Michelle YOUNG 8/24 -> 8/27

[Dida]

Originally posted by Wyn
Remember these words "Pro-Jason coven has new innuendo to deflect suspicion away from the probable guilty party". Have a good night Tiny and Dida....

:seeya:

G'night Wyn :seeya:

[Dida]

Originally posted by agathachristie


I hate when that happens.

Lindsey posted long ago that the victim was on her computer at midnight and she wasn't upset . Now, she doesn't want to address it.

If that is true , I think it would be interesting to explore that .

Where did this come from ? Was she emailing or IM'ing a friend ?

What did she say/write/not say/not write for them to make such an assessment ?

The TOD is supposedly between midnight and 6 a.m.

If she was on her computer at midnight one would assume she was awake . Was she in the office on the second floor ? The room with the printer and fax machine ? Did she see the infamous document about the coach purse ? Or was she in bed using a laptop ?

Either way she would be awake to hear an intruder enter the house, right ?

The baby was no doubt snuggled in her bed. Where was the dog ?

So many unanswered questions........

I've said it before and I'll say it again: I really like the way you cut right through things, Aggie.

jmo

[WonderingInSC]

Originally posted by HI_CYCLE
Because the husband has NOT been arrested and has NEVER been name as a POI. Now for the next question,who recently hired a attorney,clue,she lives in NY.

and how do you know that she hired an atty. ? Next you all will be saying she called herself to go get the fax....

[ReedJ]

Originally posted by Wyn


No you're not. If you were, you'd be wondering why Jason has made NO ATTEMPT to help LE. I would advise you to settle when the libel suit is filed. And I'm wondering why you're not on iggy like the other people who try to start rumors and malign innocent people who were called to the killer's home on a "fluke". I guess it's a "fluke" that I need to take care of since I have no interest in reading any more of your made up allegations. Good luck on the law suit. Buh bye!

:biggrin:

JY has no choice but to invoke his rights or he'd be railroaded. Don't know why so many struggle with this. JMO

[tiny paw-prints]

Originally posted by agathachristie


(respectfully snipped)

If she was on her computer at midnight one would assume she was awake .



IIRC, Peterson-West said his wife was awake after she was dead. I think he also said that he had a conversation with her too.

[ReedJ]

Originally posted by HI_CYCLE
Because the husband has NOT been arrested and has NEVER been name as a POI. Now for the next question,who recently hired a attorney,clue,she lives in NY.

Interesting.IMO

[lilismom]

Originally posted by ReedJ


JY has no choice but to invoke his rights or he'd be railroaded. Don't know why so many struggle with this. JMO

Is he being railroaded though? I know, I know, all men are. But is he? And don't tell me about the posters here. Is he being railroaded by LE or even in the media?

I can see maybe if in the beginning he felt threatened by LE's tone but now? Heck, he's not even named a suspect or person of interest and yet he doesn't even stick his toe in the water?

Can you UNinvoke your rights and then REinvoke them again?

IMO,
Lilismom

[ReedJ]

Originally posted by agathachristie


Well, thank you , Dida. I'm flattered .

I also enjoy reading your solid posts.

Especially the one today reminding us all of the gravity of this case .

With the lack of real news , we tend to get lost in the smoke and mirrors , and the bickering .

I'm hoping against hope that the husband didn't do this , as everyone else on this board.

Unfortunately , my woman's intuition ( that's for you, Reed buddy,
;) ) tells me differently.

JMHO....Aggie

Forgive me if I don't believe You when you say You hope the husband didn't do this. ;) JMO. If that were the case you'd show it more in your posts by giving him a presumption of innocence. IMO

[ReedJ]

Originally posted by lilismom


Is he being railroaded though? I know, I know, all men are. But is he? And don't tell me about the posters here. Is he being railroaded by LE or even in the media?

I can see maybe if in the beginning he felt threatened by LE's tone but now? Heck, he's not even named a suspect or person of interest and yet he doesn't even stick his toe in the water?

Can you UNinvoke your rights and then REinvoke them again?

