]

Opportunist? Honestly, yes. My opinion.

Sandra is amazing.

BTW....have you talked to Nurse lately?

JeniferHart

12-13-2007, 10:32 PM

Originally posted by PinkyPoo
I had to look up what EPV was. I gotta say....sounds like a big bunch of bs to me.
I think people may get a "feeling" of sorts about those close to them being in danger or something like that....but this recording voices is junk in my opinon. [/*]

I hope you never suffer such a devstating, heartbreaking loss of someone you love dearly. Sadly, when that happens you find yourself reaching out for some kimd of communication, peace of mind and general comfort and peace if you do not take the suicidal route instead.

To understand what Sandra does, you must comprehend how the process works. The best way to explain it, is to watch the movie "White Noise", the only exception is I have never dealt with anything evil in my amatuer attempts at EVP. The movie is more or less a hollywood version to entice viewers, not to say it doesn't exsist, Ive just never encountered it. It is very REAL, indeed.

To get a better understanding of what EVP is, you can view these AAEVP videos on youtube. AAEVP is a group, dedicated to educating the public on exactly what EVP is. They are well worth watching.

AAEVP ON YOUTUBE (http://youtube.com/AAEVP)

There are two parts.

Noahs ARK

12-14-2007, 08:36 PM

Kelly3820

12-15-2007, 11:48 AM

IMO Sandra and the "folks" were right on in Laci's case. The way they describe Stacy's death is how one time Kathleen said Drew hit her face on the dinning room table.

PinkyPoo

12-15-2007, 04:45 PM

Originally posted by JeniferHart

I hope you never suffer such a devstating, heartbreaking loss of someone you love dearly. Sadly, when that happens you find yourself reaching out for some kimd of communication, peace of mind and general comfort and peace if you do not take the suicidal route instead.

To understand what Sandra does, you must comprehend how the process works. The best way to explain it, is to watch the movie "White Noise", the only exception is I have never dealt with anything evil in my amatuer attempts at EVP. The movie is more or less a hollywood version to entice viewers, not to say it doesn't exsist, Ive just never encountered it. It is very REAL, indeed.

To get a better understanding of what EVP is, you can view these AAEVP videos on youtube. AAEVP is a group, dedicated to educating the public on exactly what EVP is. They are well worth watching.

AAEVP ON YOUTUBE (http://youtube.com/AAEVP)

There are two parts. [/*]

Yeah, Thanks......I'll wait for something a bit less Hollywood and bit more scientific. As for whatever losses I have delt with in my life....you have not a clue, so don't even try to pretend to know. Everyone has a story.
I have a right to my opinions on this stuff. I even get to post it here. I did not make any personal comments directed toward anyone here so you do not have any reason to personally attract me.

No worries....I will not be responding to any of your posts.:no:

velvetbrown

12-15-2007, 10:31 PM

JeniferHart

12-16-2007, 02:02 AM

Originally posted by PinkyPoo
yes I listened to them and thats why I think it's bunk. I can make the same recordings right here on my computer. There is no information in them that has not been in the media already. a little research on a case and some time recording and we can all do this stuff.
just my opinon of course....:) [/*]

theres nothing wrong with giving an educated opinion, even if it is your own , however this statement can be construed in different ways and to a layperson as yourself, it can seem like this is deliberately "made up" which is not the truth. No worries posting to me. *poof* I shall respond to to a post that I feel is misleading and not truthful, with links to back up my claim, all I ask is others who doubt ,to do the same.

Danette44

12-16-2007, 11:44 AM

Originally posted by PinkyPoo

Yeah, Thanks......I'll wait for something a bit less Hollywood and bit more scientific. As for whatever losses I have delt with in my life....you have not a clue, so don't even try to pretend to know. Everyone has a story.
I have a right to my opinions on this stuff. I even get to post it here. I did not make any personal comments directed toward anyone here so you do not have any reason to personally attract me.

No worries....I will not be responding to any of your posts.:no: [/*]

I wonder about her also and her readings - I can say I lived in Alameda for over 30yrs and I do recall the cases she is talking about, and I do recall them talking about her giving info out on where to look. I know the 2 men were from there and the Dr. I thought was from San Jose and they did find her car and her body in it. It's like Brain's predictions, everyone pharses him and if you were to look on his very first RV Dream, it was posted the 5th of Nov, well heck all that info was out before then.

I followed him on the Trenton Duckett case and it finally came down to where Joshua had to tell him to stop doing the RV's, and it was noted he wanted money - how true that is I don't know.
moo

JeniferHart

12-16-2007, 12:09 PM

Originally posted by Danette44

I wonder about her also and her readings - I can say I lived in Alameda for over 30yrs and I do recall the cases she is talking about, and I do recall them talking about her giving info out on where to look. I know the 2 men were from there and the Dr. I thought was from San Jose and they did find her car and her body in it. It's like Brain's predictions, everyone pharses him and if you were to look on his very first RV Dream, it was posted the 5th of Nov, well heck all that info was out before then.

I followed him on the Trenton Duckett case and it finally came down to where Joshua had to tell him to stop doing the RV's, and it was noted he wanted money - how true that is I don't know.
moo [/*]

I live in Alabama too. Ive known her for 6 plus years and in the brgining I had serious doubts and tried to disclaim everything she posted. I could not. I have since met her as she traveled through Alabama this past summer and she is a genuine person, alot of fun amd takes this anthroplogy stuff extremely seriously. Ive been blessed to watch someof her lectures she gives on the sunject, if you can catch a lecture, it is well worth attending. I do plan to go visit her for a few weeks this summer, quite an interesting person.

As far as Briansdream. I believed him at first until he asked me for 500.00 to keep sending me his emails in advance., for get him. The he asked me for 850.00 to have a liftime membership including his gambl;ing and casino precicitions, I said No THANKS and left briansdream.Sandra has never ONCE profitted off any case with law enforcement, she could, but chooses to offer her services for FREE. TO ANY family member or law enforcement agency who will contact her.

Danette44

12-16-2007, 05:06 PM

Lyndawitha"Y

12-16-2007, 06:09 PM

I just went to Sandra's site..but for some reason I can't insert the link..anyway if you go to her site and link to Bolingbrook Case, the last update is as of friday..Interesting?
www.heliumraven.com

LMS
:seeya:

Sherlocksmom

12-16-2007, 07:26 PM

Originally posted by MyDearWatson
Today-

Drew moves his money.*20071208_212302-002.wav

From session

20071213_161750-001

December 13, 2007

Part 1

He's makin' calls.*20071213_161750-001.wav
Search her car.*20071213_161750-00.mp3
Sandra I'm in the water dead. Help us we need your help.* .mp3

From Session

20071213_161750-002

December 13, 2007

Part 2

Look, she's under the water.*20071213_161750.wav
Tell 'em, let's search the water (for you).*20071213_161.wav
Drew's a nut!*20071213_161750-002.mp3 [/*]

Love the last one......Drew's a nut!!! :lol:

Danette44

12-16-2007, 10:48 PM

Originally posted by Sherlocksmom

Love the last one......Drew's a nut!!! :lol: [/*]

Amazing even the voices thinks he's nuts LOL I would like to know more about this line..........Sandra I'm in the water dead. Help us we need your help. Who is "US", thats very interesting.

KINSEY

12-16-2007, 11:23 PM

Didn't DP give son Steve a big check? Wondering how Steve is explaining that to LE?

Mayasmimi

12-17-2007, 02:07 AM

Originally posted by JeniferHart

I live in Alabama too. Ive known her for 6 plus years and in the brgining I had serious doubts and tried to disclaim everything she posted. I could not. I have since met her as she traveled through Alabama this past summer and she is a genuine person, alot of fun amd takes this anthroplogy stuff extremely seriously. Ive been blessed to watch someof her lectures she gives on the sunject, if you can catch a lecture, it is well worth attending. I do plan to go visit her for a few weeks this summer, quite an interesting person.

As far as Briansdream. I believed him at first until he asked me for 500.00 to keep sending me his emails in advance., for get him. The he asked me for 850.00 to have a liftime membership including his gambl;ing and casino precicitions, I said No THANKS and left briansdream.Sandra has never ONCE profitted off any case with law enforcement, she could, but chooses to offer her services for FREE. TO ANY family member or law enforcement agency who will contact her. [/*]

Hey Jen. So nice to see you.:seeya:

I read Brian's posts early on in this case. I wondered about the different levels of membership.....not what he calls it....but, membership is how I see it. Not to mention the rumors that he back dates dreams to agree with actual findings.

As for Sandra.....I was here when Sandra actually posted with us. I remember it all. So sweet and completely down to earth. Anyone recall sitting on the edge of their seat while we listened to her on the Rense program? Sandra never made public lots of information she had pertaining to the Laci Peterson case. I don't know for a fact, but I believe she gave personal information she learned to Sharon Rocha.

I honestly believe Sandra is ONLY about doing the right thing. She does not accept money, nor does she welcome media attention.

As I understand it, this process is not easy for Sandra.....draining, both physically and emotionally. Not to mention very time consuming.

Stacy and Kathleen, and others, are THE reasons Sandra is involved.

K...I feel better.

Night Jen.

Noahs ARK

12-17-2007, 02:44 AM

I thought the information she gave out while they were looking for Laci Peterson was fascinating.

I look forward to reading the info she posts about Stacy.

JeniferHart

12-17-2007, 12:29 PM

Originally posted by Mayasmimi

Hey Jen. So nice to see you.:seeya:

I read Brian's posts early on in this case. I wondered about the different levels of membership.....not what he calls it....but, membership is how I see it. Not to mention the rumors that he back dates dreams to agree with actual findings.

As for Sandra.....I was here when Sandra actually posted with us. I remember it all. So sweet and completely down to earth. Anyone recall sitting on the edge of their seat while we listened to her on the Rense program? Sandra never made public lots of information she had pertaining to the Laci Peterson case. I don't know for a fact, but I believe she gave personal information she learned to Sharon Rocha.

I honestly believe Sandra is ONLY about doing the right thing. She does not accept money, nor does she welcome media attention.

As I understand it, this process is not easy for Sandra.....draining, both physically and emotionally. Not to mention very time consuming.

Stacy and Kathleen, and others, are THE reasons Sandra is involved.

K...I feel better.

Night Jen. [/*]

Morning!

