Kyle Fleischmann, 24, Charlotte,NC 11/9/07

[NCMOMOF2]

http://www.helpfindkyle.com/

I heard this on the local radio station. They are organizing a search for him this afternoon.

[dulcinea]

I'm always afraid to hear the endings of stories that begin with someone leaving a bar alone early in the morning. Please let us know if there are any updates. Are there any rivers nearby?

[barefoot]

There's a Facebook group for him too, someone just sent me a link to it so I came here to see if anything had been mentioned about him. According to that site, today's searches hadn't turned up any potential leads.

Hoping this one comes home safely!

[wornoutmom]

This case sounds a lot like Justin Gaines and they are only several hours away from each other.

[omsk99]

Originally posted by wornoutmom
This case sounds a lot like Justin Gaines and they are only several hours away from each other. [/*]

And Brian Shaffer...

So he didn't come back to the bar to get coat and credit card? If that was his only credit card, he would have been without any means :(

[dulcinea]

Was there any video at the bar?

[slaphappy]

Originally posted by dulcinea
Was there any video at the bar? [/*]



dulcinea, yes they have video of him leaving the bar....and that was the last he was seen.
According to the one article, his Mother has cancer and is scheduled for surgery this week. She said he called her everyday. This does not sound like a young man that would just take off.
Praying for a good outcome.....and praying for his Mother's surgery to go well.

[PinkPony]

I just read about this on CNN's website and came here to see if it had been posted.

This is getting so scary. All of these young men going missing after leaving bars.

:rose: Kyle I hope you are safe. Prayers for Kyle's mom.

[Postergeist]

I'm watching LKL's repeat show and he mentioned this missing person tonight.

This is just so sad, this rash of young men missing.

Good thoughts go out for Kyle and his family. Hope they have resolution soon.

[slaphappy]

Originally posted by Leather&Lace


I did not know that about his mother. :rose:

The family said he would not just take off. I do hope and pray Kyle will be found safe. So glad Greta had a spot for him on her show tonight. [/*]



A quote from the article..." Dick Fleischmenn said there's been no activity on Kyle's cell phone or his bank account, and he had no reason to run off anywhere. His mother just found out she has cancer and has surgery scheduled for this week. Kyle had been calling her everyday."

http:www.wscotv.com/news/14575468/detail.html

Toward the bottom of this article; (hope the link works--never posted one before) :seeya:

[slaphappy]

Alright, going to try this one more time (didn't do it right on my last post)

http://www.wsoctv.com/news/14575468/detail.html

[Honest]

Here is a link to the Facebook group: link (http://www.helpfindkyle.com/)

[Honest]

I am sorry for posting a link that has already been posted. Somehow I missed it when reading through the thread.

[barefoot]

The only news reported from yesterday's search was that several girls came forward with cell phone pictures taken of Kyle the night of his disappearance; they mentioned him possibly going to a party at a Holiday Inn. The website is asking for local people who know anything about such a party to come forward.

I hope they find him--alive--soon.

[barefoot]

In response to the message I received regarding which Holiday Inn they think Kyle went to - someone on Facebook made that connection as well, I think they're looking into the other local Holiday Inns as well as the one closest to the club. Unfortunately they say that the Holiday Inns are not being especially cooperative and that so far he hasn't shown up on any surveillance videotapes. Thanks for your input though, the more information we have, the better!

[omsk99]

It's a good news the family hired a PI. Hope Kyle is found very soon and safe

:rose:

[Breazy]

Boy, these cases are becoming way too common.

:rose: Praying Kyle is found safe.

[PepperPot]

Originally posted by wornoutmom
This case sounds a lot like Justin Gaines and they are only several hours away from each other. [/*]

I noticed that also and are you aware there was another young guy that disappeared from Alabama just a few days before Gaines? His name was Ben Stanford and sadly they found his body, I think yesterday, and his car on the side of I-20 west of Atlanta.

You have a 17 year old guy missing and found dead from Alabama, then another 18 year old missing from Atlanta a few days later, and then a 24 year old missing from here in Charlotte a day or two after that and the circumstances of the latter two are eerily similar, plus the I-85 and I-20 corridor connects all of these places within just a couple of hours.

It really makes you wonder. I sure hope we don't have a psycho nut case stalking the southern corridor down here.

I just feel really bad for these guys' families and friends. Why are there people out there that cause so much pain for other people? :(

[chance]

Originally posted by PepperPot


I noticed that also and are you aware there was another young guy that disappeared from Alabama just a few days before Gaines? His name was Ben Stanford and sadly they found his body, I think yesterday, and his car on the side of I-20 west of Atlanta.

