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WonderingInSC
09-21-2007, 08:39 AM
"Justice is the firm and continuous desire to render to everyone that which is his due."
Justinian
I pulled this from Surfside6's opening of a thread about a month ago. Still stands strong.
Hope you all have a great day!!
Justice for Michelle, her baby boy and family. :rose:
WonderingInSC
09-21-2007, 09:07 AM
QUOTE]Originally posted by alter ego [/i]
What's the hold up now?
Oh that's right, they don't have the case solved yet.
I hope this doesn't end up as another cold case for WCSO :mad:
WonderingInSC
09-21-2007, 09:09 AM
Originally posted by WonderingInSC
QUOTE]Originally posted by alter ego [/i]
What's the hold up now?
Oh that's right, they don't have the case solved yet.
I hope this doesn't end up as another cold case for WCSO :mad:
I don't understand why you want to keep rushing this case. From the other cases shown in NC, there is no reason to arrest someone until everything is set for a case to convict BARD.... time will tell... patience, once again... that is a virtue.
annalyzer
09-21-2007, 10:24 AM
Originally posted by Trinity
Good Morning!
I thought this should be brought over:
(and should be on every thread, every day)
Why? Most of it is just someone's opinion. No proof to back it up. Hardly worth repeating much less reading every day. :rolleyes:
Lili007
09-21-2007, 10:46 AM
Originally posted by Trinity
Good Morning!
I thought this should be brought over:
(and should be on every thread, every day)
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Here is a poster who has not changed their name. Here is a poster who posts the truth: The quote function will not work right now so I will add that this post is from 5swab5:
"That's hardly "all we have". We have a $cum bucket for a husband and a father, who apparently took the "'til death do we part" of his vows WAY too literally.
We have a man that was carrying on with his wife's best friend.
We have a man that leaves early to go to a business meeting the night before, yet only drives half way and yet is late for said meeting.
We have an avid NCSU season ticket holder with friends on the way, yet he makes a side trip to his mom's house, for one or another reason, gawd only knows what the final story will be.
We have a man that argued frequently with his wife, even in public.
We have a man that didn't see fit to take care of his household, upstairs heat, garage door opener, security system and lord only knows what else.
We have a man that thought so little of his wife losing his second child, that he neglected to escort her to NY to the comforting arms of her mother---he went on a trip to CA with his family instead.
We have a man that hasn't attended a SINGLE memorial for his wife.
We have a man that lets JTF from "jump street" start making every excuse in the book and try to point the investigation in other directions.
We have a man that needed a NTO to comply, LATE I might add, to assist in eliminating his fingerprints, DNA, etc. from the crime scene.
We have a man that sent his SIL to the house, only to discover his wife's body, yet he allows her to be the object of ridicule and venom on message boards.
We have a man that has shown ZERO concern for his bludgeoned wife and unborn son....
We have a mute.
We have a man that.....
Why even bother?
We don't have a man, we have a Murderer!
JMO.
Swabby"
IMO, every word of the above is worth repeating and harking to.
Just my opinion.
Lili
Lili007
09-21-2007, 10:51 AM
Hi everyone
this is getting nowhere, fast. Can we do anything about it?
karen
09-21-2007, 10:59 AM
Originally posted by Lili007
Hi everyone
this is getting nowhere, fast. Can we do anything about it?
Hey Lili007, ITA, I really wish something would happpen soon.
JFM:rose:
annalyzer
09-21-2007, 11:04 AM
Originally posted by Trinity
RU is the perfect platform for those pro-JY.
I'm not pro-JY. Obviously you haven't been following the daily posts. :punch:
WonderingInSC
09-21-2007, 11:04 AM
Originally posted by annalyzer
Why? Most of it is just someone's opinion. No proof to back it up. Hardly worth repeating much less reading every day. :rolleyes:
Actually She gave us an excellent synopsis of what has happened. A little bit is her opinion, but most is true facts.
Facts 'is' facts.... JMO
texasgal
09-21-2007, 11:08 AM
Well, good morning all .......
I just caught up from last nite's posts. I'm certainly glad I have very limited access in the evening. Some of those "evening posters" are VERY tiresome.
I'm walking, sleeping, eating this case now. :rolleyes:
My take on the "Daddy did it" thing. It definitely sounds like "daddy" something. But a couple of points.
MF's reaction of just "ok" leads me to believe:
1. She wasn't paying close attention, however she did answer CY appropriately on several other occasions.
2. She didn't recognize it as "Daddy did it" .. or she might have said "What, honey, are you saying DADDY DID IT?" So as someone who can understand this child's 2yo speak, she appears to understand and answer "OK" .. but must be responding to something other than "daddy did it"
or..
3. She doesn't understand at all what she's saying, so she's just answering "ok" to acknowledge this kid.
At any rate, I don't believe MF had anything to do with MYs death, and poor CY was probably so relieved to have someone responding to her .. that poor baby was just gibbering away.. :(
I hope LE can bring airtight closure to this case ......... soon.
:rose: ......... for Michelle.
annalyzer
09-21-2007, 11:16 AM
Originally posted by texasgal
snip~ I hope LE can bring airtight closure to this case ......... soon.
:rose: ......... for Michelle.
Now this is worth repeating.
Lili007
09-21-2007, 11:37 AM
Originally posted by annalyzer
Now this is worth repeating.
And again :rose:
annalyzer
09-21-2007, 11:51 AM
Originally posted by RPD
Maybe not pro-JY, but there is no doubt you slam the victim's sister any chance you get. :mad:
Slamming as in calling her a druggie and accusing her of embezzlement like someone else we know? :cool:
on the go
09-21-2007, 11:56 AM
brought over from yesterday:
Originally posted by Hey Paula
I don't believe for an instant that the GA friend had anything to do with Michelle's murder. My post to JF was an extension to Dida's post to her asking why Meredith is accused of murdering her sister, but the GA friend, who was the last known person with Michelle isn't.