Oh yeah, that RENSE program was alot of fun here on CTV, that night. This was the only website she has eve posted too besides the one we had which we delete afterwards, and she no longer even reads message boards. She concentrates all her time and energy on doing this work, which is time consuming and VERY draining physically and emotionally. She has to view and review material she has probably gone over 10000 times but right now the location of Stacy is a priority so she can only release certain aspects of what she has already. Light a candle, say a prayer they will find Stacy soon and give this family some comfort in at least knowing where she is. Im sure the unknown, is tormenting the family and the children and will for years to come, as this unfolds:rose:

rasta-girl

12-17-2007, 05:36 PM

I remember EVP, Sandra and Nurse from the Laci Peterson trial. She was dead-on (excuse the pun) with her work with the 'folks' and she was able to post information months before it came to light.
Nurse PM'd me a bit back and re-directed me to Sandra's new site. I'm glad she is working on this case and I hope LE takes what she says in a more serious manner than Modesto LE.
As far as doubters of EVP...I'm not going to bash anyone for believing or not believing. I am a pretty 'normal' person and when I heard Laci's voice on an EVP file, there was NO DOUBT in my mind that EVP was real. I had such an emotional reaction to it that I can't listen to them anymore. Basically, what I am saying is 'to each, his own.' I would welcome Sandra to help me with a loved one ANYDAY (God forbid I should ever need her!) IMHO!

Lyndawitha"Y

12-17-2007, 10:23 PM

Does anyone know if Sandra *. has tuned into Kathleen and what happened to her?

It would be so intersting to get Sandra's point of view connecting these two cases.??..I would just love it...especially if communications between Stacy and Kathleen are evident.

Alot of the statement on Sandra's site use the word "WE" or "US" is this referring to Sandra's Spiritual Guide or maybe//could be both Stacy and Kathleen??

Jus' askin?:confused:

LMS:seeya:

Sherlocksmom

12-17-2007, 10:55 PM

JeniferHart

12-18-2007, 11:37 AM

On the firt page of thr BB cases, she mentions 4 women coming through to "help", she names Kathleen, Stacy and Lisa. My wild guess the 4th could possibly be Chrisitie. Sandra will work all 4 cases on these women as she states on her site however Stacy's case is taking priority at the moment. Not only do the vicitms themselves come through to help, but so do the "voices", which she refers to as non corporial beings meaning they have never lived on earth, more like angels, that help out.

JeniferHart

12-18-2007, 11:40 AM

Originally posted by rasta-girl
I remember EVP, Sandra and Nurse from the Laci Peterson trial. She was dead-on (excuse the pun) with her work with the 'folks' and she was able to post information months before it came to light.
Nurse PM'd me a bit back and re-directed me to Sandra's new site. I'm glad she is working on this case and I hope LE takes what she says in a more serious manner than Modesto LE.
As far as doubters of EVP...I'm not going to bash anyone for believing or not believing. I am a pretty 'normal' person and when I heard Laci's voice on an EVP file, there was NO DOUBT in my mind that EVP was real. I had such an emotional reaction to it that I can't listen to them anymore. Basically, what I am saying is 'to each, his own.' I would welcome Sandra to help me with a loved one ANYDAY (God forbid I should ever need her!) IMHO! [/*]

:seeya: Glad to see you again and glad she finally has her website up! its still a work in progress but check back often. Happy Holidays, friend:wreath:

BeanB

12-18-2007, 07:16 PM

Originally posted by wendylou

Did you listen to any of the wav files from Sandra's readings? The Laci Peterson ones make my hair stand on end. Her methods might seem strange, but the EVP voices were chillingly accurate in the Laci case. [/*]

What did they say that was chillingly accurate? I remember listening to her stuff, it was cryptic and ambiguous, in my memory, but my memory could be faulty.

Sherlocksmom

12-18-2007, 10:35 PM

I know not everyone believes in this stuff but does anyone know if LE has gotten any information from her regarding this case? Heck it's worth looking into. :shrug:

KINSEY

12-19-2007, 12:43 AM

Originally posted by BeanB

What did they say that was chillingly accurate? I remember listening to her stuff, it was cryptic and ambiguous, in my memory, but my memory could be faulty. [/*]

Go to Sandras home page:
http://www.heliumraven.com/home

Go to the bottom of her home page & click on resolved cases. You can read an emormous amount of material from Laci's case. I was amazed the things I had forgotten, but she was right on with so many things.

Mayasmimi

12-19-2007, 01:39 AM

Originally posted by KINSEY

Go to Sandras home page:
http://www.heliumraven.com/home

Go to the bottom of her home page & click on resolved cases. You can read an emormous amount of material from Laci's case. I was amazed the things I had forgotten, but she was right on with so many things. [/*]

I agree. Actually, it seems more amazing re-reading the transcripts. I, too, had forgotten so many things.

BeanB

12-19-2007, 03:44 PM

Originally posted by TexasPeppers

IIRC, they reported Laci's body to be in the Bay by the fifth (or was it fourth?) Albany bulb months before her body and the baby's were discovered. After tracing currents from where the bodies were found it was determined that Laci was dumped exactly where Sandra said she had been.

I remember the LP case and Sandra very well. Nurse gave me her teddy bear to sleep with one night because some of the predictions were chilling, to say the least. [/*]

See, now I recall the Albany Bulb stuff (it is an outcrop of land) and that she may have been dumped there, but more likely was dumped near Point Isabella near the shipping canal-- also as I recall there was EVP talk about her being tied to a fifth buoy -- don't think that ever came to be -- in any case, I do not recall specific accuracies that later made me say "wow -- she was SO accurate" -- call me a disbeliever that she knew many details in advance.

It was creepy stuff, though. Could be something to it, I don't know, but I don't think she had it all figured out with lots of detail on point.

Lrobert1

12-19-2007, 09:48 PM

Originally posted by Lyndawitha"Y
Does anyone know if Sandra *. has tuned into Kathleen and what happened to her?

It would be so intersting to get Sandra's point of view connecting these two cases.??..I would just love it...especially if communications between Stacy and Kathleen are evident.

Alot of the statement on Sandra's site use the word "WE" or "US" is this referring to Sandra's Spiritual Guide or maybe//could be both Stacy and Kathleen??

Jus' askin?:confused:

LMS:seeya: [/*]

I believe Sandra will be working on Kathleen and Lisa's case in the near future.

Also, Sandra has figured out a location so I hope that someone will take her seriously in this matter.

Sandra is a very sweet person as I've had the honor of corresponding with her a few times via email. I thanked her for her dedication in this case.

She truly is fascinating and hope that she is the key that finds Stacy.

drip~drop1

12-19-2007, 11:06 PM

Originally posted by Danette44

Amazing even the voices thinks he's nuts LOL I would like to know more about this line..........Sandra I'm in the water dead. Help us we need your help. Who is "US", thats very interesting. [/*]

I'm thinking Lisa Stebic. She and Stacy may be close together.
imo

Kelly3820

12-20-2007, 01:47 AM

Originally posted by rasta-girl
I remember EVP, Sandra and Nurse from the Laci Peterson trial. She was dead-on (excuse the pun) with her work with the 'folks' and she was able to post information months before it came to light.
Nurse PM'd me a bit back and re-directed me to Sandra's new site. I'm glad she is working on this case and I hope LE takes what she says in a more serious manner than Modesto LE.
As far as doubters of EVP...I'm not going to bash anyone for believing or not believing. I am a pretty 'normal' person and when I heard Laci's voice on an EVP file, there was NO DOUBT in my mind that EVP was real. I had such an emotional reaction to it that I can't listen to them anymore. Basically, what I am saying is 'to each, his own.' I would welcome Sandra to help me with a loved one ANYDAY (God forbid I should ever need her!) IMHO! [/*]

Sandra is soooooo goood. I remember when I stumbled on to Sandra one night. I was reading her stuff about Laci and when things were reveled by LE Sandra wrote about it weeks if not months before. I am not bashing anyone either. But the night I stumbled I can not say I was a true believer but when Sandra was DEAD ON with Laci's case I will say I am now.

Kelly3820

12-20-2007, 01:50 AM

Originally posted by drip~drop1

I'm thinking Lisa Stebic. She and Stacy may be close together.
imo [/*]

Could be Lisa. I was also thinking I wonder if Kathleen is with Stacy. I am sure Kathleen has not rested in peace. Maybe the "we need your help" is finding Stacy so justice is also served to Kathleen. I am sure finding Stacy will help Kathleen's case for justice. I can't wait for Sandra to discover more info.

Mayasmimi

12-20-2007, 02:31 AM

Originally posted by drip~drop1

I'm thinking Lisa Stebic. She and Stacy may be close together.
imo [/*]

Hey Rainey!!!!!:seeya:

As I understand there are four women. Stacy, Lisa, Kathleen and Christie. This isn't easy for Sandra, as I'm sure you recall. I've listened to the files. I don't hear much. Sandra spends hours upon hours upon hours listening to her files.

Back to Drew....serial killer? Maybe? Wondering. IMO.

We'll soon see.

Mayasmimi

12-20-2007, 02:33 AM

Originally posted by Kelly3820

Could be Lisa. I was also thinking I wonder if Kathleen is with Stacy. I am sure Kathleen has not rested in peace. Maybe the "we need your help" is finding Stacy so justice is also served to Kathleen. I am sure finding Stacy will help Kathleen's case for justice. I can't wait for Sandra to discover more info. [/*]

As has been explained to me, Sandra is hearing from several women. Stacy and Kathleen being two.

Mzeez

01-02-2008, 06:55 PM

New info posted today, more food for thought!
http://www.heliumraven.com/casefile

Hope I posted the link correctly.

Nova

01-02-2008, 08:49 PM

Originally posted by Mzeez
New info posted today, more food for thought!
http://www.heliumraven.com/casefile

Hope I posted the link correctly. [/*]

I really HOPE LE checks into the Dresden/Locks ... it couldn't hurt. I think it is possible IF Stacy was put into the canal at Lockport, due to the currents, and movement from the barges, etc. She could be there. DP needs to be taken down. :cuss:
Here's a link to the schematic of the locks along the canal, the schematic is about 2/3 down the page.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illinois_Waterway
Nova

JeniferHart

01-03-2008, 10:32 AM

Originally posted by BeanB

See, now I recall the Albany Bulb stuff (it is an outcrop of land) and that she may have been dumped there, but more likely was dumped near Point Isabella near the shipping canal-- also as I recall there was EVP talk about her being tied to a fifth buoy -- don't think that ever came to be -- in any case, I do not recall specific accuracies that later made me say "wow -- she was SO accurate" -- call me a disbeliever that she knew many details in advance.

It was creepy stuff, though. Could be something to it, I don't know, but I don't think she had it all figured out with lots of detail on point. [/*]

If LE had listened and looked around the buoy, when the information was first given out that January 03, they very well may have found her but as usual, no one listened and over a period of time. I suppose as her body deterorated she broke loose, from her tethering and surfaced herself.

