Tuesday September 25 2007

[BiggerRedDog]

America's Most Wanted is putting up a billboard in Raleigh, asking for public help to solve the murder of pregnant Jennifer Kathleen Nielsen.

http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/1853413/
&
http://justice4jenna.weebly.com/billboard.html

Surely America's Most Wanted, if asked, would do the same to encourage public help to solve the murder of pregnant Michelle Marie Fisher Young.

Just wondering why not much, apart from the PE-sponsored reward/posters and the ad. in the Wolfpacker magazine, has been done to solicit public assistance and to help keep Michelle Young's murder in the public mind.

[Charlottean]

Good moring Dog, Could it be when talking w/ LE they were told there is an unnamed suspect? Just a thought.

[Hey Paula]

Good Morning Everyone!

Thanks for starting today's daily thread, BRD!

My immediate thought, when reading your post, is in Jenna Nielsen's case LE has but a composite sketch of someone seen in the area where Jenna was found, so it appears LE doesn't know the identity of the perp. They will display the sketch with the hope someone, who recognizes the face, will call LE.

Michelle's case is different. I believe LE knows who murdered her in her bedroom, without signs of forced entry, with Cassidy in the house left unharmed.

IMO

[annalyzer]

Also with Michelle's case she was murdered inside of her home so it wouldn't do any good to put up her photo since no one would have seen her except the killer. Right?

[JustFacts]

Originally posted by annalyzer
Also with Michelle's case she was murdered inside of her home so it wouldn't do any good to put up her photo since no one would have seen her except the killer. Right?

Good morning!!
I believe your excellent point will once again fall on deaf ears that can hear only gossip. jmo

[Hey Paula]

Originally posted by annalyzer
Also with Michelle's case she was murdered inside of her home so it wouldn't do any good to put up her photo since no one would have seen her except the killer. Right?

Yes, that was the main point of my post, and perhaps the reason why JY was pictured with Michelle in the PE reward poster.

IMO

[karen]

I thought I would bring this back-
This article really bothers me, it's as if he just walked away from his life in Raleigh, his pregnant wife, and does'nt care about the investigation, I wonder if he calls periodically to check the progress, or if any of his family does? And as for the headstone, I personally know it takes about 3-4 months, but I don't think he has one even ordered. I hope LF and MF can one day take Michelle home to N.Y. where she will be remembered with love and where IMO she belongs.

QUOTE -WRAL
Husband Stays out of Sight As Investigators Probe Wake Mother's Slaying-
"Brevard — Where is Jason Young? That's the question a lot of people are asking in light of the release of search warrants Thursday that seem to put more focus on him in his wife's death. "

"Where is Jason Young? Who knows for sure, but Michelle Young's car is parked in Joe and Heather's garage."

:chicken: JY


JFM

:rose:

[JHP]

Good morning Karen, And might I also add isn't Michelles most precious possesion of all is sleeping in one of Joe and Heathers bedrooms? And I don't mean Jason.

[Booty_Boy]

Originally posted by annalyzer
Also with Michelle's case she was murdered inside of her home so it wouldn't do any good to put up her photo since no one would have seen her except the killer. Right?



Not to worry when LE has everything in place like they need to you will only see Jasons face .

[karen]

Originally posted by JHP
Good morning Karen, And might I also add isn't Michelles most precious possesion of all is sleeping in one of Joe and Heathers bedrooms? And I don't mean Jason.


Good morning JHP, I agree I think it is so sad. Poor Cassidy, I wonder if she talks about her mother what JY and his sisters tell her? :(

[annalyzer]

Originally posted by Booty_Boy




Not to worry when LE has everything in place like they need to you will only see Jasons face .

If they had everything in place to make an arrest there would be no need for a billboard asking for the public's help in solving the case. :read:

[annalyzer]

Originally posted by scout


What billboard?


The one BRD thinks AMW should put up to help solve the MY murder. Aren't you following the thread? :read:

[springflowers35]

Originally posted by annalyzer



The one BRD thinks AMW should put up to help solve the MY murder. Aren't you following the thread? :read:


I don't think BRD is around right now, but I will go ahead and speak for her. I think she was alluding to the fact that LE knows who perpetrated this murder of Michelle so there is no need for a billboard. She was also showing the differences in the way the families are acting.

The article talked about how TIRELESSLY the Nielsens are working to solve the murder of their beloved. Jason Young is doing NOTHING.

I'm sure that if this is not what she meant, she will let you know.

jmo

[annalyzer]

Originally posted by springflowers35



I don't think BRD is around right now, but I will go ahead and speak for her. I think she was alluding to the fact that LE knows who perpetrated this murder of Michelle so there is no need for a billboard. She was also showing the differences in the way the families are acting.

The article talked about how TIRELESSLY the Nielsens are working to solve the murder of their beloved. Jason Young is doing NOTHING.

I'm sure that if this is not what she meant, she will let you know.

jmo

BRD wrote quote: America's Most Wanted is putting up a billboard in Raleigh, asking for public help to solve the murder of pregnant Jennifer Kathleen Nielsen.

Surely America's Most Wanted, if asked, would do the same to encourage public help to solve the murder of pregnant Michelle Marie Fisher Young. ~end quote

annalyzer wrote quote: The one BRD thinks AMW should put up to help solve the MY murder. ~ end quote

I don't care what you think BRD was alluding to. I was going by what BRD actually wrote.

[jammies]

Originally posted by annalyzer


If they had everything in place to make an arrest there would be no need for a billboard asking for the public's help in solving the case. :read:


At any point, you and your buddy's can start campaign for an MY billboard. What's stopping you?

[annalyzer]

Originally posted by scout


I think you and annalyzer need to read BRD's post again. You seem to have missed the point.

It looks to me like the point is BRD thinks LE should be doing more (like putting up a billboard) to keep the murder of MY in the public's mind. :read:

BRD quote: Just wondering why not much, apart from the PE-sponsored reward/posters and the ad. in the Wolfpacker magazine, has been done to solicit public assistance and to help keep Michelle Young's murder in the public mind. ~end quote

[annalyzer]

Originally posted by jammies



At any point, you and your buddy's can start campaign for an MY billboard. What's stopping you?

What in the heck are you talking about? What buddies? :confused:

[springflowers35]

Originally posted by annalyzer


BRD wrote quote: America's Most Wanted is putting up a billboard in Raleigh, asking for public help to solve the murder of pregnant Jennifer Kathleen Nielsen.

Surely America's Most Wanted, if asked, would do the same to encourage public help to solve the murder of pregnant Michelle Marie Fisher Young. ~end quote

annalyzer wrote quote: The one BRD thinks AMW should put up to help solve the MY murder. ~ end quote

I don't care what you think BRD was alluding to. I was going by what BRD actually wrote.


Read it again :) The point is, AMW hasn't been ASKED to do that. Waste of resources maybe?

[annalyzer]

Originally posted by springflowers35



Read it again :) The point is, AMW hasn't been ASKED to do that. Waste of resources maybe?

