Jaliek Rainwalker - 12 yrd old GREENWICH, N.Y- 11/8/07

[KindraLore]

GREENWICH, N.Y. — The local police chief believes harm may have come to a 12-year-old boy after search teams and divers failed to find him for more than a week.

Jaliek L. Rainwalker of Greenwich has been missing since last Thursday. Cambridge-Greenwich Police Chief George Bell said Rainwalker was last seen when his adoptive father told him to go to bed that night. During the night Rainwalker placed pillows under his blankets and left a goodbye note, and has not been seen since, according to Bell.

"I believe that something or someone did harm to Jaliek," Bell said Thursday.

Bell said police have followed up on about 150 leads but have found no clues. He said no reports have indicated a direct sighting of the missing boy.

"That makes me concerned as a law enforcement person that something out of the ordinary has happened," he said.

Bell said Rainwalker, who has lived in Greenwich for the past eight years, is a troubled child with an array of mental disorders, and is considered to be homicidal and suicidal. He is not currently on medication, according to Bell.

"We know that there's some serious psychological problems. He has some suicidal and homicidal tendencies, but I don't know if a 12-year-old can have a strong enough will to do that," Bell said.

Rainwalker had been at a respite home in Altamont for four days after threatening another child in his home-school group, according to Bell. He is not considered to be a danger to the public, however, Bell said.

Cambridge-Greenwich police, the New York State Police, the Washington County Sheriff's Department, the New York State Forest Rangers, the Lower Adirondack Search and Rescue and the Greenwich Fire Department have searched land in Greenwich unsuccessfully for several days. State Police helicopters and K-9 units were also brought in to help the search. Dive teams searched the Batten Kill underneath a bridge in Cambridge after police learned that he had threatened to jump before disappearing.

A command post up at the police station in Greenwich will continue to operate and any reported leads will be followed, Bell said.

"At this point there's still people doing a few leads. We've traced every lead as far as we could," Bell said. "I'm asking the people that own wood lots or fields, hunters that may be out there, to call us if they see anything suspicious," he said.

Bell said the FBI has offered its services and behavioral science experts have also been consulted. Several Web sites, including America's Most Wanted and the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children have been contacted and asked to post information about Rainwalker.

Several religious groups in the Greenwich area, such as the Twelve Tribes in Cambridge, were questioned about Rainwalker's disappearance after police learned that the boy has had contact with them in the past, according to Bell. No new information was obtained, however, Bell said.

Rainwalker is described as 5 feet 6 inches tall, 105 pounds, light brown skin, brown hair and green eyes. Rainwalker may be wearing blue jeans, a yellow fleece and black sneakers, according to police.

Any person with information regarding Rainwalker is asked to contact Cambridge/Greenwich Police Department at (518) 692-9332.

http://www.benningtonbanner.com/headlines/ci_7425010

[n/t]

Bell said Rainwalker, who has lived in Greenwich for the past eight years, is a troubled child with an array of mental disorders, and is considered to be homicidal and suicidal. He is not currently on medication, according to Bell.


Wonder why he isn't on medication.

Where's his mom?

[KindraLore]

I dont know but this puts off my hinky meter:

Bell said police have followed up on about 150 leads but have found no clues. He said no reports have indicated a direct sighting of the missing boy.

If he would have ran away, someone would of spotted him. Usually kids that run away at his age would go to a friends house or something. Its been a whole week and no sighting at all.

I wonder where the mother is as well. They mentioned the adoptive father but that is all.

Also, if he was diagnosed with mental disorders, why was he not on medication.

[n/t]

My hinky meter:

During the night Rainwalker placed pillows under his blankets and left a goodbye note, and has not been seen since, according to Bell.

I have a hard time believing a 12 year old would write a goodbye note.

[kaylynn]

Originally posted by n/t
My hinky meter:

During the night Rainwalker placed pillows under his blankets and left a goodbye note, and has not been seen since, according to Bell.

I have a hard time believing a 12 year old would write a goodbye note. [/*]

do you think this was an abduction, n/t??

[n/t]

Originally posted by kaylynn


do you think this was an abduction, n/t?? [/*]

There's not enough information yet to rule out abduction or foul play. I just found it odd that a 12 year old boy would write a goodbye note.

I'd like to know more about his mom and adoptive father. Why was this boy on medication? Why do they think he's homicidal or suicidal at such a young age? What kind of pyschological problems were diagnosed?

[KindraLore]

He said police have offered polygraph tests to both the boy's adoptive parents. The mother has completed the test, he said. The adoptive father has not, Bell said.




http://www.saratogian.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=19009561&BRD=1169&PAG=461&dept_id=602469&rfi=6

[n/t]

Originally posted by KindraLore





http://www.saratogian.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=19009561&BRD=1169&PAG=461&dept_id=602469&rfi=6 [/*]

Thanks for the update.

2 statements stood out.

1) He said police have offered polygraph tests to both the boy's adoptive parents. The mother has completed the test, he said. The adoptive father has not,Bell said.
He said no comment when asked to elaborate.


2) Rainwalker was last seen Nov. 1 and left an ambiguous note behind. Chief Bell described the boy as troubled, having had recent discipline problems.


I hope I'm wrong but I'm suspicious about the father. He's the last person to have seen Jaliek after he sent him to bed. He's the one who found the note and now he's refusing to take a polygraph test.

The boy had discipline problems. My feeling is Jaliek probably refused to go to bed and dad snapped.

All speculation on my part. Hope I'm wrong.

[KindraLore]

This bothers me too:

Neither McDonald nor Kerr would discuss the matter with a reporter who reached them by telephone Wednesday.

If your child is missing, the media is your friend. You need to get as much info out as you can about the child, over and over so that people can see him or her. Without the public's help, its hard to find someone that's missing.


http://www.poststar.com/articles/2007/11/08/news/local/13064861.txt

[n/t]

Kindra, any updates?

:rose:

[KindraLore]

Thanks for bumping N/T. Something is wrong here. Just a gut feeling. Reminds me of Colton Clark. That's one reason I have been following it.

Here is the most recent update I could find:

Hope Fades for Boy Missing in Upstate New York[/*]

The search for apparent runaway Jaliek Rainwalker in upstate New York has produced at least 150 leads, but no missing 12-year-old boy.

Rainwalker was last seen more than a week ago by his adopted father, Stephen Kerr, Cambridge-Greenwich Police Chief George Bell told ABC News.

Kerr reported the boy missing Nov. 2 after finding him gone from his bed at his adopted grandfather's house. Rainwalker, who suffers from mental illness, had stuffed clothes and pillows under the sheets and left behind a note, Kerr told police.

"He was sorry for all he did and he wouldn't be a problem anymore," Bell said, describing the contents of the note, which appeared to be written in Rainwalker's handwriting. "He said, 'Goodbye.'"

The note could be construed as a runaway or suicide note, Bell said, but more than 10 days after the boy's disappearance, the chief fears that Rainwalker has fallen victim to someone or something.

"In 30 years, a kid of 12 years old, and I don't care what his mindset is, he doesn't fall off the face of the world," Bell said. "We just don't have a runaway kid here."

Rainwalker had been in and out of foster care seven times before he was officially adopted by Kerr and his wife, Jocelyn McDonald, when he was 5. He recently had gotten in trouble for threatening a student and was sent to a respite home in Altamont, N.Y. Witnesses have placed Rainwalker and Kerr at a restaurant the Thursday night before he was reported missing as the two drove back to Greenwich from Altamont.

The search has included dive teams, K-9 units and helicopters. The New York State police, local sheriff's office, forest rangers and search and rescue teams have all assisted the Cambridge-Greenwich police in the effort.

Bell said that both the grandfather's house, as well as the house where Kerr and McDonald live, were searched as potential crime scenes. Police are not calling anyone a suspect in the disappearance, but Bell added that, at this point, "I can't rule anything out."

He also said that police offered polygraph tests to both Kerr and McDonald -- an offer that only McDonald accepted. "We've offered to have both parents take the polygraphs and the mother has taken a polygraph," Bell said. "That's where I'll end it." The family, Bell added, conducted its own search for the boy.

A message left by ABC News with a woman who identified herself as Kerr's sister was not returned.

The search area is focused on a rugged wilderness area along the banks of the Batten Kill River. Authorities also questioned several religious groups in the area, including the Twelve Tribes in Cambridge, a religious farming community near Rainwalker's home.

Citizens have reported seeing Rainwalker as far away as Saratoga and Albany, N.Y. While each lead takes time to investigate, Bell said they will continue to follow up on what he described as "good intent calls."

Rainwalker is not currently taking any medications, but should not be considered a danger to approach, police said. He is described as a light-skinned black boy, 5 feet 6 inches tall and weighing 105 pounds with brown hair and green eyes. He may be wearing blue jeans and a yellow fleece.

http://www.abcnews.go.com/US/Story?id=3853746&page=1

[n/t]

Hi Kindra,

Thanks for the update. I don't know the Colton Clark case. I'll look it up.

I agree. Something doesn't sound right about this case. The note is very bizarre. I hope they've checked it to ensure it is indeed Jaliek's handwriting.

Why hasn't the father taken the LDT? Why is the family doing their own search?



Hope he's found soon. :rose:

[darcie]

How terribly sad. So many things go on in this ole world anymore. It's heartbreaking.

Thinking of you, and praying that you are safe Jaliek.

[KindraLore]

http://wnyt.com/article/stories/S254934.shtml?cat=300

[txfemale45]

Why do people take in children with problems if they can't handle it...

[jtazzy]

Originally posted by n/t


Thanks for the update.

2 statements stood out.

1) He said police have offered polygraph tests to both the boy's adoptive parents. The mother has completed the test, he said. The adoptive father has not,Bell said.
He said no comment when asked to elaborate.


2) Rainwalker was last seen Nov. 1 and left an ambiguous note behind. Chief Bell described the boy as troubled, having had recent discipline problems.


I hope I'm wrong but I'm suspicious about the father. He's the last person to have seen Jaliek after he sent him to bed. He's the one who found the note and now he's refusing to take a polygraph test.

The boy had discipline problems. My feeling is Jaliek probably refused to go to bed and dad snapped.

All speculation on my part. Hope I'm wrong. [/*]

Something is not right here. I don't understand why the dad didn't take the polygraph test. If you have nothing to hide esp. when you have a missing child. Parents are always the first one's that they have to rule out....just standard practice.

[KindraLore]

Here is the latest on Jaliek. Yesterday they drained a pond at a near by golf course. Cadaver dogs showed lots of interest there. They still found nothing. Today they are doing a shoulder to shoulder grid search in the same area with the dogs.

Here is one article that gives some updates:

http://www.capitalnews9.com/content/headlines/?ArID=224982&SecID=33

[lillwild1]

Originally posted by n/t


Wonder why he isn't on medication.



I may be able to answer this one. My youngest daughter had bi-polar disorder and trying to find a dr that would let her take mads for it while she was under 18 was like trying to find a needle in a haystack. Because of the huge lawsuits by parents of suicide children the pharm companies and many dr.s now refuse to treat minors with meds. This had just the opposite effect on my daughter, because they would not give her lithium she rapid cycled into suicide. Having a mentally ill child these days is a nightmare when it comes to treatment, at least here anyway.

[Santa'sMom]

Originally posted by lillwild1


I may be able to answer this one. My youngest daughter had bi-polar disorder and trying to find a dr that would let her take mads for it while she was under 18 was like trying to find a needle in a haystack. Because of the huge lawsuits by parents of suicide children the pharm companies and many dr.s now refuse to treat minors with meds. This had just the opposite effect on my daughter, because they would not give her lithium she rapid cycled into suicide. Having a mentally ill child these days is a nightmare when it comes to treatment, at least here anyway. [/*]

lil, it isn't any better down here. if you find a dr. with enough sense to write a scrip for the needed meds you better stick with that doc. i am so sorry that they let your daughter down. it isn't your fault. people have this weird idea that mental illness suddenly happens after a person reaches the age of majority and it just ain't so. kids as young as 6 have committed or attempted suicide. it's such a horrible situation and as long as the media plays up the ant-medication hype, it won't get better any time soon. hugs to you and your remaining child/ren. i'm sure your daughter knew you loved her. when you are at the bottom, love alone sometimes can't reach you.

[lillwild1]

Originally posted by Santa'sMom


lil, it isn't any better down here. if you find a dr. with enough sense to write a scrip for the needed meds you better stick with that doc. i am so sorry that they let your daughter down. it isn't your fault. people have this weird idea that mental illness suddenly happens after a person reaches the age of majority and it just ain't so. kids as young as 6 have committed or attempted suicide. it's such a horrible situation and as long as the media plays up the ant-medication hype, it won't get better any time soon. hugs to you and your remaining child/ren. i'm sure your daughter knew you loved her. when you are at the bottom, love alone sometimes can't reach you.

Thank you for such sweet thoughts. When you have to deal with mental illness everyday you know that it can literally be a terminal illness if untreated.

[huskiki]

This area is only an hour away from where I live. I've heard some news coverage but not much so I just thought to look here. You would think that I would have done that first!

I'm a little suspicious of the goodbye note too. My daughter is 13 and if she were upset enough to attempt to runaway I would think that leaving a note would be the last thing she would do. I don't know, I hope I'm never placed in this situation.

I'm going to poke around to see if I can come up with any more info.

[huskiki]

NYS Police Missing Person link:

http://troopers.state.ny.us/Wanted_and_Missing/Missing/view.cfm?ID=7f61c37c-6be0-4c55-a905-9093db18218a

Article from today's Times Union (news paper serving the Captial District):

http://www.timesunion.com/AspStories/story.asp?storyID=638852

AMW:

http://www.amw.com/missing_children/brief.cfm?id=50696

ABC News with reference to farewell letter:

http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=3853746&page=1

[huskiki]

Today's news paper leaves me wondering exactly what happened to Jaliek. Please read the following:

http://timesunion.com/AspStories/story.asp?storyID=639553&category=REGIONOTHER&BCCode=REGIONOTHER&newsdate=11/16/2007

I do not understand how someone can UNadopt a child. There are many things that I quesetion when reading this article. Please share your thoughts.

[PinkPony]

Originally posted by huskiki
Today's news paper leaves me wondering exactly what happened to Jaliek. Please read the following:

http://timesunion.com/AspStories/story.asp?storyID=639553&category=REGIONOTHER&BCCode=REGIONOTHER&newsdate=11/16/2007

I do not understand how someone can UNadopt a child. There are many things that I quesetion when reading this article. Please share your thoughts. [/*]

The adopted grandfather's name is Graham Kerr. Isn't/wasn't there a chef on TV years back by the same name?

[omsk99]

Originally posted by huskiki
Today's news paper leaves me wondering exactly what happened to Jaliek. Please read the following:

http://timesunion.com/AspStories/story.asp?storyID=639553&category=REGIONOTHER&BCCode=REGIONOTHER&newsdate=11/16/2007

I do not understand how someone can UNadopt a child. There are many things that I quesetion when reading this article. Please share your thoughts. [/*]

I have to say I probably wouldn't be able to adjust to their "unusual" lifestyle, either! They have 5 children! Of course,m I don't judge, but it's understandable why Jaliek would not be happy there. Perhaps he did run away? If so, I hope he is somewhere warm and safe until he is found.

I wonder, if that was one of their own children, would they give him up as well??

[huskiki]

Originally posted by omsk99


I have to say I probably wouldn't be able to adjust to their "unusual" lifestyle, either! They have 5 children! Of course,m I don't judge, but it's understandable why Jaliek would not be happy there. Perhaps he did run away? If so, I hope he is somewhere warm and safe until he is found.

I wonder, if that was one of their own children, would they give him up as well?? [/*]

Hi omsk99,

I wonder that as well. How do you take on the responsibility of rasing a child and then give up when it's not working out. I would think that they would have known that he had some issues when he first came to live with them and yet they still decided to adopt him. If you can't tough it out then perhaps you should only be a foster home, kids have feelings too.

I do hope he ran away and will be found safe. Add to that, taken from that home.

[Biff]

No running water, no electricity & the kids are home schooled. They have no connection to the outside world. They showed the picture of their house (not the grandfather's house) on TV during the first couple of days he was missing. It looked no bigger than a tall garage. I don't know how 2 adults & five children live there.
I believe they have dogs & cats also.
The grandmother said "It's not poverty, but a desire to be ultra eco-friendly". What is worse? HAVING to bring children up in poverty or CHOOSING to bring children up in as if it were poverty?
Some of the other children are also adopted. I doubt that would have happened if the parents were already living this way. They children were already adopted by the time the parents chose this lifestyle.
These kids are going to resent their parents when the grow up and I wouldn't blame them. I wonder if they adopted children can be taken away from the permanently.