You have a 17 year old guy missing and found dead from Alabama, then another 18 year old missing from Atlanta a few days later, and then a 24 year old missing from here in Charlotte a day or two after that and the circumstances of the latter two are eerily similar, plus the I-85 and I-20 corridor connects all of these places within just a couple of hours.

It really makes you wonder. I sure hope we don't have a psycho nut case stalking the southern corridor down here.

I just feel really bad for these guys' families and friends. Why are there people out there that cause so much pain for other people? :( [/*]

I'm with you I sure hope we don't have a nut job running around here!
I live in Charlotte in fact about 10 minutes from Uptown and the Buckhead Saloon, where he was last seen.
The news is starting to report the similarities between the cases of these missing young men.
I just hope he will be found soon.

Chance

[PepperPot]

Originally posted by chance


I'm with you I sure hope we don't have a nut job running around here!
I live in Charlotte in fact about 10 minutes from Uptown and the Buckhead Saloon, where he was last seen.
The news is starting to report the similarities between the cases of these missing young men.
I just hope he will be found soon.

Chance [/*]

I work in the Hearst Tower right across the street from Buckhead, that's what drew my interest in this case. Some of my coworkers and friends have drank there many weekend nights and Uptown is generally pretty safe which is what makes this so disturbing. I have been amazed at the amount of people that have been out there searching and stuff. They meet up every day in front of Buckhead and there are fliers posted everywhere. It's amazing what this guy's family and friends have been able to organize, no thanks to the Charlotte-Mecklenburg police who have done very little so far.

One other thing that bothers me about this. It said in the Charlotte Observer this morning that the last calls from his cell phone came were bounced off of the cell tower at 10th and Siegel. That is just on the outside edge of Uptown and starts to turn into a really shady area. What on Earth would have made him go over there in the middle of the night?

[chance]

Originally posted by PepperPot


I work in the Hearst Tower right across the street from Buckhead, that's what drew my interest in this case. Some of my coworkers and friends have drank there many weekend nights and Uptown is generally pretty safe which is what makes this so disturbing. I have been amazed at the amount of people that have been out there searching and stuff. They meet up every day in front of Buckhead and there are fliers posted everywhere. It's amazing what this guy's family and friends have been able to organize, no thanks to the Charlotte-Mecklenburg police who have done very little so far.

One other thing that bothers me about this. It said in the Charlotte Observer this morning that the last calls from his cell phone came were bounced off of the cell tower at 10th and Siegel. That is just on the outside edge of Uptown and starts to turn into a really shady area. What on Earth would have made him go over there in the middle of the night? [/*]


Well I wont specutate on that, I have no idea. There are alot of places in Charlotte that are sketchy.

But leave it to Fox Charlotte to call the big stories of the night, the drought and Bruton Smith:rolleyes:

They have raised about 7 grand for the search so far.
I hope this has a happy ending!

Chance

[wmills6@caro]

Wasn't there also a young soldier who disappeared after leaving a bar in Savannah? I apologize I can't recall his name just now.

I'm from Charlotte, and now live in the Monroe/Indian Trail area, I hope Kyle is found safe too. Thanks for posting this case.

[lmiller]

Here are some links to stay up to date - if you are in the Charlotte area and want to help out check these links.

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=6326026817&ref=mf

http://groups.myspace.com/helpfindkyle

a word from his sister . .
From Noelle Fleischmann:
Words cannot express how much I appreciate everyone staying out so late searching last night, and everyone going this morning. THANK YOU!!! MY dad asked me to post this on the website--

"WE ARE OFFERING A PRIVATE $10,000 REWARD. ANYONE WITH INFORMATION ABOUT KYLE SHOULD CALL CRIME STOPPERS AT 704-334-1600"

We are in the process of making new flyers with this information on them.. If anyone could do the same, it would be extremely helpful. Especially because it rained this morning, we may need to go back and put this new information up. We are most likely trying to reach people on the streets with this reward information--hopefully someone who was hesitant to come forward will change their tune. Again, THANK YOU TO EVERYONE FROM THE FLEISCHMANN FAMILY! DONT GIVE UP!
-please keep reposting this

[slaphappy]

Thinking of Kyle, his family, and friends.

I hope he comes home safely.

[darcie]

Praying you come home safe Kyle....

And for his mother...thinking of her this morning.

[lmiller]

If anyone is in the Charlotte area and would like to help we are having a search tomorrow . . . . . . .

11/17 - 8am-7pm Search beginning at Buckhead. From 8-10 food will be provided by local area restaurants. The search will begin around 10:00 a.m

If anyone would like to have a flyer emailed to them to pass out let me know and I will forward one along.