We don't know for a fact that AMW hasn't been asked to put up a billboard for the MY case.

Read my above post. I think BRD's last paragraph sums up her point. :read:

[springflowers35]

Originally posted by rstarrg


That would be a MY billboard. Sorry, it just grates on my nerves when someone is trying hard to be intelligent but shows the intelligence level by making this type of 3rd grade grammatical error.



Good grief. It would be AN if you were SPELLING it. OMG Can you be any more petty?

[annalyzer]

Originally posted by cojack


Maybe we should allow BRD to sum up her own point and we move on. (JMO)

She summed it up nicely in the last paragraph. :read:

[springflowers35]

Originally posted by annalyzer


She summed it up nicely in the last paragraph. :read:


You are more than welcome to have the last word on this. BRD will let you know what she meant. ;)

[annalyzer]

Originally posted by scout
snip~

Apologies to all for replying to this off-topic post, but it demands correction.



I agree. It doesn't make any sense. What in the heck is she talking about anyway? :confused:



Originally posted by jammies :
At any point, you and your buddy's can start campaign for an MY billboard. What's stopping you?
~end quote

Oh BTW, the plural of buddy is buddies. :read:

[annalyzer]

Originally posted by springflowers35



You are more than welcome to have the last word on this. BRD will let you know what she meant. ;)

Are you implying that she meant something other than she wrote?

[springflowers35]

Originally posted by agathachristie



Many moons ago , it was stated that the LE was at the funeral recording all the license numbers . Is this SOP in murder cases ? It would seem to me that they were not just focusing on the husband . What are your thoughts ?


You are right, Aggie. Good point. I believe LE wants the right person to pay for this crime. jmo

[springflowers35]

I am not good at finding these types of things.

But is there anybody that knows of an innocent person who has been silent AND not collected their $1 million policy? That is such a fascinating combination to me.

Even if JY doesn't need the money (haha) he could still invest it in something for Cassidy and put it in trust for her. If it has to go to Michelle's estate, there will be taxes taken out on it.

Now, with the Brevardian being so worried about people talking about the house sitting on the market and not being sold, and that being money taken away from Cassidy, I would think he would be encouraging JY to get that money and do something with it for Cassidy. jmo

[annalyzer]

Originally posted by springflowers35
snip~But is there anybody that knows of an innocent person who has been silent AND not collected their $1 million policy?

Nope. Most people collect the LI and use part or all of it to pay for the funeral and headstone, etc.

[indie]

Originally posted by annalyzer


I agree. It doesn't make any sense. What in the heck is she talking about anyway? :confused:



Originally posted by jammies :
At any point, you and your buddy's can start campaign for an MY billboard. What's stopping you?
~end quote

Oh BTW, the plural of buddy is buddies. :read:


Wow, you must feel so proud of yourself to get in the final dig. Pathetic. I always wonder when people need to do this sort of thing if they feel gleeful afterwards or a bit sorry that they would stoop so low.

Sorry for the O/T but this is just so unbecoming of mature adults.



Okay back to real discussion. Have there been any grand jury rumblings concerning this case lately?

[texasgal]

Hi Everybody :seeya:

Loved the grammar lesson .. we're never too old to learn.

For someone who aced writing class, I have regressed to many times using no abbreviations, no caps, as well as poor punctuation .. :shrug:

Any local scuttlebutt this morning??

For Michelle and baby ...... :rose:

[alter ego]

Originally posted by agathachristie


Well, it's almost 11 months out and no arrest yet .

Not that famous "rush to judgment " term .

This LE seems quite professional keeping a tight lid on the info .

They have even managed to keep the media at bay .

I've grown accustomed to seeing families on TV making pleas for help . Usually lots of media coverage and leaks .

This case is so different.

MOO Aggie

I agree, LE and the DA are keeping a tight lid and those claiming to have "inside sources" are just pulling legs with their "scoops".

[JHP]

Originally posted by agathachristie


Well, it's almost 11 months out and no arrest yet .

Not that famous "rush to judgment " term .

This LE seems quite professional keeping a tight lid on the info .

They have even managed to keep the media at bay .

I've grown accustomed to seeing families on TV making pleas for help . Usually lots of media coverage and leaks .

This case is so different.

MOO Aggie

ETA , I was worried about the correct spelling of the word judgment ! With or without an e is proper ! :) Yes Aggie, ITA to the point it's almost too quiet. Strange IMO

[karen]

Originally posted by agathachristie


Well, it's almost 11 months out and no arrest yet .

Not that famous "rush to judgment " term .

This LE seems quite professional keeping a tight lid on the info .

They have even managed to keep the media at bay .

I've grown accustomed to seeing families on TV making pleas for help . Usually lots of media coverage and leaks .

This case is so different.

MOO Aggie

It is quite different.
Does anyone think JY's little sister is getting tired of him mooching off her? I don't think JY has shown his face in public on his wifes behalf, which IMO shows disrespect for his late wife and his daughter.
JFM:rose:

[annalyzer]

Originally posted by indie



Wow, you must feel so proud of yourself to get in the final dig. Pathetic. I always wonder when people need to do this sort of thing if they feel gleeful afterwards or a bit sorry that they would stoop so low.

Sorry for the O/T but this is just so unbecoming of mature adults.





Oh please. Cry me a river. :rolleyes:

[Booty_Boy]

Originally posted by annalyzer


If they had everything in place to make an arrest there would be no need for a billboard asking for the public's help in solving the case. :read:


My how smart you are ................looks like the creep would get off his dead azz and get things moveing to find the real killer unless he already knows the answer to that one. jmo

[Booty_Boy]

Originally posted by karen


It is quite different.
Does anyone think JY's little sister is getting tired of him mooching off her? I don't think JY has shown his face in public on his wifes behalf, which IMO shows disrespect for his late wife and his daughter.
JFM:rose:


He most likely has them believeing everything he says is true, i would think there doing this for the little girl not him. But i know it has to be getting old to them.

[alter ego]

Originally posted by Booty_Boy



My how smart you are ................looks like the creep would get off his dead azz and get things moveing to find the real killer unless he already knows the answer to that one. jmo
Oh, so WCSO is so incompetent that a salesman has to do their job for them?

No wonder they have a pile of UNSOLVED cases.

[annalyzer]

Originally posted by karen
snip~


Does anyone think JY's little sister is getting tired of him mooching off her?

He works. Surely he helps out with the expenses around the house. He has the money to move elsewhere. They must like their living arrangement.

[alter ego]

Originally posted by karen


It is quite different.
Does anyone think JY's little sister is getting tired of him mooching off her? I don't think JY has shown his face in public on his wifes behalf, which IMO shows disrespect for his late wife and his daughter.
JFM:rose: Who said he was mooching off her?

So all the other spouses of murdered people who don't go on TV are showing disrespect?