[Biff]

PinkPony--yes there is a chef by the same name but the grandfather is not him

[txfemale45]

How did this family pass to be adoptive parents..
and this dad does not pass my smell test...


Is there anything new to report? I think they will find him burried somewhere in the area....

[n/t]

"Kerr volunteered to take Rainwalker to the empty house at 11 Hill St. in Greenwich, which is owned by Kerr's father, Graham."

:confused: :confused: :confused:

[dearfriend]

http://www.capitalnews9.com/content/headlines/?ArID=225272&SecID=33

Hunters looking for missing Greenwich boy :(

[txfemale45]

For the ones asking why he wasn't on medication, look how the live. this is 2007 there is no reason not to have running water, electric, etc..

[n/t]

Originally posted by txfemale45
For the ones asking why he wasn't on medication, look how the live. this is 2007 there is no reason not to have running water, electric, etc.. [/*]

I don't understand how these parents were able to adopt this boy.

Did you notice my quoted post earlier?

"Kerr volunteered to take Rainwalker to the empty house at 11 Hill St. in Greenwich, which is owned by Kerr's father, Graham."


Kerr is the adoptive dad, right? He volunteered to take this boy to an empty house???? Is this for real? Am I misunderstanding something? Did he just leave him there?

[txfemale45]

n/t

This dad does not pass my smell test at all
the other kids should be put in a safe place while this is investigated..we all know what the outcome is going to be.

carol

i am typing with one hand and holding my grandson

[Santa'sMom]

Originally posted by n/t


I don't understand how these parents were able to adopt this boy.

Did you notice my quoted post earlier?

"Kerr volunteered to take Rainwalker to the empty house at 11 Hill St. in Greenwich, which is owned by Kerr's father, Graham."


Kerr is the adoptive dad, right? He volunteered to take this boy to an empty house???? Is this for real? Am I misunderstanding something? Did he just leave him there? [/*]

I have trouble seeing Protective Services letting people who live like that adopt a child but if they are clean, fed, and have a roof over their heads, maybe they can't keep them from adopting because of the lifestyle. Some children would thrive in that type of environment. Maybe it was felt that he was one of those kids. Were they living like that prior to adoption? or is this something new? As for the empty house, maybe he was so out-of-control that he had to be removed from the other kids for their safety? I was assuming that the father was staying at the empty house but after I read your post I have to wonder? I feel so bad for the poor kid. Mental issues are hard enough for adults, they are devastating for kids. Sometimes the meds work and sometimes they don't. There are a lot of things that we don't know about with the family so I am trying to with hold judgement but it doesn't look good. I hope Jaliek is only hiding and is ok but my heart doesn't tell me that that is the case. Prayers for Jaliek.

[huskiki]

Originally posted by n/t
"Kerr volunteered to take Rainwalker to the empty house at 11 Hill St. in Greenwich, which is owned by Kerr's father, Graham."

:confused: :confused: :confused: [/*]

Hi n/t!

That statement struck me as odd when I first read it and every time I read it. The only thing I can think of is that they were planning on bringing him to another one of those respite homes the next day and perhaps they didn't want to bring him home to be around the other kids.

I wish I had more details, I'm going to do some more poking around. I really would like to know if Jaliek knew that his adoptive parents were planning on un-adopting him. It would at least speak to his state of mind that evening.

[huskiki]

Article from today:

http://wnyt.com/article/stories/S260236.shtml?cat=300

[PinkPony]

Originally posted by Biff
PinkPony--yes there is a chef by the same name but the grandfather is not him [/*]

Thanks Biff.
That just jumped out at me when I read it. Wasn't sure if the chef Graham Kerr is still around or not.

[PinkPony]

Originally posted by huskiki
Article from today:

http://wnyt.com/article/stories/S260236.shtml?cat=300 [/*]

So the adoptive maternal grandparents are questioning whether the adoptive father has some involvement. Hmmmmmmm..........

[Santa'sMom]

ok. i have tried really hard to not be judgemental of the parents but the adoptive father is really beginning to sound a bit mentally unstable. how does one go from a missing child to spouting mlk? i understand what he was trying to say but if he honestly feels that way, why was he trying to "unadopt" the poor kid? add that to the way of Life and it gets scarier and scarier. my heart is breaking for that poor young man.

[Biff]

Apparently they built their house in East Greenwich 2-3 years ago. They used to live in the town of Salem. Maybe they weren't living this way when they adopted the other kids.

[huskiki]

Originally posted by Biff
Apparently they built their house in East Greenwich 2-3 years ago. They used to live in the town of Salem. Maybe they weren't living this way when they adopted the other kids. [/*]


Hi Biff!

Do you know if these adoptive parents were foster parents? If they had to go through the system I would think/hope that someone was checking in on them from time to time. Also, it's quite the process to adopt, it can take years in some cases. This behavior they say Jaliek displayed couldn't have appeared overnight, yet they still went through with the adoption. If someone is willing to go to such lengths I can't imagine them just washing their hands of a child because they have emotional, physical or mental problems.

I read that they (LE) were taking the weekend off from the search. I hope that isn't a bad sign.

[txfemale45]

If the adoptive grandparents don't buy the dads story neither should we... I am praying they find him soon and not another just missing child with no end. and these people continue to care for other childlren...

If you go to adopt a child with special needs don't take in 5.
use your energy to care for the one or two...they need all your energy and patience..

[Biff]

http://www.wten.com/Global/story.asp?S=7377234

"State Police say tonight that they are going to subpoena all taped television interviews of the parents of Jaliek Rainwalker"

[QUOTE]Elaine and Tom Person, who were caring for the boy in the hours before he went missing.
They say his father needs to come clean about what happened that night.

[Biff]

Hi huskiki
Some articles had said they were foster parents first-then they adopted

[Biff]

have a picture of Stephen Kerr's house on my computer. Can't figure out if I can insert it in here.

[Santa'sMom]

Wow. Tom and Elaine Person sound like awesome people. I am so glad that Jaliek has people like that backing and supporting him. I hope that Jaliek will be found safe and returned to them. Every kid needs someone to love them.

[huskiki]

Originally posted by Biff
have a picture of Stephen Kerr's house on my computer. Can't figure out if I can insert it in here. [/*]

I missed the house on the news, it's probably archived somewhere. It's not looking good for Jaliek :(

Where are you from Biff?

[Biff]

Greenwich - also talk in town that he used to live in Afganistan - could be just a rumor someone started.

[huskiki]

Afganistan? I haven't heard that one yet but I'll keep an eye out for it.

Here's this morning's latest:

http://timesunion.com/AspStories/story.asp?storyID=640221&category=FRONTPG&BCCode=HOME&newsdate=11/19/2007&TextPage=1

[huskiki]

Jaliek Latest: Greenwich Police to Start New Search This Week

Posted: Nov 18, 2007 09:13 PM EST




A local chief of police says another search for missing 12-year old Jaliek Rainwalker will start up again next week.

Greenwich Police Chief George Bell told NEWS10 that either this Monday or Tuesday he wants to search a five mile radius around 11 Hill Street, that's where the missing boy was last seen.

Bell says the Warren County Sheriff's Department's dive team may also head into the battenkill.

Rainwalker has been missing since November 1st, when his adoptive father Stephen Kerr said the two got into a fight at his father's home in Greenwich.

Kerr says Jaliek took off.

On Friday, NEWS10 learned that Jaliek's parents were going to dissolve their adoption.

http://www.wten.com/Global/story.asp?S=7379315

Is it just me? Shouldn't they have started this search before now?

[PinkPony]

Originally posted by Biff
http://www.wten.com/Global/story.asp?S=7377234



[QUOTE]Elaine and Tom Person, who were caring for the boy in the hours before he went missing.
They say his father needs to come clean about what happened that night. [/*]

The above link states that there was an altercation between Steve Kerr and Jaliek. I believe this is the first that I have seen this.
This information coupled with the fact that Steve Kerr hasn't taken a polygraph really raises the hair on my neck.jmo

[huskiki]

Originally posted by PinkPony


The above link states that there was an altercation between Steve Kerr and Jaliek. I believe this is the first that I have seen this.
This information coupled with the fact that Steve Kerr hasn't taken a polygraph really raises the hair on my neck.jmo [/*]

Yes, there have been some conflicting reports of what went on that night. First it was that Jaliek put pillows under the covers and left a farewell note now an altercation. Something isn't right.

What I haven't heard is any information on the note. Has it been verified that it was Jaliek's handwriting?

[txfemale45]

I read where LE said the writing looks like his writing but a short note I might could forge to look like someone elses writing.

[gorbal]

Sounds like the police don't think he is alive-

"I like to think that Jaliek is alive, and someone took him to parts unknown, but I don't believe that happened," said Bell. Without elaborating on what police are looking for, he said State Police investigators are expected to deliver subpoenas today for interviews with Kerr and other people connected to the case.

link (http://www.timesunion.com/AspStories/story.asp?storyID=640221&category=REGION&newsdate=11/19/2007)

I can't help but hope they are wrong, he has such a sweet face. I wonder how busy the roads are around Hill Street.

[huskiki]

Originally posted by gorbal
Sounds like the police don't think he is alive-



link (http://www.timesunion.com/AspStories/story.asp?storyID=640221&category=REGION&newsdate=11/19/2007)

I can't help but hope they are wrong, he has such a sweet face. I wonder how busy the roads are around Hill Street. [/*]

Hi gorbal,

I hope they're wrong too! I wish this story could get a national push of some sort. Thanksgiving is just a few days away and I would like to see Jaliek found safe and sound by then.

:rose: For Jaliek

[omsk99]

Originally posted by Biff
have a picture of Stephen Kerr's house on my computer. Can't figure out if I can insert it in here. [/*]

You can open as photobucket account, and upload it there for free. They you can just post the link to it here :seeya:

[omsk99]

Video where Steven Kerr speaks (and cries), with their house and the grandfather house from which Jaliek disappeared:

http://wnyt.com/article/stories/S255712.shtml?cat=300

[n/t]

Thanks for the updates everyone. I was suspicious about Stephen Kerr and even more so now. I think he may be involved with his disappearance.

Hope we get the answers soon.

For Jaliek :rose:

[huskiki]

Originally posted by n/t
Thanks for the updates everyone. I was suspicious about Stephen Kerr and even more so now. I think he may be involved with his disappearance.

Hope we get the answers soon.

For Jaliek :rose: [/*]

Good Morning n/t!

Even more disturbing was what was reported on last nights news at 11:00. They showed clips from the vigil I believe and there were some where Stephen was laughing. It was also reported that the adoptive parents haven't had contact with the police since Nov 4th or 5th I think they said. Jaliek went missing on Nov 1st, today is Nov 20th. How concerned are they?

http://wnyt.com/article/stories/S262097.shtml?cat=300

[gorbal]

Here is another new article about the foster family that had him from when he was 3 to when he was 7-

Link (http://www.timesunion.com/AspStories/story.asp?storyID=640516&category=REGION&newsdate=11/20/2007)

I know how troublesome kids can be, but you know right off if they are going to hurt your family life , it doesn't creep up on you after four years.

(long rant edited out)

Okay so I am becoming miss judgemental now...sorry.

[huskiki]

The search is going to VT tomorrow, the family was known to camp there. They are also talking about scaling down the search around Greenwich :(

[Santa'sMom]

Originally posted by gorbal
Here is another new article about the foster family that had him from when he was 3 to when he was 7-

Link (http://www.timesunion.com/AspStories/story.asp?storyID=640516&category=REGION&newsdate=11/20/2007)

I know how troublesome kids can be, but you know right off if they are going to hurt your family life , it doesn't creep up on you after four years.

(long rant edited out)

Okay so I am becoming miss judgemental now...sorry. [/*]

When a kid is only three you think that if you love him enough and offer him enough security he will be able to overcome his problems. You fall in love with the little tyke and go out of your way to try to fix things for him. Sometimes it works, and sometimes things continue to escalate. As the child grows, mentally and physically, new challenges and crises arise. In some cases, things get completely out of hand and the parent (foster, adoptive, or biological) has to realize that they can't help this child and, if there are other children involved, they may have to face the fact that this child is damaging the lives of the other children, and may even be endangering their lives. I am sure that it wasn't a hastily made decision for the foster parents in this case. It sounds like they really cared about this child but were unable to help him.
I've worked with severely emotionally disturbed kids a little and sometimes, we aren't able to help them with the knowledge we currently possess. I have seen 5 year old kids who couldn't be left alone with another child because they would seriously harm or kill the other child. Many of the kids can be helped with the right meds and intense therapies but some only seem to become more out of control the older they get. It's heartbreaking and you never give up hope but sometimes it just plain is.

[gorbal]

Sorry Santa's Mom, but after 4 years you don't "protect your family" from the child, they ARE your family. If he was so dangerous for them at that point he should perhaps, have gone to a facility of some sort, but not another "home" with another "family" that were just going to reject him again.

[gorbal]

I missed this-

On Saturday the boy's grandmother and the couple who watched Jaliek were speaking out. Elaine and Tom Person say they do think Steven Kerr may have resented that his adopted son had fun while visiting the couple. The Persons say Kerr told them Jaliek was out of control and asked the couple to watch the boy for a few days.

The Persons have watched Jaliek in the past and say every visit with him, including the most recent, has been wonderful. They say Jaliek was in great spirits when Kerr picked him up from their home on Nov. 1.

Link (http://wnyt.com/article/stories/S260589.shtml?cat=300)

I feel so sad for that poor kid.:(

[Santa'sMom]

Originally posted by gorbal
Sorry Santa's Mom, but after 4 years you don't "protect your family" from the child, they ARE your family. If he was so dangerous for them at that point he should perhaps, have gone to a facility of some sort, but not another "home" with another "family" that were just going to reject him again. [/*]

I completely agree with you. He should have been sent to a facility, assuming that a good facility could be found that had an opening. What I was trying to say was that he had been with them for four years so he would have been family but you can't always help the ones you love no matter how hard you try. I don't know why he was sent to live with another family. Maybe they had experience dealing with this type of situation? They really haven't said much about the last family other than they lived very primitively. There are a lot of unanswered questions, not the least of which is why wasn't he on any medication? To be honest, I will be very surprised if it turns out that the adoptive father didn't do something to him. But I can't try to judge any of his foster or adoptive parents. It isn't easy taking care of kids with severe anger issues. I'm not saying that I feel sorry for any of the parents. But I can't sit back and try to second judge them either. The one I do feel compassion for is Jaliek. The poor kid never stood a chance. Pregnant women who drink or do drugs while carrying a baby are very low on my list of people. Life is challenging enough without adding brain trauma from exposure to chemicals prior to birth.

[n/t]

Originally posted by RachelRose


I agree and disagree. I think a family who adopts a 3 year old, if after 4 years the child is actually a risk to the lives of the other family members, the decision can be made to get the child out of the home. But I agree, if he is that dangerous he needs to be in an institutionalized setting, not another family's home.

There are some puzzles to this story - he keeps being described in such dire ways - homocidal, suicidal, etc., and yet he keeps being tossed around in families, and I haven't yet read any specifics of his behavior that sound ominous.

Prayers he is found safe, but that doesn't sound likely. [/*]

What puzzles me is he wasn't on any medication. Why not? And like you say, why wasn't he put in an institution if he was a danger to himself and others?

Poor kid kept getting tossed around. It's inhumane, imo. We treat our pets better than this kid was treated. What is wrong with the system? Something ain't right.

I pray Jaliek is found safe and gets the medical help he needs, if the reports are true.

:rose:

[txfemale45]

Any news?

[huskiki]

Originally posted by txfemale45
Any news? [/*]

Hi txfemale45!

I have been sick all week and haven't been able to keep up (posts). As far as I knew this morning they were conducting a search in VT.

I also heard that the adoptive parents are not helping in the search :flamemad:

[Postergeist]

Originally posted by gorbal
Here is another new article about the foster family that had him from when he was 3 to when he was 7-

Link (http://www.timesunion.com/AspStories/story.asp?storyID=640516&category=REGION&newsdate=11/20/2007)

<snip> [/*]

From the link-

As the investigation moves forward, Kerr has stopped talking with police, who said they intend to issue subpoenas for videotaped copies of televised interviews with him and his wife.

....