To each their own as far as believing. there is an old saying that goes something like "to those who believe no proof is necessary, to those who do not, no amount of proof, is ever enough"

DID EVP SOLVE THE LACI PETERSON CASE (http://www.rense.com/general33/evpcase.htm)
EVP UPDATE IN THE PETERSON CASE (http://www.rense.com/general37/llc.htm)
NEW EVP WAV FILES IN THE PETERSON CASE (http://www.rense.com/general37/newevp.htm)
VERIFICATION OF HITS IN THE PETERSON CASE (http://www.rense.com/general37/verif.htm)
PSYCHIC'S UPDATE IN THE PETERSON CASE (http://www.rense.com/general34/petersn.htm)

henry

01-03-2008, 11:01 AM

JH: thank you SO much for the rense link - heard it discussed before on this board & it peaked my curiosity . . . now i've got my reading material for this afternoon. thanks, again.

JeniferHart

01-03-2008, 11:03 AM

yvw!!

henry

01-04-2008, 07:59 AM

there's a new update on her website regarding "bells"

wendylou

01-04-2008, 04:26 PM

Can you post here what the new info is? I can't access her site right now.

Thanks!!!

a9arose

01-04-2008, 05:37 PM

Originally posted by wendylou
Can you post here what the new info is? I can't access her site right now.

Thanks!!! [/*]

January 3, 2008

9:16am

Yesterday I posted that a local person who lives in the area of the Dresden Locks and Dam had told me that there were bells that were sounded when the barges passed through the locks. I have been told from a number of sources that this is incorrect. This is certainly an honest mistake. Unless you actually worked tending the locks you would probably not be able to tell from a boat or while walking in the immediate area where exactly the sound of the bells was coming from.

Initially I was told that lock tenders at the Dresden Locks said that there were no bells. I was then told that the lock tenders said that there were bells but that they were not associated with the operation of the locks and were possible associated with the trains that run nearby.

Most importantly, I have been told by the one source that I trust above all others, the EVP Voices, that in fact these bells come from a source associated with the railroad. Here are those audio files correcting this bit of information. Let us be clear about this. The information about the bells being associated with the operation of the locks came from a human source. My EVP source had only stated that "bells were heard daily." The EVP Voices wanted to set the record straight.

From session

20080103_151248-001

January 3, 2008

3:12pm Part 1

We heard your person had the wrong information.*.mp3
There are bells and they're from trains.*2008.wav
There's some bells at the tracks lots of trains.*20080103_.wav

One of the really interesting things about this session was that I wasn't notified by a human source that there was a discrepancy in the "bells" information until 6:31pm East Coast time. This EVP session was done at 3:12pm East Coast time, over three and one quarter hours prior to the notification by a human source. Regardless, the fact remains that bells are heard at the Dresden Locks and Dam. They are simply from trains as opposed to occurring as a result of the operation of the locks.

Thank you for your time, your attention and for allowing the EVP Voices to set the record straight.

Sandra Belanger

January 4, 2008

9:57am

http://www.heliumraven.com/casefile

Mamie

01-04-2008, 10:45 PM

Originally posted by Nova

I really HOPE LE checks into the Dresden/Locks ... it couldn't hurt. I think it is possible IF Stacy was put into the canal at Lockport, due to the currents, and movement from the barges, etc. She could be there. DP needs to be taken down. :cuss:
Here's a link to the schematic of the locks along the canal, the schematic is about 2/3 down the page.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illinois_Waterway
Nova [/*]

And if they don't how about that Miller guy with his boat and all that hi-tech sonar equipment. He was looking for her in the beginning wasn't he or was that someone else? I mean people with equipment have looked in places that they had less information on and now we have this information from Sandra so if they are going to be looking anyhow----why not look where the info Sandra has points to?

JeniferHart

01-05-2008, 09:23 AM

Texas Eqqasearch has been contacted and they dont plan to come back and search again for Stacy until the spring.

Mamie

01-05-2008, 03:01 PM

Originally posted by JeniferHart
Texas Eqqasearch has been contacted and they dont plan to come back and search again for Stacy until the spring. [/*]

But in the spring she may not be there. With the waters becoming warmer, she could be taken somewhere else. JMO

Thanks for the info Jenifer:seeya:

Lyndawitha"Y

01-05-2008, 09:46 PM

The reason I ask about this...As I truly believe Stac is in the Desdan Lock/Dam area..There is still the claim of Bells heard..where she is...and it's trains. Any locals there should know that sound, what is referred to as "Bells"..As I am sure no further barges are going through the canal system as of this date..There must be some sound LIKE this heard in that vicinity?? This is important because IF she is there..with spring thaw and renewed activity in the lock/canal system..Stacy will no doubt be moved along!

Just askin? guys..as I am sure she is letting us know where she is as of today..not when she was put into waterway..or where...We need to recover her "Corporale State"..!

Hugs to all
LMS:seeya:

wendylou

01-11-2008, 01:20 PM

If there's a railroad crossing, there would be a bell that would go off as a train approaches. I grew up in a town that had a little train station, and a bell would ring before each train. It was automated.

wendylou

01-11-2008, 01:22 PM

Originally posted by a9arose

snipped for space

http://www.heliumraven.com/casefile [/*]

Just wanted to give a very belated thank-you for posting this info! For some reason I can't get her site to open so I appreciate the update.

Anymore news from Sandra?

henry

01-11-2008, 08:07 PM

just checked (link works fine for me) and the january 4th post above is the latest . . . i keep on checking her site every morning so if there's something, i'll post it here.

Lrobert1

01-12-2008, 01:01 PM

http://www2.mvr.usace.army.mil/NIC2/Reports/iceilli2.htm

Go down to 272 and there are usually daily pictures posted of the locks at Dresden. Click on upper and lower.

foofoo3

01-13-2008, 12:08 AM

I did a search for railroads within distance of the Dresden Locks and there are several RR related businesses within the area which would mean to me there would be lots of trains and bells.

Couviemom

01-13-2008, 08:03 PM

Okay I hope you all don't think I'm silly; but I have to put this out there: I sent an email to Sandra because I have had this feeling or dream or thought or whatever you want to call it going on for 2 months now and it has been consuming me day and night. Here goes.
Near the Dresden Locks somewhere, or somewhere along the canal is a set of flat cars of a train and on them are empty CONTAINERs (you know the ones that are put on trains and then wherever the destination is a semi truck pics them up) So these images/feelings I have is that her body is in one of these empty CONTAINERS sitting somewhere along the canal. The weird thing is that I have no idea what this Dresden Lock is or if there are trains along the canal. I've never been there as I live in West Coast of Canada. But I don't know what to do with these thoughts, so thought I would post it and get it off my chest. Did Drew ever have business or know of an associate who would be in some kind of shipping industry where they would use these conatainers. Does Drew have access to this kind of stuff or associates who may have. Okay I feel better now and just so you know I am not a phsycic cant even spell it. but over the last 30 years have had what I and others have called A1 intuition., Thanks

Couviemom

01-13-2008, 08:12 PM

Also want to add, that when they were doing the search where they drained the canal there was a picture of a train with Containers on it. And those tracks were almost next to the canal. I have been told by another poster that sometimes those containers are not looked in for months. Maybe the flat car that the container that I'm guessing she might be in has been moved down toward the Dresden Lock. Remember this is just something I am putting out there as where they should check for Stacy. This is all assumptions on my part and in know way facts just trying to figure out where she might be.
:confused:

IMOO

JeniferHart

01-14-2008, 02:05 AM

Dont even start that Randi garbage on this thread. Money is the least of Sandra drive for the TRUTH! NEVER ONCE has she ever charged one cent for her help. Detectives seek out her help on a case and if you think Randi is o on the up and up googgle Victor Zammit and randi, Randi has ignored the counter offer for one million to back up his claims which he chooses to ignore. if you believe fine but if you dont fine too, just dont start that garbage and insult someone you do not know as I do.

Couviemom

01-14-2008, 03:06 AM

Just to let you all know that I got a reply back from Sandra, she said anything is possible, but her sources are telling her Sandra IS in the water. And I will go with that and hope they find her soon.
My prayers are for Stacy and her children and family :rose:

henry

01-14-2008, 05:57 AM

Originally posted by Linda777NJ
If you believe this evp is real and this woman is so wonderful...there is a cool million dollars waiting for her to collect. Is she up to the challenge?

http://www.randi.org/joom/content/view/38/31/

Didn't think so:rolleyes: [/*]

i guess you feel that $ is an enticement . . . unfortunately, a trillion $ would also sit there unused and unchallenged.

imo . . . anyone would be selling their soul to the devil if they entered this "challenge" , and after reading your link, it's a no win situation . . . so why bother . . . nothing "cool" (to use your wording) about it.

JeniferHart

01-14-2008, 10:28 AM

Victor Zammit is an attorney, who also happens to believe in the afterlife. HERE IS VICTORS 1 MILLION CHALLENGE TO SKEPTICS (http://www.victorzammit.com/skeptics/index.html) No takers so far, esp from Randi, himself. This road, travels both ways. JMOO.

ETA:
LAWYER REBUTS PROFESSORS ATTACK ON EVP (http://www.victorzammit.com/articleskeptics/evpattack.html)

JeniferHart

01-14-2008, 10:45 AM

Originally posted by JeniferHart
Victor Zammit is an attorney, who also happens to believe in the afterlife. HERE IS VICTORS 1 MILLION CHALLENGE TO SKEPTICS (http://www.victorzammit.com/skeptics/index.html) No takers so far, esp from Randi, himself. This road, travels both ways. JMOO.

ETA:
LAWYER REBUTS PROFESSORS ATTACK ON EVP (http://www.victorzammit.com/articleskeptics/evpattack.html) [/*]

Victor Zammit on youtube, speaking on his 1 million dollar challenge. All skeptics are welcome to apply.

VICTORS 1 MILLION CHALLENGE VIDEO (http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=wG3bGqFr9uc)

JeniferHart

01-14-2008, 11:44 AM

VICTOR ZAMMIT ON EVP and ITC COMMUNICATIONS (http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=DCTvpoiqbKA)

JeniferHart

01-14-2008, 11:45 AM

WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU DIE? (http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=daRdTFqZluY&feature=related)

PinkyPoo

01-14-2008, 11:09 PM

The bottom line is that Sandra has not found Stacy.
So her "skills" don't mean much.

:no:

JeniferHart

01-14-2008, 11:29 PM

Last time I checked, Stacy had not been found by anyone, as of yet.

The information has been given to the proper authorities. It is up to them, to investigate and follow what they have been given. Time will tell, exactly what was accurate and what wasn't and keep in mind what little you read is nothing compared to vast amount, that has been given to the authorities in this case.