In addition to already knowing the GA friend was alright because JY was likely the last known person with Michelle, his COG also prevented him from calling her. However, by not calling the GA friend, JY likely caused her to either think poorly of him for not inquiring, or to view him with suspicion.
IMO
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Just trying to understand. GA was with MY that evening. Was JY with his good friend (GA's boyfriend) at anytime during that evening? (Tried to go back but all the older threads are missing).
annalyzer
09-21-2007, 12:06 PM
Originally posted by RPD
snip~
BTW, what does any of that have to do with murder ?
Ask yourself that. You're the one that brought up Meredith. :punch:
annalyzer
09-21-2007, 12:07 PM
Originally posted by Gojo
Mimi, I missed you. Hurry back. We need to correct some misinformation.
:santa: :santa:
annalyzer
09-21-2007, 12:11 PM
Originally posted by RPD
snip~
Who cares if she smokes a little weed now and then ?
Not me but then again I'm not the one that called her a druggie.
annalyzer
09-21-2007, 01:01 PM
Originally posted by RPD
Thanks. I agree with you, MF has NOTHING to do with the murder.
She'd be my number one suspect if not for Jason's silence. That was a very odd 911 call IMO. It was almost like she didn't want to touch her sister to ascertain her condition. Like she already knew she was dead but didn't want the OP to know she knew.
alter ego
09-21-2007, 01:07 PM
Originally posted by WonderingInSC
I don't understand why you want to keep rushing this case. From the other cases shown in NC, there is no reason to arrest someone until everything is set for a case to convict BARD.... time will tell... patience, once again... that is a virtue. [/B][/QUOTE]
Well according to some there is a MOUNTAIN of evidence. Obviously those people are wrong cuz the case isn't even solved.
What some are passing off as reasons for no arrest isn't how DAs and LE operate. They don't worry about a successful prosecution when they don't even have a case solved.
SO What
09-21-2007, 01:20 PM
Originally posted by Gojo
I agree. Swabby knows what she is talking about.
Do we have a new Gojo, or did he have a change of heart?????
singaporesling
09-21-2007, 01:31 PM
Originally posted by willow_1
How could that have happened .Every other post here is about them not talking to the police . Now all of a sudden they are. Can't be both ways. IMO
It is JY that is not talking to the police. Unless any member of the Young family is involved and invokes their fifth ammendment rights of self incrimination, they have to talk to police. If they refuse to talk, haul them in front of a grand jury and if they still don't want to talk they can be hit with a contempt order. The fifth does not protect a person from someone else incriminating them.
Originally posted by willow_1
Is the board in trouble or is it just my computer?
missing posts ?
Originally posted by willow_1
They are either missing or everyone went to bed. LOL
I posted and it disappeared and I do not know why.
gorealtors
09-21-2007, 02:30 PM
Originally posted by Shrugs
I guess no one liked the new and improved Gojo?
:shrug:
Shrugs, I know it was like a breath of fresh air for me personally.
gorealtors
09-21-2007, 02:33 PM
Originally posted by Shrugs
I guess no one liked the new and improved Gojo?
:shrug:
Oh, forgot to welcome you to the boards Shrugs. Hope you enjoy it.;)
WonderingInSC
09-21-2007, 04:46 PM
Hello all
ARe we still here - it has been quiet for a while... maybe another Board is more exciting than the lack of new news we are getting on here....
Or because it is TGIF....
why oh why?
09-21-2007, 05:30 PM
i've been reading on here for awhile and doing alot of research about the case. i have a few comments i would finally like to make.
1. regarding "daddy did it" - i heard it when i listened to the recording and i didn't have an enhanced version. it was very chilling when i did hear it. also i am thinking this is probably why JY is keeping such a lock-down on his daughter as far as allowing MY's family to see her.
2. regarding MF's 911 call - i think the operator sounded like an idiot first of all. i know if i found my sibling dead on the floor with many horrible wounds to the body, i'm not sure i would want to touch the body either. i think MF's voice on the call shows terrible distress and fear in the beginning and then changes to trying to compose herself and keep it together for CY. she said from the very beginning of the call that she thought her sister was dead, that the body was cold and stiff. the operator kept asking the same questions and did not seem to be listening to what MF was trying to say. however, when MF does go over to the body and says "michelle" you can hear the sadness and fear the most in her voice.
3. i do not understand why JY will not talk to investigators. i think this shows a guilty man. and the lack of sympathy he is showing to the situation is horrible. if he were so innocent why would he not be standing up for himself and trying to find the real killer. instead he is hiding out and appears to be fine with this case never being solved.
4. he does need the money. who doesn't need a million dollars? especially when you have a 3 year old child and the need to start a new life. he has at least 15 years of supporting this child ahead of him (without her mother).
5. i went to college at State while JY was there. the rumors about him being a womanizer are true and i don't doubt the affair or the "hitting on other women in front of his wife" comments.
6. lastly, i hope that i can have enough faith that the WCSO is building a strong case against the murderer and will get a trial going within a year of the murder.
that's it for now ... thanks for letting me post my thoughts, finally!
:beer:
for friday
alter ego
09-21-2007, 05:48 PM
Originally posted by WonderingInSC
Actually She gave us an excellent synopsis of what has happened. A little bit is her opinion, but most is true facts.
Facts 'is' facts.... JMO
But those was mostly RUMORS, not facts.
Just sayin....
annalyzer
09-21-2007, 06:09 PM
Originally posted by why oh why?
snip~
2. regarding MF's 911 call - i think the operator sounded like an idiot first of all.
911 0p- Can you tell me why she looks dead? Why she looks like she's dead?
Meredith- I don't know. I have no idea.