I can't find anything more recent about this but it's mentioned as well in this link.

http://accordingtokim.wordpress.com/2007/11/19/subpoenas-in-the-jaliek-rainwalker-case/

It's not looking good for this poor kid, imo.

[huskiki]

Originally posted by Postergeist


From the link-

As the investigation moves forward, Kerr has stopped talking with police, who said they intend to issue subpoenas for videotaped copies of televised interviews with him and his wife.

....

I can't find anything more recent about this but it's mentioned as well in this link.

http://accordingtokim.wordpress.com/2007/11/19/subpoenas-in-the-jaliek-rainwalker-case/

It's not looking good for this poor kid, imo. [/*]

Hey Postergeist!

That's a link to my blog. lol I saw that I was getting some hits from courttv.com in my stats and was confused for a second.

I don't have any more information. I'm afraid this story is just going to fade away :(

[Postergeist]

Originally posted by huskiki


Hey Postergeist!

That's a link to my blog. lol I saw that I was getting some hits from courttv.com in my stats and was confused for a second.

I don't have any more information. I'm afraid this story is just going to fade away :( [/*]

Well hi ya huskiki! I found your link when googling Jaliek's name and thought you had a great article posted.

Seems like you have a nice blog as well, will have to check more of it out later. :)

I don't often post links to blogs if they tend to have other stuff or links that might be against TOS here, so yours looked a-okay from the story on this young boy.

It's commendable to mention him in any way to maybe get more people that might be able to come forward with any info at all in his case.

:seeya: Postie

[gorbal]

I feel a need to stick up for Jaliek when he isn't here, I note that all the good things said about him and the fact that many of the problems people had with him people had with me when I was younger. Thank god I wasn't in any foster homes- I really honestly enjoyed fighting when I was a little girl.

[omsk99]

A few other articles:

http://www.cbs6albany.com/news/rainwalker_1252670___article.html/boy_family.html

http://coltonleviclark.wordpress.com/2007/11/19/jaliek-rainwalker-state-police-to-subpoena-tv-interviews-of-jalieks-parents/


This is the latest I could find, dated 11/24:

http://www.fox23news.com/news/local/story.aspx?content_id=4af8f7fc-0*57-4be9-8be6-a212c80ecf29

[huskiki]

I haven't heard much news today. The weather here in upstate NY is cold and rainy. As more time passes, hope fades :(

If I'm feeling better by the weekend I think I'm going to take a drive up north to Greenwich. It would be nice to see first hand if there are any posters or signs up.

[Santa'sMom]

Originally posted by gorbal
I feel a need to stick up for Jaliek when he isn't here, I note that all the good things said about him and the fact that many of the problems people had with him people had with me when I was younger. Thank god I wasn't in any foster homes- I really honestly enjoyed fighting when I was a little girl. [/*]

Gorbal, that was very thoughtful of you. I hope that Jaliek is still around and will be able to see that so many people care about him so much. I also hope that the reason he wasn't on medication wasn't that his adopted father decided that he didn't need them and that it went against their "eco-friendly" lifestyle.

[gorbal]

Well, if he is as "homicidal and suicidal" as they say he is he should indeed have been on medication: but what people say about Jaliek make me wonder if that is the case.

I wonder what makes him"Homicidal?" They said he threatened someone; I wouldn't classify that as homicidal in someone his age.

[lillwild1]

When our Amy turned 13 she started showing serious signs of her bipolar disorder. It was heartbreaking to watch and there was little help. When she was manic she'd start fires, she had no impulse control, it was so hard to watch her suffer. The medication (if we could get a doctor to treat her pharmacutically) made her sick and she hated it. It was a constant strugle but that's the job, that's the deal you make when you have a child. Amy gave up her fight, she was just too tired and she felt hopeless and her pain got too great. Someone asked us at her funeral if it was a relief we didn't have to deal with the pain of her disease anymore. Unbelievable, it wasn't a relief, the joy of her life, of her existance far outweighed whatever we went through. She suffered, we could only watch and be there and do everything we could.

You don't give up on your children, you fight with them and for them. That's your job as a parent, that's your gift, to get to try to help, to have those days when you succeed. Even if, in the end, you couldn't help them, it was a gift from god to have her in my life. We will always be heartbroken, we will always miss her and we will always wish for the bad days with her rather than suffer the good days without her.

[huskiki]

Search for Jaliek Continues as FBI Gets Involved Weds.

Posted: Nov 28, 2007 11:19 AM EST


There are some new developments in the search for 12-year-old Jaliek Rainwalker, the Washington County boy who was last seen November 1st.

FBI planes and helicotopers are heading up from New York City Wednesday, and will be eyes in the sky for searchers on the ground.

They are tracking the area along the Hudson River, near Greenwich, in hopes of finding any sign of Jaliek.

They will also be searching by area the Battenkill River and the area around it. That area is located near Jaliek's grandfather's house, where the boy was last seen.

http://www.wten.com/Global/story.asp?S=7420581

[omsk99]

The link doesn't work? :shrug:

[huskiki]

I tried to post a link here twice but for some reason it's getting cut off. I'll just post the article (it's from www.fox23news.com).

Family of Missing Boy Offering Reward

An FBI helicopter circles the waters of the Battenkill River on Wednesday morning while missing person posters swirl around the Greenwich home where 12-year-old Jaliek Rainwalker was last reportedly seen on November 1st.

"It's been like living in a surreal movie and it's been so unbelievably painful and my eight-year-old says it the best because he says he feels pulls apart inside," says Jocelyn McDonald, the boy's adoptive mother.

McDonald tells FOX23 News that her father put up $25,000 in reward money for any information that leads them to Jaliek.

That reward will diminish in $5,000 increments starting January 1st if it is not claimed.

The family tells us they're doing this to discourage anyone with information from holding out, hoping that the reward increases.

She says her family wanted to offer a reward two weeks ago but investigators urged them to wait.

Police tell us offering a cash reward usually generates false leads.

McDonald and her family members decided the time had come to offer a reward because search efforts still haven't located the missing boy.

Cambridge-Greenwich Police Chief George Bell says, "The runaway theory, the suicide theory, having the criminal aspect of it all...nothing's been eliminated some four weeks later."

Chief Bell says Wednesday may be the last day of major search efforts.

Jaliek's adoptive father, Stephen Kerr, still hasn't taken a lie detector test.

McDonald, who has submitted to a polygraph test, says the only reason that suspicion has landed on her family is because investigators still don't have any clear leads on what happened to Jaliek.

Other aspects of the missing boy's family have also been criticized since his disappearance.

The East Greenwich home where McDonald and Kerr live with their family doesn't have any indoor plumbing and the only electricity comes from a generator.

McDonald says her family gets by just fine under the admittedly sparse conditions.

She tells FOX23 News that the family moved to the rural location so that the children would have a bigger backyard.

"Our intention is not necessarily to always live without running water and electricity but to have a smaller footprint as we can on the earth," says McDonald.

In spite of the scrutiny from the public, she holds out hope for her son.

She believes Jaliek ran away and suspects he may have fallen in with street gang members in Albany.

"What I want to see happen is that Jaliek calls and says, 'I want to come home.'"

McDonald is urging her adopted son to call 1-800-RUNAWAY; she says she's left Jaliek a recorded message on that phone line.

[huskiki]

Originally posted by omsk99
The link doesn't work? :shrug: [/*]

Hi omsk99! I tried twice, then just posted the article. Technology is great when it works. lol

[gorbal]

Originally posted by lillwild1
When our Amy turned 13 she started showing serious signs of her bipolar disorder. It was heartbreaking to watch and there was little help. When she was manic she'd start fires, she had no impulse control, it was so hard to watch her suffer. The medication (if we could get a doctor to treat her pharmacutically) made her sick and she hated it. It was a constant strugle but that's the job, that's the deal you make when you have a child. Amy gave up her fight, she was just too tired and she felt hopeless and her pain got too great. Someone asked us at her funeral if it was a relief we didn't have to deal with the pain of her disease anymore. Unbelievable, it wasn't a relief, the joy of her life, of her existance far outweighed whatever we went through. She suffered, we could only watch and be there and do everything we could.

You don't give up on your children, you fight with them and for them. That's your job as a parent, that's your gift, to get to try to help, to have those days when you succeed. Even if, in the end, you couldn't help them, it was a gift from god to have her in my life. We will always be heartbroken, we will always miss her and we will always wish for the bad days with her rather than suffer the good days without her. [/*]

Thank you for sharing your story; I'm so sorry for your loss.

It reminds me of my autistic brother, I'm so glad he turned out alright.

[omsk99]

Originally posted by huskiki


Hi omsk99! I tried twice, then just posted the article. Technology is great when it works. lol [/*]

Thank you, huskiki! :seeya:

[omsk99]

The family that was going to "unadopt" Jaliek is offering $25,000?? Maybe that's because they know what happened and know they won't have to part with the money!

[n/t]

When is the "unadopted" father going to take the lie detector test? :mad:

[omsk99]

Originally posted by n/t
When is the "unadopted" father going to take the lie detector test? :mad: [/*]

Looks like he won't, otherwise he would have done that by now! His wife did it, but then it wasn't her who saw Jaliek last :mad:

[huskiki]

Originally posted by omsk99
The family that was going to "unadopt" Jaliek is offering $25,000?? Maybe that's because they know what happened and know they won't have to part with the money! [/*]

Strange isn't it? I think it's the family of the adoptive mother who are offering up the reward. I believe they are just as suspicious of Stephen Kerr as all of us are.

[huskiki]

Originally posted by omsk99


Looks like he won't, otherwise he would have done that by now! His wife did it, but then it wasn't her who saw Jaliek last :mad: [/*]

I don't think he'll be taking one either. At one point he was claiming he couldn't take one due to medical reasons. The mother took one but I don't think they've released the results.

[txfemale45]

Any news?

I think the dad is is to blame

[huskiki]

Originally posted by txfemale45
Any news?

I think the dad is is to blame [/*]

Nothing new directly related to Jaliek but I did find this:

Body found in Kinderhook
Columbia County officials are working to identify a body found in an abandoned house in Kinderhook. Preservationists discovered the body Friday at a house on County Route 21, just off 9H. They were touring the building, hoping to have it placed on a historic registry. An autopsy is planned and police are also looking to see if the remains belong to someone from any open missing person cases.

This would be about 2 hours south of Greenwich, maybe a little further. Not out of the relm of possibility if you ask me.

[huskiki]

Originally posted by huskiki


Nothing new directly related to Jaliek but I did find this:

Body found in Kinderhook
Columbia County officials are working to identify a body found in an abandoned house in Kinderhook. Preservationists discovered the body Friday at a house on County Route 21, just off 9H. They were touring the building, hoping to have it placed on a historic registry. An autopsy is planned and police are also looking to see if the remains belong to someone from any open missing person cases.

This would be about 2 hours south of Greenwich, maybe a little further. Not out of the relm of possibility if you ask me. [/*]

Scrap that, it was a woman's body.

[huskiki]

The adoptive father speaks out.

http://www.capitalnews9.com/content/headlines/?SecID=33&ArID=226319

[omsk99]

Originally posted by huskiki
The adoptive father speaks out.

http://www.capitalnews9.com/content/headlines/?SecID=33&ArID=226319 [/*]

~snipped:

"When asked if he had anything to do with Jaliek's disappearance, Kerr said he had no comment."

:eek: Why not say no, if he didn't have anything to do with the disappearance!!

[gorbal]

Originally posted by omsk99


~snipped:

"When asked if he had anything to do with Jaliek's disappearance, Kerr said he had no comment."

:eek: Why not say no, if he didn't have anything to do with the disappearance!! [/*]

If you were asked over and over again the same question you might say the same thing. He might feel guilty about the fight he had with Jaliek.

However everytime I try to think of reasons someone might NOT be guilty, they turn out TO be guilty. This sounds like it might be one of those times, but I really hope not.

Interesting that his father thinks he might be with some 16 year old friends in the city...where would he stay? I heard in some places cops avoid searching teen shelters to ensure that teens have a safe place to go, is this true?

If they hit the shelter already I would say he was more likely in an abandoned building than the woods. (If he is alive)

[huskiki]

Originally posted by gorbal


If you were asked over and over again the same question you might say the same thing. He might feel guilty about the fight he had with Jaliek.

However everytime I try to think of reasons someone might NOT be guilty, they turn out TO be guilty. This sounds like it might be one of those times, but I really hope not.

Interesting that his father thinks he might be with some 16 year old friends in the city...where would he stay? I heard in some places cops avoid searching teen shelters to ensure that teens have a safe place to go, is this true?

If they hit the shelter already I would say he was more likely in an abandoned building than the woods. (If he is alive) [/*]

I really hope that Jaliek is alive and well. If he is with these teenagers then I would think that he would have been spotted by now. Albany is the capital of NY but it's not that big where they couldn't find a missing boy if they had an idea who he might be with.

The article says that the "father" posted some posters in Albany, I would be interested to see where they are. Also there are many towns surrounding Albany, such as Colonie, Guilderland and even Altamont which is where the respite house is that Jaliek last visited.

If you ask me, the local news could do a much better job of covering this story. I have posted a little bit about Jaliek's story on Greta's blog, hoping that someone will pick it up.

[huskiki]

It seems as if LE has given up. I found this article from last Thursday:

Police: Search for Jaliek Rainwalker Over
CBS 6 Albany
November 29, 2007 - 3:21PM

Police plan to end their day-to-day search for missing Greenwich boy Jaliek Rainwalker, CBS 6 has learned.

Greenwich police chief George Bell said crews will search one more spot in the Battenkill Friday to follow up on a neighbor's report of a "square-looking object" floating in the river.

Police have already viewed the area from helicopter, but they will re-examine the area tomorrow by boat. The water is currently too high to execute a search, Bell said.

After tomorrow's effort, however, unless police receive a credible tip, the planned searches for 12-year-old Rainwalker are over.

Rainwalker has been missing since Nov. 1. His case has held local attention since it was first reported, due in large part to the boy's troubled history and his complex family background.

http://www.cbs6albany.com/news/police_1252860___article.html/search_rainwalker.html

So that's it? Unless they get a reliable tip they are finished searching for Jaliek. :flamemad:

[omsk99]

That's so sad :( I hope no one (father?) is getting away with crime.

Hope Jaliek indeed ran away and will eventually contact someone :rose:

[huskiki]

http://www.capitalnews9.com/content/top_stories/default.asp?ArID=226608

Search resumes for Jaliek Rainwalker

MIDDLE FALLS, N.Y. -- The search continues this morning for 12-year-old Jaliek Rainwalker of Greenwich.

A hydrological dam will be drained today in Middle Falls, not far from Rainwalker's house.

Rainwalker was last seen on November 1st with his adoptive father, Stephen Kerr. Kerr claims Jaliek left a note saying he didn't want to be a burden on the family.

Police are calling this a recovery mission and have only been searching during the day.

[txfemale45]

Did Kerr every take a polygraph test... I don't think he will because he knows he will not pass.....

I just pray he did not suffer much..

:rose: For Jaliek

[huskiki]

Here's another article from the Times Union:

http://www.timesunion.com/AspStories/story.asp?storyID=644901

I hope they find Jaliek soon. :rose:

[huskiki]

Originally posted by txfemale45
Did Kerr every take a polygraph test... I don't think he will because he knows he will not pass.....

I just pray he did not suffer much..

:rose: For Jaliek [/*]

Hi txfemale45!

To my knowledge he never took a polygraph. At one point he stated that it was due to medical reasons. I'm not quite sure what medical condition would prevent him from taking a polygraph.

[txfemale45]

Huskiki

His medical condition is he knows he will not pass....

[huskiki]

Originally posted by txfemale45
Huskiki

His medical condition is he knows he will not pass.... [/*]

Yes, I think that would qualify! I can't believe the nerve of this guy. :flamemad:

[txfemale45]

This poor boy the number of people that let him down just kills me
and they way they live how were they able to adopt all these kids...

and I know I could not take care of a child with problems and there should be a number of how many kids you can adopt when there is problems with the health or mental issues...

[huskiki]

Originally posted by txfemale45
This poor boy the number of people that let him down just kills me
and they way they live how were they able to adopt all these kids...

and I know I could not take care of a child with problems and there should be a number of how many kids you can adopt when there is problems with the health or mental issues... [/*]

I couldn't agree more. There should be rules/laws in place in situations like these. Maybe children with problems should go to homes where there aren't any other children. That way they can get all the attention that they need. At least then you know they have a chance of a good quality of care.