JeniferHart

01-14-2008, 11:38 PM

Hope is what keeps many going forward. I remain hopeful and prayerful she will be found soon but my instincts tell me it will be in the spring, once everything has thawed. I HOPE it is much sooner.

Hiya Snowbird:seeya: gee...we are practically neighbors. Im just south of you by about 60 miles. a hop, skip and a jump:biggrin:

edited for spelling

wendylou

01-15-2008, 11:56 AM

Originally posted by PinkyPoo
The bottom line is that Sandra has not found Stacy.
So her "skills" don't mean much.

:no: [/*]

It would be pretty hard for Sandra to be the one to literally find Stacy, since Sandra lives in CA. She has pinpointed an area where she thinks Stacy is, so it is up to the local authorities to search there.

Since nobody has found her yet, you can't really blame that on the ones who are trying.

Lrobert1

01-16-2008, 02:59 PM

Originally posted by PinkyPoo
The bottom line is that Sandra has not found Stacy.
So her "skills" don't mean much.

:no: [/*]

Hmm, seems that it is up to proper authorities to search the area. Seems that there are no searches being done so it stands to reason why Stacy has not been found.

And, out of curiosity, what you say if the authorities did search Dresden and Stacy was found there? Oh, I know, you'd still think Sandra was wrong right?

Take a leap of faith because one never knows what will happen.

Couviemom

01-17-2008, 03:30 AM

Because of my FAITH I know they will find Stacy. I wish my PATIENCE would be stronger .
PRAYERS FOR STACY :rose:

PRAYERS OF ENDURANCE FOR ALL THE SEARCHERS AND LE.
:rose:

MystryPhobia

01-17-2008, 02:52 PM

I am probably going to ask a stupid question but am still curious so I will ask anyway.

What is a locks? Is it like a dam or something like that? If she is in some kind of container.. would it be able to pass through the locks?

Sorry.. just trying to understand what the locks actually do.

henry

01-17-2008, 06:53 PM

instead of me describing it . . . here's a wikopedia link that would probably be more helpful

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illinois_Waterway

Snow_Dream

01-18-2008, 09:28 AM

Originally posted by PinkyPoo
The bottom line is that Sandra has not found Stacy.
So her "skills" don't mean much.

:no: [/*]

What? Is she supposed to dive into the river and pull the barrel containing Stacy's body up by herself?

MystryPhobia

01-18-2008, 11:48 AM

Originally posted by henry
instead of me describing it . . . here's a wikopedia link that would probably be more helpful

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illinois_Waterway [/*]

Oh wow! I did not know any of that but that is very interesting. Thanks for the link henry.

So.. if I am understanding correctly.. if she is there then she could make it through there and eventually travel down further to the next Lock and the next and the next.. POTENTIALLY. Or she could get hung up along the way and never be found?

JeniferHart

01-18-2008, 10:46 PM

Originally posted by Sugarnspice

Oh sheesh if she does get through that would be bad. Have they searched that area at all? I looked at the mad and it was pretty close to where those pings came from isn't it. [/*]

I dont think anyone has searched this area. From what Ive heard, the weather is too bad for any further searches right now. It may be when they do maintenance on the locks, that she may be found, if Sandra's predictions are right. Time will tell.

Where can I find information on the pings? I haven't seen anything where that information is and I would like to read up on it. Thanks in advance.

henry

01-22-2008, 08:13 PM

i posted this on the weekend thread . . . just thought for those that don't read backwards/in reverse gear, there's a new post from sb dated 1-20-08

http://www.heliumraven.com/casefile

MystryPhobia

01-23-2008, 02:21 PM

Originally posted by Linda777NJ

still waiting on that link [/*]

wait no more...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stargate_Project

Google some of the key personnel names.

The project was officially shut down but many of them believe that it is still operating in deep black.

KINSEY

01-23-2008, 04:10 PM

Originally posted by MystryPhobia

wait no more...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stargate_Project

Google some of the key personnel names.

The project was officially shut down but many of them believe that it is still operating in deep black. [/*]

Yes, that was it RV, I couldn't remember, it was back during the Laci Peterson case & my computer crashed since then & I lost all reference I had to that case.

Lrobert1

01-23-2008, 08:34 PM

henry

01-24-2008, 05:47 AM

the link i've been giving brings you directly to sp's case file

just noticed that her home page has been changed . . . excellent reading/background

http://www.heliumraven.com/home

:seeya: thank you sb

MystryPhobia

01-24-2008, 01:49 PM

Originally posted by KINSEY

Yes, that was it RV, I couldn't remember, it was back during the Laci Peterson case & my computer crashed since then & I lost all reference I had to that case. [/*]

Yeah.. understand that. They just kept asking. Seemed like they were trying to say that you weren't being truthful for some reason.

:rolleyes:

wendylou

01-24-2008, 03:23 PM

Originally posted by henry
the link i've been giving brings you directly to sp's case file

just noticed that her home page has been changed . . . excellent reading/background

http://www.heliumraven.com/home

:seeya: thank you sb [/*]

I can't open Sandra's page from work. Can you please fill me on on her latest post?

Thanks a million!!

:seeya:

henry

01-24-2008, 06:25 PM

since you quoted my "homepage" quote . . . it gives a very clear background of SP's life/life experiences, her education, personal experience(s) on various cases, a clearer history of techniques, etc., . . . something that is hard to summarize . . . don't want to get in trouble copying/pasting sections so it's best if you wait & read it for yourself since my words just don't do it justice!

hope this helps . . .

wendylou

01-25-2008, 12:36 PM

Originally posted by henry
since you quoted my "homepage" quote . . . it gives a very clear background of SP's life/life experiences, her education, personal experience(s) on various cases, a clearer history of techniques, etc., . . . something that is hard to summarize . . . don't want to get in trouble copying/pasting sections so it's best if you wait & read it for yourself since my words just don't do it justice!

hope this helps . . . [/*]

I've read all that stuff.

I was talking about her latest update on the SP case. What was the update about?

Thanks.

henry

01-25-2008, 03:11 PM

Originally posted by wendylou

I've read all that stuff.

I was talking about her latest update on the SP case. What was the update about?

Thanks. [/*]

here's the link or "door"

http://www.heliumraven.com/casefile

as you location says . . . open the door so i can stroll right in . . .

wendylou

01-25-2008, 03:27 PM

Originally posted by henry

here's the link or "door"

http://www.heliumraven.com/casefile

as you location says . . . open the door so i can stroll right in . . . [/*]

Dude, a few posts up I stated that I can't open the link from work, so that is why I'm asking for someone to please post the update here.

newbiee

01-25-2008, 03:32 PM

Originally posted by wendylou

Dude, a few posts up I stated that I can't open the link from work, so that is why I'm asking for someone to please post the update here. [/*]

Here you go:
Good Afternoon,

Yesterday evening, January 19, 2008, I began to get a number of emails from people saying that they had heard that a woman's body had been found in Lake Michigan.

http://www.nbc5.com/news/15095783/detail.html?dl=headlineclick

A few people even went so far as to say that they thought that it was Stacy Peterson's body even though the body was not identified in the press. My immediate gut feeling was that it wasn't Stacy's body. For one thing the story seemed to imply that the body was pretty fresh, they referred to the body as an "unresponsive female". This would not be the way that a nearly three month old body would be described by EMS or others involved in the recovery.

In any case I decided to check with the source just to make sure. This is what they said.

20080120_001643-001

January 20, 2008

12:16 am

She is not the woman you were looking for.*20080.wav
Peterson, we told you it is not her.*20080120_0.wav
I also did a number of dowsing exercises to double check and was told that Stacy is still at Dresden and that she will be found in April. This would be within the 4-6 month time frame. They went on to say that it will likely be late April. This was one of the point by point similarities brought up by Laci Peterson when she compared her case with Stacy's case. This would also be in line with the keyword "Rob Piest". Rob Piest was also found in April in addition to being found at Dresden.

Here is a link naming the woman whose body was found in Lake Michigan yesterday afternoon.

http://cbs2chicago.com/local/body.in.lake.2.633859.html

I am currently reviewing all of the EVP Maker sessions that I did between October 28, 2007 and the second week of January. It is slow going due to the fact that I am currently experiencing some computer problems. This is also a tedious and exhausting task. It will take me another week to two weeks to get the process completed. At that time I will post all of the information that I have found on Stacy Peterson's case as well as what I have found on Kathleen Savio's case. I want to upload it all at one time. In the mean time I plan to upload some of the other cases that I have gathered data on. The unresolved cases will be posted in the unresolved section. The resolved cases such as Jessica Lundsford, will be posted with the resolved cases.

I am still hoping that the law enforcement officials in charge of the Stacy Peterson case will attempt to search the Dresden area as soon as weather permits. The source makes it clear that the time line of the body recovery can still be changed. Thanks for your time and attention, for your kind emails and your ongoing interest in the research.

Sandra Belanger

January 20, 2008

2:22pm

wendylou

01-25-2008, 03:38 PM

Originally posted by newbiee

Here you go:
Good Afternoon,
snipped

[/*]

Thank you so much!!!

:seeya:

Leanne Weich

01-27-2008, 03:09 PM

I wish that someone who knows Cassandra and how accurate Sandra was on Laci's case, could talk to her and Cassandra could then try to get divers or whatever is needed to check out Dresden.

henry

02-20-2008, 05:45 AM

yahoo . . . i can now "legally" bump up this . . . new update on her website . . . dated 2-18-08 . . . thank you sandra . . . our prayers are with you.

http://www.heliumraven.com/casefile

KENDU

02-20-2008, 05:54 AM

What does the Bible say about psychic's

henry

02-20-2008, 07:41 AM

Originally posted by KENDU
What does the Bible say about psychic's [/*]

good morning . . . why don't you tell us? thanks

AmyO

02-20-2008, 12:50 PM

Originally posted by henry
yahoo . . . i can now "legally" bump up this . . . new update on her website . . . dated 2-18-08 . . . thank you sandra . . . our prayers are with you.

http://www.heliumraven.com/casefile [/*]
Interesting that Paul will bring a tip. The spirits keep referring to April. Let April bring Stacy home to rest in peace. :rose:

ETA: April meaing the month of April.....

JeniferHart

02-20-2008, 09:17 PM

Originally posted by henry
yahoo . . . i can now "legally" bump up this . . . new update on her website . . . dated 2-18-08 . . . thank you sandra . . . our prayers are with you.

http://www.heliumraven.com/casefile [/*]

Thank you henry!

I wonder if the Barry mentioned in the article Sandra provided the link too, is THE "Barry" mentioned on the EVP files?

9 arrested in drug raid (http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/790806,CST-NWS-gang13.article)

LE must have some connection with this Anthony Rock and Stacy's disappearance as well. I will be glad when we know the connection. Patience is indeed a present.