If you are interested in making donations to go towards our search you can do so at . . www.helpfindkyle.com

Thanks!

lboogiemiller@gmail.com

[LushLife]

I too have been checking on this board and others hoping he has been found, it's so sad and strange, there are a few questions I would like to throw out here that I think might help find him. How much did he drink that nite? Did he appear drunk which could have led to him stumbling somewhere. Did he 'drunk dial' ...he made phone calls early in the morning, was he intoxicated? Did he have a history of drug use? Could he have met up w/ a drug dealer????? Overdosed????? This case has gotten media attention but we seem to know very little about Kyle....jmo.

[urushoil]

Originally posted by LushLife
I too have been checking on this board and others hoping he has been found, it's so sad and strange, there are a few questions I would like to throw out here that I think might help find him. How much did he drink that nite? Did he appear drunk which could have led to him stumbling somewhere. Did he 'drunk dial' ...he made phone calls early in the morning, was he intoxicated? Did he have a history of drug use? Could he have met up w/ a drug dealer????? Overdosed????? This case has gotten media attention but we seem to know very little about Kyle....jmo. [/*]


I am curious too. I so hope he is found safely.

I read that he left his pea coat and credit card at the bar. Was he intending to come right back. Does that state have a cutoff time for serving alcohol. IIRC, he was last seen at 2am.

Was his credit card at the bar to cover his tab? Or left in his coat? I can see being drunk and leaving your coat. Perhaps even forgetting to clear your tab and get your card back. Was he lured out of the bar? Step out for smoke? Did he say anything when he got up from his seat?

Thanks for any updates. Hoping for a happy ending

[urushoil]

Is there any update on the mom's surgery? I can't imagine being in her shoes having to face such adversity. I hope that her surgery is successful and can ease a little of her suffering. The courage she must have :rose:

The whole family seems very brave and focused on the mission at hand. Please continue to be strong. It's one of Kyle's best chances for a safe return , IMO.

[LushLife]

More questions...was it typical of Kyle to call friends during the early morning hours or was it a sign that he was in trouble? The fact that he didn't leave messages could mean that someone could hear him. Did he ever not show up for work (call in sick) after a nite out? Could someone have slipped something into his drink in which case the surveilence tapes would be a huge help. Hoping to find Kyle.

[urushoil]

Bumping for Kyle :rose:

Any new leads? Hoping for the best for him and his family

[eSPY]

Kyle probably left the bar around the time that it closed, forgetting his coat, and couldn't get back in because the bar had closed. Which leaves him downtown with no money and only his cell phone to contact people. How cold was it in Charlotte that night? That would provide information about the urgency of his situation.

I imagine that, after unsuccessfully trying to call his friends (why not call his parents?), he decides to find the nearest bus or train station. Maybe he's familiar with the area but not quite sure where the station is, so he starts walking in the nearby streets looking for the station. Or perhaps he was trying to walk back to his apartment or his friend's house--anyone know how close the bar was to those locations?

If I were stranded downtown and my cell phone stopped working, I'd stop into the nearest hotel and ask to use the phone.

[chance]

Originally posted by eSPY
Kyle probably left the bar around the time that it closed, forgetting his coat, and couldn't get back in because the bar had closed. Which leaves him downtown with no money and only his cell phone to contact people. How cold was it in Charlotte that night? That would provide information about the urgency of his situation.

I imagine that, after unsuccessfully trying to call his friends (why not call his parents?), he decides to find the nearest bus or train station. Maybe he's familiar with the area but not quite sure where the station is, so he starts walking in the nearby streets looking for the station. Or perhaps he was trying to walk back to his apartment or his friend's house--anyone know how close the bar was to those locations?

If I were stranded downtown and my cell phone stopped working, I'd stop into the nearest hotel and ask to use the phone. [/*]

There are no busses or trains that run at that time of night in Charlotte. I don't think the weather would have caused any urgency. Until the last three days it has been pretty nice here. Wednesday it was 74 during the day and got down to 59 over night. Since then it has gotten pretty chilly here.
It was reported that he was at the Bobcats Arena to see Dane Cook and went to the Buckhead after the show for drinks. I would not think that someone would go to a comedy show alone, but they have not mentioned that he was with anyone that night other than the girls that came foward with pics of meeting him that night at the bar. I don't know what to think. But I sure hope they find out something soon.

Chance

[barefoot]

There's no hour/time cut-off for serving alcohol in NC; I'm not sure what time the Buckhead closes, but they would have been serving right up until closing time.

It hasn't been frigid in NC in the evenings, but it's been cool enough that most people wouldn't want to be outside after dark without a coat or jacket for very long. My sister went to the Dane Cook comedy show at Bobcats Arena that night too, and she wore a long-sleeved sweater and jacket (and she's NEVER cold, so it was at least cool enough to warrant that). I asked her if she'd taken any pictures at the Dane Cook show and she said she hadn't.