[JHP]

Originally posted by Booty_Boy



He most likely has them believeing everything he says is true, i would think there doing this for the little girl not him. But i know it has to be getting old to them. Unless his entire family knows he did it. And they are just covering for him. Kind of like SP. Too much denial. Except Jasons family isn't talking. JMO

[alter ego]

Originally posted by Booty_Boy



He most likely has them believeing everything he says is true, i would think there doing this for the little girl not him. But i know it has to be getting old to them.

I doubt you know anything of the sort.

BTW - did you make it to the courthouse to get a copy of the other side of the warrant to see what items 13-15 are?

[karen]

If JY wants to start a new life.........it seems like he would try to collect, after 11 months.
Is he afraid of what questions he would have to answer at a depo? And does anyone know if LE would be involved in the Depo. from his Ins. Co. Could they actually ask questions also?

ETA "Spelling", don't want anyone to fuss at me.:rolleyes:

[annalyzer]

Originally posted by scout


I'm following the thread; I'm not following you. You change lanes too frequently.

If you'd been following the thread there would've been no reason to ask, "What billboard?".

As far as your other comment I have always maintained that JY is my number one suspect but (and this may be where you are confused) I leave my mind open to other possibilities.

[Booty_Boy]

Originally posted by alter ego


I doubt you know anything of the sort.

BTW - did you make it to the courthouse to get a copy of the other side of the warrant to see what items 13-15 are?




I don't need to go to the courthouse to get a copy of jack chitt because i am convinced that Jason did this, and as far as him liveing with his sister i think it's wrong for him to do that, not fair to Cassidy. He needs to be spending all the time he can with her now because soon he won't have that. jmo

[annalyzer]

Originally posted by Booty_Boy
snip~

I don't need to go to the courthouse to get a copy of jack chitt

because someone posted a link on here showing the other side and what was listed there. :read:

[karen]

I wonder if Cassidy has her own room at JY's sisters house.

I wonder if JY does?

Not that it matters, it just seems that it would seem a little cramped with two families living in one house. How long do you think he will stay there? Has he started dating yet?

(Note to self)- Ask Kat how long it takes to get over a murdered spouse?
All JMO..

[Tennisbuff]

Originally posted by karen


It is quite different.
Does anyone think JY's little sister is getting tired of him mooching off her? I don't think JY has shown his face in public on his wifes behalf, which IMO shows disrespect for his late wife and his daughter.
JFM:rose:

I think that it has been a strain on Jason's sister and her husband (going from living alone to having JY and CY there is a huge change), but I think they continue to do it b/c they care about both of them. And especially CY, Heather really loves and takes care of that little girl.
JY is also supposedly moving out soon.

[karen]

Originally posted by HI-CYCLE
You really shouldn`t worry about his living arrangements.I don`t think that has anything to do with who murder his wife and Cassidy`s mother. His living arrangements are not my business,your business or any one on this board. Comprende?

I disagree with you...:seeya:

[karen]

Originally posted by Tennisbuff


I think that it has been a strain on Jason's sister and her husband (going from living alone to having JY and CY there is a huge change), but I think they continue to do it b/c they care about both of them. And especially CY, Heather really loves and takes care of that little girl.
JY is also supposedly moving out soon.

Thank you for answering my questions Tennisbuff, I am sure it has to be a strain. Hopefully very soon it will change.

JFM:rose:

[BiggerRedDog]

Originally posted by springflowers35
Read it again :) The point is, AMW hasn't been ASKED to do that. Waste of resources maybe? You got it, spring!

BTW: National Grammar Day is March 8 2008. :)

[Tennisbuff]

Originally posted by karen
I wonder if Cassidy has her own room at JY's sisters house.

I wonder if JY does?

Not that it matters, it just seems that it would seem a little cramped with two families living in one house. How long do you think he will stay there? Has he started dating yet?

(Note to self)- Ask Kat how long it takes to get over a murdered spouse?
All JMO..

It's a 3 bedroom house, so everyone gets their own room.

[springflowers35]

Tennisbuff, is Heather at least still talking about Michelle to Cassidy? I hope so!

[Booty_Boy]

Originally posted by annalyzer


because someone posted a link on here showing the other side and what was listed there. :read:



I hope your enjoying your reading anything in that book about who killed poor Michelle and her unborn son? is jason in there by chance? just sayin'

[Tennisbuff]

Originally posted by springflowers35
Tennisbuff, is Heather at least still talking about Michelle to Cassidy? I hope so!

As far as I know. I've been out of the loop lately.

[Charlottean]

Originally posted by alter ego



No wonder they have a pile of UNSOLVED cases.

Ego, could you please supply a link for this statement?

[karen]

Originally posted by Rios, A


Sounds like they're doing well. IMO

I hope so, it just seems after 11 months JY should be trying to help himself and Cassidy move on.

[karen]

Originally posted by Rios, A


What should she say?

Try to keep her mothers memory alive, maybe. Don't you think they should talk about her?

[karen]

Originally posted by willow_1


Here's a link for NC unsolved. I think there are 3 in Wake co.
http://www.ncwanted.com/unsolved/

Try to be positive willow, don't you want this case solved?:confused:

[Tennisbuff]

Originally posted by willow_1


We understood you haven't spoken to Heather in 10 years How do you know all this?

I have spoken to Heather more recently than 10 years ago.
However, I am not getting in the middle of a message board fight with JTF or anyone else. Thus, I am no longer saying anything about the Youngs. I think they are good, high moral people, and I have never said anything otherwise. I stand by that.
I wish them the best.

[amberwaves]

Originally posted by Tennisbuff

JY is also supposedly moving out soon.

TB, this is a true fact.

[5swab5]

Originally posted by scout


Tell her stories about her mommy. Parent-deprived kids love to hear stories about experiences they had with their parents that are only vague memories for them. They also love to hear stories about what their parents were like when they themselves were children. Of course, Linda and Meredith Fisher would be better qualified to share stories about Michelle's childhood. I wonder if they've been given the opportunity to do so. Cassidy deserves the chance to get to know her mommy as best she can given the fact of Michelle's death.

Scout,

I agree with you. Something as simple as reliving Michelle's last Halloween with Cassidy.

It is important to keep those memories alive.

I hope Jason is doing the right thing, but I seriously doubt it! Because...IF he were doing the "right thing", he would be trying to put the animal behind bars that did this to Cassidy's Mommy. Instead of swallowing his tongue, and covering his own patootie.


MOO

Swabby

[lilismom]

Originally posted by scout


Tell her stories about her mommy. Parent-deprived kids love to hear stories about experiences they had with their parents that are only vague memories for them. They also love to hear stories about what their parents were like when they themselves were children. Of course, Linda and Meredith Fisher would be better qualified to share stories about Michelle's childhood. I wonder if they've been given the opportunity to do so. Cassidy deserves the chance to get to know her mommy as best she can given the fact of Michelle's death.


My daughter likes to hear the story of her actual birth. She wants all of the details. She wants to know what Mom Mom said and the doctor's name and how hard he pushed on my belly and she wants to see the scar. She's 4 and she likes to say "remember, when I was a baby...".