IMO,
Lilismom

No. The point is they are struggling to railroad him because he invoked his rights. Now they need actual evidence to pin it on him. IMO

[lilismom]

Originally posted by ReedJ


Forgive me if I don't believe You when you say You hope the husband didn't do this. ;) JMO. If that were the case you'd show it more in your posts by giving him a presumption of innocence. IMO

Can we believe in the presumption of innocence as it pertains to a court of law and a seated jury but still argue and opine for one side or the other here? If not, why are we all here? We'd have nothing to talk about.

IMO,
Lilismom

[lilismom]

Originally posted by ReedJ


No. The point is they are struggling to railroad him because he invoked his rights. Now they need actual evidence to pin it on him. IMO


Is MF being railroaded as well or is that term reserved for men only?

I haven't read any actual evidence there either. Have you?

IMO,
Lilismom

[karen]

Originally posted by Wyn



You're right, a lot of people are talking about this case. Not only at Lake Wheeler but at Lake Jordan, Regency Park, and even in Durham yesterday. The most repeated question in these conversations is "When do you think Jason will finally be arrested?".

Guess what,
Its being talked about in Greenville S.C. also. Is'nt that where JY spends his weeknights while working;) ?

JMO

[Apoc]

Originally posted by karen


Guess what,
Its being talked about in Greenville S.C. also. Is'nt that where JY spends his weeknights while working;) ?

JMO

What are they saying Karen?

[tiny paw-prints]

Originally posted by karen


Guess what,
Its being talked about in Greenville S.C. also. Is'nt that where JY spends his weeknights while working;) ?

JMO

Interesting. What's the population of Greenville SC?

7,000 in Brevard? Are they talking about it too?

[Dida]

Originally posted by karen


Guess what,
Its being talked about in Greenville S.C. also. Is'nt that where JY spends his weeknights while working;) ?

JMO

C'mon, Karen what have you heard? :)

[tiny paw-prints]

Originally posted by Apoc


What are they saying Karen?


Maybe the ad in that sport's magazine created some live chatter?

How many subscribers to that mag?

Does anyone know?

[Barbara2]

Originally posted by ALTER EG0
Yeah, I hear everyone is curious about the Only Sister and her possible role.

No. I think it's just you and four or five others.

The majority know that MF loved her sister and very possibly got set up in a horrible way. I'm sure the majority believe and have seen evidence that MF's only role was to rescue the child and be "set up" by the murderer. imo.

[Dida]

~SIGH~ I thought we were past this, at least for the day. G'night all.

[tiny paw-prints]

Originally posted by ALTER EG0
Yeah, I hear everyone is curious about the Only Sister and her possible role.

I think most people are curious about the dog that won't hunt for his murdered wife's Killer. JMO.

[tiny paw-prints]

Originally posted by Andy Taylor


All 12,000 Wolfpack Club members receive that publication. This edition will be well read from cover to cover since it is the big football preview :)

12,000 members.

thanks! :cool:

[karen]

Originally posted by Dida


C'mon, Karen what have you heard? :)


People are just discussing it here also, I guess because it is
taking soooo long for an arrest, we are not far from
Brevard NC, about 45 miles through the mountains...and we also
get the same news channel that Brevard gets, so when it first
happened it was also BIG news here. I work in a Hospital here
about 20 miles outside of Greenville SC, and it is a topic of
discussion sometimes at our "Lunch Breaks" ......also some of the
talk about dipping CY's socks in blood and the photo's of the crime scene that supposedly are being passed around...just makes ya sick. Just wanted to say it is talked about here also

JMO.... Justice For Michelle



:rose:

[Apoc]

Originally posted by ALTER EG0

No, she didn't admit to any affair.


So what do you think they were discussing via email for three months?

[karen]

Originally posted by tiny paw-prints



Maybe the ad in that sport's magazine created some live chatter?

How many subscribers to that mag?

Does anyone know?

Lots of N.C. State grads here.....:D

[Barbara2]

Originally posted by Apoc



So what do you think they were discussing via email for three months?

I appreciate the effort but I don't think it matters.

Go bang your head against a brick wall. You'll get the same results. imo

[Barbara2]

Originally posted by ALTER EG0

You and the 'majority' know no such thing.

Y'all can believe whatever you want, doesn't make it a fact.

Doesn't make it fiction either. Can you prove otherwise?

[Apoc]

Originally posted by Andy Taylor
Nite Barbara. Good luck, I'm going outside and bang my head against the wall.

