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Kat4Eagles
10-10-2007, 01:17 PM
You are all slacking, today would have been Jason and Michelle's 4th wedding anniversary.
I read their engagement story over at The Knot again, and once again saw how the rumors of a shotgun wedding were not true.
Since when does someone grab someone's hand, get down on one knee and propose and that makes it shotgun!!!!
October could be big, we have the only sister's birthday coming up too.
Should be an interesting month, I would think, leading up to the 1 year anniversary of this brutal unsolved crime...
I am not going to list all the things that have been overlooked by so many that are so focused on Jason, but there are many.
Just the fact that he always parked his car in the driveway, because the garage was filled with the boat and Michelle's car,
would have made it clear to anyone he was not home that nite.
The fact that even though there was no forced entry, does not mean it wasn't because a door or window was not accidentally left open.
In fact, in a report linked here, someone who was profiling the case, slipped up and said there was an open door.
I will try to catch Lindsey on that one, and see if she still has that link.
Basically , you still got nothing, L E has nothing or at least not enough after all this time, months, and months and months...
I was thinking if I were the Fishers and Michelle was my murdered loved one, and L E could not find the killer, I would be at the point to bring in outsiders to head up a new investigative team....
Jason clearly can not shed any new light on anything that happened @ 5108 Birchleaf Drive that nite/am, since he was not there.
Signed...
A very confident Kat......
springflowers35
10-10-2007, 01:29 PM
JaneTruth
Senior Member
I recently found out that any time a 911 call is about a death, the call is looked into quite seriously.
So is the demeanor of the witnesses, and that of the person who makes the call.
The call had to be made, and, to get my teen son away from the scene, I asked him to make the call. He and I were questioned very closely, together and then separately. We each had to write out a report in longhand, and those were compared.
I'm sure the resident "hinky 911 call experts" would have had us both labeled killers in very short order. The police, on the other hand, were able to tell that we were telling the truth.
springflowers35
Senior Member
You all are so brave and strong. I admire both of you.
JT, so what you are telling us is, both you AND your son were questioned? LE looked at YOU?
Why didn't you just lawyer up and let LE do their job? Oh, I bet because you were INNOCENT? Thanks for making a great point.
heathen
10-10-2007, 01:39 PM
Originally posted by scout
If you were the Fishers? What about if you were Jason? Why shouldn't Jason be the one to bring in a private investigative team? He's the bereaved husband. He's the next of kin. What is Jason doing to find the killer?
What exactly are you confident of Kat -- that Jason will get away with murder?
And don't attempt to answer with that Jason was not there at that time of night bs. Linda and Meredith Fisher were not there either. Jason is every bit as much obligated to do everything possible to help find the killer as do Linda and Meredith. He is shirking that responsibility. Why? Because he is a lousy husband or because he killed Michelle? [/*]
Brava! I vote for both a lousy husband AND he killed Michelle. Jason Lynn Young is good at shirking his responsibilities, it's a pattern with him. Heck, he still hasn't put a headstone on Michelle's grave, how can we expect him to begin a private investigation into his wife's murder?
on the go
10-10-2007, 01:43 PM
The 4th anniversary is traditionally flowers. Perhaps JY will send an arrangement to the cemetary - no wait -- he has until November 2nd to do that. IMO
Kat4Eagles
10-10-2007, 01:44 PM
Originally posted by scout
If you were the Fishers? What about if you were Jason? Why shouldn't Jason be the one to bring in a private investigative team? He's the bereaved husband. He's the next of kin. What is Jason doing to find the killer?
What exactly are you confident of Kat -- that Jason will get away with murder?
And don't attempt to answer with that Jason was not there at that time of night bs. Linda and Meredith Fisher were not there either. Jason is every bit as much obligated to do everything possible to help find the killer as do Linda and Meredith. He is shirking that responsibility. Why? Because he is a lousy husband or because he killed Michelle? [/*]
I would have been so much more impressed if the Board had stayed with the facts and not spread so many untrue rumors about Jason and Michelle, especially since no one here knows anything and those who do can not post for legal reasons.
Take the shotgun wedding rumor for example..
*Definition........a expression referring to a type of wedding which is arranged not because of the desire of the participants, but to avoid embarrassment of an unintentional pregnancy...
*See forced wedding....a term used to describe a marriage in which one of the the parties is married without his/her consent or against their will....
Remember that rumor?
So, Jason married Michelle 2x not wanting to.....uh huh.....
And, then they posed for pictures, used their dog for their best man, and wrote a cute story on The Knot just to try and make it look good.
*Source.Wikipedia.
This was just nothing but another attempt to make Jason look bad.
And, it also added up to nothing along with everything else that has been posted here.
Nothing to get an indictment, nothing to go in front of the GJ with, nothing to get an arrest and nothing that will ever lead to his conviction....
Why?
Because he did not do it..because he could not be in two places at the same time, no matter how hard you tried to work the timeline, no matter how hard you try to make him the killer, it did not fit.
JMO
Kat
Kat4Eagles
10-10-2007, 01:45 PM
Originally posted by Kat4Eagles
You are all slacking, today would have been Jason and Michelle's 4th wedding anniversary.
I read their engagement story over at The Knot again, and once again saw how the rumors of a shotgun wedding were not true.
Since when does someone grab someone's hand, get down on one knee and propose and that makes it shotgun!!!!
October could be big, we have the only sister's birthday coming up too.
Should be an interesting month, I would think, leading up to the 1 year anniversary of this brutal unsolved crime...
I am not going to list all the things that have been overlooked by so many that are so focused on Jason, but there are many.
Just the fact that he always parked his car in the driveway, because the garage was filled with the boat and Michelle's car,
would have made it clear to anyone he was not home that nite.
The fact that even though there was no forced entry, does not mean it wasn't because a door or window was not accidentally left open.
In fact, in a report linked here, someone who was profiling the case, slipped up and said there was an open door.
I will try to catch Lindsey on that one, and see if she still has that link.
Basically , you still got nothing, L E has nothing or at least not enough after all this time, months, and months and months...
I was thinking if I were the Fishers and Michelle was my murdered loved one, and L E could not find the killer, I would be at the point to bring in outsiders to head up a new investigative team....
Jason clearly can not shed any new light on anything that happened @ 5108 Birchleaf Drive that nite/am, since he was not there.
Signed...
A very confident Kat...... [/*]
ETA
Forgot my JMO on this......
:)
Kat
Kat4Eagles
10-10-2007, 02:17 PM
Originally posted by willow_1
I see you brought this over from the other page,I was wondering if they ever arrested any one in Jane's husbands death. [/*]
Hi Willow,
I am lost on this one, who died and how are/were they related to Michelle?
??
JMO
Kat
Kat4Eagles
10-10-2007, 02:22 PM
Originally posted by scout
Keep dreaming, Kat. Despite your delusions of grandeur, nobody's purpose here is to try to impress you.