Sad that Cassidy will not be able to share these memories with her mother.

IMO,
Lilismom

[Tennisbuff]

JTF,
If you're out there, please check your PMs.

[alter ego]

Originally posted by Charlottean


Ego, could you please supply a link for this statement?

UNSOLVED KILLINGS IN WAKE COUNTYThe Wake County Sheriff's Office currently has 23 cold case homicides from March 5, 1976, through July 9, 2003, according to records. The sheriff's office regards a case as cold if investigators don't have any leads, said Phyllis Stephens, a sheriff's spokeswoman.
The sheriff's office also has five unsolved murders that aren't considered cold cases, dating to Dec. 4, 2002, two days after Sheriff Donnie Harrison took office. Michelle Young's case is one of them. The others are:

http://www.newsobserver.com/news/crime_safety/michelle_young/story/571385.html

[alter ego]

Originally posted by smack_down





OMG i spit on the screen honey it's not Opera it's Oprah unless you live in a different world then i do.:santa: :santa:

You are kidding right? You use 'there' insted of 'their' and 'then' instead of 'than' but laugh at someone else who says 'Opera" instead of "Oprah"

[springflowers35]

Originally posted by alter ego


You are kidding right? You use 'there' insted of 'their' and 'then' instead of 'than' but laugh at someone else who uses the wrong word.

[Barbara2]

Originally posted by agathachristie


I don't know anything about statistics . Is 23 cold cases over a 27 year period considered high ?

And 5 unsolved murders in the last 5 years ?

One would need to consider the total number in each category, right ?

Guess the veteran sleuthers could weigh in on this .

Even one unsolved case doesn't sit well with me.

MOO..............Aggie

That's why the statistics are unreliable unless you know the context. 23 cold cases over one year would be extreme. Over 27 years, it's less than one a year. That makes a HUGE difference.

[Barbara2]

Originally posted by Rios, A


When is a case considered a " cold case" ? We aren't very far away from one year in this case, would it be two years or more? I can't think of where new leads would come from in this case because the crime scene turned up nothing . IMO

I don't think you understood the reference. We're talking about 23 cold cases over a 27 year period; not one cold case that lasted for 27 years.

[Barbara2]

Originally posted by Rios, A


No I understood but my question still stands.

Then your question needs to stand alone and not be attached to my post. Your response has nothing to do with what I said.

This is how conversations get derailed and I would appreciate it if you wouldn't use me in that way.

[alter ego]

Originally posted by agathachristie


I don't know anything about statistics . Is 23 cold cases over a 27 year period considered high ?

And 5 unsolved murders in the last 5 years ?

One would need to consider the total number in each category, right ?

Guess the veteran sleuthers could weigh in on this .

Even one unsolved case doesn't sit well with me.

MOO..............Aggie

I believe I said they had a pile of unsolved cases.

Total unsolved:total murders investigated - yes, that ratio would be the crux of the stat.

[alter ego]

Originally posted by Rios, A


When is a case considered a " cold case" ? We aren't very far away from one year in this case, would it be two years or more? I can't think of where new leads would come from in this case because the crime scene turned up nothing . IMO
I think when they run out of leads to follow is when a case is deemed cold.

[Dida]

Originally posted by alter ego


I believe I said they had a pile of unsolved cases.

Total unsolved:total murders investigated - yes, that ratio would be the crux of the stat.

Sadly, I imagine a great many states have a "pile" of unsolved cases. I only hope that Michelle's does not remain one of the unsolved cases in NC.

jmo

[Dida]

Originally posted by agathachristie


Thanks . I did read the link you provided so that is how I came up with the numbers.

More importantly I was struck by this in that same link.

.................................................. .................................................. .....Her family perseveres

Divorced years ago, Alan and Linda Fisher have worked since their daughter's slaying to make sure she remains on the minds of those who knew her -- and others touched by her death.

On Feb. 17, a vigil was held to celebrate what would have been Michelle Young's 30th birthday. Pictures online show friends, family members and others gathered with luminarias in front of St. Ann's Church in Sayville.

On April 22, the Fishers and their other daughter, Meredith, commemorated Victims' Rights Week by planting a tree to launch The Michelle Marie Fisher-Young Memorial Arbor Program. The program lets families choose a tree to be planted in honor of a loved one at any Islip, N.Y., park.

"A lot has been done to honor her memory," Alan Fisher said.

But June Fisher, Alan's wife, said it does little to mask the pain the family is feeling.

"Obviously, we're not doing well," she said. "Every day you wake up, and you still can't believe it."

.................................................. .................................................. .....

There was some discussion in the recent past about the victim's father .

I think it was FF who addressed division within the Fisher family ?

Based on this article, one would think that , despite their divorce , the parents are united in finding the person that committed this heinous crime .

Is that your take, too ?

MOO............Aggie

Good evening, Aggie. It certainly sounds to me as though the Fishers are united in their quest for justice, and in their grief. Unlike some, I never thought otherwise.

jmo

[Barbara2]

Originally posted by agathachristie


<snipped>
There was some discussion in the recent past about the victim's father .

I think it was FF who addressed division within the Fisher family ?

Based on this article, one would think that , despite their divorce , the parents are united in finding the person that committed this heinous crime .

Is that your take, too ?

MOO............Aggie

It certainly sounds that way. Divorce doesn't cause parents to stop loving their children (in MOST cases). It's good to know that all of the adults on the Fisher side of the family are being adults and working together for the good of their daughter. imo

[Dida]

Originally posted by Rios, A


When You consider they've had the crime scene from day one and that was nearing 11 months ago, it really makes you wonder whats new that can come up. IMO

Unlike television, Reed, crime labs in NC have a significant backlog of evidence to process. LE could well be waiting for lab results.

jmo

[alter ego]

Originally posted by Rios, A


When You consider they've had the crime scene from day one and that was nearing 11 months ago, it really makes you wonder whats new that can come up. IMO
Sure does.

[Dida]

Originally posted by alter ego

Sure does.
Unlike television, AE, crime labs in NC have a significant backlog of evidence to process. LE could well be waiting for lab results.

http://www.nbc17.com/midatlantic/ncn/news.apx.-content-articles-NCN-2007-09-25-0021.html

jmo

[Dida]

Originally posted by Rios, A


I don't really think it is backlogged that far that they don't have it back. I realize there is a certain amount of time involved but for a gruesome murder case they would bump it up over other cases which are lesser offences etc. I think a DA and LE would pull their hair out if they had to wait 11 plus months from a lab to determine a killer. Not to mention they'd rather send it to another lab even out of state because they are spending alot of money keeping an investigation going and it would only make financial sense to get back results from any lab in the country . IMO

See link above.

[tiny paw-prints]

"A lot has been done to honor her memory," Alan Fisher said.


What has Jason done to honor his wife's memory?

[Dida]

Originally posted by Rios, A


It bolsters my point. :shrug: I read the entire article and it's positive. IMO

The lab just opened today.