:seeya:

No sense banging your head, AE has no answer for my question, just like I thought.

[Barbara2]

Originally posted by ALTER EG0

Yes, if you defer to your atty, they are to go to your atty.

LE can demand whatever they want but if they know someone has invoked right to counsel it would be a stupid move on their part to try ot talk to someone w/o their atty.

Is that right to counsel or right to conceal? In this case it seems like it might be more of the latter. imo

[lilismom]

Originally posted by ALTER EG0
All LE has to do is contact his atty. Have they done that? Doesn't appear to be the case cuz all they do is whine that Jason won't talk to them. Not a word about his atty denying them access as would be the case.

Depends on the circumstances.

Why is it whining? I don't generally think of LE as whiners. When you say "whine" it makes it sound like you think they're a bunch of babies that aren't getting their way. Why isn't it just as they say it is "not cooperating". Is it that you don't like that they're not saying "he's invoked his rights"? Is it that you don't like the message "not cooperating" sends? Jason is in complete control of that message.

I understand why he needs the attorney. I understand that he doesn't want to be asked and answer questions that may point a finger at him. He doesn't want to dig himself in but why doesn't he want to help dig himself out? Why isn't he wondering, after 10 long months, why no one has been arrested or even hauled in for questioning (before anyone goes there, I don't know for sure that they haven't)? He doesn't care? He's too scared to talk? Would you let the fear of being railroaded keep you from at the very least picking up the phone, from your attorney's office if necessary, to find out what the hold up is? He has a right to know. Why isn't he invoking that right?

I know, all or nothing. And he continues to choose nothing.

IMO,
Lilismom

[Apoc]

Originally posted by ALTER EG0

You need to exercise patience.

While you think up a good response?

[Barbara2]

Originally posted by ALTER EG0

Sad you don't know what your own rights are.

I know my rights. Since I have not and will not kill another person, I don't think I have much to worry about. Are you saying that you are on the side of a guilty person getting away with murder by invoking their rights?

[Barbara2]

Originally posted by ALTER EG0

Can't prove false that which hasn't been proven true. Let's see the proof of an affair as the allegation must be proven, not the innocence of it.

LE has the evidence and knows the truth so it doesn't matter what you or I believe. imo

[tiny paw-prints]

Originally posted by agathachristie


(snipped)

Can an attorney refuse access to his client ?



It's become my recent understanding that Jason presently is no longer represented by counsel, because there's nothing to defend?

Maybe Jason dropped legal representation after his vehicle was released by LE?

[ReedJ]

Originally posted by agathachristie



Now Reed , dear, have I not always been honest with you ?

Didn't I agree that I always think the man is at fault ?

Now, I left out the part that I think women are far smarter than men , didn't I ?

I bet your mother is smarter than you. She is smart enough to let you THINK you are smart .

Forgive me for not parsing my words.

I don't want the father of the little girl to be the perp .

Noone on this board wants that.

She has suffered enough.

Unfortunately , in my heart, I'm thinking her father has caused this pain and suffering.

JMHO....Aggie

LOL. Women are hardly smarter than men. You should thank us for the fact You have a house to live in and just about everything else....all on the backs of men. ;) You're welcome. IMO

[lilismom]

Originally posted by agathachristie



So what you are saying is, that his attorney can't say" my client

refuses to speak with you" , but the attorney can say" my client

refuses to speak with you without his attorney being present ".

Correct ?


If I may jump in on your list of questions Aggie....

And, if you know, can they also say "and here is the list of questions you can ask him?" or some such other stipulation?

IMO,
Lilismom

[tiny paw-prints]

Originally posted by ReedJ


LOL. Women are hardly smarter than men. You should thank us for the fact You have a house to live in and just about everything else....all on the backs of men. ;) You're welcome. IMO

:santa:

:lol:

[Surfside6]

Originally posted by tiny paw-prints


It's become my recent understanding that Jason presently is no longer represented by counsel, because there's nothing to defend?

Maybe Jason dropped legal representation after his vehicle was released by LE?

tiny,
i think that was just a word game, "personal attorney" vs. "criminal attorney."

i think R Smith Jr. still represents jason but i'm not positive.

it could be that the retainer has run out and jason is waiting until he's arrested before the clock starts up again w/ billable hours from Tharrington Smith.
imo

[ReedJ]

Originally posted by agathachristie



Oh, cmon, Reed, lighten up !