I'm not terribly familiar with that neighborhood - is there a hotel within walking distance of the Buckhead where he could have stopped to use the phone? The previous poster was right, there aren't any buses or other public transportation at that hour, but he probably wouldn't have had any trouble getting a taxi.

[PinkPony]

I hope there are some answers soon for Kyle's family and I pray that his mother is doing well.

[sunstar]

There was a search of Kyle's condominium today ~

"Police searched Kyle Fleischmann's condominium and the surrounding area early this morning.

The 24-year-old has been missing since he was seen at the Buckhead Saloon Nov. 9.

Police took three waist-high brown paper bags with what appeared to be bedding from Fleischmann's condominium around 1 p.m.

Earlier in the morning, neighbors said, K-9 units searched the grounds of The Fransciscan Terrace, a condominium complex near Pfieffer College. The property abuts Little Sugar Creek. Neighbors also said the dogs searched several cars parked at the complex."

http://www.charlotte.com/109/story/368424.html

[eSPY]

Interesting. It looks like cops have some information that he returned to his apartment...? I wonder if he walked (Pfeiffer College is ~ 5 miles from the bar) or got a ride with someone.

[chance]

Originally posted by barefoot
There's no hour/time cut-off for serving alcohol in NC; I'm not sure what time the Buckhead closes, but they would have been serving right up until closing time.

It hasn't been frigid in NC in the evenings, but it's been cool enough that most people wouldn't want to be outside after dark without a coat or jacket for very long. My sister went to the Dane Cook comedy show at Bobcats Arena that night too, and she wore a long-sleeved sweater and jacket (and she's NEVER cold, so it was at least cool enough to warrant that). I asked her if she'd taken any pictures at the Dane Cook show and she said she hadn't.

I'm not terribly familiar with that neighborhood - is there a hotel within walking distance of the Buckhead where he could have stopped to use the phone? The previous poster was right, there aren't any buses or other public transportation at that hour, but he probably wouldn't have had any trouble getting a taxi. [/*]

There is a cut off time in NC for aclohol it is 2:00 am. You have to stop serving at 2 and I believe all alcohol must be off the table by 2:30.

Any news on the search? I've been at work haven't seen anything about it.

Chance

[jace]

Okay, this is a stupid question but could they have taken the bedding only to give the dogs a scent to go on?

It does sound like thought that they think he may have gone back to his apartment since they're checking cars there.

I hope he's found soon and safe.

I pray for him and his mother.

[slaphappy]

Just checking on Kyle.


Praying for Kyle and his family. Has anybody heard how his Mother made out with the surgery? Hope she is ok.

[jace]

Originally posted by onederwomyn
I think going to the apartment is standard. The usually will search the residence for any missing person, seize computers, etc...to just cover everything. I am pretty sure they searched Brian Schaffer's apartment after he went missing from Columbus, OH last year (and then some no good people broke into it and stole some things -- LE thought it was unrelated to him being missing).

Anyways, I hope that action is because they know more...but my hunch is that it is just SOP. [/*]

Thanks onderwomyn.

[PepperPot]

Originally posted by chance


There are no busses or trains that run at that time of night in Charlotte. I don't think the weather would have caused any urgency. Until the last three days it has been pretty nice here. Wednesday it was 74 during the day and got down to 59 over night. Since then it has gotten pretty chilly here.
It was reported that he was at the Bobcats Arena to see Dane Cook and went to the Buckhead after the show for drinks. I would not think that someone would go to a comedy show alone, but they have not mentioned that he was with anyone that night other than the girls that came foward with pics of meeting him that night at the bar. I don't know what to think. But I sure hope they find out something soon.

Chance [/*]

That particular night was very cold. It dropped down into the low 30s that night.

[slaphappy]

Bumping for Kyle! Please be found safe and soon!

[urushoil]

Originally posted by marktaylorph
Anonymous tips can be posted at www.marksaves.com or sent to ATL.LIVE@GMAIL.COM GURANTEED PRIVACY! Also this is a safe and secure site to discuss. There will be a secure chat area set up for Justin Gaines, and Kyle Fleischmann to afford people a place that is secure to speak openly in hopes of generating an environment to get folks to open up. Somebody knows something! Keep checking the site it will be up later tonight. I have my tech working none stop. Time is of essence.

Latest factual updates regarding Justin Gaines Gwinnett County Georgia , and Kyle Fleischmann Charlotte North Carolina. Each have an article and broadcast. Included is a live interview with Daniel Cagnelli which is Kyle Fleischmann's best friend. Listen, he is a super guy, and super friend. If you are not familiar as to how to subscribe to the feeds just got to our website to read the article, and at the end of each article is a mp3 file. Just click it and listen. Most of all pray for these families. These include Important info. As I always say pass these feeds to everyone you know. It could fall on the right ears, and we can get info or leads on these young men. THEY WOULD DO IT FOR YOU!
<a href="http://www.marksaves.com">Atlanta Live Website</a>


JUSTIN GAINES UPDATE FEED by ATLANTA LIVE MEDIA PRODUCTIONS
http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/marksaves/dNgX/~5/187492670/justin3.mp3

KYLE FLEISCHMANN UDATE FEED by ATLANTA LIVE MEDIA PRODUCTIONS
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IF ALL THESE FAIL JUST GO TO http://www.marksaves.com here you can read the article subscribe to feeds, and at the end of each article you will find an mp3 file to listen to the broadcast.