[Dida]

Originally posted by Rios, A


Why would he have to show You or I? Should he buy a billboard on a highway , kinda tacky in my opinion.

I am sure Jenna Nielsen's family would be so pleased with your opinion of their heartfelt efforts to find her killer.

jmo

[Surfside6]

Originally posted by Tennisbuff

(snipped)
JY is also supposedly moving out soon.

just in time for football season and all the tailgating that it implies...


UPDATE:
the birchleaf asking price has dropped again.


imo

[Surfside6]

psssttt::::

annalyzer, you've misspelled your nic.

the proper spelling is with one "n" and not two ---
analyzer.

people make typos, get over it.

[Dida]

Originally posted by Rios, A


So it is your opinion that the reason we are discussing why there is no resolution to this case 11 months from the crime is because they haven't tested the crime scene evidence. :eek: . That shows complete and total LE incompetence that they wouldn't send it out of state. IMO

Please do not state my opinion for me. TY

I find it entirely possible that all of the evidence from the crime scene has not yet been processed.

Perhaps you do not have a budget in your job; others do. While it may seem cruel that a murder investigation would hinge upon a budget, fiscal reality imposes itself even upon LE.

jmo

[Dida]

Originally posted by Rios, A


I don't know Jenna But I think you misunderstood. My post was in reference to what JY should do to " Honor" MY never about finding a killer. Read back you will see. imo

Did I not read that you find a billboard tacky? My response stands.

jmo

[Dida]

Originally posted by Rios, A


You twisted it. IMO

No, unfortunately, I did not.

jmo

[karen]

Originally posted by tiny paw-prints
"A lot has been done to honor her memory," Alan Fisher said.


What has Jason done to honor his wife's memory?

Nothing!
Hiding in Brevard! You would think with all his travels in sales, a billboard would be perfect. somewhere between Brevard and Greenville SC.;)

[Barbara2]

Originally posted by Rios, A


Wow. I'm surprised they didn't send out of state because while they're waiting they are presumably spending money on an investigation. IMO

I'm sure they know their job and their budget. I trust them to get the job done.

[Surfside6]

Originally posted by Rios, A


:beer: Great time of year for sure. IMO

yeah, bud. PARTY!

why let the murder of your pregnant wife
spoil all your fun?

(especially if you are the one who killed her.)
imo

[karen]

Originally posted by Rios, A


Hiding? You must mean working. What would the Billboard say to " Honor" her?

"IF" he was'nt guilty it would say "REWARD FOR INFORMATION ON THE MURDER OF MICHELLE YOUNG" he could cash in the insurance money and put a headstone on his late wifes gravesite,
get himself and Cassidy a place to live. But a guilty person hides from the public. IMO.
The torture of a bad conscience is the hell of a living soul.

[Barbara2]

Originally posted by Rios, A


I'm just a little surprised. I never would've thought that they'd wait 11 months as a LE agency. I would've thought they'd send out of state to get results back quicker and save money on the investigation. JMO

I don't know that they are. I know that it has been published that the labs are backed up. I know that all those tests cost money. It's possible that the cost of the tests outweighs any investigation (which may well be on hold waiting for the test results). I'm not second-guessing the professionals.

[karen]

Originally posted by Rios, A


Thanks. So it is Your belief that what this case is missing in order to be solved is a " Reward for the information" This is a point of contention that JY has not cashed in and made a reward offer? Are you of the opinion that if you are living and working but not going on tv than you are Hiding from the public?

He is absolutely NOT showing concern for the murder of his late wife, and yes that is my belief. And please do not try to make it sound like this is the only reason for my belief that JY is guilty, it is not, there are many. Thanks

ooops, spelling again, i keep forgetting its grammer day.

[Surfside6]

Originally posted by Rios, A


We have no idea what JY is doing. IMO

leave me out of your "we."

[karen]

Originally posted by agathachristie



That would be grammar day ! :D

LOL but I'm from the country.......:D

[alter ego]

Originally posted by Rios, A


So it is your opinion that the reason we are discussing why there is no resolution to this case 11 months from the crime is because they haven't tested the crime scene evidence. :eek: . That shows complete and total LE incompetence that they wouldn't send it out of state. IMO So we're back to waiting for lab results.....you know the 'i' dotting and 't' crossing aren't far behind....

[alter ego]

Originally posted by Rios, A


Thanks Barbara. It never occured to me that we were waiting for the state to get things tested and determine what they were willing to pay for . It sounds like the state of NC needs to raise taxes but I know that's tough for any politician to do and keep their job! :seeya: IMO :eek: How does that phonecall go....sorry we can't test any FE in your loved one's murder case cuz we just can't justify the expenditure of funds to do our job.....:eek:

[alter ego]

Originally posted by karen


"IF" he was'nt guilty it would say "REWARD FOR INFORMATION ON THE MURDER OF MICHELLE YOUNG" he could cash in the insurance money and put a headstone on his late wifes gravesite,
get himself and Cassidy a place to live. But a guilty person hides from the public. IMO.
The torture of a bad conscience is the hell of a living soul. If that's what innocent people do, why is that guilty people do it too? :shrug:

[amberwaves]

Originally posted by Rios, A


Yes . I was curious because I read that she was only two when this occured.

You need to really think before you post JReed. Because of that fact that Cassidy was only two at the time of her mother's death is perfect reason to help Cassidy remember her mother. Don't you feel she would love to hear about her mother and how she was and what they did together before she died? hmmm?

You're an Alex Rios fan eh? Sorry about your bluebirds :(

[Barbara2]

Originally posted by alter ego
:eek: How does that phonecall go....sorry we can't test any FE in your loved one's murder case cuz we just can't justify the expenditure of funds to do our job.....:eek:

You are a sick man, imo.

[alter ego]

Originally posted by Rios, A


I wouldn't want that job, to make that call. IMO
Not for all the money in the world.

[amberwaves]

Originally posted by Rios, A


I do, it's just that I can't remember anything before I was four. I have no problem with it ...I was curious what someone would say is all.

Yes. Alex Rios is my favorite player. JMO
I reckon there'd be all kinds of loving stories from various friends and family to let Cassidy know what a loving mother and unique woman she was. Those stories will be visualized by Cassidy and stay with her forever IMO. I certainly would want to hear all I could about my mother, as I'm sure you would also IMO.

Yes, I agree with you on Alex. He is too underrated.

(Sorry for OT people)

[alter ego]

Originally posted by Rios, A


That's a good point. IMO

And it never gets an answer.

[alter ego]

Originally posted by Gracia


OK, I went back and read their post.
You're right, alter ego. It was rude too.
Sorry about that. I lashed out at you. I shouldn't have.

I'm just perturbed by all of the senseless bickering, I guess.
Just frustrating to me.
We really do need some kind of a break in this case, for sure.

I'm sorry, alter.:seeya:
It does get frustrating with no news and rehashing. I had already deleted my post to you so as to not fuel the fire anymore.