"Angels will bring Paul Peterson to the agents, a tip!"

hmmmmm..... Paul sure has been very quiet and out of the limelight for a while now. Im convinved he knows more too but is loyal to Drew at this point. I believe that loyalty would change is he was to be charged with something like obstruction of justice, hampering an investigation or worse, a co conspirator in Stacy's disappearance. I bet he would start singing like a bird.

Laci was found in April too. There are so many bizarre similarities in these two cases, it is hard to believe. April isnt too far off. Time will tell.

spirit07

02-24-2008, 08:15 PM

Originally posted by watchu
http://www.briansprediction.com/MISSING/publicr/542.htm

Check this site... [/*]

Browsing here and saw your reference. Brian has been shown to be a fraud. Just enter a Google search for "briansprediction fraud", there is plenty of evidence and easy to find on this guy. It's unfortunate. Just thought I would let you know if you weren't aware of this.

Birdy

02-26-2008, 03:11 PM

Originally posted by Snow_Dream

What? Is she supposed to dive into the river and pull the barrel containing Stacy's body up by herself? [/*]I'm not a clairvoyant (spelling?) but I believe she is in that container but is in a much more private place. such as a storage rental which Drew or even Stacy at sometime before this event happened had rented to store some of Kathleens furniture/belongings Could stay there for years as long as its paid for each mo. without detection for years and years..........IMO its worth looking into. One never knows.....moo

wandering

03-01-2008, 10:41 AM

Originally posted by Birdy
I'm not a clairvoyant (spelling?) but I believe she is in that container but is in a much more private place. such as a storage rental which Drew or even Stacy at sometime before this event happened had rented to store some of Kathleens furniture/belongings Could stay there for years as long as its paid for each mo. without detection for years and years..........IMO its worth looking into. One never knows.....moo [/*]Don't you think LE would have checked that out?

no1what

04-07-2008, 03:46 PM

Sandra said she would be updating her web page for Stacy soon. I think she has some information that she doesn't want to post before it has been investigated fully.

AmyO

04-07-2008, 04:37 PM

Originally posted by no1what
Sandra said she would be updating her web page for Stacy soon. I think she has some information that she doesn't want to post before it has been investigated fully. [/*]
Wow - thanks for the update! I've been checking her site at least twice a week wanting to hear updates. It's been a long time since she's posted anything new.

henry

04-07-2008, 07:39 PM

here it is:

http://www.heliumraven.com/casefile

also interesting read is her home page when you have the time

johnielee333

04-07-2008, 07:44 PM

Originally posted by KENDU
What does the Bible say about psychic's [/*]

yeah, i'd like to know too. i dont think i believe in psychic's but i do believe in the Bible.

brodysho

04-08-2008, 08:37 AM

Deuteronomy 18:9 (KJV)
"When thou art come into the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee, thou shalt not learn to do after the abominations of those nations. (10) There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch. (11) Or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or a necromancer. (12) For all that do these things are an abomination unto the LORD: and because of these abominations the LORD thy God doth drive them out from before thee."

Just google the bible and divination. This is just one example.

no1what

04-08-2008, 10:44 AM

darcie

04-08-2008, 06:30 PM

I believe in the ability to forsee the future, and the ability to look in the past. I am definitely not saying that every person that *states* they are psychic, are. Heck the Bible is full of prophets. A prophet isn't a witch in my eyes. They don't use spells, or crystal balls, or beads, or toad eyeballs...lol.

I look at is as a gift. A gift from God, and with that in mind, any gift from God is to be used, but only in a positive manner.

For example:

I dont think God planned on people using this *gift* to tell me if my love life was going to improve, or if the man I just met was the love of my life, or what lottery numbers to choose. I don't think that he planned on people using this gift for their personal gains.

I dont know, maybe I am just as loony as the rest of them. But everyone that claims that they can see the future, can't be liars, can they?

I just know that I wish I was. I wish that God would have chosen me for such a gift. I would find every missing person, and bring them home. Let them be reunited with their family, or let them be laid to rest respectfully, as I think God would like.

Just my two cents.

:D

Couviemom

04-10-2008, 02:02 AM

Originally posted by darcie
I believe in the ability to forsee the future, and the ability to look in the past. I am definitely not saying that every person that *states* they are psychic, are. Heck the Bible is full of prophets. A prophet isn't a witch in my eyes. They don't use spells, or crystal balls, or beads, or toad eyeballs...lol.

I look at is as a gift. A gift from God, and with that in mind, any gift from God is to be used, but only in a positive manner.

For example:

I dont think God planned on people using this *gift* to tell me if my love life was going to improve, or if the man I just met was the love of my life, or what lottery numbers to choose. I don't think that he planned on people using this gift for their personal gains.

I dont know, maybe I am just as loony as the rest of them. But everyone that claims that they can see the future, can't be liars, can they?

I just know that I wish I was. I wish that God would have chosen me for such a gift. I would find every missing person, and bring them home. Let them be reunited with their family, or let them be laid to rest respectfully, as I think God would like.

Just my two cents.

:D [/*] I totally feel the same way. ITA

Couviemom

04-10-2008, 02:03 AM

Originally posted by no1what

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I find it interesting that the Bible reveals that it is possible for someone to observe the past or the future. [/*]

Very good theory and i couldn't agree with you more.

Couviemom

04-10-2008, 02:05 AM

lili

04-10-2008, 02:37 AM

Originally posted by Couviemom
I thank Sandra for trying in any way she can to help find Stacy :rose: [/*]

I hope she does, soon.

JMO

velvetbrown

04-11-2008, 03:21 AM

Hi all, Just checking in... Sandra said "April", soooo...
THRILLED they caught C Lauren, the murdering disgrace of a Marine..and .hoping to see Drewpy in handcuffs soon too!

Shell0724

04-12-2008, 03:10 AM

Originally posted by brodysho
Deuteronomy 18:9 (KJV)
"When thou art come into the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee, thou shalt not learn to do after the abominations of those nations. (10) There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch. (11) Or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or a necromancer. (12) For all that do these things are an abomination unto the LORD: and because of these abominations the LORD thy God doth drive them out from before thee."

Just google the bible and divination. This is just one example. [/*]

IMO, it's a slippery slope to use the Bible to frame one side of an argument about this topic.

When the Israelites were given the Law, they were admonished from adopting all aspects of the Canaanite /Egyptian/ Mesopatamian cultures, which consisted of demonic and magical works, which were anathema to the Hebrews. All aspects of these cultures were forbidden, but, not because of their custom to seek "familiar spirits", as much as their desire to conjure demons.

The customs of the heathen were geared towards the demonic, but, the Law in Deuteronomy doesn't address whether or not there is a spirit world that is accessible, which doesn't violate Hebrew custom and Law.

Many generations of pious Hebrews have said prayers for the dead, for thousands of years, extending their hopes and faith to reach the other side, to ask departed loved ones for guardianship and love. It's part of our human psyche to retain that silver chord of hope which reaches beyond this veil.

In I Samuel 28, After King Saul put away all the sorcerers and diviners, he suffered a nervous breakdown and became paranoid, going to a medium who conjured up the spirit of Samuel, who prophecied Saul's doom. It can be taken as his punishment for transgressing the Law for conjuring a familliar spirit, but, meanwhile we know Samuel wasn't a demon, and continued to prophecy, as he was appointed to do in life. The point is that Samuel did come and speak, giving vital information which came true.

Consider the magicians of Egypt and how Aaron and Moses were given superior power by YHWH to overcome their magical demonstrations, which they accomplished by lesser demons. Consider Daniel, who was appointed by Nebuchadnezzar as the chief magi, for his divine ability to discern dreams above and beyond the other magicians and astrologers of the kingdom. He was superior because his guiding light was the light of God.

There is a spirit world which consists of darkness and light. It's not always safe for us to decide which side someone is on, as in the case of someone like Sandra, who has been given a gift to help solve crimes. She doesn't claim to be anything more than an investigator, although I think she has a spiritual gift. It's difficult for me to condemn her for that gift, especially after she astounded so many of us with the Laci Peterson case.

Months before Laci's body was found, she was able to document where she was in the bay, and even how she died. I would be a skeptic if if I didn't follow her from her early Rense interviews, listening to her tapes and reading transcriptions which proved to have incredible insight. I think her accuracy was greater than 66% in the end.

Sometimes we need to accept the grey areas as being part of grace, and the unknown as being part of a realm which is not fully available to us in our current form. Faith is the substance of things not seen, and grace covers those gaps that surpass our understanding. If we follow the Law of God, we are not transgressing to believe in something spiritual which cannot be fully understood. It's not like she's conjuring demons and asking them to give her power. She's utilizing a technology and gift to tap into something that seems to be substantial.

The test of a prophet is whether or not their prophecies come true. Who are we to judge. when the outcome is accurate, especially if these murdered souls seem to be crying out for justice, and it's in our moral creed to avenge evil?

How do we know this isn't by God's grace to point a finger at someone who has maliciously stolen lives, or to prevent a possible serial killer from continuing his path of unspeakable evil?

I hope Sandra produces as much light as she did with the Laci Peterson murder. EVP freaks me out, and I am too scared to go there, but, I give her a ton of credit for her good intentions. God bless her. :rose:

pcaves

04-12-2008, 12:08 PM

Beautifully said. I couldn't agree more. God Bless! :rose:

Miss Behavin

04-12-2008, 10:18 PM

Originally posted by lrobert
http://www.heliumraven.com/casefile

Sandra Belanger, psychic, helped in the Laci Peterson case and now is working on Stacy's. The above link is Stacy's preliminary reading so far.

The link below is her notes on the Laci Peterson case:

http://www.heliumraven.com/casefiles [/*]

Holy moly! What a site! I went over there just to poke around and see what she had to say............ that was 2 hours ago! I ended up reading all about Laci Peterson over there too.

It is April... and it will be very interesting to see if what she and the folks (sorry, I understand they don't like to be called that) said about Stacey's body being recovered will come to fruition.

MystryPhobia

04-13-2008, 04:32 AM

Originally posted by Shell0724
<Respectfully snipped>

I hope Sandra produces as much light as she did with the Laci Peterson murder. EVP freaks me out, and I am too scared to go there, but, I give her a ton of credit for her good intentions. God bless her. :rose: [/*]

Shell.. I don't believe that I have seen you post before but WOW.. I wanted to say.. as a christian and a pastors daughter.. I have NEVER heard it actually put the way that you put it and have never had it make more sense to me.

As a believer.. I have always believed that it was possible to communicate with the spirits but have never known what to actually make of it because I was always taught that just because we can.. doesn't mean that we should. I have never understood how something like Sandra's gift htat goes to nothing but good could somehow be wrong but stayed away from it anyway because of my teachings. I never thought about the fact that there are demons (that have never been human) that you can also invite into your life if you are not careful.