Keep Praying
Dr. Mark Taylor
CEO
Atlanta Live Media Productions [/*]


Dear Sir:

Please provide the numbers and contact info that LE / family has in place [which exsisted prior to your helpful resources becoming available]

It seems EVERYONE would be best be served by publishing ALL the contact information. Not just yours as I am sure you did not mean for your message to come across that way. TIA

[lmiller]

Crimestoppers - 704.334.1600

or the lead detective on the case . .
Please contact Det.J.L. Tuttle @704-336-3949, he's the lead DEt for Kyle's case, his e-mail address is jtuttle@cmpd.org

[brwneydemily]

I did google the hotels in the area: http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=e...1673&z=17&om=1. Buckhead Saloon is at 5th and College.

I heard from CTV Boards that someone thought Kyle was heading to a Holiday Inn from Buckhead. This would make sense, as a Holiday Inn is less than a block away. I would hope that place was checked.

I'm in Charlotte for the weekend, and may run down to take some pics. I'll post if I do.

Does anyone know the radius of a cell phone tower? As in, his phone last pinged at 10th and Siegle, but how far away can his phone be to ping that tower?

[slaphappy]

marktaylorph,

Someone put up a hate site for Kyle? That is so cold and uncaring.

Some of your posts are confusing. (imo) But then , again, I'm not the brightest bulb.

Prayers for Kyle and his family.

[rasta-girl]

I live in the Charlotte area and this case is really confusing. A male body was found last week in a rural area of SC (about 20 miles outside of Charlotte). I prayed it wasn't Kyle and I was so glad to come home from a trip to hear that the body wasn't positively identified as Kyle. However, I do hope that that victim's family does have some peace and closure.
Charlotte is a great city but it is still a city and there are some areas that are shady, be it day or night, like any other city. I hope Kyle didn't end up in the wrong place, at the wrong time. We have agang problem here that seems to be growing quickly. Hopefully, he didn't mess with the wrong people. I'm keeping him and his family in my thoughts!

[omsk99]

Sorry if this link was posted before:

http://www.helpfindkyle.com

:rose:

[obie123]

I graduated from the same school as Kyle and know some of his frat brothers as part of the alumni dept. The bedding and such was almost definately used just for scent based on an interview his father gave. From what I have been told he had no history of drugs, getting wasted, calling people needlessly etc.

[Postergeist]

Good to hear that dogs have been used in the search.

http://www.wsoctv.com/news/14695610/detail.html

(posted yesterday)

[slaphappy]

Originally posted by Postergeist
Good to hear that dogs have been used in the search.

http://www.wsoctv.com/news/14695610/detail.html

(posted yesterday) [/*]


Postie,

Thank you for posting that link.

Prayers for Kyle.

[chance]

Fox News Charlotte has reported that they are brining in a psychic to help with the search for Kyle.

I hope she can help.


http://www.myfoxcharlotte.com/myfox/


Chance

[Breazy]

Checking in for news on Kyle . . .

I pray he is found safe but from everything I've read about him, it doesn't look good. I pray his mother is recovering well from her surgery and the prognosis is good. I pray for all those that continue to search day in and day out. I pray answers are found and there is resolution.

:wreath:

[slaphappy]

Thinking of Kyle.

Any news at all?

[lmiller]

Hey everyone - we have established an official non-profit organization - The Kyle Fleischmann Foudation. The site will be www.TheKFF.org (for the time being you will be redirected to www.helpfindkyle.com) The site should be up and running by the first of the year.

Kyle's case will be on America's Most Wanted TONIGHT 12/1/07 at 9pm on FOX. Please watch and tell everyone you know to tune in.

Thanks!

[LushLife]

What is LE doing? What about the FBI? It seems like this man dissapeared....it's great his friends have gotten together and launched an internet search but I watch Charlotte news and it is not mentioned. I sadly feel it is foul play...(otherwise his body would have been discovered)..why is this man's disappearance being ignored???? To me...Kyle is as important as Natalee Hollaway...maybe more important, Natalee didn't use the best judgement getting into a car w/ 3 men in a foreign country...EVERYONE should be looking for Kyle and God forbid a connection to Justin Gaines...JMO. My prayers are w/ Kyle and Justin.