You know what the problem is with your little fairy tale about Jason and Michelle's marriage? It's that Jason himself frequently expressed to friends that he was miserable in the marriage and never would have married Michelle had she not gotten pregnant. It will all come out at trial, Kat. Keep that extra nic handy -- you know, the one you post with from the other side of the fence. You're going to need it.
moo [/*]
Yep, I read the one where Jason tells people that Michelle is driving him crazy and he does not know what to do with her.
That would be really be smart to say, considering you were planning to kill her....
I know you are not accusing me of being another poster, I barely have time to be this one, and CW does not like false accusations..so...who would I be?... Lindsey, maybe?
That would actually be a honor...
:)
Kat
JMO
springflowers35
10-10-2007, 02:25 PM
Originally posted by willow_1
I see you brought this over from the other page,I was wondering if they ever arrested any one in Jane's husbands death. [/*]
No. They didn't. Did they in yours?
springflowers35
10-10-2007, 02:38 PM
Originally posted by willow_1
Well that was a hateful post. My husband died after a long illness. I never got on here and posted that the police questioned me and my son. I am sorry if I was curious about her husbands death. She brought it up I didn't. [/*]
Well, I am sure she won't pack up her toys and leave because you asked her. Sound familiar?
Curious is one thing. Having a little compassion is another. You should try it.
The point she was making is that all the ones who aren't smart enough to think that LE knows what happened in that 911 call need to think again. LE cleared her almost immediately, just the same way they did Meredith ;)
jmo
springflowers35
10-10-2007, 02:52 PM
Willow, I am going to ask you this as plainly as I can. Hopefully you will understand.
If someone commits suicide, who exactly is the killer?
lilismom
10-10-2007, 02:54 PM
Originally posted by Kat4Eagles
This was just nothing but another attempt to make Jason look bad.
And, it also added up to nothing along with everything else that has been posted here.
Nothing to get an indictment, nothing to go in front of the GJ with, nothing to get an arrest and nothing that will ever lead to his conviction....
Why?
Because he did not do it..because he could not be in two places at the same time, no matter how hard you tried to work the timeline, no matter how hard you try to make him the killer, it did not fit.
JMO
Kat [/*]
Snipped.
Why are you here then? If nothing posted here amounts to anything and you're convinced he's innocent why are you here? Gotta be pretty boring for you. Why bother? :shrug:
IMO,
Lilismom
Bellatrix
10-10-2007, 03:01 PM
Originally posted by Kat4Eagles
You are all slacking, today would have been Jason and Michelle's 4th wedding anniversary.
I read their engagement story over at The Knot again, and once again saw how the rumors of a shotgun wedding were not true.
Since when does someone grab someone's hand, get down on one knee and propose and that makes it shotgun!!!!
October could be big, we have the only sister's birthday coming up too.
Should be an interesting month, I would think, leading up to the 1 year anniversary of this brutal unsolved crime...
I am not going to list all the things that have been overlooked by so many that are so focused on Jason, but there are many.
Just the fact that he always parked his car in the driveway, because the garage was filled with the boat and Michelle's car,
would have made it clear to anyone he was not home that nite.
The fact that even though there was no forced entry, does not mean it wasn't because a door or window was not accidentally left open.
In fact, in a report linked here, someone who was profiling the case, slipped up and said there was an open door.
I will try to catch Lindsey on that one, and see if she still has that link.
Basically , you still got nothing, L E has nothing or at least not enough after all this time, months, and months and months...
I was thinking if I were the Fishers and Michelle was my murdered loved one, and L E could not find the killer, I would be at the point to bring in outsiders to head up a new investigative team....
Jason clearly can not shed any new light on anything that happened @ 5108 Birchleaf Drive that nite/am, since he was not there.
Signed...
A very confident Kat...... [/*]
Kat,
I agree, whether or not Jason and Michelle had a shot gun wedding has nothing to do with the case. I know plenty of people who have had shot gun weddings, some of them are still married, some of them are not, but none of the marriages have ended in murder.
I also think that if I were LF or MF I would hire some outside investigator to help with the case. The question is why hasn’t JY hired outside help? If my husband were murdered I would not let anyone rest until the killer was caught. I would hire outside help, go to the media, post on boards, and anything else I could do to help solve the case. Why is Jason letting the case go cold? Why isn’t he pestering LE to solve the case?
springflowers35
10-10-2007, 03:01 PM
Originally posted by lilismom
Snipped.
Why are you here then? If nothing posted here amounts to anything and you're convinced he's innocent why are you here? Gotta be pretty boring for you. Why bother? :shrug:
IMO,
Lilismom [/*]
It's not so bad when you play boths sides though, is it?
Kat4Eagles
10-10-2007, 03:05 PM
Originally posted by lilismom
Snipped.
Why are you here then? If nothing posted here amounts to anything and you're convinced he's innocent why are you here? Gotta be pretty boring for you. Why bother? :shrug:
IMO,
Lilismom [/*]
I have every right to be here, you were not implying otherwise , were you?
I am interested in finding out who killed Michelle, and I will keep my suspect list open on anyone and everyone, just like L E said they were doing..!
:shrug:
JMO
Kat
lilismom
10-10-2007, 03:11 PM
Originally posted by Kat4Eagles
I have every right to be here, you were not implying otherwise , were you?
I am interested in finding out who killed Michelle, and I will keep my suspect list open on anyone and everyone, just like L E said they were doing..!
:shrug:
JMO
Kat [/*]
I wasn't implying anything. I said exactly what I meant.
Who is on that list then?
IMO,
Lilismom
Kat4Eagles
10-10-2007, 03:18 PM
Originally posted by Bellatrix
Kat,
I agree, whether or not Jason and Michelle had a shot gun wedding has nothing to do with the case. I know plenty of people who have had shot gun weddings, some of them are still married, some of them are not, but none of the marriages have ended in murder.
I also think that if I were LF or MF I would hire some outside investigator to help with the case. The question is why hasn’t JY hired outside help? If my husband were murdered I would not let anyone rest until the killer was caught. I would hire outside help, go to the media, post on boards, and anything else I could do to help solve the case. Why is Jason letting the case go cold? Why isn’t he pestering LE to solve the case? [/*]
If you were to take these rumors that were posted here apart one by one, you will see there is not much of a case.....and no truth to them....
There is clearly no motive...............
Insurance money is not going to be paid out in a suspicous death, not with the case being unsolved..
I looked at it your way, but there are just so many unanswered questions and other possible theories, that I would be closeminded at this point to zero in on any one person without any facts , proof or evidence to support it.....
It is pretty obvious that L E thought Jason was the killer when they found out he was not at home when the crime took place, and have tried to connect him back to the scene.....
The rumors started and L E thought it would be easy.
When did it begun complex and why?
And, no one ever can tell me where Michelle's rings are?
Why??
JMO
Kat
Kat4Eagles
10-10-2007, 03:20 PM
Originally posted by lilismom
I wasn't implying anything. I said exactly what I meant.
Who is on that list then?
IMO,
Lilismom [/*]
Could be anyone.........and more than one person....