I do thank my dear husband that I have a house to live in .

Just curious . Did your father carry you for nine months ?


Aggie

Nope. I think it was about eight and a half. Just reminding You that when You trash men you may be forgetting that all the infrastructure , highways and buildings , vehicles are made by men .....sure there was the token woman now and again but in real life while You're bashing men we all know the truth. ;) JMO

[tiny paw-prints]

Originally posted by Surfside6


tiny,
i think that was just a word game, "personal attorney" vs. "criminal attorney."

i think R Smith Jr. still represents jason but i'm not positive.

it could be that the retainer has run out and jason is waiting until he's arrested before the clock starts up again w/ billable hours from Tharrington Smith.
imo

You're probably right!

Too many word games.

[ReedJ]

Originally posted by the breeze




This is a joke right? I know alot of woman who work just as hard if not harder then some men gee i feel sorry for your wife i bet you let her know you think your smarter then she is every day of her life, better watch out she may get toired of y our bull chitt one of these days i know i am. jmo

:rolleyes: hey...the truth hurts and I didn't start it. I'm sure You have many female friends who have mastered the art of pedicures and manicures, very hard workers. IMO

[ReedJ]

Originally posted by the breeze




Does this mean you didn't get your nails done this wekend:shrug: ....jmo

I find that clippers work fine. JMO. Now back on topic . JMO. We were talking about how JY was out of town and it's been 10 months with no arrest.

[lilismom]

Originally posted by ALTER EG0
only if they want to be laughed at

Alright. Since we're all just supposin here...

Do you think that, if they did ask his lawyer for an interview and one was granted, even if JY agreed just to change his public image, that there wouldn't be much answering and plenty of "don't answer that"? If we're judging public perception based on "not cooperating" or "we asked and he refused to answer", isn't that worse? I think it is. I think though, that they would still just continue to say, "not cooperating". JMO.

Keeping in mind, of course, that we don't know if they've asked.

IMO,
Lilismom

[Apoc]

Originally posted by ReedJ


Nope. I think it was about eight and a half. Just reminding You that when You trash men you may be forgetting that all the infrastructure , highways and buildings , vehicles are made by men .....sure there was the token woman now and again but in real life while You're bashing men we all know the truth. ;) JMO


Woah! I am a Structural Engineer and I am a woman. What age are you living in?

[ReedJ]

Originally posted by agathachristie



I'm not trashing men ! I told you a million times I happen to love men ! I just think women are smart and strong, too.

And the men in my neighborhood must be weak. The infrastructure around here could use some new "infrastructuring "!

Enough O/T

How much longer before this case is solved ?

MOO..........Aggie

You're original post said " women are smarter than men" If you just said that women are smart too like in this post I wouldn't have even took notice because I know many smart women.

In terms of the case I think that LE could solve if they have done what I think they are doing and that is broadening their investigation to include other possibilities. I find it hard to believe the perp left no physical evidence at the crime scene. JMO

[tiny paw-prints]

Originally posted by ReedJ


LOL. Women are hardly smarter than men.

(snipped)

It's possible the killer thought Michelle was so smart and brilliant, that's probably why he focused on her head with an overkill. I wonder what a profiler would have to say about that?

I've heard that sociopaths get very angry when someone figures them out, or even comes close to figuring them out.

[ReedJ]

Originally posted by Apoc



Woah! I am a Structural Engineer and I am a woman. What age are you living in?

Give it up, I'm sure you can draw. It's done. IMO.

[ReedJ]

Originally posted by tiny paw-prints


It's possible the killer thought Michelle was so smart and brilliant, that's probably why he focused on her head with an overkill. I wonder what a profiler would have to say about that?

I've heard that sociopaths get very angry when someone figures them out, or even comes close to figuring them out.

I think the killer needed to make quick work of her and the head is an ideal place to focus on. She would be overpowered easy . IMO

[Apoc]

Originally posted by ReedJ


Give it up, I'm sure you can draw. It's done. IMO.

Oh how I'd LOVE to see you sit for your PE license!!! Drawing has NOTHING to do with it, the are called CAD operators, not PE's.