You gave me a new insight... thank you!

Miss Behavin

04-13-2008, 12:44 PM

I was thinking about this last night before I went to bed and I hope this is the right thread to post on, so.... here goes -

Does anybody know if Sandra has been contacted in regard to the disappearance of Nicholas Francisco?

TIA

Devotion

04-13-2008, 12:44 PM

Originally posted by velvetbrown
Hi all, Just checking in... Sandra said "April", soooo...

THRILLED they caught C Lauren, the murdering disgrace of a Marine..

and .hoping to see Drewpy in handcuffs soon too! [/*]

Thrilled they caught the murderer that disgraced the Marines and
Counting the days until they catch the murdered that DISGRACED the Bol. POLICE department!...jmo

Top Cat 2

04-13-2008, 09:41 PM

Originally posted by Couviemom
Also want to add, that when they were doing the search where they drained the canal there was a picture of a train with Containers on it. And those tracks were almost next to the canal. I have been told by another poster that sometimes those containers are not looked in for months. Maybe the flat car that the container that I'm guessing she might be in has been moved down toward the Dresden Lock. Remember this is just something I am putting out there as where they should check for Stacy. This is all assumptions on my part and in know way facts just trying to figure out where she might be.
:confused:

IMOO [/*]Hi Couviemom, just came across your posts and was surprised to see that there were no responses to it. iMo you make good sense for where Stacy's body might be. I have connstantly said "Find the Blue Barrel and you'll find Stacy" I admit I maintained that she was stored in a storage unit somewhere but if there is such a place as you describe she may very well be there in the blue barrel instead...... of course both your and my ideas are only assumptions but there are many others here that feel the same.... and that is..........
"Find the BLUE BARREL and you'll find Stacy" JMOHO
The suspense is making me soooooo :flamemad:

Lyndawitha"Y

04-13-2008, 10:00 PM

Originally posted by Miss Behavin

Holy moly! What a site! I went over there just to poke around and see what she had to say............ that was 2 hours ago! I ended up reading all about Laci Peterson over there too.

It is April... and it will be very interesting to see if what she and the folks (sorry, I understand they don't like to be called that) said about Stacey's body being recovered will come to fruition. [/*]

I have had Sandra Belanger's site on my "Favorite" and have not seen one update since February 18,2008..Since the weather has been more favorable fpr searches..Please, you local's please keep us informaed as the activities around the Canals...is my specific focus...I absolutely beleive Stacy will be found,,at least what is left of her remains..but at least, there can be some closure of knowing she has gone onto a better existence..and away from Drew, "the Devil" encarnate!..I think if Drew had a soul..which I rather doubt he is aware he has..then Stacy's spirit should be hovering over him ( taunting) and her kids ( with lots of loving)..until justice is served! Sweet revenge..would look good on Drew..but his selfish, delusional thought processes are beyoung any redemption he could find in the " FINAL COURT" he will face at his attempt to go to heaven??It will not happen!..Drew is a total souless selfish, man with no concern for anything, or anybody unless it suits his purposes!..In other words, a LOSER!

LMS:cuss:

AmyO

04-14-2008, 01:07 PM

AmyO

04-14-2008, 01:14 PM

Originally posted by Lyndawitha"Y

I have had Sandra Belanger's site on my "Favorite" and have not seen one update since February 18,2008..Since the weather has been more favorable fpr searches..Please, you local's please keep us informaed as the activities around the Canals...is my specific focus...I absolutely beleive Stacy will be found,,at least what is left of her remains..but at least, there can be some closure of knowing she has gone onto a better existence..and away from Drew, "the Devil" encarnate!..I think if Drew had a soul..which I rather doubt he is aware he has..then Stacy's spirit should be hovering over him ( taunting) and her kids ( with lots of loving)..until justice is served! Sweet revenge..would look good on Drew..but his selfish, delusional thought processes are beyoung any redemption he could find in the " FINAL COURT" he will face at his attempt to go to heaven??It will not happen!..Drew is a total souless selfish, man with no concern for anything, or anybody unless it suits his purposes!..In other words, a LOSER!

LMS:cuss: [/*]
ITA with you. Did you see his sorry a$$ on Larry King last week? Even Yale Galanter thinks he should keep his trap shut! Brodsky just sat there letting DP go on and on. Why didn't someone ask him where he was the evening that Stacy went missing? I thought for sure one of us posters would have gotten through to ask that - the MOST important question of all! His days as a free may are numbered. Exactly how many days he has left is the question.....

pcaves

04-14-2008, 01:27 PM

Originally posted by AmyO

ITA with you. Did you see his sorry a$$ on Larry King last week? Even Yale Galanter thinks he should keep his trap shut! Brodsky just sat there letting DP go on and on. Why didn't someone ask him where he was the evening that Stacy went missing? I thought for sure one of us posters would have gotten through to ask that - the MOST important question of all! His days as a free may are numbered. Exactly how many days he has left is the question..... [/*]

Hi Amy..

Actually ... LK did ask him. His answer (which was partly cut off by JB) was "I was at home, sleeping". Did anyone else see him get interrupted by JB (almost like he shouldn't have answered that question). JB DEFINATELY reacted!!

There's more info on the LKL Thread.

AmyO

04-14-2008, 01:43 PM

Originally posted by pcaves

Hi Amy..

Actually ... LK did ask him. His answer (which was partly cut off by JB) was "I was at home, sleeping". Did anyone else see him get interrupted by JB (almost like he shouldn't have answered that question). JB DEFINATELY reacted!!

There's more info on the LKL Thread. [/*]
Oh yeah - I did hear him say he was sleeping. He's said that before but we know he wasn't and his cell phone pings prove it. He went to the donut shop and some other such places. He was stupid enough to answer the call from Stacy's sister at, what, 11pm or somewhere there 'bouts?? Plenty of proof he wasn't "sleeping". He's SO dumb!! And just like Yale tried to tell them, all these TV appearance CAN be used against him in court. I bet the prosecutor is LOVING this!

not.another

04-14-2008, 06:14 PM

AmyO --

He was asked that question. My question is...what is the father of 4 children doing sleeping at 9ish at night when SP supposedly called? Maybe I need to change my kids bedtime or something?
IMO:shrug:
This just reeks!

Miss Behavin

04-14-2008, 07:47 PM

Originally posted by AmyO

Isn't Sandra something?! I've spent a lot of time over there too reading and listening to "the voices". Can't listen at night though! LOL I'm sure she's right about April. We're halfway through the month already so it won't be long until she's found imo. [/*]

She really is something! I lost almost a whole night of sleep after listening at night... lol! Something about those voices stick with a person. What she does is amazing and I am open to it, but I think the first time I started asking questions like that and "the folks" answered me - I'd probably be so freaked out I'd faint!
I suppose it would be an emotionally draining process though.

brodysho

04-15-2008, 08:51 AM

What will your guys' thoughts be if April comes and goes and Stacy is never found?

pcaves

04-15-2008, 12:34 PM

"The source offered this timeline for the day Stacy issued her ultimatum: At 5 p.m. on Oct. 28, Peterson, a Bolingbrook cop, called in to take the day off. At 7 p.m., Peterson met his stepbrother, Tom Morphey, at a local Starbucks and discussed "the problems he was having with Stacy and how to dispose of the problem," the source said. Peterson reportedly excused himself and left Morphey in the coffee shop with Peterson's cell phone, which he told Morphey NOT to answer if it rang. The phone did ring after Peterson's departure, and the name "Stacy" appeared on the caller ID."

Ping!

"The source tells Sneed the call was made near the home of her friend Scott Rossetto, a man Stacy was communicating with via cell phone text messages. The source believes this was an attempt by Peterson to place the focus of the police investigation on Stacy's friend. Later that evening, Morphey was again summoned by Peterson -- only this time to his home, where he was reportedly asked to help Peterson remove a plastic blue barrel, which he described to police as feeling warm, and load it into a sport-utility vehicle, sources said."

http://www.suntimes.com November 29, 2007 Archives
http://www.acandyrose.com/stacy_peterson_witness_morphey.htm

summer4meplz

04-15-2008, 02:27 PM

Oh, reading that article just now made me realize how lucky Scott Risetto (sp) is to be alive......do you think it's possible drew had planned to kidnap, murder, and hide his body too?

pcaves

04-16-2008, 02:47 PM

http://www.briansdreams.com/MISSING/publicr/542.htm

Brian's Dreams re: Stacy, etc.

:rose:

lili

04-18-2008, 03:44 AM

Originally posted by pcaves

"The source offered this timeline for the day Stacy issued her ultimatum: At 5 p.m. on Oct. 28, Peterson, a Bolingbrook cop, called in to take the day off. At 7 p.m., Peterson met his stepbrother, Tom Morphey, at a local Starbucks and discussed "the problems he was having with Stacy and how to dispose of the problem," the source said. Peterson reportedly excused himself and left Morphey in the coffee shop with Peterson's cell phone, which he told Morphey NOT to answer if it rang. The phone did ring after Peterson's departure, and the name "Stacy" appeared on the caller ID."

Ping!

"The source tells Sneed the call was made near the home of her friend Scott Rossetto, a man Stacy was communicating with via cell phone text messages. The source believes this was an attempt by Peterson to place the focus of the police investigation on Stacy's friend. Later that evening, Morphey was again summoned by Peterson -- only this time to his home, where he was reportedly asked to help Peterson remove a plastic blue barrel, which he described to police as feeling warm, and load it into a sport-utility vehicle, sources said."

http://www.suntimes.com November 29, 2007 Archives
http://www.acandyrose.com/stacy_peterson_witness_morphey.htm [/*]

Hi,

Just wanted to say thanks for the links. Brilliant!

JMO

Top Cat 2

04-20-2008, 02:34 AM

Originally posted by lili

Hi,

Just wanted to say thanks for the links. Brilliant!

JMO [/*]OK, I went to those links too and tried to copy and paste the site to show that The cadava dogs hit on the bedroom and by the Bollinger lake where Stacy's car was and Drew has his plane. But my pc didn't co-operate...?.....So maybe he used his plane to fly her , gosh, anywhere in that 3 hr dead time. Got to admit it, IMO he's good at concealing murder and mocking the very people that have protected him till now...... The bollinger P D....I would be so ashamed if any member of my family belonged to that particular Police depertment......Amen :patriot:

Top Cat 2

04-20-2008, 02:47 AM

Originally posted by pcaves
http://www.briansdreams.com/MISSING/publicr/542.htm

Brian's Dreams re: Stacy, etc.