And hello ...to a house that has running water and electricity!

[txfemale45]

I agree and alot of these people take in all these kids for the money they don't do it because they want to help and give the child all the love and attention they need....
And I thought to adopt you had to be checked out on your living conditions and had to go through a long process..

[HandInCookieJar]

I think most of the problem though, is that very few families are interested in adopting older kids. It isn't like with newborns where there are waiting lists and the angencies have lots of placements to choose from.

[huskiki]

Originally posted by HandInCookieJar
I think most of the problem though, is that very few families are interested in adopting older kids. It isn't like with newborns where there are waiting lists and the angencies have lots of placements to choose from. [/*]

It's true that many people would prefer a baby but there has to be people out there who just want to help a child. Plus the system makes it so difficult to adopt babies and toddlers because they have to give the birth parents every chance they can before they deem them unfit. Some of the things that I've heard from foster parents have scared me.

[omsk99]

I am glad they resumed the search, but the methods they are using doesn't leave much hope they think Jaliek is alive :(

[huskiki]

Additional information.

I'm not looking to promote anything here but on the second page of this thread there's a link to my personal blog. If anyone is interested in additional information, mainly in the form of some comments I have received, feel free to check that out.

[omsk99]

Originally posted by huskiki
Additional information.

I'm not looking to promote anything here but on the second page of this thread there's a link to my personal blog. If anyone is interested in additional information, mainly in the form of some comments I have received, feel free to check that out. [/*]

Which link, huskiki?

[HandInCookieJar]

Originally posted by omsk99


Which link, huskiki? [/*]

http://accordingtokim.wordpress.com/2007/11/19/subpoenas-in-the-jaliek-rainwalker-case/

I was looking for it too. :)

I live in New York and this case has gotten almost no local attention. :(

[omsk99]

Originally posted by HandInCookieJar


http://accordingtokim.wordpress.com/2007/11/19/subpoenas-in-the-jaliek-rainwalker-case/

I was looking for it too. :)

I live in New York and this case has gotten almost no local attention. :( [/*]

Thank you, HandInCookieJar! :seeya:

It's such a sad case, with all the strange twists (no electricity or running water house, parents "unadopting" a child etc), strange and bad it doesn't have much coverage!

[huskiki]

Originally posted by HandInCookieJar


http://accordingtokim.wordpress.com/2007/11/19/subpoenas-in-the-jaliek-rainwalker-case/

I was looking for it too. :)

I live in New York and this case has gotten almost no local attention. :( [/*]

Where are you HandInCookieJar (love that name)? I live near Albany and I'm surprise by how little attention this case has gotten.

[HandInCookieJar]

Originally posted by huskiki (love that name)[/*] Thanks! ;)

I live on Staten Island and haven't seen anything at all about Jaliek on the news or in our local paper.

[huskiki]

Finally, perhaps, some good news.

http://timesunion.com/AspStories/story.asp?storyID=645262&category=REGIONOTHER&BCCode=LOCAL&newsdate=12/7/2007

[huskiki]

Additional links:

http://www.poststar.com/articles/2007/12/06/news/local/13146841.txt

http://www.poststar.com/articles/2007/12/06/news/latest/doc4758c04e8c2d0792610310.txt

http://www.poststar.com/articles/2007/12/07/news/local/13150491.txt

[huskiki]

One more for now ...I probably should be working :D

http://www.capitalnews9.com/content/top_stories/default.asp?ArID=226698

[Mandysmom]

Just checking in for updates.

Jaliek
:wreath:

[gorbal]

The contents of Jalieks note makes me want to cry-

Dear Everybody, I am sorry for everything. I won't be a bother anymore. Goodbye, Jaliek

Link (http://fox23-121.blogspot.com/2007/11/fox23-second-day-of-mass-volunteer.html)

I wonder how much effort has been put into searching the Albany area.

There are so many runaway children in cities around the US; one wonders if they put as much effort into searching city streets as they put into searching woods and water for bodies. (You certainly see more press on draining rivers and dams anyway.)

[omsk99]

Originally posted by huskiki
One more for now ...I probably should be working :D

http://www.capitalnews9.com/content/top_stories/default.asp?ArID=226698 [/*]

Quote from this article by Kerr:

"I was not involved in his disappearance," he said. "I have nothing to hide."

Right, then why not take a polygraph?!

[omsk99]

Originally posted by gorbal
The contents of Jalieks note makes me want to cry-



Link (http://fox23-121.blogspot.com/2007/11/fox23-second-day-of-mass-volunteer.html)

I wonder how much effort has been put into searching the Albany area.

There are so many runaway children in cities around the US; one wonders if they put as much effort into searching city streets as they put into searching woods and water for bodies. (You certainly see more press on draining rivers and dams anyway.) [/*]

Has it been proved without a doubt Jaliek wrote it?

[gorbal]

I don't think it has been proven either way. The police seem to doubt it...which doesn't sound good for Jaliek.:(

But if it hasn't been proven NOT to be Jaliek's writing, so I hope they give as much effort into looking into where runaways go-recovering him safe should be a priority in this cold weather.

[omsk99]

Originally posted by gorbal
I don't think it has been proven either way. The police seem to doubt it...which doesn't sound good for Jaliek.:(

But if it hasn't been proven NOT to be Jaliek's writing, so I hope they give as much effort into looking into where runaways go-recovering him safe should be a priority in this cold weather. [/*]

ITA. I hope he did run away to Albany, but it said that lead went cold.

[MysteryMachine]

:rose: For Jaliek....let today be the day you are found.

[huskiki]

Originally posted by omsk99


ITA. I hope he did run away to Albany, but it said that lead went cold. [/*]

IMO. If he did run away to Albany I truly believe that someone would have seen him by now. Although it's the Capital, it's not very big, around 80,000 people. There is a homeless situation in Albany and there are people who assist people on the street.

Also, it's been below freezing all week. If Jaliek is out there I do hope he's inside.

[Mandysmom]

:rose:

[txfemale45]

How bad would your homelife have to be to prefer living on the streets?


I just can't imagine

[huskiki]

Originally posted by txfemale45
How bad would your homelife have to be to prefer living on the streets?


I just can't imagine [/*]

Hey txfemale45,

I would say it would have to be pretty bad.

Nothing to report since Friday. We're getting bad weather tonight which will only make searching that much more difficult.

For Jaliek :rose:

[snoopyone]

Interesting article regarding former foster parents.


"On Wednesday, NEWS10 sat down with missing 12-year-old Jaliek Rainwalker's adoptive parents and received their account of what happened the night the boy disappeared. Three days later, The News Statopm heard from former foster parents of Jaliek, who say that first interview has led them to believe the boy was met with foul play.

"He was as bright as could be. As soon as he could read, he read a book a day. I mean, he was amazing," says Jodi Schoen, Jaliek's former foster parent.

However, they say this amazing boy had a dark side.

Jodi and Larry Schoen were the foster parents of Jaliek from the time he was three until he was seven. The pictures they still treasure show a happy boy, but one thing they do not reveal, how the child - born addicted to crack and who lived in five homes before theirs - would fly into violent, hour-long rages.

"He said I hate you," Jodi Schoen said of the rages, "And the look and the feel was if he was older he could have killed me,"

It was after they say Jaliek attacked their youngest daughter that the Schoens, who had promised to adopt him, decided he had to leave.

Jodi Schoen said, "This man sitting next to me (Larry Schoen) would never hurt a fly and he knew that when Jaliek was seven he knew he had to go or he could end up in jail,"

That is when Jaliek was sent to live with Stephen Kerr and his wife Jocelyn McDonald, and their four other children in Greenwich. Almost immediately though, the Schoens say they felt it may have been a bad placement.

Seeing NEWS10's exclusive interview with Kerr and McDonald has made them very upset, especially because a few outbursts Kerr had made during it. They also say they have found inconsistencies with what they saw on an early visit to their home - they say Jaliek was locked in his room; Jocelyn McDonald said Social Services investigated the claims and found no locks on their bedroom doors.

In all, the Schoens say they do not regret sending Jaliek back to the state, but feel he did not run away as Kerr and McDonald believe.

"In your heart and your gut, what do you think has happened?" Jodi Schoen asks, "I don't believe that he is on this earth anymore and I pray that we can find his body; because he came in this world in such a terrible way, and he went out in a terrible way."

http://www.wten.com/Global/story.asp?S=7471400

Poor kid sounds like he never had a chance :rose:

[huskiki]

Originally posted by snoopyone
Interesting article regarding former foster parents.


"On Wednesday, NEWS10 sat down with missing 12-year-old Jaliek Rainwalker's adoptive parents and received their account of what happened the night the boy disappeared. Three days later, The News Statopm heard from former foster parents of Jaliek, who say that first interview has led them to believe the boy was met with foul play.

"He was as bright as could be. As soon as he could read, he read a book a day. I mean, he was amazing," says Jodi Schoen, Jaliek's former foster parent.

However, they say this amazing boy had a dark side.

Jodi and Larry Schoen were the foster parents of Jaliek from the time he was three until he was seven. The pictures they still treasure show a happy boy, but one thing they do not reveal, how the child - born addicted to crack and who lived in five homes before theirs - would fly into violent, hour-long rages.

"He said I hate you," Jodi Schoen said of the rages, "And the look and the feel was if he was older he could have killed me,"

It was after they say Jaliek attacked their youngest daughter that the Schoens, who had promised to adopt him, decided he had to leave.

Jodi Schoen said, "This man sitting next to me (Larry Schoen) would never hurt a fly and he knew that when Jaliek was seven he knew he had to go or he could end up in jail,"

That is when Jaliek was sent to live with Stephen Kerr and his wife Jocelyn McDonald, and their four other children in Greenwich. Almost immediately though, the Schoens say they felt it may have been a bad placement.

Seeing NEWS10's exclusive interview with Kerr and McDonald has made them very upset, especially because a few outbursts Kerr had made during it. They also say they have found inconsistencies with what they saw on an early visit to their home - they say Jaliek was locked in his room; Jocelyn McDonald said Social Services investigated the claims and found no locks on their bedroom doors.

In all, the Schoens say they do not regret sending Jaliek back to the state, but feel he did not run away as Kerr and McDonald believe.

"In your heart and your gut, what do you think has happened?" Jodi Schoen asks, "I don't believe that he is on this earth anymore and I pray that we can find his body; because he came in this world in such a terrible way, and he went out in a terrible way."

http://www.wten.com/Global/story.asp?S=7471400

Poor kid sounds like he never had a chance :rose: [/*]

I agree with you snoopyone. His life was doomed from conception.

[huskiki]

Jaliek's respite family speaks out
Updated: 12/9/2007 11:54 PM
By: Jessica Mokhiber

ALTAMONT, N.Y. -- "I believe that Stephen knows where Jaliek is. I believe he harmed Jaliek. I don't think he meant to. I don't think he planned to. I think he got very angry,” said Elaine Person.

Some of the last people to see Jaliek Rainwalker, 12, before he disappeared were Elaine and Tom Person. After Jaliek made threatening remarks to a young child at home his adoptive parents Stephen Kerr and Joceyln McDonald, sent him to stay with the Person's for six days. When adoptive parents have needed help, the Persons provide a respite home. For the first time, they're talking publicly about what they think happened to Jaliek.

"One of the things Jaliek said, in talking about his father, he said when he got mad, he (Stephen) didn't know what he was doing,” said Person.

The Person's acknowledged Jaliek's psychological issues and violent outbursts, but they say they fell in love with him when they met him five years ago.

"He was beautiful, sweet, charming and intelligent and while he was with us, he was very well behaved,” said Person.

"He was great with me. He appreciated everything, like driving in the front seat and I even let him have controls of the music. Boy was he happy. He loved music,” said Tom Person.

Steven Kerr was in Albany last weekend posting a reward for Jaliek, saying he thought it was possible Jaliek ran away with some older teenagers. The Persons say they do not believe Jaliek is with an Albany gang. They also say they don't believe he would commit suicide because he was looking forward to staying with them again and that on the next visit Tom was going to bring Jaliek to look at skateboards.

"How can a child I haven't seen for five years, I say to myself, I've had him six days. Just how come it hurts so much? It really bothers me. It was just six days I spent. I hadn't seen him in five years and he reached me. This was a special kid,” said Person.

http://www.capitalnews9.com/content/headlines/?SecID=33&ArID=226919

[huskiki]

Hi everyone! Not much in the way of news but Sasha has posted a link to a video of Jaliek's adoptive parents.

For Jaliek :rose:

[Roux]

Originally posted by huskiki
Hi everyone! Not much in the way of news but Sasha has posted a link to a video of Jaliek's adoptive parents.

For Jaliek :rose: [/*]

I haven't been following Jaliek's thread, just read a few posts, but watched the video. Those people came across as so arrogant and egotistical. They give me the creeps and I would not let my Shelties stay with them, what's more a child.

[huskiki]

Originally posted by Roux


I haven't been following Jaliek's thread, just read a few posts, but watched the video. Those people came across as so arrogant and egotistical. They give me the creeps and I would not let my Shelties stay with them, what's more a child. [/*]

I'm trying to listen to this now ...it keeps breaking up. I am glad to hear that their other kids were taken away. geesh

[Roux]

Originally posted by huskiki


I'm trying to listen to this now ...it keeps breaking up. I am glad to hear that their other kids were taken away. geesh [/*]

It was a very bad audio, and I wonder why the interviewer had no mic? Could barely hear her questions.

[huskiki]

Originally posted by Roux


It was a very bad audio, and I wonder why the interviewer had no mic? Could barely hear her questions. [/*]

I know, it's painful to get through. First because of the audio, second because of these two sorry excuses for parents. The "mother" talks about the fear kids with RAD have about being abandoned one more time. And what were they about to do ....unadopt him! :flamemad:

[gorbal]

Originally posted by huskiki


IMO. If he did run away to Albany I truly believe that someone would have seen him by now. Although it's the Capital, it's not very big, around 80,000 people. There is a homeless situation in Albany and there are people who assist people on the street.

Also, it's been below freezing all week. If Jaliek is out there I do hope he's inside. [/*]

A friend of mine ran away and lived with a friend and her family, I have heard of other children that were kidnapped by pimps (the average prostitute startes at 13,-no joke)-these kids would not be on the streets to find.

Are their any communes or intentional communities in Greenwich? Anyone know the area? J/C

[huskiki]

Originally posted by gorbal


A friend of mine ran away and lived with a friend and her family, I have heard of other children that were kidnapped by pimps (the average prostitute startes at 13,-no joke)-these kids would not be on the streets to find.

Are their any communes or intentional communities in Greenwich? Anyone know the area? J/C [/*]

I'm not familiar with Greenwich. I live 5 minutes from Albany and have lived here all my life. It is possible that Jaliek ran away, anything is possible. The father stated he hung posters up in various cities. I drive all around this area and have yet to see one. Also, he didn't mention hanging any in the City where the train station is. If he ran away, it's possible that someone could have helped him and perhaps he could have traveled by train. Just a thought.

At this point I would be happy to find out that Jaliek ran away. And if he did I would also offer up a big appology to the parents on my blog. Do I think this is the case, no. But I have been asking to be proved wrong.

[huskiki]

Another day with no news from the paper at least. I do have news from my blog. Plans are in the works for a "Light the Night for Jaliek" on Sunday December 23rd from 6:30pm-7:30pm in Greenwich, NY. I don't know if anyone here is local enough to attend but if you are I hope that you are able to go. I plan on attending myself, it's the least I can do.

[huskiki]

Jaliek's grandmother, Barbara Reeley, speaks out.

http://www.capitalnews9.com/content/top_stories/default.asp?ArID=227198

[omsk99]

Originally posted by huskiki
Jaliek's grandmother, Barbara Reeley, speaks out.

http://www.capitalnews9.com/content/top_stories/default.asp?ArID=227198 [/*]

Thank you for the article.

~snip

"Stephen has anger issues. I think it was three years ago, Jaliek was doing some repetitive behavior and Stephen grabbed him by the neck and dragged him out the back door and dunked him in the creek and if my daughter had not been there, I don't know what else he would have done to him."


:eek: This really doesn't sound good Jaliek

:rose:

[huskiki]

Originally posted by omsk99


Thank you for the article.

~snip

"Stephen has anger issues. I think it was three years ago, Jaliek was doing some repetitive behavior and Stephen grabbed him by the neck and dragged him out the back door and dunked him in the creek and if my daughter had not been there, I don't know what else he would have done to him."