Now tell me who sounds like the idiot.
alter ego
09-21-2007, 06:11 PM
Originally posted by willow_1
I've been looking around the web this morning. I see Gojo on here not acting like himself.Mimi says she may have news.Gojo on another forum is going camping with the therapist.Do you think maybe something is up? Just wondering.
Looked like someone was making a sand box out of CW's board and decided to play games with nics other people used (and are still referred to as).
An arrest of Jason must be looking awful dismal if they are resorting to childish games like that.:shrug:
JustFacts
09-21-2007, 06:12 PM
Originally posted by alter ego
But those was mostly RUMORS, not facts.
Just sayin....
I don't believe it even rises to the level of rumors.
more like pure gossip, overandoverandover, imo.
Tacori
09-21-2007, 06:13 PM
Welcome, why oh why?! :seeya:
Can you tell us anything else about his behavior(s)?
Did he like to party?
Was he a prankster?
Did he get angry easliy?
Was he the type to pick a fight and run?
TIA!
annalyzer
09-21-2007, 06:16 PM
Originally posted by Tacori
Welcome, why oh why?! :seeya:
Can you tell us anything else about his behavior(s)?
Did he like to party?
Was he a prankster?
Did he get angry easliy?
Was he the type to pick a fight and run?
TIA!
Did he promise to call the next day and never did? :hat:
alter ego
09-21-2007, 06:19 PM
Originally posted by why oh why?
i've been reading on here for awhile and doing alot of research about the case. i have a few comments i would finally like to make.
1. regarding "daddy did it" - i heard it when i listened to the recording and i didn't have an enhanced version. it was very chilling when i did hear it. also i am thinking this is probably why JY is keeping such a lock-down on his daughter as far as allowing MY's family to see her.
-snip-
Funny no one in the media has commented on it. Just a few peeps on msg boards.
Read the statute on the release of public info and then tell me why LE would torpedo a case by releasing a bomb shell like that. Logic dictates the words were not uttered by Michelle's daughter.
5swab5
09-21-2007, 06:19 PM
Originally posted by annalyzer
911 0p- Can you tell me why she looks dead? Why she looks like she's dead?
Meredith- I don't know. I have no idea.
Now tell me who sounds like the idiot.
Maybe it was her first dead body?:shrug:
MOO
Swabby
alter ego
09-21-2007, 06:28 PM
Originally posted by why oh why?
i've been reading on here for awhile and doing alot of research about the case. i have a few comments i would finally like to make.
2. regarding MF's 911 call - i think the operator sounded like an idiot first of all. i know if i found my sibling dead on the floor with many horrible wounds to the body, i'm not sure i would want to touch the body either. i think MF's voice on the call shows terrible distress and fear in the beginning and then changes to trying to compose herself and keep it together for CY. she said from the very beginning of the call that she thought her sister was dead, that the body was cold and stiff. the operator kept asking the same questions and did not seem to be listening to what MF was trying to say. however, when MF does go over to the body and says "michelle" you can hear the sadness and fear the most in her voice.
Sounds to me like she's tayloring her responses. From sounding freaked to being not only calm, but chit chatty.
911: OK. Listen to me, did you see what happened?
Meredith: I don't know, Cassie come here sweety, I'm here with her daughter. There's like blood footprints all over the house, like her daughter's little footprints.
911: OK, listen to me, what's your first name?
Meredith: Meredith
911: Alright Meredith?
Meredith: Yes sir
911: Did you see what happened?
Meredith: I just came here on a fluke, I usually don't come here during the day
:confused: Never did answer if she saw what happened except to say she didn't know if she saw what happened and then went on about when she usually is at the house :confused:
5swab5
09-21-2007, 06:30 PM
Originally posted by annalyzer
Did he promise to call the next day and never did? :hat:
Funny you should mention phone calls, I think they are going to play a very important part, once we get to trial.
We learned very early on, that Jason left early to only drive half way to his "business meeting" the next morning. According to insiders, he called Michelle at least twice Thursday night.
We also learned from the SWs that Jason was frequently "checking his voice mail" on Friday. Wonder how many times he called Michelle in the hours up until he arrived in Brevard and fell "plumb to his knees" on Friday, compared to how many times he called Michelle in a few short hours the night before?
Especially since Michelle had already lost one baby and was scheduled to visit her doctor that morning.
MOO
Swabby
alter ego
09-21-2007, 06:31 PM
Originally posted by scout
Doing so could be hazardous.
Most can tell by reading or listening to that exchange in context that Meredith misunderstood the question and was trying to communicate that she didn't know what had happened to Michelle to cause her death.
It doesn't get any better 'in context'. In fact, it gets WORSE as she skirts the question 'did you see what happened'.
JustFacts
09-21-2007, 06:31 PM
Originally posted by annalyzer
Did he promise to call the next day and never did? :hat:
I think that's a B-I-N-G-O!
alter ego
09-21-2007, 06:36 PM
Originally posted by why oh why?
i've been reading on here for awhile and doing alot of research about the case. i have a few comments i would finally like to make.
3. i do not understand why JY will not talk to investigators. i think this shows a guilty man. and the lack of sympathy he is showing to the situation is horrible. if he were so innocent why would he not be standing up for himself and trying to find the real killer. instead he is hiding out and appears to be fine with this case never being solved.
If you don't understand then you need to retake Civics and learn why our forefathers decided we needed the rights they gave us.
alter ego
09-21-2007, 06:37 PM
Originally posted by scout
Maybe not to anyone with a tin ear, but I expect the jury will have a different reaction. No, I think they'll have the same jaw dropping reaction that I have.
JustFacts
09-21-2007, 06:38 PM
Originally posted by scout
Doing so could be hazardous.
Most can tell by reading or listening to that exchange in context that Meredith misunderstood the question and was trying to communicate that she didn't know what had happened to Michelle to cause her death.
DISPATCHER: Did you see what happened?
MEREDITH: I..I..I just came here on a fluke. I usually, you know, don't come here during the day.