[chance]

Anybody watch AMW? I was at work and missed it. I have not heard any more about the psychic was she mentioned on the show?

I worked all weekend so I have not seen any local news. Has there been anything reported?

I hope they get some answers soon.


Chance

[jace]

praying for Kyle :rose:

[chance]

The family does not believe he is missing, but that he is deceased. How very sad. I hope they find answers soon


http://www.myfoxcharlotte.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=5173713&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=VSTY&pageId=1.1.1

Hope this link works.


Chance

[omsk99]

Originally posted by chance
The family does not believe he is missing, but that he is deceased. How very sad. I hope they find answers soon


http://www.myfoxcharlotte.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=5173713&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=VSTY&pageId=1.1.1

Hope this link works.


Chance [/*]

Oh no, I can't even imagine how they must be feeling to say that :(

[butterfly28]

Originally posted by chance
The family does not believe he is missing, but that he is deceased. How very sad. I hope they find answers soon


http://www.myfoxcharlotte.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=5173713&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=VSTY&pageId=1.1.1

Hope this link works.


Chance [/*]



That clip was absolutely heartbreaking. I hope Kyle's family gets the answers they need so badly.

:rose:

[chance]

Originally posted by omsk99


Oh no, I can't even imagine how they must be feeling to say that :( [/*]


I can't imagine it either, but somehow I think you just know.

If this is ever resolved I don't think it will be a happy ending.

Somebody knows something and they are not telling.

The video of him leaving does not show him being wasted. He also left his jacket and creit card in the bar, to me this means he was running outside to meet someone and he thought he would be right back. IMO.

I think somebody is hiding behind the fact that this seems unsolvable. Also MOO.

Let's hope the CMPD keeps at it to find the answers this family deserves!

Chance

[jace]

Bumping for Kyle. You're right somebody knows something. That's what makes it so frustrating. They should think of what his family is going through.

:rose: for Kyle and his family.

[chance]

The local news showed more of the video of Kyle leaving the Buckhead. They are trying to identify the people that were walking towards the door as he left the bar. I can't find a link for it. I saw it on fox charlotte.

I can't believe if you were at the Buckhead Saloon that night you would not have identified yourself to the police. It just seem to me that you would want to help this family find their son! I am just stunned that they have to put this video out to figure out who these peole are :(


Let's pray for some answers soon!

Chance

[jace]

I'm sure some of them feel that they don't have anything that will help the police. I say, let the police decide that. You never know when one little thing that you noticed might give them a break in the case.

:rose: for Kyle

[jace]

:rose:

[jace]

bumping for Kyle

:rose:

[jace]

Has anyone heard anything new about Kyle? I guess you would have posted it if you had.

I don't want him to be forgotten.

:rose:

[jace]

:rose:

[JCamac]

Does anyone from the Charlotte area have any idea or feeling about what might have happenned to Kyle?

[jace]

:rose:

[jace]

I know there hasn't been anything new posted in the news but I don't want people to forget about Kyle.

[omsk99]

Thank you for the bump, jace.

:rose:

[Jbrink]

any news?

[omsk99]

Unfortunately, no :( Thanks for all the bumps, I can't believe there are no news on any of these missing people

:rose:

[JCamac]

It is horrible that there is no news about Kyle. I really hope investigators are making progress.

After almost three years, some progress has been made in Danielle Imbo and Richard Petrone's investigation--for anyone that may have been following this case.

http://cbs3.com/local/Danielle.Imbo.Richard.2.647341.html

I just hope Kyle's moves more quickly...

[carterkatt]

JC - thanks for the link on the Imbo/Petrone case. I have followed it, and have always wondered what happened.

[omsk99]

Not sure if this was posted before

http://www.helpfindkyle.com/

:rose:

[omsk99]

http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=Kera110907

[Jbrink]

Kyle's site has a recent interview with his father and that just breaks my heart to read. It's been almost three months since Kyle just disappeared. There have been so many young men in recent months who go out to a bar and seemingly just disappear into the night. I hope there are answers soon.

:rose:

[jace]

It does seem like there's been a rash of young men missing. My son is twenty-one and he just left the office to go to school. Thinking of Kyle and the others I want to make him come back and never let him out of my sight. Same thing with my seventeen year old daughter. You think when they become young adults that you don't have to worry as much about things like this but it just doesn't stop.



:rose: Prayers that Kyle will be found safe and soon.

[omsk99]

Originally posted by Jbrink
Kyle's site has a recent interview with his father and that just breaks my heart to read. It's been almost three months since Kyle just disappeared. There have been so many young men in recent months who go out to a bar and seemingly just disappear into the night. I hope there are answers soon.