:shrug:
JMO
Kat
Bellatrix
10-10-2007, 03:47 PM
Originally posted by Kat4Eagles
Could be anyone.........and more than one person....
:shrug:
JMO
Kat [/*]
Do you think it was someone she knew?
laurenj
10-10-2007, 03:52 PM
hey all!:seeya: I'm sorry but I live only 20 miles from Raleigh and to 100% honest I kind of heard a little about this story..what happened (briefly). This is kind of like wow to me */c I watch the news all of the time and Court TV. Sorry :(
Kat4Eagles
10-10-2007, 04:03 PM
Originally posted by Bellatrix
Do you think it was someone she knew? [/*]
Hard to say unless you were there.
The timing around Halloween, and the nature of the killing has always led me to believe it was not well thought out, that it may have started out as a robbery that went wrong......
If the intruder thought they only had to get in and get out without being caught, maybe they were under the impression there were more valuables there than their were.
And the house would be an easy target with Jason gone....
I think it is pretty unlikely anyone was set up or framed or to keep saying that L E is still just focusing on Jason....
They would have never let Progress Energy come forward with the Reward Poster asking for help, if they did not need something.
It makes the investigation look weak to come out 8-9 months later asking for help.
There is also the possibility that it was someone who knew Michelle and hated her and was strung out enough to be capable of this kind of gruesome killing...
Clearly, this killing was by someone deranged.
Once again, I don't know..but then again, either do any of you....
:shrug:
JMO
Kat
Kat4Eagles
10-10-2007, 04:29 PM
Originally posted by Rios, A
Thank-you for being a voice of reason. It's refreshing. imo [/*]
You are welcome, Rios, I enjoy what you bring here too...
I can not help wondering again and again, if there was anything, anything at all to connect Jason to this, that they ( L E) would not have acted by now, and/or removed " C: from his care..
No one is going to sit back and let a child be raised by a murderer...
There would be steps taken to assure her safety if they
( L E or CPS) thought she was a witness or in any danger....
So, I would throw out that "Daddy did it" with yesterday's newspaper.
But,if it makes them happy to think she said that...why don't they then ask why L E has not arrested Jason?
:)
JMO
Kat
QueenBee
10-10-2007, 04:39 PM
Kat,
I highly doubt that someone is going to post on an engagement website that "We are getting married because I knocked her up" Don't you think they would of dressed up the tale of the engagement ??
How do you know that his car was not the driveway that night? How do you know whether there was anyone's car in the driveway that night/early morning? Unless you know someone in EO or are LE....you don't!
IMO
Kat4Eagles
10-10-2007, 04:51 PM
Originally posted by QueenBee
Kat,
I highly doubt that someone is going to post on an engagement website that "We are getting married because I knocked her up" Don't you think they would of dressed up the tale of the engagement ??
How do you know that his car was not the driveway that night? How do you know whether there was anyone's car in the driveway that night/early morning? Unless you know someone in EO or are LE....you don't!
IMO [/*]
I am talking about the rumors that were posted here saying that Jason did not want to marry Michelle, that she ruined his life and that he hated and resented her for that...thus, a motive to kill her.
Those rumors.......
I was also talking about "if" it were a robbery, and Jason's car was not in the driveway as it would usually be at nite..the home would become an easy target,
There were pics of the garage which showed that between Michelle parking her car and the boat being stored there, that Jason would probably be in the habit of parking in the driveway....maybe on the street, for all I know....
I don't know who came and went after the GA friend left, maybe they ordered a pizza ...
We do know a killer(s) showed up, car, skateboard, bike, motorcycle, parachute?
I don't know anyone in Enchanted Oaks, or L E or anyone even remotely connected to the case, but then again, I never said I did.
:)
JMO
Kat
Originally posted by Kat4Eagles
You are welcome, Rios, I enjoy what you bring here too...
I can not help wondering again and again, if there was anything, anything at all to connect Jason to this, that they ( L E) would not have acted by now, and/or removed " C: from his care..
No one is going to sit back and let a child be raised by a murderer...
There would be steps taken to assure her safety if they
( L E or CPS) thought she was a witness or in any danger....
So, I would throw out that "Daddy did it" with yesterday's newspaper.
But,if it makes them happy to think she said that...why don't they then ask why L E has not arrested Jason?
:)
JMO
Kat [/*] Kat, I agree with you on this point. IF LE were fairly certain that Jason had some part of this. Then they should have brought CPS in. The little girl was left in a horrible situation for many hours. If Jason had no concern about his child after he found out about Michelles death, I would think that would have been enough for CPS to step in. He may not have to talk to LE but CPS is an entirely different matter. He would have had to have spoken with them. I would think, I don't know the laws in NC though. But thats JMO
lilismom
10-10-2007, 05:05 PM
Originally posted by Kat4Eagles
You are welcome, Rios, I enjoy what you bring here too...
I can not help wondering again and again, if there was anything, anything at all to connect Jason to this, that they ( L E) would not have acted by now, and/or removed " C: from his care..
No one is going to sit back and let a child be raised by a murderer...
There would be steps taken to assure her safety if they
( L E or CPS) thought she was a witness or in any danger....
So, I would throw out that "Daddy did it" with yesterday's newspaper.
But,if it makes them happy to think she said that...why don't they then ask why L E has not arrested Jason?
:)
JMO
Kat [/*]
For the record, I don't hear "daddy did it".
I'm sure there is "something" maybe even a lot of "somethings" that connect JY to this crime. The question is, is the "something" enough to prove it beyond a reasonable doubt? Obviously not. I think, no I hope, that if LE is looking in another direction, say a stranger/intruder, they would be asking for the public's help by now.
If JY did this and if that is who LE believes did it, they already know he's not a baby killer, at least not one who has actually been born.
IMO,
Lilismom
Kat4Eagles
10-10-2007, 05:19 PM
Originally posted by JHP
Kat, I agree with you on this point. IF LE were fairly certain that Jason had some part of this. Then they should have brought CPS in. The little girl was left in a horrible situation for many hours. If Jason had no concern about his child after he found out about Michelles death, I would think that would have been enough for CPS to step in. He may not have to talk to LE but CPS is an entirely different matter. He would have had to have spoken with them. I would think, I don't know the laws in NC though. But thats JMO [/*]
Cool, at least we agree on something...:)
I think Jason was reassured from the beginning that "C" was okay and unharmed and would be waiting for him upon his arrival back in Raleigh.........
Now,if the child saw him and reacted to him in a strange way, then that would have been very telling.
"C" wouls have screamed and refused to go near him if she had witnessed him killing her Mother....
No one seems to see the logic in that though, that she did not react that way and therefore witnessed nothing.
Except for the statement Mommy has boo~boo's everywhere , wounds that were evident even to a little 2 year old, but not to a 26 year old....
:shrug:
JMO
Kat
Kat4Eagles
10-10-2007, 05:21 PM
Originally posted by lilismom
For the record, I don't hear "daddy did it".