I appreciate your graciousness and sense of fairness - a rare trait on these boards.

Thank you :seeya:

[tiny paw-prints]

Originally posted by Gracia



What is the purpose of your posting this?
To show us how superior you are to the rest of us?
Or, just to prove to us how very rude you are?

Just wondering.

Both, superior and rude, and ...
very sneaky and underhanded too! jmo

If you've blinked, then you've not seen them.

[tiny paw-prints]

Originally posted by alter ego

It does get frustrating with no news and rehashing. I had already deleted my post to you so as to not fuel the fire anymore.

(snipped)




Your admission of Guilt is appreciated.

Wise choice!

[just the facts]

Originally posted by Tennisbuff


I think that it has been a strain on Jason's sister and her husband (going from living alone to having JY and CY there is a huge change), but I think they continue to do it b/c they care about both of them. And especially CY, Heather really loves and takes care of that little girl.
JY is also supposedly moving out soon.

I'm curious how someone who hasn't spoken to Heather in a decade would know what is or is not a "strain". In some circles, I would say a "friend" one hasn't spoken to one in decades is considered a strain when said "friend" feels the need to fuel internet chatboard rumors with random made up information.

What about you? Any strains in your life you'd like to share? To some, for instance, job hunting can be a strain, finding health insurance can be a strain, having children can be a strain, etc...

[just the facts]

Originally posted by Tennisbuff


As far as I know. I've been out of the loop lately.

Or rather you've been out of the loop entirely because you haven't spoken to Heather in a decade? Just curious, when exactly was the last time you spoke to her?

[springflowers35]

Originally posted by just the facts


I'm curious how someone who hasn't spoken to Heather in a decade would know what is or is not a "strain". In some circles, I would say a "friend" one hasn't spoken to one in decades is considered a strain when said "friend" feels the need to fuel internet chatboard rumors with random made up information.

What about you? Any strains in your life you'd like to share? To some, for instance, job hunting can be a strain, finding health insurance can be a strain, having children can be a strain, etc...


You are cutting off your nose to spite your face.

[springflowers35]

Originally posted by just the facts


Or rather you've been out of the loop entirely because you haven't spoken to Heather in a decade? Just curious, when exactly was the last time you spoke to her?


Amazing that you want to attack the only person who has spoken highly of Jason that anybody on this board finds credible.

[tiny paw-prints]

Originally posted by just the facts


(snipped)

What about you? Any strains in your life you'd like to share?




You are OFF TOPIC, in my opinion.

Weeks ago, someone had inquired about Heather (Jason's little sis and caregiver for Cassie), and then someone responded, vaguely, without giving ANY details.

Do you have a chip on your shoulder?

[karen]

Originally posted by just the facts


Or rather you've been out of the loop entirely because you haven't spoken to Heather in a decade? Just curious, when exactly was the last time you spoke to her?

I guess you don't know WHEN Heather and Tennisbuff spoke last now do you? You answered one question then ask the same thing?????:confused:

[tiny paw-prints]

Originally posted by just the facts


Or rather you've been out of the loop entirely because you haven't spoken to Heather in a decade? Just curious, when exactly was the last time you spoke to her?

If there's a "strain" ensuing between you and
Tennisbuff, then perhaps you can resolve the anger-issue by sending that poster a private message, rather than pursing any history of the 'decade" on this public message board?

I believe Tennisbuff has publicly and respectably suggested that you PM her/him to resolve this matter?

You are disrupting any meaningful discussions to be had by other members regarding this case. IMO.

[tiny paw-prints]

Originally posted by springflowers35



Amazing that you want to attack the only person who has spoken highly of Jason that anybody on this board finds credible.


I think we should all put on our helmets to
protect our head from any further injuries. jmo

[springflowers35]

Originally posted by tiny paw-prints



I think we should all put on our helmets to
protect our head from any further injuries. jmo


There's a definite disconnect in the Young family. I would say it's just my opinion, but I think it's fast becoming fact. This anger runs in the family it appears.

[on the go]

Originally posted by just the facts


-snipped-

What about you? Any strains in your life you'd like to share? To some, for instance, job hunting can be a strain, finding health insurance can be a strain, having children can be a strain, etc...


All the examples you cite above are, indeed, a strain on families. IMO

[tiny paw-prints]

Originally posted by springflowers35



There's a definite disconnect in the Young family. I would say it's just my opinion, but I think it's fast becoming fact. This anger runs in the family it appears.

Are you implying that 'just the facts' is a member of the Young Family? What a coincidence. Apparently, that poster registered approx the same time the crime scene was released.

[just the facts]

Originally posted by karen


I guess you don't know WHEN Heather and Tennisbuff spoke last now do you? You answered one question then ask the same thing?????:confused:


If you will recall, I posted previously that TB hadn't spoken to Heather since high school. If you will go back and reread, TB states that she has spoken to Heather in the past decade. Thus, since she has contradicted my statement, I am asking her to enlighten us on just when that was. If you will review her posts you will see she mentions frequent conversation with Heather - as in over the course of the past year. I know for a fact that hasn't occurred, but am curious to hear TB's answer as to when exactly she last spoke to Heather.

I'm a big fan of the truth you know. I find it very enlightening and not the slightest bit confusing.

But for those who relish riddles, here's some evening fun:


The old grey mare, she wasn't where she was supposed to be!!!

Lion King and Tigers and Bears, Oh my!!!


JMO and all that jazz,
JTF

[just the facts]

Originally posted by tiny paw-prints



I think we should all put on our helmets to
protect our head from any further injuries. jmo


I hate to be the bearer of bad news, TPP, but I fear the sum total of all the brain cells from the bulk of the posters on these boards wouldn't be enough to fill a helmet up. I don't think there's anything to protect.

No worries though. Back to your mindless babble...

[springflowers35]

Originally posted by Trinity


I am sure that your riddles would be better suited for LE, if they have any true meaning, and not suited for a message board.


She is only able to talk in riddles. If she talked straight up, she might implicate a sibling....or two :shrug:

[tiny paw-prints]

Originally posted by Allison


And could be examples of the very strain Jason was and is going through. And what he may be putting his family through.

JMO

I thought it's been posted that Jason had plans to move out?

Any "strain" on the family should be relieved with knowing that info. Unless, of course, he was planning to flee.

Planning to flee would definitely place a strain and burden on the family, in my opinion.

[karen]

Originally posted by Allison


In her home 1 1/2 hours away?

Could be huh?

[tiny paw-prints]

Originally posted by just the facts



I hate to be the bearer of bad news, TPP, but I fear the sum total of all the brain cells from the bulk of the posters on these boards wouldn't be enough to fill a helmet up. I don't think there's anything to protect.

No worries though. Back to your mindless babble...



"I don't think there's anything to protect. "

Perhaps the killer had the same opinion about Michelle?


I always worry about ppl who say they hate to deliver bad news. They are usually the same ppl who make a special effort in being the very first person to deliver The Bad News! that infamous surprise fax comes to mind.