DISPATCHER: Okay.
MEREDITH: She shouldn't be home. She should be at work. Like...
DISPATCHER: Okay, listen to me.
MEREDITH: Yes sir.
MEREDITH: I...I...[inaudible] right now.
DISPATCHER: Did you say...Can you tell me why she looks dead...looks like she's dead?
MEREDITH: I don't know. I have no idea. There's blood all over the place.
http://www.wral.com/news/local/audio/1119462/
"Did you see what happened?" is not a confusing question.
It is a question Mere evaded.
alter ego
09-21-2007, 06:42 PM
Originally posted by why oh why?
i've been reading on here for awhile and doing alot of research about the case. i have a few comments i would finally like to make.
4. he does need the money. who doesn't need a million dollars? especially when you have a 3 year old child and the need to start a new life. he has at least 15 years of supporting this child ahead of him (without her mother).
Who are you to decide if he needs money? If he was trying to collect, he would get slammed just a bad as he's getting slammed for not making a claim.
If you're so concerned about Michelle's daughter, donate to her trust fund.
alter ego
09-21-2007, 06:43 PM
Originally posted by scout
Jason's rights explain why he doesn't have to help. They don't explain why he chooses not to.
Uh,,,, yeah they do...it's called 'following advise of counsel' :read:
alter ego
09-21-2007, 06:45 PM
Originally posted by JustFacts
"Did you see what happened?" is not a confusing question.
It is a question Mere evaded.
She tells the 911 operator she thinks her sister is dead but doesn't know why she looks dead :shrug:
JustFacts
09-21-2007, 06:46 PM
Originally posted by scout
Jason's rights explain why he doesn't have to help. They don't explain why he chooses not to.
I think that explanation will come from the DA at Meredith's trial when he explains that police immediately suspected the husband because his SIL told them the child said she saw him murder her mother.
I believe the SIL then removed the child from the crimescene without investigators ever having the opportunity to question her.
Coming soon to a courtroom in Raleigh, in my humble opinion.
alter ego
09-21-2007, 06:48 PM
Originally posted by 5swab5
Funny you should mention phone calls, I think they are going to play a very important part, once we get to trial.
We learned very early on, that Jason left early to only drive half way to his "business meeting" the next morning. According to insiders, he called Michelle at least twice Thursday night.
We also learned from the SWs that Jason was frequently "checking his voice mail" on Friday. Wonder how many times he called Michelle in the hours up until he arrived in Brevard and fell "plumb to his knees" on Friday, compared to how many times he called Michelle in a few short hours the night before?
Especially since Michelle had already lost one baby and was scheduled to visit her doctor that morning.
MOO
Swabby
Hmmm. Wonder how many times a sales man checks his phone mail on any given day. Wonder how many phone mails a sales man gets on any given day. :read:
why oh why?
09-21-2007, 06:49 PM
Originally posted by Tacori
Welcome, why oh why?! :seeya:
Can you tell us anything else about his behavior(s)?
Did he like to party?
Was he a prankster?
Did he get angry easliy?
Was he the type to pick a fight and run?
TIA!
------
yes
yes
yes
never saw that side of him
why oh why?
09-21-2007, 06:50 PM
Originally posted by annalyzer
Did he promise to call the next day and never did? :hat:
nope - he never promised to do anything for me.
JustFacts
09-21-2007, 06:51 PM
Originally posted by scout
He has a right to an attorney. Whether or not he follows the advice of counsel is his choice. He's made his choice. He has to live with the consequences.
It is a wise man who follows his attorney's advice. Jason's wife and son were murdered and his SIL has tried to set him up for a murder wrap. Doesn't get much worse than that, imo.
why oh why?
09-21-2007, 06:51 PM
Originally posted by alter ego
If you don't understand then you need to retake Civics and learn why our forefathers decided we needed the rights they gave us.
i understand his rights - it's amatter of principle for me. he is doing nothing to help solve the case of his murdered wife.
i don't need to take anything over - i probably have more formal education than you so back off.
alter ego
09-21-2007, 06:53 PM
Originally posted by why oh why?
i've been reading on here for awhile and doing alot of research about the case. i have a few comments i would finally like to make.
5. i went to college at State while JY was there. the rumors about him being a womanizer are true and i don't doubt the affair or the "hitting on other women in front of his wife" comments.
Oh sure they are. Jason the womanizer creep gets the most popular girl in school. uh huh.
:rolleyes:
why oh why?
09-21-2007, 06:56 PM
Originally posted by alter ego
Oh sure they are. Jason the womanizer creep gets the most popular girl in school. uh huh.
:rolleyes:
did you know j young while he was attending nc state?
:confused:
why oh why?
09-21-2007, 06:57 PM
Originally posted by alter ego
Oh sure they are. Jason the womanizer creep gets the most popular girl in school. uh huh.
:rolleyes:
and i never said he was a creep. (for the record)
alter ego
09-21-2007, 06:58 PM
Originally posted by why oh why?
i understand his rights - it's amatter of principle for me. he is doing nothing to help solve the case of his murdered wife.
i don't need to take anything over - i probably have more formal education than you so back off.
You have that entirely wrong. Seems like LE, you know the ones who are PAID to investigate and solve crimes, are the ones doing NOTHING to help solve it. Cuz it's still UNSOLVED.
Didn't your 'formal education' teach you about capital letters? :tongue:
'back off' :lol:
chill out, sheesh. :rolleyes:
JustFacts
09-21-2007, 06:59 PM
Originally posted by scout
(Some text emboldened for ease of address)
Those are two interesting beliefs, JustFacts. Are they pure speculation on your part or something you've been informed of elsewhere.
The foundation of my beliefs requires no explanation.
on the go
09-21-2007, 07:03 PM
Originally posted by JustFacts
The foundation of my beliefs requires no explanation.