I'm sure there is "something" maybe even a lot of "somethings" that connect JY to this crime. The question is, is the "something" enough to prove it beyond a reasonable doubt? Obviously not. I think, no I hope, that if LE is looking in another direction, say a stranger/intruder, they would be asking for the public's help by now.
If JY did this and if that is who LE believes did it, they already know he's not a baby killer, at least not one who has actually been born.
IMO,
Lilismom [/*]
L E did ask for help when they agreed to let Progress Energy place the Reward Poster asking for information.
JMO
Kat
Originally posted by Kat4Eagles
Cool, at least we agree on something...:)
I think Jason was reassured from the beginning that "C" was okay and unharmed and would be waiting for him upon his arrival back in Raleigh.........
Now,if the child saw him and reacted to him in a strange way, then that would have been very telling.
"C" wouls have screamed and refused to go near him if she had witnessed him killing her Mother....
No one seems to see the logic in that though, that she did not react that way and therefore witnessed nothing.
Except for the statement Mommy has boo~boo's everywhere , wounds that were evident even to a little 2 year old, but not to a 26 year old....
:shrug:
JMO
Kat [/*] Yes, but my point was LE probably could have had an opportunity in CPS to talk to Jason. Who reassured him? Did he talk to Cassidy? There is so much we don't know. I hope Cassidy did not see whomever did this to her mother. We may never know. Didn't the Brevard family arrive late in the evening? She could have been asleep. And I know you think the 911 is unusal. But remember Cassidy spent hours with her mom trying to get her to wake up I imagine. Meredith walked in on the nightmare. Once she found her sister it was probably only seconds until she called 911. This is all JMO. And extemly heartbreaking when you think about it.
singaporesling
10-10-2007, 05:38 PM
I do not have any problem with Meredith and the 911 call and don't understand how anyone could call her voice "flat".
For anyone who thinks so should listen to the 911 tape of the mother of Erin Stanley (Erin is the first of 2 teen sisters to die suspiciously in one week) who called 911 when she discovered her daughter's body.
I would love to hear your thoughts on that call.
Kat4Eagles
10-10-2007, 05:44 PM
Originally posted by Rios, A
The problem is LE doesn't want the community to think an intruder/ murderer is still out there, I think they realize they'd look pretty bad given they focused on JY from day one. imo [/*]
What bothers me the most is that they never came out and gave an updated opinion/version on what they think happened...
They started the case slow, stating that they would take their time, something to the effect "when we get there, we will know we are there" and I always wondered why they were not more in a hurry to catch the person(s) who did this..
They led us to beleive they were being methodical and precise, and then overlooked a tooth and did not perform the s/a kit.
They have never held a press conference stating their confidence.
Maybe on Nov 2nd, the anniversary, they will do something , anything to let us know again what track they are on..
There are so many people that knew Michelle , I just found a Roxboro connection....so many sorority sisters , etc.
It seems that everyone that Michelle and Jason knew also excelled in their jobs, are very ambitious, and career oriented....all very professional people, and once again it makes me think of someone who is waitressing and just seems content wasting her college education....
So, how did she fit in with the crowd that filled Michelle's house?
Was she invited to the homecoming weekend?
:shrugs:
JMO
Kat
JustFacts
10-10-2007, 06:32 PM
Originally posted by scout
Keep dreaming, Kat. Despite your delusions of grandeur, nobody's purpose here is to try to impress you.
You know what the problem is with your little fairy tale about Jason and Michelle's marriage? It's that Jason himself frequently expressed to friends that he was miserable in the marriage and never would have married Michelle had she not gotten pregnant. It will all come out at trial, Kat. Keep that extra nic handy -- you know, the one you post with from the other side of the fence. You're going to need it.
moo [/*]
Do you have a link to what Jason Young has told his friends?
Kat4Eagles
10-10-2007, 06:39 PM
Originally posted by JustFacts
Do you have a link to what Jason Young has told his friends? [/*]
Good question, bet you won't get a straight answer...
He keeps all his info top secret......
Just like the house being in foreclosure...
Or Jason being late to his meeting.
Or the boat .
Or the shotgun wedding theory blown to pieces...
Or the missing rings..
Just no links..
Some things and some people just can not be accounted for..
:)
JMO
Kat
Kat4Eagles
10-10-2007, 06:41 PM
Originally posted by cojack
I wouldn't be so quick to count my chickens before they hatch. (JMO) [/*]
Not for nothing,but if those eggs haven't hatched in almost a year, I wouldn't be counting the days until they do...
:)
JMO
Kat
Kat4Eagles
10-10-2007, 06:56 PM
Originally posted by rstarrg
To think that someone would come from far away, commit this crime and then disappear back to where he came from sounds like murder for hire to me. Usually, there would be no reason to warn the public in that situation. I don't think it's typical for a spouse to crack, especially when they have an attorney and are not being questioned. It's usually an investigation and trial where their highly paid defense comes up with some pretty ridiculous theories to point away from their client.
It's definitely not too late....didn't we discuss McGuire on a previous date when it took over a year to make an arrest? [/*]
It is never too late for anything, but it just does not add up that if someone knows who did this to Michelle they would not come forward.
Maybe we should up the reward....
Someone out there can not be functioning very well in real life, now could that possibly be?
Who has changed the most ?
:shrug:
JMO
Kat
Kat4Eagles
10-10-2007, 07:11 PM
Originally posted by JHP
Yes, but my point was LE probably could have had an opportunity in CPS to talk to Jason. Who reassured him? Did he talk to Cassidy? There is so much we don't know. I hope Cassidy did not see whomever did this to her mother. We may never know. Didn't the Brevard family arrive late in the evening? She could have been asleep. And I know you think the 911 is unusal. But remember Cassidy spent hours with her mom trying to get her to wake up I imagine. Meredith walked in on the nightmare. Once she found her sister it was probably only seconds until she called 911. This is all JMO. And extemly heartbreaking when you think about it. [/*]
Your last paragraph is going to come back and haunt someone when the crime scene photos are someday released, and the average person can see for themselves the horror that went on in that bedroom and then how someone tried to attribute it to a fall......
Blood everywhere, walls, bed, floor ......anyone would know instantly something horrible happened......
It was a murder scene..and it is going to look like one if and when we get to see it.....and the police, seasoned veterans, described as one of the worst homicides and brutal beatings ever.....
The only sister did not see Michelle's wounds or her broken teeth or any kind of a struggle, or maybe a weapon?
Wow.......
And, you wonder why I have trouble with the 911 call.....
:(
JMO
Kat
karen
10-10-2007, 07:18 PM
Originally posted by Kat4Eagles
It is never too late for anything, but it just does not add up that if someone knows who did this to Michelle they would not come forward.
Maybe we should up the reward....
Someone out there can not be functioning very well in real life, now could that possibly be?
Who has changed the most ?
:shrug:
JMO
Kat [/*]
"Maybe "WE" should up the reward??????
Maybe JY should add a little to the amount that her work already has....what a caring, husband..!!