:rose: [/*]

I read that too, it was very difficult and sad :(

[jace]

:rose:

[Breazy]

May God help bring Kyle's family answers, the not-knowing is nearly impossible to live with.


:rose:

[Jbrink]

bumping for Kyle :rose:

[jace]

:rose: For Kyle and his family.

[Cury-us Coyote]

Paper: New Details in Kyle Fleischmann Case
http://www.myfoxwghp.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=5924892&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.2.1

From bar to
pizza place to ...
New details in missing man
case place him until 3 a.m.
http://www.charlotte.com/109/story/519621.html

[Myst]

have been following another missing person story for months, so hadn't heard about kyle until today.

sounds to me like kyle knew something was going to happen to him, and was in panic mode even before he left the pizza place. there was a reason he left his coat and debit/charge card at the pizza place when he left. he very likely knew someone at the pizza place would then try to locate him to return his items.

either that or kyle may have stepped outside for a smoke, and been overtaken there. it was reported that he had been seen with a young lady who then left with her boyfriend. could be that guy was waiting outside for kyle and grabbed him, etc.

from what i understand, cell phones only ‘ping’ when a call is made from them. could be kyle had his friends and familys phone #’s on a quick-call list where you only need to dial one number to reach them. perhaps kyle was being taken somewhere by someone, and only had a chance to hit one number at a time. the calls kyle was making could have been him trying to help his loved ones track wherever he was being taken. the last place his cell phone pinged is where i’d start looking for him.

3500 people gone missing in a year from that area is mind-boggling! am hoping that the authorities are checking if this could be an area that young people are being kidnapped for an overseas auctioning type of thing.

my prayers are with kyle's family and friends.

:rose:

[omsk99]

Originally posted by Cury-us Coyote
Paper: New Details in Kyle Fleischmann Case
http://www.myfoxwghp.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=5924892&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.2.1

From bar to
pizza place to ...
New details in missing man
case place him until 3 a.m.
http://www.charlotte.com/109/story/519621.html [/*]

Thank you for the update, first in such a long time. I cannot remember now, but I thought that he left his coat and debit card at the bar, and not the pizza place, since they only found out about teh pizza place now :confused:

[Myst]

Originally posted by omsk99


Thank you for the update, first in such a long time. I cannot remember now, but I thought that he left his coat and debit card at the bar, and not the pizza place, since they only found out about teh pizza place now :confused: [/*]

i reread the latest article a bit more carefully, and you're right, kyle did leave his coat and debit card at the bar. then he went to the pizza place. this is even more mysterious than i first thought!

so kyle had gone to the bar with a group of friends, who left between 11 pm and 1 am. seems kyle stayed at the bar by himself.

says his car was parked on South Boulevard. anyone familiar with the area enough to know where that is? near the bar, near the pizza place, or somewhere else?

[omsk99]

Originally posted by Myst


i reread the latest article a bit more carefully, and you're right, kyle did leave his coat and debit card at the bar. then he went to the pizza place. this is even more mysterious than i first thought!

so kyle had gone to the bar with a group of friends, who left between 11 pm and 1 am. seems kyle stayed at the bar by himself.

says his car was parked on South Boulevard. anyone familiar with the area enough to know where that is? near the bar, near the pizza place, or somewhere else? [/*]

I agree, it just doesn't make sense that he would go to a [pizza place without money. Why leave a coat and the card at all at the bar? He just forgot about them because he was drinking?

I don't know the area, so unfortunately cannot answer your question. But who could he be meeting there at 3 am?..

[Kip]

I'm glad there's some new information, but it's sure puzzling that no one from the pizza place reported that Kyle was there before now.

[barefoot]

Originally posted by Myst
says his car was parked on South Boulevard. anyone familiar with the area enough to know where that is? near the bar, near the pizza place, or somewhere else? [/*]

South Boulevard is incredibly long and runs from one part of town to another - without being familiar with the exact pizza place/bar/etc. and exactly where the car was parked, I wouldn't be able to figure it out. It's entirely possible that his car could have been on South Blvd and still be parked a number of miles away because it's so long.

I moved just outside Charlotte not quite a month ago and saw this story in the newspaper today. This was the first I'd heard of it since moving here, although I knew about it beforehand - I was kind of surprised, I've been keeping an eye out for posters or something, but there's been nothing.

[Myst]

good questions and viewpoints, all!

and thanks for answering about the street, didn't realize it was that long. might be good if LE can pinpoint where these places were adjacent to where his car was found.

am gonna go back and read earlier reports given on kyle, follow links and such, see if we can find out any more info.

it's odd that there aren't any posters and such up. even if they've blown away by now or something, one would think his family might replace them. could jog someone's memory or such. am hoping that at least there are posters or something up around the pizza place and bar. that's what i'd be doing for sure, if it were my son/brother/friend.