You must be related to JY.
springflowers35
09-21-2007, 07:03 PM
Originally posted by JustFacts
The foundation of my beliefs requires no explanation.
:santa:
springflowers35
09-21-2007, 07:04 PM
Originally posted by on the go
You must be related to JY.
:santa: :santa: :santa:
5swab5
09-21-2007, 07:05 PM
Originally posted by JustFacts
I think that explanation will come from the DA at Meredith's trial when he explains that police immediately suspected the husband because his SIL told them the child said she saw him murder her mother.
I believe the SIL then removed the child from the crimescene without investigators ever having the opportunity to question her.
Coming soon to a courtroom in Raleigh, in my humble opinion.
Yeah RiiiighT!
The 911 call was so funky that you are ready to hang Meredith from the highest tree, yet with ALL those responders, Meredith just evaporated with Cassidy in tow.
Guess I'll put this "urban legend" in the same column as "Cassidy's little socks being dipped in blood and used to make footprints".
MOO
Swabby
JustFacts
09-21-2007, 07:05 PM
Originally posted by on the go
You must be related to JY.
Ah, so your caps key does work after all!
Originally posted by why oh why?
i understand his rights - it's amatter of principle for me. he is doing nothing to help solve the case of his murdered wife.
i don't need to take anything over - i probably have more formal education than you so back off.
Welcome to the board, why oh why. Please, do not be bothered by the occasional pettiness. One learns just to ignore it.
jmo
Originally posted by JustFacts
I think that explanation will come from the DA at Meredith's trial when he explains that police immediately suspected the husband because his SIL told them the child said she saw him murder her mother.
I believe the SIL then removed the child from the crimescene without investigators ever having the opportunity to question her.
Coming soon to a courtroom in Raleigh, in my humble opinion.
Do you have a link for Meredith having told LE that CY said that? Do you have a link for Meredith removing CY from the crime scene?
Never mind; of course you don't.
jmo
JustFacts
09-21-2007, 07:07 PM
Originally posted by 5swab5
Yeah RiiiighT!
The 911 call was so funky that you are ready to hang Meredith from the highest tree, yet with ALL those responders, Meredith just evaporated with Cassidy in tow.
Guess I'll put this "urban legend" in the same column as "Cassidy's little socks being dipped in blood and used to make footprints".
MOO
Swabby
Meredith hangs herself with that funky 911 call.
Your constant spin isn't going to put the genie back in the bottle.
:santa:
Tacori
09-21-2007, 07:09 PM
Originally posted by why oh why?
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yes
yes
yes
never saw that side of him
Thanks again, why oh why?!
why oh why?
09-21-2007, 07:11 PM
Originally posted by alter ego
You have that entirely wrong. Seems like LE, you know the ones who are PAID to investigate and solve crimes, are the ones doing NOTHING to help solve it. Cuz it's still UNSOLVED.
Didn't your 'formal education' teach you about capital letters? :tongue:
'back off' :lol:
chill out, sheesh. :rolleyes:
I actually agree with you. They obviously aren't doing enough to solve the crime. However, Jason's participation could help the investigation along. Hasn't this been mentioned in several articles?
Excuse me also for not typing with my capital letters. I am fully capable of using them. I didn't realize this was a place where people would point out something so minute as no capital letters. Kind of like me pointing out your abbreviation of because. (CUZ is not a word).
I will say, I've been reading your posts for awhile now. You have a hot temper. Maybe it's caused by strong passion. But, I was just trying to participate on a board I have been reading for months. I'm sorry if my OPINIONS are not the same as yours. Didn't mean to assist in getting your panties all tied up in a knot.
alter ego
09-21-2007, 07:11 PM
Originally posted by why oh why?
i've been reading on here for awhile and doing alot of research about the case. i have a few comments i would finally like to make.
lastly, i hope that i can have enough faith that the WCSO is building a strong case against the murderer and will get a trial going within a year of the murder.
If they arrested someone today for Michelle's murder, there is no way a trial would be starting before Nov 3rd.
Originally posted by why oh why?
I actually agree with you. They obviously aren't doing enough to solve the crime. However, Jason's participation could help the investigation along. Hasn't this been mentioned in several articles?
Excuse me also for not typing with my capital letters. I am fully capable of using them. I didn't realize this was a place where people would point out something so minute as no capital letters. Kind of like me pointing out your abbreviation of because. (CUZ is not a word).
I will say, I've been reading your posts for awhile now. You have a hot temper. Maybe it's caused by strong passion. But, I was just trying to participate on a board I have been reading for months. I'm sorry if my OPINIONS are not the same as yours. Didn't mean to assist in getting your panties all tied up in a knot.
Again, welcome. :beer:
Originally posted by alter ego
If they arrested someone today for Michelle's murder, there is no way a trial would be starting before Nov 3rd.
Unfortunately, that is probably true. An arrest before that date, however, would be very uplifting.
jmo
why oh why?
09-21-2007, 07:16 PM
Originally posted by alter ego
If they arrested someone today for Michelle's murder, there is no way a trial would be starting before Nov 3rd.
Yes, I realize that. But, maybe a date for the trial to begin would be set by the one year mark. Which is getting a trial going. Correct?
Do you not think a trial should take place? Or are you just so scared to think J might be up there?
And would you please answer my question I asked you. Did you know J Young while he was in college?
Thank you.
alter ego
09-21-2007, 07:18 PM
Originally posted by why oh why?
I actually agree with you. They obviously aren't doing enough to solve the crime. However, Jason's participation could help the investigation along. Hasn't this been mentioned in several articles?
Excuse me also for not typing with my capital letters. I am fully capable of using them. I didn't realize this was a place where people would point out something so minute as no capital letters. Kind of like me pointing out your abbreviation of because. (CUZ is not a word).
I will say, I've been reading your posts for awhile now. You have a hot temper. Maybe it's caused by strong passion. But, I was just trying to participate on a board I have been reading for months. I'm sorry if my OPINIONS are not the same as yours. Didn't mean to assist in getting your panties all tied up in a knot.