:rose: [/*]Hi pcaves, thanks for the Brian link..... It sure tells a story, eh?..... Quoting Brian...........
"she was murdered by her husband and knew how not to get caught"......
Thats what I got out of it, please correct me if I read it wrong?..
TIA :patriot:

JeniferHart

04-20-2008, 03:01 PM

Originally posted by AmyO

Wow - thanks for the update! I've been checking her site at least twice a week wanting to hear updates. It's been a long time since she's posted anything new. [/*]

Spoke to Sandra the other day. Her computer has been in the shop, now that she has it back she is desperately working hard to review material she has collected. This process is extremely tedious and time consuming. Keep checking, she will update ASAP!

lili

04-21-2008, 12:21 AM

Originally posted by Top Cat 2
OK, I went to those links too and tried to copy and paste the site to show that The cadava dogs hit on the bedroom and by the Bollinger lake where Stacy's car was and Drew has his plane. But my pc didn't co-operate...?.....So maybe he used his plane to fly her , gosh, anywhere in that 3 hr dead time. Got to admit it, IMO he's good at concealing murder and mocking the very people that have protected him till now...... The bollinger P D....I would be so ashamed if any member of my family belonged to that particular Police depertment......Amen :patriot: [/*]

I have every confidence that Stacy will be found, and soon. I think that people who have protected him so far have probably had enough.

JMO

Miss Behavin

04-22-2008, 08:49 PM

Originally posted by JeniferHart

Spoke to Sandra the other day. Her computer has been in the shop, now that she has it back she is desperately working hard to review material she has collected. This process is extremely tedious and time consuming. Keep checking, she will update ASAP! [/*]

Thank you so much for the update. I wondered what was going on.

brodysho

04-23-2008, 08:10 AM

Originally posted by brodysho
What will your guys' thoughts be if April comes and goes and Stacy is never found? [/*]
Quoting myself because no one answered.
I don't buy any of this stuff, but for the sake of Stacys family, and for the sake of justice, I hope I am proved wrong.

The clock is ticking.....April is almost over. If I am wrong, I will eat my own shoe.

JeniferHart

04-23-2008, 10:11 AM

Just curious, if your proven wrong and Sandra is right, how would you feel about after death communication, then?

Have you taken the time to read through her website, on her other cases, that have been resolved?

Rest assured, the end for Drew is very near, as the days April tick away.

JeniferHart

04-23-2008, 10:38 AM

Originally posted by Miss Behavin

Thank you so much for the update. I wondered what was going on. [/*]

Keep in mind, there is a vast amount of information that will NOT be made public, online for obvious reason's. I have no idea when she plans to update the site but will try to find out.

Sandra works with a select few, who do recieve information and tapes as she interprets them.

This is done for the information she recieves that she can not make public, so she does have a "witness" so to speak for the info as it is recieved and it will be made public after the fact, when she chooses to make it public.

The tapes are stamped with the date and the time the information is recieved. There is no way to manipulate the date and this is another reason this core group, recieves the information, far in advance, of the event taking place.

In the past Sandra has had a problem with her work being copied and pasted to other websites and her words manipulated and changed. Other's have taken her work and claimed it as their own so she is extremely cautious with who reads, what she has recieved and when and where it is posted.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

In her own words from this webpage:
http://www.heliumraven.com/casefile

"Please understand that this transcript is an intitial rendering. It is a rushed transcript. It can take up to 12 hours to transcribe only two minutes of this material and I am the only one working on these transcriptions"

"Also, there are statements made by the EVP Voices that a extremely case sensitive. If I were to make these statements public it could harm the investigation. The suspect or accomplices could be tipped off and it could result in tampering with the evidence or changing of statements. I have been told many times in the past that the suspected perpetrator of the crime or friends or family members of the suspected perpetrator of the crime have accessed my material online. Frankly, I would like to have been given the opportunity to be a "fly on the wall" as it were, when this has happened.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

In the meantime, light a candle for Stacy daily. Send up prayers that she will be found SOON, and keep Stacy and her family in your prayers and hearts as they continue the search. They will need your strength and prayers to endure the future. Even tho no one is prepared to find a deceased loved one, even if you know in your heart they are gone, it is still truamatic when they are found, and Stacy will be found soon.

:rose: Stacy
:rose: Cassandra, and children

brodysho

04-23-2008, 10:56 AM

Originally posted by JeniferHart
Just curious, if your proven wrong and Sandra is right, how would you feel about after death communication, then?

Have you taken the time to read through her website, on her other cases, that have been resolved?

Rest assured, the end for Drew is very near, as the days April tick away. [/*]
I did read through her website on a number of occassions. I found the Lacy Peterson one quite fascinating. How would I feel if proven wrong? I really can't say. I would be more willing to open my eyes and take a closer look at EVP. I think it would give me the heebie jeebies more than anything though. :D

Like I said, I hope I am proven wrong. I do not foresee an inditement without her body. Something needs to happen to wipe that arrogance off of Drews face.

Again, how would you feel if this April prediction is wrong?

JeniferHart

04-23-2008, 11:07 AM

I do so agree with you on Drew! I do have tremdous faith in Sandra and her work. Sadly, it takes losing someone very close to you before one is willing to have an open mind and believe in after death communication. I used to be a skeptic but events in my personal life and my experiences have changed my mind.

Im not out to change any skeptics mind. I choose to let the reader draw their own conclusions, all I ask is they keep an open mind and take it seriously enough to research for themselves on what info given in advance was accurate and was not. I find an incredible peace and comfort in knowing my deceased loved one, knows what is going on in my life and that they ARE with ME, only in spirit.

Sharon Rocha and Det. Craig Grogan took her seriously enough to listen with a open mind and a open heart. Rest assured other detectives and law enforcement officers have too and yes she has even been investigated because of what she knows on a particular case. The Secret Service has even paid her a visit, early on, in her work.

I keep encouraging her to finish her book on her life, & her research. it is one fascinating read so far! Maybe, one day, she will. Be blessed! Have faith! I do see the recovery of Stacy nearing, and the bars closing in on Drew any day now.

Justice_Dawg

04-23-2008, 11:13 AM

Originally posted by pcaves
http://www.briansdreams.com/MISSING/publicr/542.htm

Brian's Dreams re: Stacy, etc.

:rose: [/*]

Anyone from Ill know where a mine is??

I think Brian is good! He called Jessie Davis right on the money!

JeniferHart

04-23-2008, 11:23 AM

Originally posted by brodysho

Again, how would you feel if this April prediction is wrong? [/*]

Nothing is carved in stone and the events can change if some information is given out in advance. this is another reason, for not giving out everything publicly, beforehand.

No one is 100% and Sandra doesn't claim to be 100%. Keep in mind, this is RESEARCH, and she looks at it from a researcher's point of view NOT as a psychic.

Sandra does not claim to be a psychic. Somehow over the cvourse of her making her research public, the "label" has been attached to her. She does consider herself an extreme anthropologist. Only time will tell what info was or was not accurate in this case. We have to wait and see.

Regardless, it would not change my belifs in her research. Many chose to pick apart what will fit into their agenda, when they criticize her work, not saying you are, but other's have, and they tend to forget the hundred's of accuracies she has made public on various cases, in the past and nit pick on a few inaccuracies which oddly enough were made because because of rushing a transcript. this is another reason the work is done slowly, and meticuously as possible ,to provide the most accurate information. I leave it up to you to draw your own conclusions.

Thomas Edison began this work and passed on, before he could finish. I often wonder how people would feel if we had not had Thomas Edison's other invention's before his death or IF he had lived to see this research through, would it be taken more seriously? Just food for thought.

http://www.heliumraven.com/theresearch

JeniferHart

04-23-2008, 11:36 AM

Originally posted by brodysho

I did read through her website on a number of occassions. I found the Lacy Peterson one quite fascinating. How would I feel if proven wrong? I really can't say. I would be more willing to open my eyes and take a closer look at EVP. [/*]

If and when that day comes, this website is a good place to start, when taking a closer look at EVP.

http://www.aaevp.com/

ETA: The "Big Circle" youtube video links on this page are particularly interesting, I hope you view them and draw your own conclusions.

Mamie

04-25-2008, 01:10 AM

Originally posted by JeniferHart

Spoke to Sandra the other day. Her computer has been in the shop, now that she has it back she is desperately working hard to review material she has collected. This process is extremely tedious and time consuming. Keep checking, she will update ASAP! [/*]

I can't wait to read something new from her. I loved all her writings about Laci and what "The Folks" had to say. They are very innocent in what they say and I just love reading it. JMO

JeniferHart

04-25-2008, 01:03 PM

Originally posted by Mamie

I can't wait to read something new from her. I loved all her writings about Laci and what "The Folks" had to say. They are very innocent in what they say and I just love reading it. JMO [/*]

Hi Mamie,

Did you follow the Lacy Peterson case with us at Sandra's message board?

Not sure if anyone has noticed this yet or not but here goes.

Scroll down to where you see this sentence below in yellow on Sandra page.

http://www.heliumraven.com/casefile

"Going on six months they find Drew Peterson's small, dead wife.*.mp3"

Monday will be exactly 6 months since Stacy went missing. Stay was last seen Oct. 28, 2007 and Monday will be 6 months April 28, 2008. Light a candle, say a prayer Stacy will be found ,SOON!!

If you follw the clues she posts on the pages by way of voice recordings, you can figure out alot on the case. I had to learn to pick them apart and validate them, one by one. It works easier for me that way.

Mamie

04-25-2008, 10:49 PM

Originally posted by JeniferHart

Hi Mamie,

Did you follow the Lacy Peterson case with us at Sandra's message board?

Not sure if anyone has noticed this yet or not but here goes.

Scroll down to where you see this sentence below in yellow on Sandra page.

http://www.heliumraven.com/casefile

"Going on six months they find Drew Peterson's small, dead wife.*.mp3"

Monday will be exactly 6 months since Stacy went missing. Stay was last seen Oct. 28, 2007 and Monday will be 6 months April 28, 2008. Light a candle, say a prayer Stacy will be found ,SOON!!

If you follw the clues she posts on the pages by way of voice recordings, you can figure out alot on the case. I had to learn to pick them apart and validate them, one by one. It works easier for me that way. [/*]

Hi there, Jenifer,

No, I didn't on on the message board at Sandra's, or atleast I don't think I remember doing that, but I did follow what "The Folks" said and probably will remember that always!

Thanks for the tips though about how pick them part to figure out what is actually being said, I (frankly) didn't have the patience for that and had a very slow, old computer at the time. I will try doing what you're doing and see if I can figure anything out.