[hinman]

In the article it says he danced with a girl whose boyfriend and some of the boyfriends friends where there. I am curious about them, have they been interviewed extensively?

[Cury-us Coyote]

Fleischmann spotted at Fuel after bar
http://news14.com/content/headlines/593520/fleischmann-spotted-at-fuel-after-bar/Default.aspx

New hope in case of missing 24-year-old
(includes video)
http://www.wcnc.com/news/local/stories/wcnc-030308-al-fleischmann_case.1c7c2d0e.html

New Details Revealed In Charlotte Missing Man Case
http://www.wsoctv.com/news/15477303/detail.html

[Jbrink]

I'm happy to hear there are some new leads. Hopefully this will get some answers. I too had some questions about the girl Kyle was dancing with and her boyfriend and his friends.
Bruised male egos + Alcohol can be a dangerous combination. I would also like to hear if they have all been interviewed and if they have been ruled out as suspects. That doesn't sit well with me at all. MOO.

[Myst]

In the media at one of the links given, it said that they "weren't sure" if it was Kyle who was seen at the pizza place. Sounds like that is still in question.

Looking thru the different info available on Kyle, as was mentioned earlier by several people, there IS an incredible parallel between Kyle and the missing Justin Gaines.

Justin went missing exactly a week before Kyle went missing! :eek:

Justin was last seen (for sure) at a bar, Wild Bill's in Duluth, GA - Nov 2nd, 2007 at 2:00 am

Kyle was last seen (for sure) at a bar, Buckhead Saloon in Charlotte, NC - Nov 9th, 2007 at 2:20 am

The intuitive Brian, at Brian's Dreams, has sensed these things about the two young men:

Brian about Kyle 1-31-08:
a thin white female involved
with dark hair
26 years old
named Tracy
from or in TN
meth cooking
Nashville Park 29
trailer on blocks
propane tank

Brian about Justin 1-5-08:
26 year old thin white female
named Tina
in Nashville, TN
wanted for theft and drug possession
CTT (or CCT) Wal-Mart will show the two together
black digital clock in truck
they left at 3:07 AM
Garmen GPS
Iphone / red (or red cover)
white trailer
he will come home

Brian isn't sure if the two are connected or not, yet believes it is possible.

Brian on Kyle:
http://briansprediction.com/MISSING/publicr/608.htm

Brian on Justin:
http://briansprediction.com/MISSING/publicr/588.htm

Kyle's website:
http://www.helpfindkyle.com/

Justin's website:
http://www.justingaines.com/

[3doglady]

I find it really strange that no one from the pizza place (Fuel) said anything before about Kyle being there with all the publicity and searches in the area. I live near Charlotte and have been told by young people here that Fuel is a popular place to go after leaving bars in the area.

[jace]

It's hard to believe that someone could just disappear off the face of the earth but lately it seems to be happening more and more.

Has anyone heard anything new about Kyle or how his mom is doing?



:rose:

[jace]

Any news on Kyle or his family?

[jace]

I do too. I wish there was something I could do to help his family find him.


:rose:

[Cury-us Coyote]

ALL NEW TONIGHT: Allison, Kyle, Kent
http://www.ncwanted.com/ncwanted_home/story/2647745/

[Cury-us Coyote]

Dick & Noel Fleischann with Keith Larson
http://larson.wbt.com/audio.cfm?ID=934

[Jbrink]

bump :rose:

[jace]

:rose:

for Kyle

[omsk99]

Still waiting fore news :(

Kyle :rose:

[not.another]

Could this be the work of the smiley face killers?

http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=330037

Since he has not been found yet, I think there is a high possibility.
IMO

[Oehll]

Originally posted by not.another
Could this be the work of the smiley face killers?

http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=330037

Since he has not been found yet, I think there is a high possibility.
IMO [/*]
----------------------------

YES, IMO it certainly COULD BE!

The story is all too familiar!!

Prayers for ALL these families......

[Oehll]

:rose: For all the missing & their families

[LoLo321]

Could this be the work of the smiley face killers?

I was thinking the same thing. Very similar.

[Oehll]

Still nothing new????

[KolaKock]

Just wanted to bump this thread for Kyle, his family, and friends.

This case, along with the Justin Gaines case, always comes up on my mind daily...just wondering how someone can totally disappear without a trace and never be found. Not even a single clue or piece of evidence...it is a really sad thing.

Here is hoping something happens soon and this family gets some kind of closure.

[jace]

Thanks for bumping this thread. I looked for it yesterday and couldn't find it.

I think about Kyle often too. I care about all the missing people but sometimes one just stands out in your mind. Kyle is that way for me. I think it's because he reminds me of my son.

:rose: Never giving up hope that Kyle will be found.

[omsk99]

I think of both of them very often, and of Brian

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