Oh I'm sure LE wants to interrogate the husband. They also said that while they have been slowed down, they have not been stopped.
Oh get off your high horse and pull on your big girl britches.
I don't care if your opinions are the same as mine or not. :shrug: And rest assured, you have zero affect on my panties.
Perhaps you would be so kind as to share your OPINION as to why the case isn't solved. tia.
indie
09-21-2007, 07:20 PM
Originally posted by scout
If I could bring myself to use the rolling Santa icon, I'd put one right here.
:santa: Awwwwwwwwe come on scout :santa:
They are just so darn cute :santa:
Originally posted by alter ego
Oh I'm sure LE wants to interrogate the husband. They also said that while they have been slowed down, they have not been stopped.
Oh get off your high horse and pull on your big girl britches.
I don't care if your opinions are the same as mine or not. :shrug: And rest assured, you have zero affect on my panties.
Perhaps you would be so kind as to share your OPINION as to why the case isn't solved. tia.
I am much less interested in her opinions regarding the lack of resolution in this case than I am in her opinions regarding JY's behavior during the time she knew him.
why oh why, anything you could share would be greatly appreciated.
jmo
springflowers35
09-21-2007, 07:22 PM
Originally posted by alter ego
Oh I'm sure LE wants to interrogate the husband. They also said that while they have been slowed down, they have not been stopped.
Oh get off your high horse and pull on your big girl britches.
I don't care if your opinions are the same as mine or not. :shrug: And rest assured, you have zero affect on my panties.
Perhaps you would be so kind as to share your OPINION as to why the case isn't solved. tia.
Because Jason was very good at covering his tracks. Something he learned from his sister, I bet. jmo
alter ego
09-21-2007, 07:24 PM
Originally posted by why oh why?
Yes, I realize that. But, maybe a date for the trial to begin would be set by the one year mark. Which is getting a trial going. Correct?
Do you not think a trial should take place? Or are you just so scared to think J might be up there?
And would you please answer my question I asked you. Did you know J Young while he was in college?
Thank you.
Oh I see what you are saying. But there are a lot of things that have to take place before a trial date is set.
A trial would be great. Would love to hear the facts of the case instead of the gossiping and rumor mongering.
Sorry, I rarely divulge personal info on msg boards.
Originally posted by springflowers35
Because Jason was very good at covering his tracks. Something he learned from his sister, I bet. jmo
As long as I am requesting disclosures, I would be very interested in the information behind that remark as well.
Originally posted by alter ego
Oh I see what you are saying. But there are a lot of things that have to take place before a trial date is set.
A trial would be great. Would love to hear the facts of the case instead of the gossiping and rumor mongering.
Sorry, I rarely divulge personal info on msg boards.
That means no, I gather.
jmo
Originally posted by agathachristie
If you're going to criticize posters about capitalization , then
perhaps you should learn how to spell correctly .
SNIPPED from AE
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Sounds to me like she's tayloring her responses.
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Would that be Elizabeth Tayloring ?
MOO Aggie
;)
Hello, Aggie! I feel a laughing santa coming on.!
alter ego
09-21-2007, 07:28 PM
Originally posted by JustFacts
Meredith hangs herself with that funky 911 call.
Your constant spin isn't going to put the genie back in the bottle.
:santa:
I listened to it again and I'm just stunned at the way she shifts from sounding horrified and shocked to sounding like she's giving her bio and is all chipper. :chicken:
alter ego
09-21-2007, 07:29 PM
Originally posted by agathachristie
If you're going to criticize posters about capitalization , then
perhaps you should learn how to spell correctly .
SNIPPED from AE
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Sounds to me like she's tayloring her responses.
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Would that be Elizabeth Tayloring ?
MOO Aggie
;)
Oh for crying in a bucket. do you know what this guy means ==> :tongue:
sheesh :rolleyes:
5swab5
09-21-2007, 07:30 PM
Originally posted by alter ego
Hmmm. Wonder how many times a sales man checks his phone mail on any given day. Wonder how many phone mails a sales man gets on any given day. :read:
Exactly!
How many phone calls did he make, how many did he receive?
How many of the voice mails did he return, how many AND which ones did he ignore?
My theory is that he was monitoring his voice mail, so he would know FOR SURE, when it was his cue to get home and fall plumb to his knees. He certainly couldn't chance answering anything from either the BirchLeaf phone or Meredith's cell. (The opportunity had come and gone, for him to be with others in a business meeting)
My guess is that he was waiting until he started seeing several phone calls from his parents' house, after all it was a Friday and he was due home in a few hours, I doubt his Mom would have been interrupting him during business hours for no good reason.
At that point, he knew it was safe to go home and try his hand at getting an Academy Award.
Then we have who did he call after the fact? GA? LE? Meredith? Surely he was concerned enough about Cassidy to make a phone call on her behalf? Question is, did he & To whom?
MOO
Swabby
Originally posted by scout
:santa:
It's a regular laugh a minute in here today.
Somewhat refreshing actually!
jmo
Tacori
09-21-2007, 07:32 PM
Originally posted by Dida
I am much less interested in her opinions regarding the lack of resolution in this case than I am in her opinions regarding JY's behavior during the time she knew him.
why oh why, anything you could share would be greatly appreciated.
jmo
Thanks for saying that Dida.
Yes, anything else you feel like you can share about his behavior would be greatly appreciated by many here, why oh why.
Originally posted by 5swab5
Exactly!
How many phone calls did he make, how many did he receive?
How many of the voice mails did he return, how many AND which ones did he ignore?