Thanks again, very much!:seeya:

Mamie

05-03-2008, 01:45 PM

Okay, it's been two and a half months since Sandra posted anything about Stacy. Shouldn't we have had an update from her by now considering this is a pretty important case and not just involving Stacy's demise. JMO. Sandra---where are you?

unclezeek

05-03-2008, 01:50 PM

Originally posted by Mamie
Okay, it's been two and a half months since Sandra posted anything about Stacy. Shouldn't we have had an update from her by now considering this is a pretty important case and not just involving Stacy's demise. JMO. Sandra---where are you? [/*]She's playing checkers with Ms. Cleo.

JeniferHart

05-03-2008, 02:45 PM

Its hard toupdate when yourcomputer keeps screwing up, you guys must understand,she is disabled, froma near death experience, and not only trying to recover emotionally and physically, but also working on other cases as well. for the record, Hans Reiser was convicted Monday, April 28th, she may be updating Nina Reisers page. There is also a VAST amount of information she has that she can not post, for obvious reasons, but rest assured the powers that be, are taking heed. Please be patient. I know its nerveracking.

Mamie

05-03-2008, 04:07 PM

Originally posted by JeniferHart
Its hard toupdate when yourcomputer keeps screwing up, you guys must understand,she is disabled, froma near death experience, and not only trying to recover emotionally and physically, but also working on other cases as well. for the record, Hans Reiser was convicted Monday, April 28th, she may be updating Nina Reisers page. There is also a VAST amount of information she has that she can not post, for obvious reasons, but rest assured the powers that be, are taking heed. Please be patient. I know its nerveracking. [/*]

Thanks Jenifer, I'm just "antsy" I guess. I can't imagine what those who love Stacy are going through so I shouldn't have even posted anything. I'm sure you're right and I know this isn't the only case she's working on.

Thanks for your answer.:seeya:

Lyndawitha"Y

05-03-2008, 04:44 PM

Originally posted by Mamie

Thanks Jenifer, I'm just "antsy" I guess. I can't imagine what those who love Stacy are going through so I shouldn't have even posted anything. I'm sure you're right and I know this isn't the only case she's working on.

Thanks for your answer.:seeya: [/*]

I truly understand your ansiness..however, when a psychic gets involved with any case..the public is the last to know the details..We fortunately got a taste of a few things shortly after Stacy went missing..so keep eyes peeled for more info..I am going to take that in a positive way..Maybe things are heating up and the leads being followed are assisting.and we do know that LE has never made any comments on this case right from the giddy up..So..I want to believe any info Sandra has. is now in fact part of the investigation..so no comment..We can pray that is the case here!:tongue:

LMS

Lrobert1

05-03-2008, 07:21 PM

Sandra has new updates on her site regarding Stacy.

Lyndawitha"Y

05-03-2008, 08:08 PM

Originally posted by Lrobert1
Sandra has new updates on her site regarding Stacy. [/*]

Thankyou..Thankyou..I just read and heard all this info..I think all this goes to our numerous posters impressions of Drew..but what gives me heart is that I believe she will be found and Drew will be as Sandra so well described " Hoisted on his own Petard"..He is such a sicko and despicable figure ( along with his attny).I.... in THIS case look foreward to the trial and will so want to see all the evidence ( so far concealed by LE) exposed for all to see and hear!

Thankyou!

LMS:seeya: :rose:

Lyndawitha"Y

05-03-2008, 08:20 PM

Originally posted by AnnieBean

Hey Lynda, haven't seen you in awhile.
I will definately watch this creeps trial. Last man I was this disgusted with was Scott peterson, and I think Drew is cockier yet!! He makes me mad enough to just spit!!!!!hammer [/*]

I'm with ya..fellow nurse..we have a date..LOL:lol:

:lol: Drew really brings our hackles up doesn't he?!
LMS

brodysho

05-04-2008, 02:21 PM

well, it looks like april has come and gone with no stacy.
how very convienent that this womans most recent post is basically trying to cover up for her failed prediction.

don't get me wrong, i think her work is fascinating in a sense... but i'm just not buying it for this case.
i agree with unclezeeks comment about ms. cleo.......YA MON!

Mamie

05-04-2008, 04:48 PM

Originally posted by Lrobert1
Sandra has new updates on her site regarding Stacy. [/*]

Yes she does, and also now has been clarified by the voices (maybe this is not new but it's new to me) that it is not a barrel. They call it a box. (I posted a couple of weeks ago that I was confused because of the mixed descriptions of the blue container, so I was very happy to read this on Sandra's site!) JMO

north-eh

05-05-2008, 07:48 PM

Originally posted by Lrobert1
Sandra has new updates on her site regarding Stacy. [/*]

According to her latest update, Sandra makes reference to the fact that Stacy's husband "Peterson" likes controversy and she also refers to checking the tub drain, another similarity to Kathleen's murder IMO.

N

sunmoonsky4u

05-07-2008, 10:49 AM

A mother who's son has been missing for years take on these so called miracle workers called physics. I totally agree with her take on it. There is quite a bit of information and her testimonys on this page and real life experience with the pain these so called miracle workers have caused her and many others.
IMO physics including EVP is a scam and more heartbreak waiting to happen to those hoping and praying for the return of their loved one.
If these physics were soo good we would have NONE missing but as you see we still do have many missing.
April has come and gone and Sandra was wrong, what more proof do you need that this stuff is a scam?
JMHO
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So far, there is not one single case that a pyschic solved a missing persons cases using paranormal means. They may have given the appearance that they did because of making guesses based on any knowledge of the case they obtained through various sources.
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Use of psychics in missing persons cases wastes the time and resources of law enforcement and can cause prejudice in the case. (The pyschic claims the person is dead, which may cause people to stop searching, etc.)
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The evidence that psychics are not helpful and in some cases even harmful, is overwhelming.

http://www.projectjason.org/interviews.html#psychics

johnielee333

05-07-2008, 03:10 PM

Mamie

05-07-2008, 09:40 PM

Originally posted by sunmoonsky4u

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IMO physics including EVP is a scam and more heartbreak waiting to happen to those hoping and praying for the return of their loved one.

(snipped)
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So far, there is not one single case that a pyschic solved a missing persons cases using paranormal means. They may have given the appearance that they did because of making guesses based on any knowledge of the case they obtained through various sources.
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Use of psychics in missing persons cases wastes the time and resources of law enforcement and can cause prejudice in the case. (The pyschic claims the person is dead, which may cause people to stop searching, etc.)
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The evidence that psychics are not helpful and in some cases even harmful, is overwhelming.

http://www.projectjason.org/interviews.html#psychics [/*]

Your link deals specifically with psychics-----of which I don't think Sandra claims to be. I realize you coupled EVP in with your belief of psychics but your post contains more verbiage about psychics than EVP. While you are entitled to your opinion and position, EVP and what a psychic perceives are two different things. JMO

not.another

05-07-2008, 09:56 PM

Originally posted by sunmoonsky4u
A mother who's son has been missing for years take on these so called miracle workers called physics. I totally agree with her take on it. There is quite a bit of information and her testimonys on this page and real life experience with the pain these so called miracle workers have caused her and many others.
IMO physics including EVP is a scam and more heartbreak waiting to happen to those hoping and praying for the return of their loved one.
If these physics were soo good we would have NONE missing but as you see we still do have many missing.
April has come and gone and Sandra was wrong, what more proof do you need that this stuff is a scam?
JMHO
snips
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So far, there is not one single case that a pyschic solved a missing persons cases using paranormal means. They may have given the appearance that they did because of making guesses based on any knowledge of the case they obtained through various sources.
--
Use of psychics in missing persons cases wastes the time and resources of law enforcement and can cause prejudice in the case. (The pyschic claims the person is dead, which may cause people to stop searching, etc.)
--
The evidence that psychics are not helpful and in some cases even harmful, is overwhelming.

http://www.projectjason.org/interviews.html#psychics [/*]

I have my doubts about psychics as well. I think they are full of bologna and only tell the families what they want to hear so they have a shred of hope left! I watched one episode a few years back of Montel Williams (Sylvia Brown) and I was appalled and have never watched Montel since.

sunmoonsky4u

05-08-2008, 12:35 AM

Originally posted by Mamie

Your link deals specifically with psychics-----of which I don't think Sandra claims to be. I realize you coupled EVP in with your belief of psychics but your post contains more verbiage about psychics than EVP. While you are entitled to your opinion and position, EVP and what a psychic perceives are two different things. JMO [/*]

I believe that EVP is dealing with paranormal which is what my link is referring to as included in the general verbiage as "psychics". Is it not the supposed talking to ghosts and recording their voices?
This is an area where there is no scientific proof you either believe it or not.
I think if one listens to the whole presentation there is no doubt that EVP concerning missing persons falls into this category.
btw-the presentation is the testimony of the mother whose son has been missing for over 6 years and her experiences with missing person case solvers that use paranormal or psychic means. It's a very interesting testimony and she has a purpose for sharing it.

I mean I see many things posters use from sandra's reading and relay them as fact. how can that be?

Mamie

05-08-2008, 10:50 PM

Originally posted by sunmoonsky4u

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I mean I see many things posters use from sandra's reading and relay them as fact. how can that be? [/*]

You'd have to ask that specific poster about that.

Regarding the rest of your post, I'm sorry you missed what I was saying that psychics and what Sandra does are two different things. Now that's not to say that a psychic doesn't use or can't use EVP, I'm just saying that I didn't think Sandra ever claimed to be a psychic while she does use EVP.

If I'm wrong about Sandra not being a psychic, someone please correct me. TIA! JMO

sunmoonsky4u

05-09-2008, 05:05 PM

Originally posted by Mamie

You'd have to ask that specific poster about that.

Regarding the rest of your post, I'm sorry you missed what I was saying that psychics and what Sandra does are two different things. Now that's not to say that a psychic doesn't use or can't use EVP, I'm just saying that I didn't think Sandra ever claimed to be a psychic while she does use EVP.

If I'm wrong about Sandra not being a psychic, someone please correct me. TIA! JMO [/*]

I did not miss anything in your post I believe you are missing something in my posts. I will try to explain again.
sandra deals with the paranomal. She claims she talks to ghost that give her answer concerning where the missing person is and what happened to them.
She may not call herself a psychic but she does fall under what Kelly from Jasonsproject is trying to warn others about concerning those who claim to have super powers to talk to the dead and solve missing persons case.
Is sandra not trying to solve missing persons cases using paranormal activities?
YES

so since sandra claims to have supernatural powers to ask ghosts questions and record their answers she is infact in the group of those whom projectjason is trying to for warn families of missing loved one to stay away from.

people are entitled to believe sandra or the man in the moon if they want.
my whole purpose of posting this was to show how someone who has a missing son feels about those who claim they have special powers to find the missing.
btw have you listened to the whole presentation?