:eek: This really doesn't sound good Jaliek

:rose: [/*]

Hi omsk99!

No it doesn't sound good for Jaliek :(
I do not understand how his wife can stand by him knowing what he has done in the past. They say love is blind but is it also dumb?

[txfemale45]

When you adopt does the state check you out I don't know how they passed.. Anger issues, living conditions

I don't think you should be able to have but one or two children with problems the stress level is too much

[huskiki]

Originally posted by txfemale45
When you adopt does the state check you out I don't know how they passed.. Anger issues, living conditions

I don't think you should be able to have but one or two children with problems the stress level is too much [/*]

Hi txfemale45!

One could only hope that there is some sort of approval process to adopt. I know Jaliek was in the foster care system so I'm not sure what their process is. I know that if the biological parents are in the picture it's next to impossible to adobt. They give the biological parents all the chances they can to get the child back with them. This includes parenting classes, paid daycare and home visits and many times these people shouldn't have kids. IMO

[txfemale45]

I really really hate to say or think this but 10 years ago I did not beleive in forced sterilization....

[Roux]

Originally posted by txfemale45
I really really hate to say or think this but 10 years ago I did not beleive in forced sterilization.... [/*]

the thought has crossed my mind the past couple of days as I've been reading the threads -- Ebony, Riley, Rowan, the baby (sorry I cant remember her name) mother put in diaper box. All these innocent children! What can society do when people bring children into the world and starve them, beat them, rape and murder them. We issue a license to drive evidencing knowledge of rules of the road, safety, etc., but no license has to be obtained to raise a child.

[huskiki]

I missed this articl from a few days ago:

http://www.wten.com/Global/story.asp?s=7470822

Also, I would like to remind those who are in the area of Greenwich, NY that there will be a "Light the Night for Jaliek" next Sunday, December 23rd from 6:30-7:30 in Greenwich. I believe it will be at the VFW but I will get back to you with more details as I have them.

[gorbal]

Originally posted by Roux


the thought has crossed my mind the past couple of days as I've been reading the threads -- Ebony, Riley, Rowan, the baby (sorry I cant remember her name) mother put in diaper box. All these innocent children! What can society do when people bring children into the world and starve them, beat them, rape and murder them. We issue a license to drive evidencing knowledge of rules of the road, safety, etc., but no license has to be obtained to raise a child. [/*]

I guess I take comfort in the fact that most people are NOT like that, no matter what they have gone through in their lives.

It does see that there are too many swindlers out their who do foster care for the money, however. These people DO have to be checked out, but it seems people are so desperate to put children in a home-like situation they don't check hard enough.

I think I am beginning to understand why they are draining bodies of water to look for Jaliek. Everyone close to Jaliek seems to believe Stephen did something, and after hearing about his anger problems and that he "had a fight" with Jaliek...it is sounding more and more familier.

[omsk99]

Finally an update!

"Event planned to keep attention on missing boy case"

~snip

"GREENWICH — A candle will be lit for each year of missing 12-year-old Jaliek Rainwalker’s life during an event to be held in his honor this weekend.

Called "Light the night for Jaliek," supporters and loved ones will also sign a Christmas card for the boy, who has been missing since Nov. 2. It will be held Sunday at the VFW post on Abeel Avenue in Greenwich, beginning at 6:30 p.m.

It is being organized by Elaine Persons, an Altamont woman who runs a respite home where Rainwalker occasionally stayed.

Persons said Christmas ornaments bearing pictures of Rainwalker also will be given to those who attend."

More at the link:

http://www.poststar.com/articles/2007/12/17/news/latest/doc4766f1d0f31a2541045563.txt

:rose:

[omsk99]

I couldn't edit my previous message.

From this article:

"Kerr said Rainwalker left behind a note that said, "Goodbye," but Persons said the boy wrote that note the night before at her home as a "homework" assignment for his father. She said Rainwalker was happy when he left her house and that he was looking forward to visiting the Personses again the following weekend."

This solves the mystery of the note :(

[n/t]

Originally posted by omsk99
I couldn't edit my previous message.

From this article:

"Kerr said Rainwalker left behind a note that said, "Goodbye," but Persons said the boy wrote that note the night before at her home as a "homework" assignment for his father. She said Rainwalker was happy when he left her house and that he was looking forward to visiting the Personses again the following weekend."

This solves the mystery of the note :( [/*]

A goodbye note to his dad as a homework assignment? Why? That doesn't make any sense. :confused:

[HandInCookieJar]

Transcript of the interview with Jocelyn McDonald and Stephen Kerr:

http://coltonleviclark.files.wordpress.com/2007/12/kerrmcdonaldinterview2.pdf

[huskiki]

Originally posted by omsk99
Finally an update!

"Event planned to keep attention on missing boy case"

~snip

"GREENWICH — A candle will be lit for each year of missing 12-year-old Jaliek Rainwalker’s life during an event to be held in his honor this weekend.

Called "Light the night for Jaliek," supporters and loved ones will also sign a Christmas card for the boy, who has been missing since Nov. 2. It will be held Sunday at the VFW post on Abeel Avenue in Greenwich, beginning at 6:30 p.m.

It is being organized by Elaine Persons, an Altamont woman who runs a respite home where Rainwalker occasionally stayed.

Persons said Christmas ornaments bearing pictures of Rainwalker also will be given to those who attend."

More at the link:

http://www.poststar.com/articles/2007/12/17/news/latest/doc4766f1d0f31a2541045563.txt

:rose: [/*]

Hi omsk99!

Yes, this is great news! I have a copy of the poster for the event but I can't figure out how to make it smaller to post (you can see it on my blog but probably won't be able to make out the print on the bottom). I will be there and I'm looking forward to meeting Barbara Reeley.

My thoughts and prayers continue to be with Jaliek and those who love him.

[omsk99]

Originally posted by n/t


A goodbye note to his dad as a homework assignment? Why? That doesn't make any sense. :confused: [/*]

Maybe because Jaliek was misbehaving? :shrug:

ETA: IIRC, the note itself didn't say he was leaving or had "goodbye" in it. Perhaps they called it a "goodbye note" because he said he wouldn't bother them anymore :confused:

[huskiki]

Originally posted by Grace1967



Is it me or did anyone notice the "laughs".
If your child is missing the take a poly if that is what it will take to get the LE to concentrate elsewhere.
These people have an answer for everything except the location of Jaliek. [/*]

Hi Grace1967!

YES! That's the most disturbing part, they have time to make jokes and laugh. Seems to me that Stephen is relaxed enough to take that polygraph now. hmmmmm ...

The mother made a remark that rubbed me the wrong way when she was talking about how Jaliek would say that he was punished more than the other son. She said that the other child has been there longer and knew the rules then added and doesn't have mental problems. It was more the way she slid it in there and rolled her eyes. Also, when she was trying to explain how kids like Jaliek are afraid to get close to the family because they are afraid of being left one more time ...then why would you joke around and talk about family shopping?? It doesn't make sense. Oh and lets not forget they were looking for another place for Jaliek to live ...leaving him one more time.

:rose: For Jaliek

[sasha]

Originally posted by huskiki


Hi Grace1967!

YES! That's the most disturbing part, they have time to make jokes and laugh. Seems to me that Stephen is relaxed enough to take that polygraph now. hmmmmm ...

The mother made a remark that rubbed me the wrong way when she was talking about how Jaliek would say that he was punished more than the other son. She said that the other child has been there longer and knew the rules then added and doesn't have mental problems. It was more the way she slid it in there and rolled her eyes. Also, when she was trying to explain how kids like Jaliek are afraid to get close to the family because they are afraid of being left one more time ...then why would you joke around and talk about family shopping?? It doesn't make sense. Oh and lets not forget they were looking for another place for Jaliek to live ...leaving him one more time.

:rose: For Jaliek [/*]

The comment that i found very telling is on page 6 where she says at the end of the confession
:confused: Hmmmmmmm was that a fraudian slip ???????

[n/t]

Reading the transcripts, these parents sound so much like the McCanns.

Blaming everyone. Police mishandling, blah blah but he refuses to take polygraph test.

It's sickening. It's like deja vu.

No doubt in my mind that Jaliek was murdered and his dad is responsible. Mom covering up. IMO!

I hope I'm wrong. :(

[KindraLore]

Just an FYI about the link to the transcripts. That link is from my blog and I believe Wordpress must have a bandwidth limit because I am finding that it is not viewable at times. (like now)

You can click here (http://www.keepandshare.com/doc/view.php?id=293993&da=y) for the transcipts, but unfortunately the site that's hosting it will make you download it before viewing.

[huskiki]

Originally posted by Grace1967



Poor child, he did not really have a chance with those people.
My child was missing for a very short time, I honestly thought I would die, throat closed up etc, the only thing that kept me going was I HAD to find people to help find him. Even now when I think about it I choke up a bit, cannot ever imagine being light hearted or laughing in this horrendeous situation. These people are worried about themselves they are overlooking the fact that a child is MISSING! Something is very wrong here. [/*]


Some good news guys. Greta finally picked up this story on her blog! I've been leaving comments about Jaliek as I'm sure others have too and it finally paid off. Let's hope this gets some national air time!

[omsk99]

Originally posted by huskiki



Some good news guys. Greta finally picked up this story on her blog! I've been leaving comments about Jaliek as I'm sure others have too and it finally paid off. Let's hope this gets some national air time! [/*]

Wonderful, thank you! I hope that will put some pressure on LE!

[huskiki]

Originally posted by omsk99


Wonderful, thank you! I hope that will put some pressure on LE! [/*]

I know there are others who have tipped her off as well. With any luck this will pressure LE. They are close to giving up due to the snow and cold weather.

[huskiki]

Interesting read:

http://www.timesunion.com/AspStories/story.asp?storyID=648830

[jannuncutt]

I am so glad that I found this thread. I started a thread on Jaliek on another board. I cannot get Jaliek out of my mind. I live in Albany and I don't believe for one moment that Jaliek made it here. I believe that Jaliek is dead by the hand of his adoptive father. I just hope and pray that they find his body soon. I really don't mean to sound harsh and I really wish that I didn't feel this way. But, I really do believe that Stephen Kerr killed that poor child!

[huskiki]

Originally posted by jannuncutt
I am so glad that I found this thread. I started a thread on Jaliek on another board. I cannot get Jaliek out of my mind. I live in Albany and I don't believe for one moment that Jaliek made it here. I believe that Jaliek is dead by the hand of his adoptive father. I just hope and pray that they find his body soon. I really don't mean to sound harsh and I really wish that I didn't feel this way. But, I really do believe that Stephen Kerr killed that poor child! [/*]

Hi Jannuncutt!

I'm glad you found this thread too! There is a vigil this Sunday night in Greenwich from 6:30-7:30. I hope you can attend. Here is the press release:

PRESS RELEASE
To: Assignment Desk
Date: December 20, 2007
Re: Light the Night for Jaliek
For Release: Immediately

On Sunday, December 23, 2007, a special event will be held for Jaliek
Rainwalker, the 12 year old who disappeared from Greenwich, New York on November 1st. The event is called “Light the Night for Jaliek”. The theme is “Searching for Jaliek, Searching for the Truth, Searching for Justice”.

Light the Night for Jaliek will take place inside and outside the Greenwich VFW on Abeel Avenue in Greenwich, just a few blocks away from where his adoptive father last reported seeing Jaliek. The event, scheduled to begin at 6:30 pm and end at 7:30 pm will feature special lighting of twelve search lights aimed into the night sky, one for each year of his young life.

Jaliek’s maternal grandparents, his former pre-adoptive foster family and the respite family who took care of Jaliek for six days before he disappeared will all be among the people who will light the special lights. Coffee, hot chocolate and cookies will be served, everyone will receive a Christmas ornament with Jaliek’s picture on it so we can all keep him in our thoughts and prayers this holiday season. In addition, a huge Christmas card will be available for well-wishers to sign.

For additional information contact Elaine & Tom Person:518-861-6262

[jannuncutt]

Originally posted by huskiki


Hi Jannuncutt!

I'm glad you found this thread too! There is a vigil this Sunday night in Greenwich from 6:30-7:30. I hope you can attend. Here is the press release:

PRESS RELEASE
To: Assignment Desk
Date: December 20, 2007
Re: Light the Night for Jaliek
For Release: Immediately

On Sunday, December 23, 2007, a special event will be held for Jaliek
Rainwalker, the 12 year old who disappeared from Greenwich, New York on November 1st. The event is called “Light the Night for Jaliek”. The theme is “Searching for Jaliek, Searching for the Truth, Searching for Justice”.

Light the Night for Jaliek will take place inside and outside the Greenwich VFW on Abeel Avenue in Greenwich, just a few blocks away from where his adoptive father last reported seeing Jaliek. The event, scheduled to begin at 6:30 pm and end at 7:30 pm will feature special lighting of twelve search lights aimed into the night sky, one for each year of his young life.

Jaliek’s maternal grandparents, his former pre-adoptive foster family and the respite family who took care of Jaliek for six days before he disappeared will all be among the people who will light the special lights. Coffee, hot chocolate and cookies will be served, everyone will receive a Christmas ornament with Jaliek’s picture on it so we can all keep him in our thoughts and prayers this holiday season. In addition, a huge Christmas card will be available for well-wishers to sign.

For additional information contact Elaine & Tom Person:518-861-6262 [/*]


I am so very sorry but, I won't be able to attend.

[jannuncutt]

Does anyone know what Stephen Kerr does for a living?

[huskiki]

Originally posted by jannuncutt
Does anyone know what Stephen Kerr does for a living? [/*]

You know, that's a good question. I have read in several articles that he and his wife home school their children. I know they live a simple lifestyle but I would think that he has a job of some sort.

[jannuncutt]

Originally posted by huskiki


You know, that's a good question. I have read in several articles that he and his wife home school their children. I know they live a simple lifestyle but I would think that he has a job of some sort. [/*]

Yep - I know he home schools and sells eggs. Is it true that they don't have running water?

Also, did you see him on TV when he started quoting Martin Luther King and ended by saying that when Jaliek was born the check said "insufficient funds"? He ended by saying that when Jali

[huskiki]

Originally posted by jannuncutt


Yep - I know he home schools and sells eggs. Is it true that they don't have running water?

Also, did you see him on TV when he started quoting Martin Luther King and ended by saying that when Jaliek was born the check said "insufficient funds"? He ended by saying that when Jali [/*]

I believe it's true that they have no running water. It's by choice, they are living an eco-friendly existance.

Did you just post to a blog asking if anyone knew what Stephen did for a living? I ask because someone just asked on my blog and I thought it was funny that 2 people asked the same question on the same day.

I did see him on TV and I don't know what to make of him. He has an interview on channel 10, it's 28 minutes long, him and his wife. If you haven't seen it yet go to the website and check it out.

[jannuncutt]

Originally posted by huskiki


I believe it's true that they have no running water. It's by choice, they are living an eco-friendly existance.

Did you just post to a blog asking if anyone knew what Stephen did for a living? I ask because someone just asked on my blog and I thought it was funny that 2 people asked the same question on the same day.

I did see him on TV and I don't know what to make of him. He has an interview on channel 10, it's 28 minutes long, him and his wife. If you haven't seen it yet go to the website and check it out. [/*]

Yep - it was me! Wow!! That's your blog? I just found it today - it's great! I'm quite impressed!!!!

[huskiki]

Originally posted by jannuncutt


Yep - it was me! Wow!! That's your blog? I just found it today - it's great! I'm quite impressed!!!! [/*]

Yup that's little ole me :) I'm glad you like it and hope you find enough information there. Thanks for stopping by!

[omsk99]

Originally posted by huskiki
Interesting read:

http://www.timesunion.com/AspStories/story.asp?storyID=648830 [/*]

Thank you for posting this, I was just about to post this link too!

Kerr's behavior is beyond bizarre, it really screams of guilt!

[omsk99]

http://www.fox23news.com/news/local/story.aspx?content_id=24c9e2a3-1604-4fe7-*65*-4426251668a5

:rose:

ETA: snip

"We spoke with Kerr off camera. He says he never physically took any flyers down. But rather asked store owners to, out of respect for his family. Because he says, the vigil organizers haven't been supportive of them.."

What nerve! This is not about HIM, this is about JALIEK! :flamemad:

[huskiki]

In today's news:

http://www.timesunion.com/AspStories/story.asp?storyID=649220

I haven't had a chance to read it yet but I wanted to get it here for the rest of you. I'll comment after I read the article.