My theory is that he was monitoring his voice mail, so he would know FOR SURE, when it was his cue to get home and fall plumb to his knees. He certainly couldn't chance answering anything from either the BirchLeaf phone or Meredith's cell. (The opportunity had come and gone, for him to be with others in a business meeting)
My guess is that he was waiting until he started seeing several phone calls from his parents' house, after all it was a Friday and he was due home in a few hours, I doubt his Mom would have been interrupting him during business hours for no good reason.
At that point, he knew it was safe to go home and try his hand at getting an Academy Award.
Then we have who did he call after the fact? GA? LE? Meredith? Surely he was concerned enough about Cassidy to make a phone call on her behalf? Question is, did he & To whom?
MOO
Swabby
The phone call I wonder about, if it happened, is the one to Meredith, to check on his daughter.
jmo
alter ego
09-21-2007, 07:32 PM
Originally posted by on the go
You must be related to JY.
Is that supposed to be an insult?
why oh why?
09-21-2007, 07:34 PM
Originally posted by alter ego
Oh I see what you are saying. But there are a lot of things that have to take place before a trial date is set.
A trial would be great. Would love to hear the facts of the case instead of the gossiping and rumor mongering.
Sorry, I rarely divulge personal info on msg boards.
Thanks for understanding what I was trying to convey. I would love to hear all of the facts too. As I'm sure every reader of this case would.
Maybe you could PM me your answer about knowing him in college. I respect you for not wanting to answer on the board but please don't judge me for information I choose to share about my past with him.
Thanks again.
Tacori
09-21-2007, 07:35 PM
Originally posted by springflowers35
Because Jason was very good at covering his tracks. Something he learned from his sister, I bet. jmo
Speaking of tracks...........
Originally posted by agathachristie
Hi, Dida, good to see you ! I feel the need to concentrate on proper spelling and capitalization which is very difficult for the typing challenged !
If it seeps into proper punctuation, I'm really in trouble ! :D
From my observations, punctuation is an area best not mentioned!
jmo
Originally posted by Tacori
Speaking of tracks...........
Yes?
why oh why?
09-21-2007, 07:37 PM
Originally posted by Tacori
Thanks for saying that Dida.
Yes, anything else you feel like you can share about his behavior would be greatly appreciated by many here, why oh why.
He was like a big kid. Would kind of get hyper-active at times.
indie
09-21-2007, 07:38 PM
Originally posted by why oh why?
Yes, I realize that. But, maybe a date for the trial to begin would be set by the one year mark. Which is getting a trial going. Correct?
Do you not think a trial should take place? Or are you just so scared to think J might be up there?
And would you please answer my question I asked you. Did you know J Young while he was in college?
Thank you.
why oh why,
Based on any information you have about Jason whether it be first-hand or comments made by others, did he ever take advantage of intoxicated and thus vulnerable women in college?
Originally posted by why oh why?
He was like a big kid. Would kind of get hyper-active at times.
Enjoyed attention? Or required it?
alter ego
09-21-2007, 07:38 PM
Originally posted by 5swab5
Exactly!
How many phone calls did he make, how many did he receive?
How many of the voice mails did he return, how many AND which ones did he ignore?
My theory is that he was monitoring his voice mail, so he would know FOR SURE, when it was his cue to get home and fall plumb to his knees. He certainly couldn't chance answering anything from either the BirchLeaf phone or Meredith's cell. (The opportunity had come and gone, for him to be with others in a business meeting)
My guess is that he was waiting until he started seeing several phone calls from his parents' house, after all it was a Friday and he was due home in a few hours, I doubt his Mom would have been interrupting him during business hours for no good reason.
At that point, he knew it was safe to go home and try his hand at getting an Academy Award.
Then we have who did he call after the fact? GA? LE? Meredith? Surely he was concerned enough about Cassidy to make a phone call on her behalf? Question is, did he & To whom?
MOO
Swabby
Huh? How do you 'monitor' your phone mails?
The SW clearly show LE scraped off all the phone mails from his phone and from the carrier. Must not have been anything as explosive as you were hoping or we would have seen an arrest, don't ya think?
Why is Jason's reaction to getting the news that his wife was dead an 'act', yet the bizarre responses by Michelle's only sister on the 911 call are chocked up as 'shock'.
What reaction to the news of his wife's death would be the 'correct' response?
Originally posted by alter ego
Huh? How do you 'monitor' your phone mails?
The SW clearly show LE scraped off all the phone mails from his phone and from the carrier. Must not have been anything as explosive as you were hoping or we would have seen an arrest, don't ya think?
Why is Jason's reaction to getting the news that his wife was dead an 'act', yet the bizarre responses by Michelle's only sister on the 911 call are chocked up as 'shock'.
What reaction to the news of his wife's death would be the 'correct' response?
Do you really want an answer to that?
Tacori
09-21-2007, 07:42 PM
Originally posted by why oh why?
He was like a big kid. Would kind of get hyper-active at times.
As in?
Needed to be the life of the party, or ... a big baby when things didn't go his way? Can you help me out here?
Originally posted by why oh why?
I actually agree with you. They obviously aren't doing enough to solve the crime. However, Jason's participation could help the investigation along. Hasn't this been mentioned in several articles?
Excuse me also for not typing with my capital letters. I am fully capable of using them. I didn't realize this was a place where people would point out something so minute as no capital letters. Kind of like me pointing out your abbreviation of because. (CUZ is not a word).
I will say, I've been reading your posts for awhile now. You have a hot temper. Maybe it's caused by strong passion. But, I was just trying to participate on a board I have been reading for months. I'm sorry if my OPINIONS are not the same as yours. Didn't mean to assist in getting your panties all tied up in a knot.
Big old knot !! Welcome !
alter ego
09-21-2007, 07:53 PM
Originally posted by scout
He has a right to an attorney. Whether or not he follows the advice of counsel is his choice. He's made his choice. He has to live with the consequences.
Well it would be pretty silly to pay for advise of counsel and then ignore the advice.
He sure has made his choice and the only consequence he has to live with is a life with his daughter.