[Lindsey]

Originally posted by tiny paw-prints



I'm curious to know who posted about the rumor in February, that Michelle Money was pregnant.

I'm not sure who posted the comment first but it was immediately confirmed by RPD and Sorsista(sp?) and a few minutes later another poster - Flicka or Scout - said s/he had known it for at least a month. So, apparently it wasn't a well kept secret.

IMO

[ReedJ]

Originally posted by Apoc


Oh how I'd LOVE to see you sit for your PE license!!! Drawing has NOTHING to do with it, the are called CAD operators, not PE's.

Relax. Men have been designing and engineering and ACTUALLY building long before you were born. Deal with it. Get back to the case. IMO

[Lindsey]

Originally posted by WonderingInSC


and how do you know that she hired an atty. ?
(snip)

Bud Wiser confirmed it to be true. Don't you put a lot of stock in his posts? If not, I apologize I have you confused with someone else.

[Apoc]

Originally posted by ReedJ


Relax. Men have been designing and engineering and ACTUALLY building long before you were born. Deal with it. Get back to the case. IMO


Maybe, but I have spent much of my career fixing the errors of men. I think I have found your weak spot.........

[ReedJ]

Originally posted by Apoc



Maybe, but I have spent much of my career fixing the errors of men. I think I have found your weak spot.........

LOL. I guess that's all you got.

[Apoc]

Originally posted by ReedJ


LOL. I guess that's all you got.

Well, I sure didn't have much to work with.

[ReedJ]

Originally posted by the breeze



Well let's hope this changes soon if it wasn't jason i will be very happy i just wish they would find the one who did this.

I think that there are more women on here that would justify JY being convicted of murder and get death because they believe he cheated on his wife. I think they would feel unfulfilled if it turned out to be an intruder. JMO

[ReedJ]

Originally posted by Apoc


Well, I sure didn't have much to work with.

At least You're honest. imo. We should get back to the case.

[tiny paw-prints]

Originally posted by Lindsey


I'm not sure who posted the comment first but it was immediately confirmed by RPD and Sorsista(sp?) and a few minutes later another poster - Flicka or Scout - said s/he had known it for at least a month. So, apparently it wasn't a well kept secret.

IMO

Now that it's been posted on a public message board that Michelle was on the computer after midnight and not upset, apparently that isn't a well kept secret either?

[Apoc]

Originally posted by ReedJ


At least You're honest. imo. We should get back to the case.

Yes I am sweetie. You didn't give me much to work with:D

As far as getting back to the case.........its going no where. We are all just sitting here arguing our opinion and spinning our wheels. We are really hurting for some new news.

[ReedJ]

Originally posted by agathachristie


But you have insinuated that the LE has refused to speak with him with an attorney present .

How do you know this to be true ?

Is this just your opinion ?

What I don't understand is why LE can't analyze the body and crime scene and get to work solving the crime. Once JY has stated he will Invoke his rights it should be a non issue for them. The evidence at the scene or on the body does not change whether JY is talking to them or not. IMO:shrug:

[ReedJ]

Originally posted by agathachristie


You are right. I did say that . Just pulling your chain a bit ;)

Aggie

Okay . Big group hug and we move on . Two girls for each guy....J/K.:D

[Apoc]

Originally posted by ReedJ


What I don't understand is why LE can't analyze the body and crime scene and get to work solving the crime. Once JY has stated he will Invoke his rights it should be a non issue for them. The evidence at the scene or on the body does not change whether JY is talking to them or not. IMO:shrug:

I have to agree. LE must be waiting on something, what we have no idea, but for whatever reason they are unable to place JY or anyone else at the scene at this time.

[Lindsey]

Originally posted by tiny paw-prints


Now that it's been posted on a public message board that Michelle was on the computer after midnight and not upset, apparently that isn't a well kept secret either?

You were curious to know who posted about the rumor in February, that Michelle Money was pregnant. I answered to the best of my memory.

edited to correct typo

[ReedJ]

Originally posted by Apoc


I have to agree. LE must be waiting on something, what we have no idea, but for whatever reason they are unable to place JY or anyone else at the scene at this time.