[huskiki]

Originally posted by huskiki
In today's news:

http://www.timesunion.com/AspStories/story.asp?storyID=649220

I haven't had a chance to read it yet but I wanted to get it here for the rest of you. I'll comment after I read the article. [/*]


OK, I've read it. This guy is too much for me to stomach. Now he believes that Jaliek is with an African American family. Yes, this family is keeping him in hiding. What will be next? The best part about the article is that it states that the police don't believe him! LOL

I think the only reason he's doing this is to take the attention away from the vigil this Sunday night. He says it's being organized by people who just want to say that he killed Jaliek.

Dear Stephen Kerr,

Light the Night for Jaliek is not about you ...it's about your missing son. Get over yourself!

[huskiki]

All sorts of news today.

http://www.capitalnews9.com/content/your_news/north_country/?SecID=5&ArID=227801

[omsk99]

And some more

http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2007/12/19/jaliek-rainwalker/#comment-225389

http://missingchild.wordpress.com/2007/12/20/missing-jaliek-rainwalker/

http://www.cbs6albany.com/onset?id=1253173&template=article.html


:rose:

[huskiki]

Originally posted by omsk99
And some more

http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2007/12/19/jaliek-rainwalker/#comment-225389

http://missingchild.wordpress.com/2007/12/20/missing-jaliek-rainwalker/

http://www.cbs6albany.com/onset?id=1253173&template=article.html


:rose: [/*]

Hi omsk99!

Thanks for the links! I think most of the comments on Gretawire are mine. LOL I use my first name, Kim, there. And I just stumbled on the missingchild site yesterday, I think from Greta's blog. I'm gald to see that other blogs are picking this up. Now if only Greta would feature it on her show.

[omsk99]

Originally posted by huskiki


Hi omsk99!

Thanks for the links! I think most of the comments on Gretawire are mine. LOL I use my first name, Kim, there. And I just stumbled on the missingchild site yesterday, I think from Greta's blog. I'm gald to see that other blogs are picking this up. Now if only Greta would feature it on her show. [/*]

I hope she will! :seeya:

And a few more:

" FBI to retrace last trip of father, boy"

http://www.timesunion.com/AspStories/story.asp?storyID=649220&category=REGION&newsdate=12/21/2007

"Posters for vigil torn down"

http://www.capitalnews9.com/content/top_stories/default.asp?ArID=227801

"Continued search for Jaliek Rainwalker" (huskiki, is that you? :) )
http://accordingtokim.wordpress.com/2007/12/21/continued-search-for-jaliek-rainwalker/

:rose:

[huskiki]

Yes omsk99 ...that's me :D

[omsk99]

Originally posted by huskiki
Yes omsk99 ...that's me :D [/*]

Thank you for all your efforts to help find the boy and keep us informed!! :seeya:

[omsk99]

snip from one of the articles above:

"Kerr said he's pleased to be dealing with the FBI because he wants to find his son. But he is convinced that Rainwalker is alive and living with a family who, for unknown reasons, is keeping him hidden.[/*] "

Doesn't he understand how stupid this sounds?! :mad: Why would anyone want to keep him hidden if they were going to "unadopt" him anyway (if the other family wanted to keep him)?

[omsk99]

Updated: 12/21/2007 4:21 PM
By: Web Staff

ALBANY, N.Y. -- The father of Jaliek Rainwalker met with FBI agents on Friday to retrace the pair's steps the night the 12-year-old disappeared.

Stephen Kerr was the last person to see Jaliek before he disappeared on November 1st.

While there has been no sign of the boy, Kerr has said he believes his son ran away with some older boys from Albany.

According to the Time Union, Kerr was set to meet with the FBI at the Best Western on Western Avenue in Albany Friday where Jaliek was picked up after a five-day stay at a respite home on November 1st. That was the last day he was seen.

On Thursday, several Greenwich business reported to police that Kerr was taking down posters about a vigil for Jaliek. Police said Kerr did tear down the posters because he didn't agree with the group hosting the vigil.

http://www.capitalnews9.com/content/headlines/?ArID=227835&SecID=33

I wonder what the results of this are?

:rose:

[n/t]

Originally posted by omsk99
Updated: 12/21/2007 4:21 PM
By: Web Staff

ALBANY, N.Y. -- The father of Jaliek Rainwalker met with FBI agents on Friday to retrace the pair's steps the night the 12-year-old disappeared.

Stephen Kerr was the last person to see Jaliek before he disappeared on November 1st.

While there has been no sign of the boy, Kerr has said he believes his son ran away with some older boys from Albany.

According to the Time Union, Kerr was set to meet with the FBI at the Best Western on Western Avenue in Albany Friday where Jaliek was picked up after a five-day stay at a respite home on November 1st. That was the last day he was seen.

On Thursday, several Greenwich business reported to police that Kerr was taking down posters about a vigil for Jaliek. Police said Kerr did tear down the posters because he didn't agree with the group hosting the vigil.

http://www.capitalnews9.com/content/headlines/?ArID=227835&SecID=33

I wonder what the results of this are?

:rose: [/*]

He's now tearing down posters? I hope the FBI is onto him. I'll eat my hat if Kerr is innocent of any wrongdoing.

[huskiki]

Hi guys, I have another article to share. Again, I haven't read it in its entirety so I'll save my comments for later.

http://www.altamontenterprise.com/Weekly%20Pages/Feature%20Story.html

[Bertha]

More local information from The Altamont Enterprise

http://www.altamontenterprise.com/Weekly%20Pages/Feature%20Story.html

How Kerr and his wife are talking about Jaliek is unbelievable. Any interview I have seen of them is so staged and their behavior bizarre.

[huskiki]

Originally posted by Bertha
More local information from The Altamont Enterprise

http://www.altamontenterprise.com/Weekly%20Pages/Feature%20Story.html

How Kerr and his wife are talking about Jaliek is unbelievable. Any interview I have seen of them is so staged and their behavior bizarre. [/*]

Hi Bertha! We're thinking alike and posted the same article. This story gets stranger by the day.

[Bertha]

Yes, Kim, getting stranger by the day! and at the same time there are more and more discrepancies uncovered, which is a very good thing! eventually someone is going to make a really big mistake. And our eyes and ears are open, right!?

I hope that Sunday's vigil: Light the Night for Jaliek will be a big gathering. Thank you for sharing the word.

[huskiki]

Good Morning everyone!

Not much in the way of news on Jaliek but I'm here to remind you that "Light the Night for Jaliek" is tonight. If you live in the Capital District (NY) please come out to join us. 6:30-7:30 at the VFW in Greenwich, NY>

[Postergeist]

Originally posted by huskiki
Hi guys, I have another article to share. Again, I haven't read it in its entirety so I'll save my comments for later.

http://www.altamontenterprise.com/Weekly%20Pages/Feature%20Story.html

oh-

<snip>

The Persons and McDonald’s mother, Barbara Reeley, are concerned that Kerr may have had something to do with the boy’s disappearance,

....

Reeley and her husband, Dennis Smith, worry that the two adopted children don’t get the same treatment as the biological children do.

“I really feel like Jocelyn and Stephen’s intentions were noble at the beginning,” Reeley said, “but then they learned to work the system.”



hmm- so Mr. & Mrs. Person, who were providing the respite care for Jaliek, and then the boy's own granny (the mother to the foster mom) are thinking Kerr played a part in this.

IMO, People need to come clean and say what they know now! No more silence!

---> (anyone know if the other children in the home have been allowed to be questioned by police?)

[huskiki]

Originally posted by Postergeist


oh-

<snip>

The Persons and McDonald’s mother, Barbara Reeley, are concerned that Kerr may have had something to do with the boy’s disappearance,

....

Reeley and her husband, Dennis Smith, worry that the two adopted children don’t get the same treatment as the biological children do.

“I really feel like Jocelyn and Stephen’s intentions were noble at the beginning,” Reeley said, “but then they learned to work the system.”



hmm- so Mr. & Mrs. Person, who were providing the respite care for Jaliek, and then the boy's own granny (the mother to the foster mom) are thinking Kerr played a part in this.

IMO, People need to come clean and say what they know now! No more silence!

---> (anyone know if the other children in the home have been allowed to be questioned by police?) [/*]

I'm not sure if the other children were questioned or not but I do think they were removed from the home for a short period of time. There was an interview of the adoptive parents and I thought the mother said that Kerr couldn't have contact with the children. Not sure where that stands now.

[sasha]

I am not able to attend the light the night for Jaliek and i also did not want to not be apart of him being in my thoughts and prayers so i have decided that tonight at 6:30 pm to 7:30 pm i am lighting a candle and setting it on my front porch so i can be a part of light the night for Jaliek even though i cant be there. This is just my little way of being a part of the vigil and its just a thought for anyone else that wants to be a part but is not able to attend as i am not.
LIGHT THE NIGHT FOR JALIEK :rose: :rose: :rose:

[jtazzy]

Sasha,
I think that is a wonderful Idea that you are wanting to get started for Jaliek....

For the ones of us that can not attend, let's just take a moment out of our busy day today and light a candle for him.

[huskiki]

Thank you Sasha! That was a wonderful idea. I hope all that saw your post did the same.

I was able to attend and it was a very nice ceremony. Jaliek touched the lives of many and those who love him will not give up looking for him.

:rose: :wreath: Jaliek, you're in our thoughts and prayers.

[Bertha]

Kim, it was so good to meet you yesterday at the gathering for Jaliek. It was so intense to be there, all the pain allthe hope and love for Jaliek. It was good to see so much of the press there.

Here is a nice article about the event:
http://www.news10.com/Global/story.asp?S=7536746

My prayers are with are with the grandparents the respit home parents and families who have shared Jaliek's life for a while and with all who are involved with him and his life.

I wish you a blessed Holiday, joy and cherrish your loved-ones,
Bertha

[n/t]

Was Kerr there?

[huskiki]

Originally posted by Bertha
Kim, it was so good to meet you yesterday at the gathering for Jaliek. It was so intense to be there, all the pain allthe hope and love for Jaliek. It was good to see so much of the press there.

Here is a nice article about the event:
http://www.news10.com/Global/story.asp?S=7536746

My prayers are with are with the grandparents the respit home parents and families who have shared Jaliek's life for a while and with all who are involved with him and his life.

I wish you a blessed Holiday, joy and cherrish your loved-ones,
Bertha [/*]

Thank You Bertha, it was so nice to meet you too. It was a very touching vigil and was filled with so much love for Jaliek.

Nobody there is planning on giving up on finding Jaliek. It might not be today, it might not be tomorrow but the day will come.

I hope you had a wonderful holiday and I will be emailing you this week.

[huskiki]

Originally posted by n/t
Was Kerr there? [/*]

Hi n/t!

No, Kerr was not there. I believe I read in the paper that he had no interest in being there since it was organized by people who are out to get him (not his exact words but close). One thing that I couldn't help but notice was that there were a couple of LE close by. I suppose they had to be on the off chance Kerr did show up to disrupt the vigil. IMO

The press was there and it was fully covered by the local news. I have been busy the past two day with the holidays but will be back to blogging and posting links here as well.

I hope you had a happy holiday!

[huskiki]

Someone has created a myspace called Help Find Jaliek. Here's the link: www.myspace.com/jaliek_rainwalker

[huskiki]

This prayer is from “Light the Night for Jaliek”

We gather here tonight to pray for Jaliek Rainwalker, a beautiful and innocent child who is lost and needs your help to be found

A child who gave his love unconditionally and sought nothing in return

A child who could light up a room

A child who has touched so many lives

A child who is worth remembering and looking for

We pray for the adopted family, the foster and respite families and friends of Jaliek that they may find peace

We pray for the many dedicated and caring law enforcement men and women that they may be guided by Jaliek’s loving spirit to wherever he is

We pray for truth

We pray for the thousands of strangers who have been praying for Jaliek

We pray that they will always have faith and peace and love for those who are lost

We ask your angels to watch over Jaliek and his siblings, Robin, Bevin, Rowan and Kianan

We ask your angels to love and protect them and keep them from harm and despair

Lord, we pray that you lead the authorities to him

Be a beacon unto those who walk in darkness

Keep him safe

Be with his family and give them courage and strength

We pray for all those who have come to know and love Jaliek that they may be comforted, that they will feel his love from wherever he is and keep him forever in their hearts

Amen

[huskiki]

http://www.timesunion.com/AspStories/story.asp?storyID=649899

http://www.capitalnews9.com/content/headlines/?SecID=33&ArID=227983

http://www.wten.com/Global/story.asp?S=7536746

[huskiki]

I am sending the following letter via email to national news anchors, talk show hosts and local talk radio shows.

I am writing out of concern for a missing 12 year old boy named Jaliek Rainwalker from Greenwich, NY. Jaliek went missing on November 1st under questionable circumstances. This story has many twists so I’ll just give a brief description.

Jaliek is a child who was born to a crack addict, placed in the foster care system and after living with 7 foster families was adopted by Stephen Kerr and his wife Jocelyn McDonald. Jaliek suffers from Reactive Attachment Disorder which causes some behavioral problems. Jaliek’s adoptive parents sent him to a respite home, a place where parents can leave emotionally troubled children for a break from constant turmoil. Stephen Kerr picked Jaliek up on October 31st and took him to the empty home of his father to spend the night. He didn’t want to bring Jaliek back to the house because Jaliek had threatened one of their other children and he wanted them to feel safe. The plan was to bring Jaliek back to the respite home the following week.

On the morning of November 1st Kerr awoke and found that Jaliek was gone. It is said that a “goodbye” note was left behind, although there is speculation that this note was a homework assignment given to Jaliek by Kerr. Once Kerr realized that Jaliek was gone he went home to see his wife and they reported Jaliek missing later that day. In days to come law enforcement would ask both Kerr and McDonald to take a polygraph, McDonald complied but Kerr did not, stating that he was not medically fit because he only had about 5 hours of sleep over a 3 day span. The results of McDonald’s polygraph have not been released and to this day Kerr has not taken a polygraph.

Since then Kerr has displayed odd behavior. He and his wife did not have much contact with law enforcement, Kerr has given several theories as to what has happened to Jaliek and has gone as far to take signs down, signs that were posted to let people know of a vigil to be held for Jaliek. Most disturbing is that Kerr and McDonald were planning to un-do Jaliek’s adoption.

McDonald’s mother, Barbara Reeley, believes that Kerr has information about Jaliek and that he knows what happened that night. Family ties have now become strained but Reeley’s main concern is to find justice for Jaliek. When she heard that Kerr was taking down the signs that she posted, she called him to ask him to stop but he hung up on her. He feels as if Reeley and some former foster families are out to get him. The vigil called “Light the Night for Jaliek” went on as planned and was held in a peaceful manner and I was fortunate enough to attend and meet some of the people who are close to Jaliek. Neither Kerr nor McDonald was present.

You’re probably wondering why I am contacting you since I do not have a connection with the missing boy. I never had the pleasure of meeting Jaliek and doubt I ever will. Over the years I have watched story after story on various news channels of missing people and this time it hit close to home, I live an hour from where this took place. As a working parent of two, there isn’t much I can do to actively search for Jaliek. My contribution is to spread the word to as many people that I can. I have posted to CourtTV forums and truned my blog over to posting any information I can find about Jaliek. Now I am reaching out to you in the hopes that you will take some time to investigate a little further into Jaliek’s disappearance. Jaliek’s story needs national attention, the local media have done a good job with what they have but I believe with your help we can find justice for Jaliek.

Thank you for your time,

Kim

[huskiki]

http://www.poststar.com/articles/2007/12/28/news/latest/doc477528af6445f952345167.txt

[huskiki]

Originally posted by huskiki
http://www.poststar.com/articles/2007/12/28/news/latest/doc477528af6445f952345167.txt [/*]

Interesting tid-bit from this article "He has said he did not take the lie detector test because police violated his rights and threatened him."

Kerr's story changes yet again!

[starling]

http://www.poststar.com/articles/2008/01/01/news/latest/doc477abbf54f2a8499456346.txt

http://www.findjaliek.org/

[spicedtea]

Originally posted by starling
http://www.poststar.com/articles/2008/01/01/news/latest/doc477abbf54f2a8499456346.txt

http://www.findjaliek.org/ [/*]

The adoptive parents have a reward going that will drop $5000 for every month he remains missing? How creepy is that?!? I've never heard of such a thing.

After reading through this thread and the links provided I do admit to feeling that the adoptive father is responsable for that beautiful boys disappearance.