Ummm, Now, if JY came out of hiding we could tell he has changed the most. JMO:shrug:
Motive.
Motive.
I have asked before, and I will ask again, of those who believe that Meredith killed Michelle.
What is the motive?
Kat4Eagles
10-10-2007, 07:36 PM
Originally posted by karen
"Maybe "WE" should up the reward??????
Maybe JY should add a little to the amount that her work already has....what a caring, husband..!!
Ummm, Now, if JY came out of hiding we could tell he has changed the most. JMO:shrug: [/*]
Wouldn't you kick in some change if it would help find the person or people responsible, or send a donation to C for her college fund, or help set up a scholarship fund in Michelle's name at North Carolina State?
I have never heard Jason was hiding, I was under the impression he went to work each day........
The only reason we know some of what the waitress is doing is because of her screen name......
I don't see her speaking out for Michelle like Denise Brown did for Nicole.
She certainly recovered within the timeframe of 5 months to be selling items on ebay...so much for severe trauma and shock....
It might take the average person a lifetime to recover from the scene she walked into.
You know, you all keep saying that you do not know how you would react if you found the body of your sister murdered, maybe not....
But I do know how I would not act....
I would not be all flirty and trying to be cute on the internet amd posting on other people's websites..
I think I would keep a pretty low profile, or,at least pretend to want some privacy....
You can not blame me for what she writes.
Ask her.
:(
Kat
Ladies and Gentlemen of the jury:
You have seen the photograph of Michelle and Meredith as children, and I point out to you how “pouty” Meredith looks.
You have seen the photographs of Michelle and Meredith as adults, and noticed how much heavier Meredith is than her sister.
You have seen the links to Meredith’s MySpace and eBay sites, and know that Meredith has a life.
You have heard the recording of the 911 call, and I submit to you that her voice is “flat”.
You have seen evidence that Jason and Michelle removed Meredith as Cassidy’s guardian, so, by killing Michelle, Meredith ensured that she would never see her niece again.
You have seen evidence that, despite a college degree, Meredith was making very good money working as a waitress.
Ladies and Gentlemen, you must convict.
………Did I miss anything?
jmo
Kat4Eagles
10-10-2007, 07:43 PM
Originally posted by Rios, A
Rage? Jealousy? Does murder really make sense? :shrug: jmo [/*]
First of all, to call anyone a murderer at this point withour seeing any evidence or proof to back it up, is as senseless as the murder itself...
So, the only sister is a suspect and on the list......
Motive to me, was not planned......
If Michelle was killed by someone who knew her, it was a fight that got out of hand, words were said that could not be taken back, and years of something that had been buiding up took over.
Other than that, the intruder theory works for me......
Now, I will leave you to your case, your Boards, your blogs, etc.
There is nothing new known to us now, anymore, than there was months and months and months and months ago....
:(
JMO
Kat
Kat4Eagles
10-10-2007, 07:50 PM
Originally posted by Dida
Ladies and Gentlemen of the jury:
You have seen the photograph of Michelle and Meredith as children, and I point out to you how “pouty” Meredith looks.
You have seen the photographs of Michelle and Meredith as adults, and noticed how much heavier Meredith is than her sister.
You have seen the links to Meredith’s MySpace and eBay sites, and know that Meredith has a life.
You have heard the recording of the 911 call, and I submit to you that her voice is “flat”.
You have seen evidence that Jason and Michelle removed Meredith as Cassidy’s guardian, so, by killing Michelle, Meredith ensured that she would never see her niece again.
You have seen evidence that, despite a college degree, Meredith was making very good money working as a waitress.
Ladies and Gentlemen, you must convict.
………Did I miss anything?
jmo [/*]
Pouting is putting it nicely, but the rest could work.
Years of watching Michelle get all the attention, and being married and having C and then announcing she was having a baby boy , and having a beautiful home, and being a senior financial adviser, while you are carrying trays of heavy food in a kitchen/restaurant?
Nahh, nothing to be jealous of when compared all her life to your beautiful sister who weighed less than you when she was 5 months pregnant.
Btw, what is her alibi again?
Thannnnxxxxx.
JMO
Kat
Originally posted by Kat4Eagles
Pouting is putting it nicely, but the rest could work.
Years of watching Michelle get all the attention, and being married and having C and then announcing she was having a baby boy , and having a beautiful home, and being a senior financial adviser, while you are carrying trays of heavy food in a kitchen/restaurant?
Nahh, nothing to be jealous of when compared all her life to your beautiful sister who weighed less than you when she was 5 months pregnant.
Btw, what is her alibi again?
Thannnnxxxxx.
JMO
Kat [/*]
Whatever her alibi is, Kat, I am sure LE has vetted it thoroughly. If indeed it were a rage killing, as you suggest, rather than being premeditated, she would hardly have established an alibi. Right?
jmo
trapper
10-10-2007, 08:00 PM
Kat
I have been reading here since the murder of Michelle in November and your remarks about Meredith are SO incredibly cruel and WRONG.... Does it make you feel good to bash the victims sister the way you do? Over and over again. It must be awful to have such a mean heart. and when this is over and you are forced to realize that you were wrong all along, I hope you feel a touch of guilt. I just hope Meredith never reads here.
springflowers35
10-10-2007, 08:19 PM
Originally posted by Dida
Whatever her alibi is, Kat, I am sure LE has vetted it thoroughly. If indeed it were a rage killing, as you suggest, rather than being premeditated, she would hardly have established an alibi. Right?
jmo [/*]
Dida, have you ever rammed your head into a brick wall? You might get further with that than you will reasoning with the people who refuse to open their eyes to see the obvious.
Originally posted by springflowers35
Dida, have you ever rammed your head into a brick wall? You might get further with that than you will reasoning with the people who refuse to open their eyes to see the obvious. [/*]
Hope springs eternal :)
But, to be perfectly honest, I was less trying to reason than highlight the absurdities.
springflowers35
10-10-2007, 08:30 PM
Originally posted by Dida
Hope springs eternal :)
But, to be perfectly honest, I was less trying to reason than highlight the absurdities. [/*]
The funny thing is, those absurdities highlight themselves! Kind of like a neon sign!
indie
10-10-2007, 08:59 PM
Originally posted by trapper
Kat
I have been reading here since the murder of Michelle in November and your remarks about Meredith are SO incredibly cruel and WRONG.... Does it make you feel good to bash the victims sister the way you do? Over and over again. It must be awful to have such a mean heart. and when this is over and you are forced to realize that you were wrong all along, I hope you feel a touch of guilt. I just hope Meredith never reads here. [/*]
Thanks trapper for standing up or should I say posting up for the victim's family.
I believe Kat's taunting, sarcastic and often brutally rude posts say more about Kat than anything else.
Meredith has the truth on her side so in the end she will be blessed with justice for her wonderful sister. Even though the journey is a painful one I know Meredith feels the support from people all over the world following this case.