Originally posted by alter ego
Well it would be pretty silly to pay for advise of counsel and then ignore the advice.
He sure has made his choice and the only consequence he has to live with is a life with his daughter.
For CY's sake, I hope that is true. Logic tells me otherwise, however.
alter ego
09-21-2007, 08:06 PM
Originally posted by scout
Believing that's the only consequence he's had to live with since November 3rd shows how limited your knowledge is.
No, it shows how grounded in reality I am.
Tacori
09-21-2007, 08:11 PM
Originally posted by why oh why?
Thank you! See you all next week I guess. Don't have access over weekend!
Have a great weekend!
Thanks for your insight. I appreciate it. :seeya:
Originally posted by agathachristie
What a keen observation . My eyes tend to glaze over after awhile . The lack of any real news contributes to the board "going south " , don't you think ?
I've gone on record thinking the husband is the perp , yet based on what WE know , I could not convict him were I a juror .
I can understand someone posting their support for the husband . No one here , despite all the back and forth , in their hearts wants it to be him .
What I can't understand is the campaign to malign the sister in the hopes of deflecting blame from the husband .
Is it because she found her sister and heard first hand what the little girl said ? No one has questioned her friend that last saw her alive . The talk of an intruder never really took flight .
And ten months later there has not been another murder in that fashion, in that vicinity .
Enjoy all of your posts, Dida .
MOO Aggie
Thank you, Aggie. I find your posts very insightful, and they often cut clear to the heart of matters.
I think it is very frustrating for everyone here, who truly cares about the murder of Michelle Young, to have no news, no developments, no information. It is no wonder that this board sometimes deteriorates into "I'm right. No, I'm right."
The sad thing for me is that none of this gets any of us any closer to justice for Michelle. And, with a few exceptions, I truly believe that is what we all want.
jmo
annalyzer
09-21-2007, 08:48 PM
Originally posted by Tacori
snip~
JMHO, but I find it disturbing when new posters are treated poorly by anyone.
No one should be treated poorly on here by anyone. If one poster smarts off another they should expect the same in return. Looks like that is what took place to me.
JustFacts
09-21-2007, 08:56 PM
Originally posted by agathachristie
What a keen observation . My eyes tend to glaze over after awhile . The lack of any real news contributes to the board "going south " , don't you think ?
I've gone on record thinking the husband is the perp , yet based on what WE know , I could not convict him were I a juror .
I can understand someone posting their support for the husband . No one here , despite all the back and forth , in their hearts wants it to be him .
What I can't understand is the campaign to malign the sister in the hopes of deflecting blame from the husband .
Is it because she found her sister and heard first hand what the little girl said ? No one has questioned her friend that last saw her alive . The talk of an intruder never really took flight .
And ten months later there has not been another murder in that fashion, in that vicinity .
Enjoy all of your posts, Dida .
MOO Aggie
It is the 911 call that maligns the sister. Her words. Her evasiveness. Her unwillingness to touch her sister. Her asking the child leading questions yet refusing to answer questions from the 911 dispatcher.
The 911 call has absolutely nothing to do with supporting Jason or the friend who was with Michelle that night or theories about an intruder.
I think you and your posting pals are unable or unwilling to make an objective analysis of the call because you desperately want the husband to be the guilty party. I also think you are soon to be bitterly disappointed.
JMO
JustFacts
09-21-2007, 09:03 PM
Originally posted by scout
The date of your last prediction came and went with no fulfillment. I'm not holding my breath.
Link, please.
Kat4Eagles
09-21-2007, 09:09 PM
Originally posted by JustFacts
Link, please.
Would that include the poster who promised us that an arrest was a sure thing back in March?
April, May, June, July, August......3/4 of September and still waiting.
JMO
Kat
JustFacts
09-21-2007, 09:10 PM
Originally posted by scout
You're too late, Kat. The new topic was whether or not Jason ever took advantage of intoxicated coeds during his days at NCSU. The discussion ended when the new poster, "why oh why?", took off for the weekend. Better luck next time.
I'm so excited that you're here, I feel like doing the Ren & Stimpy dance. Happy, happy, joy, joy! Happy, happy, joy, joy!
When you're finished dancing, could you kindly provide the link to the prediction you accused me of making? Thanks, much.
JustFacts
09-21-2007, 09:11 PM
Originally posted by Kat4Eagles
Would that include the poster who promised us that an arrest was a sure thing back in March?
April, May, June, July, August......3/4 of September and still waiting.
JMO
Kat
Would that be Ren or Stimpy?
Kat4Eagles
09-21-2007, 09:12 PM
Originally posted by why oh why?
He was like a big kid. Would kind of get hyper-active at times.
I guess I have to go back and read all 4 pages to see what you are talking about...
A brand new poster, huh?
JMO
Kat
Kat4Eagles
09-21-2007, 09:14 PM
Originally posted by JustFacts
Would that be Ren or Stimpy?
Not sure, but no one is discussing the baby, I am surprized, I thought it was only a secret until this weekend...
Let me catch up..
:)
JMO
Kat
JustFacts
09-21-2007, 09:15 PM
Originally posted by scout
I can't link to a news event that didn't occur, JustFacts. No news is good news...for Jason.
I didn't ask you to link a news event. You accused me of posting a prediction. I merely asked you to support your allegation.
Let me rephrase: please provide a link to the posting where I made a prediction. Thank you very much.
Kat4Eagles
09-21-2007, 09:17 PM
Originally posted by annalyzer
[B]
Slamming as in calling her a druggie and accusing her of embezzlement like someone else we know? :cool: [
/B]
whoa...............see what happens when I leave town for the day..
Go, you.!!!!
:)
JMO
Kat
on the go
09-21-2007, 09:20 PM
Originally posted by scout
You're confused.
It's "why oh why" who is typing in lowercase, not "on the go".
Thank you, Scout, for the clarification.
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