[karen]

Originally posted by tiny paw-prints


I thought it's been posted that Jason had plans to move out?

Any "strain" on the family should be relieved with knowing that info. Unless, of course, he was planning to flee.

Planning to flee would definitely place a strain and burden on the family, in my opinion.

I hope LE knows of his plans to move. He can't leave the country can he?:eek:

[Surfside6]

quote:Originally posted by just the facts


(snipped)

I'm a big fan of the truth you know. I find it very enlightening and not the slightest bit confusing.

But for those who relish riddles, here's some evening fun:


The old grey mare, she wasn't where she was supposed to be!!!

Lion King and Tigers and Bears, Oh my!!!


JMO and all that jazz,
JTF

the only riddle is whether you are Big Sis or Little Sis.
maybe Little Sis is more like the Big Sis than we've been led to believe.

Why are you fixated on punishing TennisBuff
instead of coming to terms with the fact that your brother murdered michelle and his unborn sons?

tennis buff was one of the few posters who was sympathetic to jason. that may have changed.

If you are a big fan of the truth ---
here's something for you:

jason bashed michelle's head in. look at the autopsy report if you value truth.

instead of attacking posters, posting insults and riddles, why not try to have jason and his attorney work out a deal with the DA so he won't end up being executed or spending the rest of his life in prison?

he owes it to Cassidy for killing her mother, leaving her there and wrecking her life with his selfishness.

imo

[Surfside6]

Originally posted by scout


Where was she supposed to be?

could it be that jason plans to claim that
meredith was the one that played Lion King for
Cassidy that morning?

just one more thing to say that meredith did beside killing her sister instead of assuming responsibility for what he did.

could it be that meredith spent the night at her boyfriend's house on Thursday night and that's why she didn't check her voicemail or answering machine back at her house as early as jason wanted her to on Friday morning?

maybe meredith went straight to work and didn't check her messages until her break.

jason probably assumed that she would wake up in the morning, check her messages and then go to work.

if she were at her boyfriend's house, then why not blame him too? why not say that there were 2 killers?


meredith messed up jason's perfect plan. he was extremely angry with michelle and is very angry with meredith.

imo

[springflowers35]

Originally posted by willow_1


I told you weeks ago to find out when LF arrived in Raleigh. Did any one check it out?

Would we find that out by watching Oprah?

If you have a link, you could share it instead of playing games. jmo

[JustFacts]

Originally posted by Surfside6


could it be that jason plans to claim that
meredith was the one that played Lion King for
Cassidy that morning?

just one more thing to say that meredith did beside killing her sister instead of assuming responsibility for what he did.

could it be that meredith spent the night at her boyfriend's house on Thursday night and that's why she didn't check her voicemail or answering machine back at her house as early as jason wanted her to on Friday morning?

maybe meredith went straight to work and didn't check her messages until her break.

jason probably assumed that she would wake up in the morning, check her messages and then go to work.

if she were at her boyfriend's house, then why not blame him too? why not say that there were 2 killers?


meredith messed up jason's perfect plan. he was extremely angry with michelle and is very angry with meredith.

imo

I can't blame Jason for being very angry at Meredith for murdering his wife and son.

You tend to speak out of both sides of your mouth. You claim Cassidy said, "Daddy did it" but appear to be in denial that she was old enough to describe to detectives her activities, including who was with her on the couch eating candy and watching a video.

all, imho.

[JustFacts]

Originally posted by willow_1


I told you weeks ago to find out when LF arrived in Raleigh. Did any one check it out?

Yes.

[tiny paw-prints]

Originally posted by Surfside6


(snipped)

meredith messed up jason's perfect plan. he was extremely angry with michelle and is very angry with meredith.

imo


Very strange to have the B.R.T. and any member of Jason's Family posting about the murder on any public message board. I believe JTF registered on 11/18 and that's Very near the time that the crime scene was released.

I'm not aware that Meredith or any member of the Fisher Family is posting about the murder on any public message board.

[5swab5]

Originally posted by Surfside6


(( respectfully snipped))

meredith messed up jason's perfect plan. he was extremely angry with michelle and is very angry with meredith.

imo

Kinda makes one understand why certain people came out of the starting gate, defending everything Jason EVER did. Way before anyone would have even thought that something was amiss.

Makes so much more sense in retrospect. Lord knows, if I didn't "follow the party line", I would be afraid to shut my eyes in Brevard too.

MOO

Swabby

[springflowers35]

Originally posted by tiny paw-prints



Very strange to have the B.R.T. and any member of Jason's Family posting about the murder on any public message board. I believe JTF registered on 11/18 and that's Very near the time that the crime scene was released.

I'm not aware that Meredith or any member of the Fisher Family is posting about the murder on any public message board.

If you ask me, it adds to the appearance of his guilt. jmo

[JustFacts]

Originally posted by tiny paw-prints



Very strange to have the B.R.T. and any member of Jason's Family posting about the murder on any public message board. I believe JTF registered on 11/18 and that's Very near the time that the crime scene was released.

I'm not aware that Meredith or any member of the Fisher Family is posting about the murder on any public message board.

We do not know for certain that anyone in the victim's family is posting on the Internet but I bet LE knows.

jmo.

[tiny paw-prints]

Originally posted by JustFacts


I can't blame Jason for being very angry at Meredith for murdering his wife and son.

You tend to speak out of both sides of your mouth. You claim Cassidy said, "Daddy did it" but appear to be in denial that she was old enough to describe to detectives her activities, including who was with her on the couch eating candy and watching a video.

all, imho.

'Daddy did it' (911 call) the candy (jellybeans) and video (Lion King) are all rumors.

Do you have any facts to base your opinion, i.e., Meredith murdered her sister? TIA

[JustFacts]

Originally posted by tiny paw-prints


'Daddy did it' (911 call) the candy (jellybeans) and video (Lion King) are all rumors.

Do you have any facts to base your opinion, i.e., Meredith murdered her sister? TIA

Yes. The funky 911 call is a fact. I'm sure the child helpfully filled in the details for detectives, jmo.

[tiny paw-prints]

Originally posted by springflowers35


If you ask me, it adds to the appearance of his guilt. jmo


A ton of rumors, very few facts, if any.

But, I've been advised not to worry and continue with my babble....

[tiny paw-prints]

Originally posted by JustFacts


Yes. The funky 911 call is a fact.

(snipped)

Nope. The 911 call released to the public is only a small piece of the Original Complete Unedited portion of that 911 call.

And, that's why you think it sounds "funky"!

[5swab5]

Originally posted by JustFacts


Yes. The funky 911 call is a fact. I'm sure the child helpfully filled in the details for detectives, jmo.

I don't think that Jason's original murder plan included leaving Cassidy at the murder scene for so long, if at all. Something happened that accelerated the timeline. My guess would be that Michelle either found about MM or had just finally had enough of the "jokester".