I guess I shouldn't be suprised at the reward thing,those "parents" don't give a hoot about that child.

And their ending contact with the police after only two days! Just sick people,even if he did run away (which I seriously doubt) can we really blame him?

Poor Jaliek, I hope you're safe and warm...wherever you are and will be found soon.:rose:

[huskiki]

I hope I can post now, I've been trying for days and it wouldn't let me.

810 WGY’s Al Roney interviewed Elaine Person who was a former foster mother and Barbara Reeley who is the adoptive grandmother of Jaliek Rainwalker. You can listen to these interviews by going to http://wgy.com/cc-common/podcast.html They are listed as “Missing Kid (parts 1 & 2)” and “Search for Jaliek (parts 1 & 2)” under Al Roney On-Demand.

[omsk99]

Originally posted by huskiki
I hope I can post now, I've been trying for days and it wouldn't let me.

810 WGY’s Al Roney interviewed Elaine Person who was a former foster mother and Barbara Reeley who is the adoptive grandmother of Jaliek Rainwalker. You can listen to these interviews by going to http://wgy.com/cc-common/podcast.html They are listed as “Missing Kid (parts 1 & 2)” and “Search for Jaliek (parts 1 & 2)” under Al Roney On-Demand. [/*]

Interesting interview. At least someone loved and still loves this boy

:rose:

[BobbisAngel]

I think that Kerr is as guilty as sin. The foster mother told a story about Kerr getting mad at the boy and choking him and dragging him down to the creek and shoving his head into the water until his wife made him stop and told him that she thought he should leave. It sounds like the man has a dangerous anger problem.

Kerr said that the boy left a goodbye not but according to the foster mother...respite mom...that was a homework assignment that Kerr made Jalik do the night before while he was at respite.

I think that Kerr knew exactly what he was going to do once he got Jalik to the grandfather's home. That little boy didn't run away in my opinion anyway.

When the respite mother and the child's grandmother both think that Kerr did something to Jalik I believe that there is something to it. Most families stick together during times like this and even if they think something they usually don't say it for a while anyway. The grandmother said that she knew her daughter would probably never speak to her but she would worry about that later. Bless her heart. She is just concerned about Jalik. Such a handsome boy.

I know that families receive a large sum of money every month for taking troubled kids like Jalik. It's over $1,000 a month. It makes me wonder. I would imagine they earn every penny of that check though. If you find that you can't cope then take them back right away....don't murder them. That man should have never been left alone with that little boy. I have an idea that the wife knew that too. He was a powder keg just waiting to go off.

I hope and pray that this little one is found. I pray that he is alright but I don't have a good feeling about it. This story reminds me of little Ricky Holland. A little boy who was adopted and then murdered. His foster/adoptive parents also said that he ran away. I believe he was 9 yrs old. They are both in prison now...thank God.

[huskiki]

Originally posted by BobbisAngel
I think that Kerr is as guilty as sin. The foster mother told a story about Kerr getting mad at the boy and choking him and dragging him down to the creek and shoving his head into the water until his wife made him stop and told him that she thought he should leave. It sounds like the man has a dangerous anger problem.

Kerr said that the boy left a goodbye not but according to the foster mother...respite mom...that was a homework assignment that Kerr made Jalik do the night before while he was at respite.

I think that Kerr knew exactly what he was going to do once he got Jalik to the grandfather's home. That little boy didn't run away in my opinion anyway.

When the respite mother and the child's grandmother both think that Kerr did something to Jalik I believe that there is something to it. Most families stick together during times like this and even if they think something they usually don't say it for a while anyway. The grandmother said that she knew her daughter would probably never speak to her but she would worry about that later. Bless her heart. She is just concerned about Jalik. Such a handsome boy.

I know that families receive a large sum of money every month for taking troubled kids like Jalik. It's over $1,000 a month. It makes me wonder. I would imagine they earn every penny of that check though. If you find that you can't cope then take them back right away....don't murder them. That man should have never been left alone with that little boy. I have an idea that the wife knew that too. He was a powder keg just waiting to go off.

I hope and pray that this little one is found. I pray that he is alright but I don't have a good feeling about it. This story reminds me of little Ricky Holland. A little boy who was adopted and then murdered. His foster/adoptive parents also said that he ran away. I believe he was 9 yrs old. They are both in prison now...thank God. [/*]

I don't understand how the adoptive parents could do so little to help in the search for Jaliek and still wonder why people think that they are somehow involved. Those closest to the missing person are always looked at as POI's and for those who have nothing to hide tend to cooperate with LE so they can be cleared. Not in this case, Kerr is doing everything a guilty person trying to hide something would do. I know that people react in different ways to tragic events but his behavior goes beyond that. Add to that his temper and you have a recipe for a prime suspect.

Everyday I wake up hoping that Jaliek has been found and everyday leaves me saddened to find that he is still out there ...alone.

[huskiki]

I received an email this morning from Barbara Reeley. She was forwarding the following request from Elaine Person.

“As most of you know, we have been involved with the search for Jaliek Rainwalker, the 12 year-old boy who disappeared from Greenwich, NY on November 1st, after spending six days with us in Altamont.

My husband and I and all those who knew and loved Jaliek are making a prayer request. We are asking everyone to light a candle each night for a week, starting tonight at 7:00pm until 10:00pm with a prayer being said for Jaliek to be found and resolution be brought to this very disturbing case.

Please feel free to forward this to anyone you know who would be willing to participate.

Thank you, in advance for your willingness to help and God bless you!”

[huskiki]

Originally posted by huskiki
I received an email this morning from Barbara Reeley. She was forwarding the following request from Elaine Person.

“As most of you know, we have been involved with the search for Jaliek Rainwalker, the 12 year-old boy who disappeared from Greenwich, NY on November 1st, after spending six days with us in Altamont.

My husband and I and all those who knew and loved Jaliek are making a prayer request. We are asking everyone to light a candle each night for a week, starting tonight at 7:00pm until 10:00pm with a prayer being said for Jaliek to be found and resolution be brought to this very disturbing case.

Please feel free to forward this to anyone you know who would be willing to participate.

Thank you, in advance for your willingness to help and God bless you!” [/*]

I forgot to add:

Elaine & Tom Person
Find Jaliek Task Force
Foster and Adoptive Parents for over 28 years
518-861-6262
518-527-6868 cell
Toll-free 1-877-4-JALIEK
www.findjaliek.org

[shelkobe]

Oh for goodness sake, Kerr and McDonald are still receiving a $1,500 monthly check from Social Services? Is this for real?

On January 6, 2008, Albany County Department of Social Services will cut a check that includes approximately $1500, tax-free as an adoption subsidy for Jaliek Rainwalker who was adopted over two years ago. Jocelyn McDonald and Stephen Kerr will receive this check in the mail on January 9th or 10th. This will be the third check of this kind that they will have received AFTER they reported their son missing.

http://findjaliek.org/Find%20Jaliek%20Task%20Force/Find%20Jaliek%20Task%20Force.html

[huskiki]

Originally posted by shelkobe
Oh for goodness sake, Kerr and McDonald are still receiving a $1,500 monthly check from Social Services? Is this for real?


http://findjaliek.org/Find%20Jaliek%20Task%20Force/Find%20Jaliek%20Task%20Force.html [/*]

That's the state of NY for you! There are some serious problems within the system that I'm sure will be revealed over the course of Jaliek's investigation. First question is if a child is adopted then why do they still receive money as foster parents? To me if you adopt then you are taking responsibility of the child and shouldn't be receiving money from the state. Next question is why are they receiving money for a child that is missing and not in their care? Jaliek's been missing for 2 months! This is absurd! :flamemad:

[MysteryMachine]

:rose: Justice for Jaliek.....


Step up people who are responsible....how can you carry on this charade?? Have you no dignity???? You will get yours.

[omsk99]

~"GREENWICH — The adopted father of Jaliek Rainwalker has been asked again to take a lie detector test, but five days later, police have not gotten an answer to that request."

http://www.poststar.com/articles/2008/01/08/news/latest/doc4784041575a02433474443.txt

[huskiki]

Originally posted by omsk99
~"GREENWICH — The adopted father of Jaliek Rainwalker has been asked again to take a lie detector test, but five days later, police have not gotten an answer to that request."

http://www.poststar.com/articles/2008/01/08/news/latest/doc4784041575a02433474443.txt [/*]

Hi omsk99!

I don't believe he has any intentions of taking a polygraph. If he really wanted to help the investigation then he would take the damn test in an attempt to clear himself as a POI. Like that would happen, IMO he's the only POI.

[Mandysmom]

I keep coming back here hoping to find that Jaliek has been found.

Poor kid, he had so much against him from day one.

:rose:

[huskiki]

Latest on the search for Jaliek Rainwalker
1/9/2008 3:47 PM
By: Jessica Mokhiber

GREENWICH, N.Y. - After more than two months of searching and a tremendous amount of manpower dedicated to finding Jaliek Rainwalker, there is still no sign of the 12-year-old. His adoptive father Steven Kerr was the last person to see him the night he disappeared and previously refused a lie detector test. The Post-Star reports that authorities have given him another chance to take the test, but authorities remain tight-lipped when asked about it.

Greenwich-Cambridge Police Chief said, "I can't comment on that."

Steven Kerr's attorney Jeffrey McMorris also declined to comment on any conversations he and his client have had with the FBI. His only statement was to say, "We believe we're being fully cooperative with anything that would lead to Jaliek's return home."

Meanwhile, community members who make up the Find Jaliek Task Force are expressing concern that McDonald and Kerr continue to receive a $1,500 check each month to care for Jaliek even though he is missing.

"I've reached out to Albany County to advise them that Jaliek is missing and has been missing for about two months, and I haven't gotten correspondence back from them," said Bell.

Bell also said this case has been tough for him because of the amount of time and energy put in with no resolution.

Bell said, "I take it on as a personal thing myself because I think it's very frustrating for me to not be able to bring some closure to a 12 year-old child who's had this horrendous past of his."

Even though police aren't actively searching at this time, they said forest rangers are still working with psychics to search areas of Washington County. Police Chief George Bell also noted that the reward offered by Jaliek's parents has not generated any information on his whereabouts.

http://www.capitalnews9.com/content/headlines/?SecID=33&ArID=229117

[omsk99]

The article above was updated today, but I am not sure which parts:

http://www.capitalnews9.com/content/top_stories/default.asp?ArID=229117

[huskiki]

Originally posted by omsk99
The article above was updated today, but I am not sure which parts:

http://www.capitalnews9.com/content/top_stories/default.asp?ArID=229117 [/*]

You know, I can never tell what they update. I wrote an email to Greta today hoping she would pick up Jaliek's story.

For Jaliek :rose:

[omsk99]

Originally posted by huskiki


You know, I can never tell what they update. I wrote an email to Greta today hoping she would pick up Jaliek's story.

For Jaliek :rose: [/*]

I couldn't see any difference, but it was dated today :confused:

Not sure if this You Tube was posted before:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=YQuxYZRX2Xc

ETA: He looks so happy in all the photos :(

[Postergeist]

Originally posted by omsk99
The article above was updated today, but I am not sure which parts:

http://www.capitalnews9.com/content/top_stories/default.asp?ArID=229117

Any idea when the psychics were brought in on this case?

I hope that they have the gift enough to be able to pick up something or guide LE to where they need to focus.

:rose: Jaliek

[huskiki]

Originally posted by omsk99


I couldn't see any difference, but it was dated today :confused:

Not sure if this You Tube was posted before:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=YQuxYZRX2Xc

ETA: He looks so happy in all the photos :( [/*]

I haven't seen this You Tube and it's just so difficult to watch. I sent in an application to Forever Seraching this morning. He's such a beautiful young boy.

[omsk99]

Originally posted by Postergeist


Any idea when the psychics were brought in on this case?

I hope that they have the gift enough to be able to pick up something or guide LE to where they need to focus.

:rose: Jaliek [/*]

I was glad and surprised that LE are working with psychics, you just never know... Also wonder if Kerr took the polygraph, but seriously doubt it :mad:

[omsk99]

Originally posted by huskiki


I haven't seen this You Tube and it's just so difficult to watch. I sent in an application to Forever Seraching this morning. He's such a beautiful young boy. [/*]

I agree, it looks like he was really enjoying his life, playing music...

:rose:

[huskiki]

Originally posted by omsk99


I was glad and surprised that LE are working with psychics, you just never know... Also wonder if Kerr took the polygraph, but seriously doubt it :mad: [/*]

No, he didn't take the polygraph! This guy!!! :flamemad:

[omsk99]

Originally posted by huskiki


No, he didn't take the polygraph! This guy!!! :flamemad: [/*]

Unbelievable! :cuss:

[huskiki]

Psychics search for missing boy in Greenwich

GREENWICH -- Greenwich Police met with the FBI Thursday to discuss the disappearance of Jaliek Rainwalker. Police Chief George Bell would not go into detail about the meeting, but he did provide forest rangers to go out on a search with Rainwalker's adoptive grandparents.

With the help of two psychics, they searched various spots, but came up empty. Still, they are hopeful.

"Things are moving. Things are going to happen. You know we may not find Jaliek but you know there are other things that can happen," said Grandmother Barbara Reeley.

Reeley and her husband say they really just want to know the truth. They say they would like to search Steven Kerr's property, but Rainwalker's adoptive father will not let them.

http://wnyt.com/article/stories/S309888.shtml?cat=300

[Mandysmom]

I was reading on the Brian's Dream website the other day and he said Jaliek was taken near the Amtrak station by the river. And by someone he knew and the initials were SK.

I don't always believe in some of this stuff, but he has been right on a lot of things. I'm still over there reading.

Poor little Jaliek. I hope resolution is brought to this case soon.

:(

[huskiki]

Originally posted by Mandysmom
I was reading on the Brian's Dream website the other day and he said Jaliek was taken near the Amtrak station by the river. And by someone he knew and the initials were SK.

I don't always believe in some of this stuff, but he has been right on a lot of things. I'm still over there reading.

Poor little Jaliek. I hope resolution is brought to this case soon.

:( [/*]

This peaks my curiosity. Do you have a link? I'm not sure where the closest Amtrak station is to Greenwich but there's one 5 minutes from my house. I even questioned earlier on why Kerr didn't hang posters at the train station or the bus station which is in Albany along the Hudson River.

[Rick777]

Honestly....I can't get into any of these possibilties until Kerr takes a polygraph. If he took one and passed, then ALL these leads need to be acted on! Kerr was the last person with Jaliek, and that has to be the focus until proven otherwise. Kerr is hurting the investigation by not clearing himself.

[huskiki]

Originally posted by Rick777
Honestly....I can't get into any of these possibilties until Kerr takes a polygraph. If he took one and passed, then ALL these leads need to be acted on! Kerr was the last person with Jaliek, and that has to be the focus until proven otherwise. Kerr is hurting the investigation by not clearing himself. [/*]

Hello Rick!

I couldn't have said it better myself!

[huskiki]

I received an email that there will be a rally for Jaliek tomorrow, Sunday Jan 13th. Here’s the information:

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE – 1/11/08Elaine PersonFind Jaliek Task Force518-861-6262518-527-6868 celleperson@capital.net

WHAT HAPPEN TO JALIEK RAINWALKER NEWS CONFERENCE

On December 30, 2007, Doreathea Brace, a slightly built African American woman came out of church and was met on the street by Stephen Kerr, the adopted father of Jaliek Rainwalker. Jaliek is the 12 year-old who disappeared from Greenwich, NY over ten weeks ago on November 1st. Stephen Kerr was the last person to see Jaliek alive and has stated that he believes his adopted son ran away and joined a gang in Albany or is living with an African American family in a rural area.

As Mr. Kerr attempted to hand her a reward flyer, she confronted him with angry allegations that it was he, who had harmed Jaliek. It was all caught on tape and later shown on the news. Doreathea has had many sleepless nights since that encounter and is driven to help find Jaliek. She is also outraged at Mr. Kerr’s allegations about the Black community hiding this child.

She has organized a news conference/rally scheduled for Sunday, January 13th at the Albany Housing Authority at 200 South Pearl Street in Albany at 3:00pm. Doreathea has spent many hours passing out her own flyers advertising the event. It reads, “Women, Mothers, all females of all Races. Please come out. Tell the authorities this young man has become a victim of foul play. Come one, come ALL!! Let’s STOP THE KILLING OF OUR CHILDREN!”

[huskiki]

"New Developments" in Jaliek Case Will See Release Soon

There are apparently new developments in the case of missing Greenwich boy, Jaliek Rainwalker. Right now police are saying little about the new information, but what they are saying is that they expect to reveal the details to the public soon.