Blessings and support to Michelle's great sister Meredith
:rose:
Kat4Eagles
10-10-2007, 09:35 PM
Originally posted by trapper
Kat
I have been reading here since the murder of Michelle in November and your remarks about Meredith are SO incredibly cruel and WRONG.... Does it make you feel good to bash the victims sister the way you do? Over and over again. It must be awful to have such a mean heart. and when this is over and you are forced to realize that you were wrong all along, I hope you feel a touch of guilt. I just hope Meredith never reads here. [/*]
I can see how you feel that I am being hard on her, you can only imagine what it felt like to read here she was being arrested on 9 counts of embezzlement from C's funds....
That planted the first seed of doubt,.....even though it was posted she paid it back, it was my first insight to her character.
Time will only tell if there is more to this cover up.
ETA...Do you also feel the same way when people accuse Jason of all kinds of stuff too?
JMO
Kat
singaporesling
10-10-2007, 10:03 PM
Originally posted by trapper
Kat
I have been reading here since the murder of Michelle in November and your remarks about Meredith are SO incredibly cruel and WRONG.... Does it make you feel good to bash the victims sister the way you do? Over and over again. It must be awful to have such a mean heart. and when this is over and you are forced to realize that you were wrong all along, I hope you feel a touch of guilt. I just hope Meredith never reads here. [/*]
Hi trapper,
Great post. You are correct in my opinion. The nastiness against Meredith shows more about them than it does about Meredith.
kat is not the only one bashing her. Did you see the board the day someone accused Meredith of dipping Cassidy's socks in Michelle's blood and made the little footprints that way. That comment is beneath contempt.
I hope Meredith gets a good civil lawyer sues the posters with the horrific and unfounded accusations.
Don't look for a touch of guilt. I think you have to human to experience that.
Hope to see you posting more often.
JustFacts
10-10-2007, 10:30 PM
Originally posted by Kat4Eagles
Pouting is putting it nicely, but the rest could work.
Years of watching Michelle get all the attention, and being married and having C and then announcing she was having a baby boy , and having a beautiful home, and being a senior financial adviser, while you are carrying trays of heavy food in a kitchen/restaurant?
Nahh, nothing to be jealous of when compared all her life to your beautiful sister who weighed less than you when she was 5 months pregnant.
Btw, what is her alibi again?
Thannnnxxxxx.
JMO
Kat [/*]
I doubt Mere has an alibi that will help her overcome her performance on the 911 call. Jury will see right through it.
Barbara2
10-10-2007, 10:40 PM
Originally posted by JaneTruth
why should the jury hear what you hear, and not what I hear? I hear a person on the verge of hysterics, holding herself together by sheer force of will.
I'll lay money on the jury hearing what I hear.
IMO [/*]
I agree. The majority of the jury pool are going to be compassionate human beings like you and I; not like the minority that have no heart and soul. imo
singaporesling
10-10-2007, 10:54 PM
Originally posted by Gracia
Kat I really think you should start your own board, for 'Jasonites'.
Your vile, ignorant, and snide remarks against Michelle's family, mainly her sister, are really very offensive here. And to me they are most disrespectful toward the murder victim, Michelle.
Too bad you weren't taught some basic manners and common courtesies in you formative years. [/*]
I totally agree.
QueenBee
10-10-2007, 11:05 PM
For those of you who think the only sister did this and then brought LF in on it
1. Can you name any case where a sibling killed a sibling and was then assisted by their mother in concealing their involvement?
2. I do not know of a mother that would help their troubled child get away with murdering the "golden child". I have however, heard of mothers who have helped their children conceal their roll in murdering their spouse.
And again I have faith in the WCSO when they say it was not random. I also KNOW that they have not focused soley on Jason as some like to keep repeating. The person responsible has left the area......he's in Brevard!
IMO
JustFacts
10-11-2007, 12:22 AM
Originally posted by Kat4Eagles
I can see how you feel that I am being hard on her, you can only imagine what it felt like to read here she was being arrested on 9 counts of embezzlement from C's funds....
That planted the first seed of doubt,.....even though it was posted she paid it back, it was my first insight to her character.
Time will only tell if there is more to this cover up.
ETA...Do you also feel the same way when people accuse Jason of all kinds of stuff too?
JMO
Kat [/*]
Indeed, if Meredith was stealing from the child's funds that were collected in memory of Michelle it certainly says volumes about Meredith's lack of character and moral integrity. Traits most killers share, imo.
JustFacts
10-11-2007, 12:35 AM
Originally posted by QueenBee
For those of you who think the only sister did this and then brought LF in on it
1. Can you name any case where a sibling killed a sibling and was then assisted by their mother in concealing their involvement?
2. I do not know of a mother that would help their troubled child get away with murdering the "golden child". I have however, heard of mothers who have helped their children conceal their roll in murdering their spouse.
And again I have faith in the WCSO when they say it was not random. I also KNOW that they have not focused soley on Jason as some like to keep repeating. The person responsible has left the area......he's in Brevard!
IMO [/*]
Your first question is pointless. There may be ten previous instances or zero. Doesn't change the facts of this case. Your second comment will apply to Linda Fisher if she helped her daughter in any way. I believe Meredith phoned her mother numerous times prior to making the 911 call.
jmo
Surfside6
10-11-2007, 01:18 AM
Poor Kat, she really believes the romantic prose constructed for Michelle and Jason's TheKnot webpage.
But is it really fact or fiction?
theKnot webpage conflicts with what was reported in the N&O per their friend, Rhett
Fussell concerning how Michelle and Jason met. imo
N&O excerpt:
"The two had met the previous year, [not sure what year this is] their friend Fussell recalled. Michelle and some girlfriends had headed to the Have a Nice Day Cafe for some late-night dancing. Young, also a student at NCSU, and his crew had ended up there, too.
Michelle, a spirited dancer, was showing off her moves. Jason Young, not as smooth, hung out near the bar. Michelle pulled him out on the dance floor."
http://www.newsobserver.com/news/crime_safety/story/511581-p2.html
From theKnot:
"They met in January of 2001, downtown at the Pour House at a friend's birthday celebration. Michelle was drinking a glass of wine and Jason was being himself when he knocked over her glass and it shattered. Being the southern gentleman, he quickly bought her a new glass and the couple began to talk."
http://weddings.theknot.com/pwp/view/co_main.aspx?coupleid=106108161075268&MsdVisit=1
The N&O has a fact-checker, theKnot doesn't.
Surfside6
10-11-2007, 01:25 AM
janetruth's post points out how horrible it would be to come upon your loved one mortally wounded (or dead in michelle's case) and how people respond in that situation.
it will stay with janetruth and her son for the rest of their lives.
her honesty in that post is in stark contrast to kat's attention-seeking posts that continue to
disparage the victim's family.
imo
BiggerRedDog
10-11-2007, 02:19 AM
Originally posted by Surfside6
Poor Kat, she really believes the romantic prose constructed for Michelle and Jason's TheKnot webpage.