As for Cassidy, probably Jason's worst move. He left the WRONG little girl there for hours on end. Plenty of time for her to use the communication skills that her Mom had taught her. No doubt in my mind...not only does Cassidy say Daddy did it on the 911 call, but she had hours and hours to repeat her version, while Jason and his entourage moseyed back to Raleigh.

JMO

Swabby

[tiny paw-prints]

Originally posted by 5swab5


(snipped)

As for Cassidy, probably Jason's worst move. He left the WRONG little girl there for hours on end. Plenty of time for her to use the communication skills that her Mom had taught her. No doubt in my mind...not only does Cassidy say Daddy did it on the 911 call, but she had hours and hours to repeat her version, while Jason and his entourage moseyed back to Raleigh.



To repeat her version, approximately how many hours would that have been?

1:30pm until ?

[JustFacts]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by tiny paw-prints


Nope. The 911 call released to the public is only a small piece of the Original Complete Unedited portion of that 911 call.

And, that's why you think it sounds "funky"! [/QUOT

The portion of the call I listened to is still a fact. As this moves into the 11 month, it really is not looking good for Meredith, imo.

The child was able to speak directly to detectives about what she saw as well as her activities.



:shrug:

[springflowers35]

Originally posted by willow_1


If one was to believe a word of what you just wrote then there would have been an arrest months ago. IMO


That's funny because that's exactly what I think when I read you all talking about Meredith. If your stuff was believable, they would have arrested her the next day after the murder. jmo

[JustFacts]

Originally posted by 5swab5


I don't think that Jason's original murder plan included leaving Cassidy at the murder scene for so long, if at all. Something happened that accelerated the timeline. My guess would be that Michelle either found about MM or had just finally had enough of the "jokester".

As for Cassidy, probably Jason's worst move. He left the WRONG little girl there for hours on end. Plenty of time for her to use the communication skills that her Mom had taught her. No doubt in my mind...not only does Cassidy say Daddy did it on the 911 call, but she had hours and hours to repeat her version, while Jason and his entourage moseyed back to Raleigh.

JMO

Swabby


It's always best to bet on the horse, not the jockey. I do hope you learn from your mistake.

:santa:

[tiny paw-prints]

Originally posted by JustFacts


The portion of the call I listened to is still a fact. As this moves into the 11 month, it really is not looking good for Meredith, imo.

The child was able to speak directly to detectives about what she saw as well as her activities.

:shrug:

The portion of the call that you listened to is still only a portion and partial of the original complete unedited version. Therefore, it is only PARTIAL fact for your listening pleasure. Are you basing your suspicion about Meredith because you think that PARTIAL call sounds funky?

[JustFacts]

Originally posted by springflowers35



That's funny because that's exactly what I think when I read you all talking about Meredith. If your stuff was believable, they would have arrested her the next day after the murder. jmo

nah, I think unraveling Mere's lies takes some time because there were so many. 11 months about right.

all, imho.

[JustFacts]

Originally posted by tiny paw-prints


The portion of the call that you listened to is still only a portion and partial of the original complete unedited version. Therefore, it is only PARTIAL fact for your listening pleasure. Are you basing your suspicion about Meredith because you think that PARTIAL call sounds funky?

Is there a point in all your twisting? I heard enough of the call to form an opinion.

[springflowers35]

Originally posted by JustFacts


nah, I think unraveling Mere's lies takes some time because there were so many. 11 months about right.

all, imho.


If that were the case, they could have already arrested her long ago and worked out the details of their case. If she had lied, LE would have seen thru it long ago.

Long ago when other search warrants were coming out, they would have had Meredith's name on them instead. They didn't. It was Jason's name.


jmo

[5swab5]

Originally posted by tiny paw-prints



To repeat her version, approximately how many hours would that have been?

1:30pm until ?

Hi TinyPawPrints,

I'm not sure that the Young's arrival time has ever been officially "nailed down".

I have heard everything from 9:30PM Friday to 1AM on Saturday morning. Matters little, IMO. Still gives LE, at the minimum.....eight hours with Cassidy. I'm sure they didn't interrogate her all that time, but they had ample time to talk with her.

I would love to know if one of the Officers gave her one of the Teddy Bears that they carry along in their trunks. I donate every year in a different County, but I am sure it is a comfort to small children.

IMO

Swabby

[tiny paw-prints]

Originally posted by JustFacts



It's always best to bet on the horse, not the jockey. I do hope you learn from your mistake.

:santa:

I hope you're not the driver of any bus, taxi, or other means of public transportation. :tongue:

[tiny paw-prints]

Originally posted by JustFacts


Is there a point in all your twisting? I heard enough of the call to form an opinion.

I'm trying to figure out your twisting comments about the 911 call when you have only heard a very small portion of it! How can you form such a crucial opinion (such as Meredith murdering her sister) when you have only heard a portion of the original complete unedited version of the 911 call?

I believe you're going to be very shocked, if and when the original complete unedited version is released during trial. I think you should reserve your rigid formed opinion until more of the original 911 call is available to you.

[tiny paw-prints]

Originally posted by 5swab5


Hi TinyPawPrints,

I'm not sure that the Young's arrival time has ever been officially "nailed down".

I have heard everything from 9:30PM Friday to 1AM on Saturday morning. Matters little, IMO. Still gives LE, at the minimum.....eight hours with Cassidy. I'm sure they didn't interrogate her all that time, but they had ample time to talk with her.

I would love to know if one of the Officers gave her one of the Teddy Bears that they carry along in their trunks. I donate every year in a different County, but I am sure it is a comfort to small children.

IMO

Swabby


Are you thinking 1:30pm until 10pm, a minimum of approximately 8-9hrs might be accurate and certainly sufficient time to question the little girl and gain pertinent information for investigators?

Most children that age prefer to "show and tell". For example, depending upon where you are with any small child, to ask them "Show me!" --might be hazardous to your health!

Swabby, it is very sweet and generous of you to donate to different counties in your support of law enforcement and comforting the small children. We should all pitch in whenever and whereever we can.

[5swab5]

Originally posted by tiny paw-prints



Are you thinking 1:30pm until 10pm, a minimum of approximately 8-9hrs might be accurate and certainly sufficient time to question the little girl and gain pertinent information for investigators?

Most children that age prefer to "show and tell". For example, depending upon where you are with any small child, to ask them "Show me!" --might be hazardous to your health!

Swabby, it is very sweet and generous of you to donate to different counties in your support of law enforcement and comforting the small children. We should all pitch in whenever and whereever we can.

All I can tell you is that I trust Cassidy. It seems to me that she is very articulate for her age in the background of the 911 call. I was impressed. Mommy did good! (Michelle would be SO proud)

Meredith did a GREAT job of not alarming Cassidy.

I just hope that the rest of the responders followed suit, and continued to look after her, keep her calm and comforted.

From what I have heard, she had quite a tale to tell. I'd like to think that ALL were listening.

JMO

Swabby

Nite!

[tiny paw-prints]

Originally posted by 5swab5


Nite!

:seeya: Goodnight!