NEWS10's Anya Tucker spoke to the Chief of Police in Greenwich, who says they are making some headway in the case.

"It's just something that's an ongoing investigation and I can't jeopardize this investigation at this point by making mention of what's come up," said a very tight lipped George Bell, Chief of the Cambridge-Greenwich Police Department.

While he will not release any of these "new developments" now, he said however that the media will know more about them by the beginning of next week. When asked about how important they were to the case, Chief Bell responded, "I think it is [important, ] every little bit we get. But this is a pretty decent bit to this puzzle,"

One new piece of information the Chief will release, is that a once-$1,500 stipend given to Jaliek's adoptive parents has now been cut off.

"It was my understanding that Albany County was still paying the family for Jaliek, even though he was not in the family these [past] couple of months. We thought that that should stop," he said.

All of these developments, those released and those still yet-to-be, come as good news for Jaliek's maternal grandparents, Barbara Reeley and Dennis Smith, who were spending more time in Greenwich keeping up the search efforts for their missing grandson. They believe their son-in-law Stephen Kerr is not being completely forthcoming about what happened to the mentally-ill boy.

"There have been so many hours when people have not known where Stephen could not be found, and those things will come out next week," Reeley said.

Smith shared Reeley's sentiments by saying, "Bottom line is a 12-year-old boy that's lived in a little sheltered community [...] does not [just] disappear [...] that story just does not hold any water,"

Reeley also said that she now worries for the four other children still living with Kerr, and regrets never calling authorities about the treatment of them, including Jaliek.

"There were times when, emotionally, they were treated very badly. And now I know I should have called Child Protective Services," she said.

The 12-year-old with a troubled past disappeared back on November 1st. Since then, there have been a number of searches on land, and in the water, for the boy. Jaliek's adoptive father, Stephen Kerr, was the last to see him, and has been under suspicion by police. He says he believes his son is alive and ran away to Albany.

http://www.wten.com/Global/story.asp?s=7611295

[Rick777]

Well I'm glad there will be some new evidence to work with, but the cop didn't sound hopeful that we are looking for a runaway.

[huskiki]

Originally posted by Rick777
Well I'm glad there will be some new evidence to work with, but the cop didn't sound hopeful that we are looking for a runaway. [/*]

Hi Rick!

It is good news in that the case is moving forward. We might not get the ending that we hope for but if nothing else there will be closure and justice. I have no idea what they are going to say but I do know that the FBI have been working on the case.

I went to the press conf/rally today. This woman named Dorothea pulled it together. She ran into Kerr a couple of weeks ago while he was hanging reward posters. For some reason she felt as if she needed to confront him. She looked at him and she said it was like looking in the eyes of evil. She said to him something along the lines of "you know you did" and she pretty much stated that he killed Jaliek. This woman was a pip and I think the world needs more like her. I will have more on that tomorrow, I have some pics and I'm sure there will be articles as most of the news channels were there.

[huskiki]

Good Monday Morning!

Here's what's going on:

Two communities unite for Rainwalker

ALBANY, N.Y. -- "Look at this baby, he isn't even gang material," said Doreathea Brace, a concerned Albany resident.

And even though she never knew missing North Country boy Jaliek Rainwalker, she knows in her heart he isn't in Albany.

"He's never been here and we've been asking around. We want the authorities to find the person that committed the crime against this young boy," said Brace.

Rainwalker's disappeared from his adoptive family's Greenwich home in November. The last person who saw him was his adoptive father Stephen Kerr.

"I was not involved in his disappearance. I have nothing to hide," said Kerr on December 6th.

No one has been charged, including Kerr, with any crime associated with Rainwalker's disappearance. He told Capital News 9 in December that his son could be in the Albany area with a gang or a black family, specifically with three teens Rainwalker befriended after leaving a respite home the day before he disappeared.

"I don't think it is a coincidence. I think these 16-year-old boys have some information about where he is," Kerr said on December 1st.

But neither Brace, who confronted Kerr on the street in Albany two weeks ago as he handed out reward flyers, believe it.

"He's trying to use that reverse psychology and say he is down here," said Brace.

"It was something that was perpetrated in the very first days of Jaliek's disappearance as a smokescreen, as some sort of story," said Dennis Smith, Rainwalker's Grandfather.

Barbara Reeley, Jaliek's grandmother, says investigators will make announcement about the case this week. But she says no matter what the announcement is, they will continue their search for Jaliek, a boy no one has seen in two-and-a-half months.

http://www.capitalnews9.com/content/headlines/?SecID=33&ArID=229429

[huskiki]

Press Conf going on now ...

Police to unveil new details in Jaliek case

GREENWICH - Police have scheduled a news conference this afternoon in Greenwich to announce new developments in the case of a missing 12-year-old boy.

Jaliek Rainwalker has been missing since the beginning of November. His father, Stephen Kerr, was the last person to have seen him.

Police and other family members have said Kerr has not told them all he knows about Jaliek's disappearance.

Police are expected to show some surveillance tape today of a van they believe Stephen Kerr was driving on the night the boy disappeared.

Kerr had told police he was in bed at the time of the boy's disappearance.

http://wnyt.com/article/stories/S312827.shtml?cat=300

[huskiki]

GREENWICH, N.Y. -- No one has been formally charged yet in the disappearance of 12-year-old Jaliek Rainwalker, but at a news conference on Monday, authorities said the boy's adoptive father, Stephen Kerr, is a "person of interest" in the case.

Jaliek was last seen on Nov. 1 with Kerr.

Police said there are not only inconsistencies with Kerr's story but that he has not been fully cooperative with authorities.

He has reportedly refused to take a polygraph test from the FBI and has also failed to answer a questionnaire from them.

Cambridge-Greenwich Police Chief George Bell said, "With a missing 12-year-old, it's his son, he should be more forthcoming. There should be no reason for him not to cooperate with the police at this point."

State Police Lieutenant Scott Coburn said, "He was the last one to see Jaliek. His wife has taken a polygraph. He has declined so, yes, he has set himself apart from everyone else."

For his part, Kerr has suggested that Jaliek may be involved in gang activity in the Albany area.

But police said with a $25,000 reward being offered, they believe gang members would have come forward by now to collect the cash if they knew where the boy was.

Anyone with information on the whereabouts of Jaliek Rainwalker is asked to contact the Cambridge-Greenwich Police Department.

http://www.capitalnews9.com/content/headlines/?SecID=33&ArID=229485

[huskiki]

http://timesunion.com/AspStories/story.asp?storyID=655245&category=SARATOGA&BCCode=HOME&newsdate=1/15/2008

[omsk99]

"Polygraph test becomes issue in case of long-missing Jaliek Rainwalker"

http://timesunion.com/AspStories/story.asp?storyID=655312&category=FRONTPG&BCCode=HOME&newsdate=1/15/2008

[huskiki]

Psychics in search for boy

"Intuitives" fail to turn up new information in Jaliek Rainwalker case

Three psychics joined the search for 12-year-old Jaliek Rainwalker last week, but information they offered officials about the missing boy failed to best anything offered by basic police science.

According to relatives, two of the psychics, or "intuitives" as they prefer to be called, had similar visions of where Rainwalker's body might be, which led to a meeting with police, relatives, a third psychic and searchers last Thursday.

The group visited wooded sites in Greenwich not far from the Cossayuna home Rainwalker shared with his adoptive parents and four siblings.

The search turned up nothing.

But it highlights the fact that 10 weeks since the boy was last seen, police still have virtually no clue as to where Rainwalker, missing since Nov. 1, might be.

"If someone contacts us and says they have a vision, and it fits in to where we believe (Rainwalker) might be, and we have someone who can go with them, yes, we'll do a search," said George Bell, chief of the Greenwich-Cambridge Police Department, who is in charge of the Rainwalker investigation. He readily admits his frustrations with the case.

Elaine Person, who has provided respite care for the emotionally troubled Rainwalker and saw him a day before he disappeared, said she appreciates any help she can find. She defended the use of psychics.

"I like to keep an open mind," she said. "When you have a child who is missing, you owe it to that child to use every resource at your disposal," she said. "And, who's to say that maybe people have access to a kind of information that the rest of us don't have?"

So many psychics have been contacting Rainwalker's relatives and police that the Web site about the search, www.findjaliek.org, includes a link inviting intuitives to contact them by e-mail.

Meanwhile, Rainwalker's adoptive father, Stephen Kerr, is trying to move the family to West Rupert, Vt., about 10 miles east of their Washington County home. That information was reported by WNYT NewsChannel 13 and confirmed by Bell, who said he has been speaking with Kerr daily for the last several weeks.

Someone who answered Kerr's cellphone on Thursday said Kerr was not available to talk.

Rainwalker went missing after spending the night of Nov. 1 alone with Kerr at Kerr's father's home in Greenwich. Kerr's father, Graham, was out of the country at the time.

Rainwalker, who has a long history of emotional problems and outbursts, had just spent five days with Elaine and Tom Person of Altamont, who cared for Jaliek for several days at a time to provide respite to the family.

The relationship had grown so stressful, in fact, that Kerr and wife Jocelyn McDonald were planning to undo their adoption of Rainwalker at the time he disappeared. It's not clear how far along they were in that process the night of Nov. 1.

When Kerr awoke Nov. 2, he said he found a note in Rainwalker's handwriting, in which he apologized for hurting people. Kerr said the note is proof his son ran away from home. Elaine Person believes the note was a homework assignment Rainwalker completed while at her house. Rainwalker had to apologize for allegedly making a sexually explicit threat to a 4-year-old in the family's home-school group.
Kerr has said he believes that his son is living with an "African-American gang or family" in Albany, Schenectady or Troy. Rainwalker is biracial and has always been fascinated with black culture, said Kerr, who is white. Police said there is no evidence to support Kerr's theory.

On Monday, Bell and State Police investigators announced Kerr is a person of interest in the case, though there is not enough evidence to charge Kerr with a crime. Police said they have an image from a surveillance camera that captured the image of a van similar to one Kerr was driving on the night of Rainwalker's disappearance. Police want to re-examine the van but Kerr has denied their request.

http://www.timesunion.com/AspStories/story.asp?storyID=656294&TextPage=1

[huskiki]

GREENWICH, N.Y. - There is yet another twist in the Jaliek Rainwalker case. Rainwalker's adoptive parents are now in the process of moving out of the state.

Police confirm that Stephen Kerr and Jocelyn McDonald have put a bid on a house in West Rupert, Vermont, which is right across the Vermont-New York border.

They had been living in a home in East Greenwich, but most recently had been staying in Kerr's father's house on Hill Street in the Village of Greenwich.

Greenwich Police Chief George Bell said he has received calls from people in Rupert expressing concern that the couple and their children plan on moving into their neighborhood. He said he received a call from the woman who owns the house as well, expressing her concern.

Kerr was named a person of interest in the case on Monday because he was the last person to see Jaliek alive, and police said he has been uncooperative with them in their investigation.

He has refused two lie detector tests and will not give police access to his father's van, which he was driving the night Jaliek disappeared. Police want the van to try and match it to a van shown in a bank surveillance video back on the night Jaliek disappeared.

Calls out to Kerr and McDonald have not been returned.

http://www.capitalnews9.com/content/headlines/?SecID=33&ArID=229791


I'm sorry but if your child is missing you don't pick up and move. Especially if you beleive him to be alive like Kerr and McDonald do! :cuss:

[Mandysmom]

Why can't police get access to Kerr's van? Can't they get a court order or warrant or something?

That is just nuts.

:flamemad:

[huskiki]

Originally posted by Mandysmom
Why can't police get access to Kerr's van? Can't they get a court order or warrant or something?

That is just nuts.

:flamemad: [/*]

Nuts is an understatement!

LE cannot obtain a warrent because Kerr is just a POI. If he was a suspect then they could get the warrent. The system is so messed up! :flamemad:

[Cheri_G]

Originally posted by Mandysmom
Why can't police get access to Kerr's van? Can't they get a court order or warrant or something?

That is just nuts.

:flamemad: [/*]

They would have to name Kerr as a suspect in order to get a warrant for the van. Apparently they don't feel they have the evidence to name him as a suspect.

But the news conference highlighted just how little physical evidence police have in the 10-week-old investigation. There is not enough evidence to name a suspect in the case, and police can only get a search warrant for the van if they name Kerr as a suspect, Bell said.


Times Union
http://timesunion.com/AspStories/story.asp?storyID=655245&category=SARATOGA&BCCode=HOME&newsdate=1/15/2008



What I don't understand is why they don't think they have enough to name Kerr as a suspect. He was the last to see Jaliek, he's refused a lie detector test, and they say they have security camera footage putting him someplace other than where he says he was the night of Nov 1. Why isn't that enough?

[huskiki]

I missed this article from 01/15/08

Father refuses to allow search
Officials name Kerr ‘person of interest’ in Jaliek’s disappearance

GREENWICH -- Police on Monday said the adoptive father of Jaliek Rainwalker has refused to allow them to reinspect a minivan he drives -- a van he was using the night Jaliek disappeared.

Police said they believe another inspection of the van may poke holes in Stephen Kerr's attempt to establish an alibi in the case.

Cambridge-Greenwich Police Chief George Bell said a surveillance camera videotaped Kerr in that van "at a time that does not match up to Stephen's version of events."

Neither Bell nor State Police would elaborate, but a police source familiar with the case said the surveillance camera at Glens Falls National Bank in Greenwich videotaped a van similar to Kerr's with a man driving the night Jaliek was last seen, at a time Kerr told police he was at his father's home in the village of Greenwich.

The release of information related to the gold Chrysler Town & Country van came at a press conference in the case Monday, during which police also for the first time branded Kerr a "person of interest" and stepped up rhetoric in the case.

Police asked that anyone in the public with knowledge about Kerr's whereabouts on Nov. 1 and 2 call them.

State Police Lt. Scott Coburn said police want to look over the van to compare it to the van on the videotape.

"It would either alibi Stephen or indicate he was being less than truthful," Coburn said.

Authorities acknowledged they had the van during the first days of the investigation, but said they needed to look at it again.

Police also disclosed that Kerr:

- Waited nearly 90 minutes to report Jaliek missing on Nov. 2. Kerr told police he found what he deemed a "suicide or runaway" note at 7:30 a.m. that day, but called police at 8:57 a.m. Police would not say what his explanation is, and his lawyer, Jeffrey McMorris, said he did not know either, but that it was impossible to recall every moment of a day 2-1/2 months ago.

- Has not completed an FBI questionnaire designed to help investigators get more information about the 12-year-old Jaliek and his "mental state" before he disappeared. Kerr's wife did complete the survey, Bell said.

- Told police that people in Albany told him on Dec. 30 that they had seen Jaliek there, but Kerr did not get their contact information, and said he gave them fliers with the police phone number on them. Bell said no one has called based on that account, and he asked that anyone who may have spoken to Kerr in Albany that day call police.

Bell said Monday investigators have followed 325 leads in the case, and reiterated that Kerr has refused to take lie-detector tests offered by the State Police and FBI.

Coburn said Kerr's comments that he was mistreated by State Police on the day he went to Loudonville to take a polygraph test, then backed out at the last minute, were false.

"He should be more cooperative. There should be no reason not to cooperate with police," the chief said.

"He was the last person seen with Jaliek. He has set himself apart from everybody else," Coburn said.

The police also made it clear they will continue investigating until they have answers as to what happened to Jaliek.

"We're here representing Jaliek, and we will find out the truth," Coburn said.

McMorris seemed to take exception later Monday to comments about Kerr's lack of cooperation, saying his client "has cooperated every way he can to help get Jaliek home."

He said police had the minivan for four days during November, and have not been given access to it again because the reasons they have given "make absolutely no sense."

"You're telling me they don't have 600 pictures of that van?" he asked.

He said police should provide him with a copy of the surveillance videotape if they want to see the van.

He also said police have not released a police report on the case to Kerr, or otherwise kept Kerr informed as to the status of the investigation.

Kerr did not return a phone message left on his cell phone voice mail Monday afternoon. No one answered the door at the Hill Street, Greenwich, home where he has lived with his wife and other children in recent weeks.

Police said Kerr and his wife, Jocelyn McDonald, are in the process of purchasing a home in West Rupert, Vt.

Cambridge-Greenwich Police can be reached at 692-9332.

http://www.poststar.com/articles/2008/01/15/news/local/13256129.txt#blogcomments