But is it really fact or fiction?
theKnot webpage conflicts with what was reported in the N&O per their friend, Rhett
Fussell concerning how Michelle and Jason met. imo
N&O excerpt:
"The two had met the previous year, [not sure what year this is] their friend Fussell recalled. Michelle and some girlfriends had headed to the Have a Nice Day Cafe for some late-night dancing. Young, also a student at NCSU, and his crew had ended up there, too.
Michelle, a spirited dancer, was showing off her moves. Jason Young, not as smooth, hung out near the bar. Michelle pulled him out on the dance floor."
http://www.newsobserver.com/news/crime_safety/story/511581-p2.html
From theKnot:
"They met in January of 2001, downtown at the Pour House at a friend's birthday celebration. Michelle was drinking a glass of wine and Jason was being himself when he knocked over her glass and it shattered. Being the southern gentleman, he quickly bought her a new glass and the couple began to talk."
http://weddings.theknot.com/pwp/view/co_main.aspx?coupleid=106108161075268&MsdVisit=1
The N&O has a fact-checker, theKnot doesn't. [/*]Well, one's right and one's wrong (unless they met twice). The wedding page info isn't in the first person; I wonder who wrote it? Except for Michelle and Meredith, the wedding party consists of Jason's family. No friends?
JustFacts
10-11-2007, 03:50 AM
Originally posted by BiggerRedDog
Well, one's right and one's wrong (unless they met twice). The wedding page info isn't in the first person; I wonder who wrote it? Except for Michelle and Meredith, the wedding party consists of Jason's family. No friends? [/*]
Why do you question who wrote it? Obviously, Michelle and Jason wrote it. It's a free website that requires registration and the content is provided by the registered user. You think somebody else got on there and accurately listed all the details except where and when they met? GMAB.
And why the need to make comments about Michelle having no friends? We know she had friends. Lots of friends.
:no:
BiggerRedDog
10-11-2007, 05:17 AM
Originally posted by JustFacts
Why do you question who wrote it? Obviously, Michelle and Jason wrote it. It's a free website that requires registration and the content is provided by the registered user. You think somebody else got on there and accurately listed all the details except where and when they met? GMAB.
And why the need to make comments about Michelle having no friends? We know she had friends. Lots of friends.
:no: [/*]Why can't I question who wrote the copy for that page, JF? Maybe Michelle and Jason wrote it, maybe it was submitted on their behalf by a friend. It's not obvious to me, one way or the other. I didn't say Michelle had no friends. Yes, I know she had friends, lots of friends. I stated that according to the info on the wedding page, the people in the wedding party, apart from Michelle and her sister Meredith, were all members of the Young family. That, to me anyway, is interesting. Not right, not wrong, but interesting .... to me. Is that okay with you?
JustFacts
10-11-2007, 05:46 AM
Originally posted by BiggerRedDog
Why can't I question who wrote the copy for that page, JF? Maybe Michelle and Jason wrote it, maybe it was submitted on their behalf by a friend. It's not obvious to me, one way or the other. I didn't say Michelle had no friends. Yes, I know she had friends, lots of friends. I stated that according to the info on the wedding page, the people in the wedding party, apart from Michelle and her sister Meredith, were all members of the Young family. That, to me anyway, is interesting. Not right, not wrong, but interesting .... to me. Is that okay with you? [/*]
All you're doing is spinning to fit your "jasondidit" mantra and that's so stale and sorta sad. Is Meredith feeling the walls closing in? I hope so. I do think this case is before a grand jury and she is arrested soon.
About the Knot: A friend would make sure info was correct before submitting it to the Knot on Michelle's behalf. Most adults could reach that same conclusion without help. You are the exception, apparently.
According the info on the Knot page, members of the wedding party were Jason's family. Why is that "interesting" to you? Do you think Michelle was forced into choosing members of Jason's family to be in her wedding?
BiggerRedDog
10-11-2007, 06:19 AM
Originally posted by JustFacts
All you're doing is spinning to fit your "jasondidit" mantra and that's so stale and sorta sad. Is Meredith feeling the walls closing in? I hope so. I do think this case is before a grand jury and she is arrested soon.
About the Knot: A friend would make sure info was correct before submitting it to the Knot on Michelle's behalf. Most adults could reach that same conclusion without help. You are the exception, apparently.
According the info on the Knot page, members of the wedding party were Jason's family. Why is that "interesting" to you? Do you think Michelle was forced into choosing members of Jason's family to be in her wedding? [/*]The important thing to me is that the walls are closing in on the person who killed Michelle. Whether it's Jason, Meredith or someone else within those walls matters little to me, but it seems to matter to you. Why do you hope it's Meredith?
I don't know if a friend would necessarily ensure that info was correct before submitting to a web page such as The Knot, or anywhere else. Maybe they thought they had the story straight and didn't think to check. Rhett Fussell was a friend, I have read. Did he check to make sure the info he gave the N & O was correct? I don't know. Do you?
That most of the wedding party were Jason's family is interesting to me because, in my experience, most wedding parties consist of a mixture of friends and family of both the bride and groom. That Jason and Michelle chose differently really doesn't amount to a hill of beans, but it is interesting, to me. If it doesn't interest you, scroll on by.
JustFacts
10-11-2007, 06:41 AM
Originally posted by BiggerRedDog
The important thing to me is that the walls are closing in on the person who killed Michelle. Whether it's Jason, Meredith or someone else within those walls matters little to me, but it seems to matter to you. Why do you hope it's Meredith?
I don't know if a friend would necessarily ensure that info was correct before submitting to a web page such as The Knot, or anywhere else. Maybe they thought they had the story straight and didn't think to check. Rhett Fussell was a friend, I have read. Did he check to make sure the info he gave the N & O was correct? I don't know. Do you?
That most of the wedding party were Jason's family is interesting to me because, in my experience, most wedding parties consist of a mixture of friends and family of both the bride and groom. That Jason and Michelle chose differently really doesn't amount to a hill of beans, but it is interesting, to me. If it doesn't interest you, scroll on by. [/*]
Of course it matters to me. Unlike yourself, I care about Michelle.
If you want to conclude the wedding party is a clue, hey, go for it. You do seem rather shallow.
BiggerRedDog
10-11-2007, 06:55 AM
Originally posted by JustFacts
Of course it matters to me. Unlike yourself, I care about Michelle.
If you want to conclude the wedding party is a clue, hey, go for it. You do seem rather shallow. [/*]You seem to be having difficulty comprehending, JF. I'm sorry. I will put it down to the late hour it might be where you are. Perhaps you need some sleep, or something.
seriouslee
10-11-2007, 10:43 AM
Originally posted by Kat4Eagles
snipped... you can only imagine what it felt like to read here she was being arrested on 9 counts of embezzlement from C's funds...snipped
JMO
Kat [/*]
I believe the the first postings about Meredith being arrested for embezzlement were the result of an over-zealous, often banned poster. IMO this was never true....never.
seriouslee
10-11-2007, 10:51 AM
Originally posted by seriouslee
I believe the the first postings about Meredith being arrested for embezzlement were the result of an over-zealous, often banned poster. IMO this was never true....never. [/*]
Added to my previous post.....
I should have added that these remarks were retracted very quickly. The posters who continue to make reference to them demonstrate their own lack of integrity. IMO
lilismom
10-11-2007, 11:14 AM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Kat4Eagles
It is never too late for anything, but it just does not add up that if someone knows who did this to Michelle they would not come forward.
Snipped.
Do you think Jason believes Meredith killed Michelle? If so, then why isn't he running screaming to LE with or without his attorney? If he's as sure as you are of his innocence, if his family and friends are as sure as you are, why aren't they? Do you think they have? If they have and LE believes their story and is after Meredith, why hasn't JY sat down with LE to tell them what he knows about Meredith? Has he? If they did, what do you think they told LE about Meredith, as it applies to Michelle's murder, that they didn't already know?
IMO,
Lilismom
amberwaves
10-11-2007, 01:19 PM
Originally posted by JaneTruth
Second-guessing Meredith's 911 call is an exercise in futility.
[/*]
Jane, your last sentence is, without a doubt, the most accurate & precise sentence written on this board in a long time.
JustFacts
10-11-2007, 04:51 PM
Originally posted by BiggerRedDog
You seem to be having difficulty comprehending, JF. I'm sorry. I will put it down to the late hour it might be where you are. Perhaps you need some sleep, or something. [/*]
Try early morning. I had no problem comprehending your post. I don't "hope" the killer is Meredith. I believe the facts known point to Meredith.
Why do you nitpick Rhett Fussell's comments or Michelle's posting at the Knot? Why nitpick her selection of her own wedding party? Very petty of you and also disrespectful to Michelle, imo.
Originally posted by BiggerRedDog
The important thing to me is that the walls are closing in on the person who killed Michelle. Whether it's Jason, Meredith or someone else within those walls matters little to me, but it seems to matter to you. Why do you hope it's Meredith?
I don't know if a friend would necessarily ensure that info was correct before submitting to a web page such as The Knot, or anywhere else. Maybe they thought they had the story straight and didn't think to check. Rhett Fussell was a friend, I have read. Did he check to make sure the info he gave the N & O was correct? I don't know. Do you?
That most of the wedding party were Jason's family is interesting to me because, in my experience, most wedding parties consist of a mixture of friends and family of both the bride and groom. That Jason and Michelle chose differently really doesn't amount to a hill of beans, but it is interesting, to me. If it doesn't interest you, scroll on by. [/*]
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JustFacts
10-11-2007, 04:53 PM
Originally posted by lilismom
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Kat4Eagles
It is never too late for anything, but it just does not add up that if someone knows who did this to Michelle they would not come forward.
Snipped.
Do you think Jason believes Meredith killed Michelle? If so, then why isn't he running screaming to LE with or without his attorney? If he's as sure as you are of his innocence, if his family and friends are as sure as you are, why aren't they? Do you think they have? If they have and LE believes their story and is after Meredith, why hasn't JY sat down with LE to tell them what he knows about Meredith? Has he? If they did, what do you think they told LE about Meredith, as it applies to Michelle's murder, that they didn't already know?
IMO,
Lilismom [/*]
Would the public be told the answers to your questions? I don't think so. That is the type of information released at trial, if ever, imo.
JustFacts
10-11-2007, 04:57 PM
Originally posted by seriouslee
I believe the the first postings about Meredith being arrested for embezzlement were the result of an over-zealous, often banned poster. IMO this was never true....never. [/*]
LE and the DA know if it was true or not. That's all that matters. If it is true, it will be very damaging to the defense at trial. Might mean the difference between Meredith being sentenced to life or death. :eek: YIKES!
alter ego
10-11-2007, 05:41 PM
Originally posted by JaneTruth
The part I don't understand is that there are some who judge Meredith badly because her reactions are not what they THINK their own would be.
-snip-
IMO [/*]
That's EXACTLY what y'all do with Jason.
alter ego
10-11-2007, 05:47 PM
Originally posted by lilismom
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Kat4Eagles
It is never too late for anything, but it just does not add up that if someone knows who did this to Michelle they would not come forward.
Snipped.
Do you think Jason believes Meredith killed Michelle? If so, then why isn't he running screaming to LE with or without his attorney? If he's as sure as you are of his innocence, if his family and friends are as sure as you are, why aren't they? Do you think they have? If they have and LE believes their story and is after Meredith, why hasn't JY sat down with LE to tell them what he knows about Meredith? Has he? If they did, what do you think they told LE about Meredith, as it applies to Michelle's murder, that they didn't already know?
IMO,
Lilismom [/*]
:confused: what good would that do? :confused:
singaporesling
10-11-2007, 06:32 PM
Originally posted by JaneTruth
The part I don't understand is that there are some who judge Meredith badly because her reactions are not what they THINK their own would be.
Nobody knows how they will react in an emergency situation until it actually happens.
Would Kat be all over me like white on rice because I had my son make the 911 call, instead of doing it myself? I had him do it because I wanted him to have something to do besides hovering over my mortally wounded husband (his stepdad), screaming, "OH MY GOD!" over and over.
He was not entirely coherent making the call, and I had to correct several of his statements. As it was, the first police presence was an officer on foot with a high-powered flashlight, a bulletproof vest and an assault rifle. The dispatcher heard "front yard" and "shot" and thought it may have been a hostage situation.
Second-guessing Meredith's 911 call is an exercise in futility.
IMO [/*]
Hi Jane,
My deepest sympathies to you and your son and thank you for being courageous enough to share your experience with us.
singaporesling
10-11-2007, 06:39 PM
Originally posted by seriouslee
I believe the the first postings about Meredith being arrested for embezzlement were the result of an over-zealous, often banned poster. IMO this was never true....never. [/*]
To me whether the accusations were true, false, half true, etc or whether she had robbed every bank in Raleigh does not make her a murdereress.
She was an innocent player in a sadistic and brutal crime which was choreographed by her brother in law. Her pain must be excruciating and to be accused of murder is based on innuendo and the jealousy of posters who have no heart let alone a soul. JMO
I am catching up from last night's postings.
Jane, I am so very sorry for your loss. I cannot imagine the horror and pain of that experience, or the strength and courage you have had to demonstrate to get through it, for yourself and your son. My thoughts and prayers are with you.
Dida
singaporesling
10-11-2007, 08:38 PM
Originally posted by BiggerRedDog
snipped..........That most of the wedding party were Jason's family is interesting to me because, in my experience, most wedding parties consist of a mixture of friends and family of both the bride and groom. That Jason and Michelle chose differently really doesn't amount to a hill of beans, but it is interesting, to me. If it doesn't interest you, scroll on by. [/*]
I think that this info on the wedding is interesting because the pictures were requested in a search warrant. Was LE looking at the pictures in hopes of seeing someone who did not look happy at the union of these two people and may have helped JY get out of it? Only LE and that person know for sure. JMO
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