Yes. I think it fair to say that JY was the one and only being investigated and scrutinized from day one. If he had one bloody print smudged in blood at the scene or one of his hairs tangled in her hand he'd be cooked. Clearly LE has established to some degree that maybe just maybe he was actually out of town when this occurred. JMO:shrug:

[Apoc]

Originally posted by ReedJ


Yes. I think it fair to say that JY was the one and only being investigated and scrutinized from day one. If he had one bloody print smudged in blood at the scene or one of his hairs tangled in her hand he'd be cooked. Clearly LE has established to some degree that maybe just maybe he was actually out of town when this occurred. JMO:shrug: I hope he was out of town. I hope it wasn't him as most of us here hope.

[ReedJ]

Originally posted by Apoc
I hope he was out of town. I hope it wasn't him as most of us here hope.

I seriously get the feeling that many posters can justify a conviction against him from their belief he may have cheated alone. I think that's enough for some to give him death...I really believe that. I think that most would much rather see JY convicted without evidence than for this case not to be solved. JMO

[Apoc]

Originally posted by ReedJ


Okay . Big group hug and we move on . Two girls for each guy....J/K.:D

No fair, we'd need five of you to equal 1/4 man!!! j/k:D

[ReedJ]

Originally posted by ALTER EG0

Because they are whining. Jason talking to LE or not has absolutely no bearing on his guilt or innocence nor does it have any bearing on the case.

If LE can't solve the crime without him they need to find another profession.

Dig himself out of what? He's not under arrest nor is he facing any charges.

Why is it, do you think, that the founding forefathers gave us the rights you are now holding against Jason and using to infer guilt?

Right on the money. The man has simply invoked his rights...it's unreal.IMO

[ReedJ]

Originally posted by Apoc


No fair, we'd need five of you to equal 1/4 man!!! j/k:D

You wish. lol

[tiny paw-prints]

Originally posted by Lindsey


You were curious to know who posted about the rumor in February, that Michelle Money was pregnant. I answered to the best of my memory.

edited to correct typo

Thanks, Lindsey!

But, I remember an anonymous poster, other than any of those you mention above, who had posted about MM's pregnancy.

IIRC, Michelle and Steve Money had canceled their plans (perhaps at the last minute) to travel to Raleigh for that weekend. I'm wondering if MY was in communication with MM on the night just prior to MY's murder, either by email or IM?

MM and SM were invited and they canceled? Alleging that their little boy was sick? When did they cancel, if you know?

[Lindsey]

Originally posted by tiny paw-prints


Thanks, Lindsey!

But, I remember an anonymous poster, other than any of those you mention above, who had posted about MM's pregnancy.

IIRC, Michelle and Steve Money had canceled their plans (perhaps at the last minute) to travel to Raleigh for that weekend. I'm wondering if MY was in communication with MM on the night just prior to MY's murder, either by email or IM?

MM and SM were invited and they canceled? Alleging that their little boy was sick? When did they cancel, if you know?

I think you're right there was another poster in addition to the ones I named before but as I said, I don't recall who it was.

I recall something about M&SM had plans to go to Raleigh that weekend and cancelled but I don't recall when or why they did.

[tiny paw-prints]

Originally posted by Lindsey


I think you're right there was another poster in addition to the ones I named before but as I said, I don't recall who it was.

I recall something about M&SM had plans to go to Raleigh that weekend and cancelled but I don't recall when or why they did.

I think there's a few of us here that remember who First posted about MM's pregnancy. Later, there were other posters who came along and confirmed it.

It's quite common for small children to become sick and then the parents have to cancel their plans at the last minute. Although, I know of many grandparents who do not mind welcoming their grandkids into their home, even though the toddler might be sick.

It was supposed to have been a Big Weekend. Planned in advance.

[Lindsey]

Originally posted by tiny paw-prints


I think there's a few of us here that remember who First posted about MM's pregnancy. Later, there were other posters who came along and confirmed it.

(snip)


quote:
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Originally posted by tiny paw-prints



I'm curious to know who posted about the rumor in February, that Michelle Money was pregnant.

If you remember, why did you say you were curious to know?

[crocus]

Originally posted by ReedJ


You wish. lol


......when I read your posts all I can think of is that tv commercial...."existential meltdown"

[tiny paw-prints]

Originally posted by Lindsey



If you remember, why did you say you were curious to know?

I dunno. I guess sometimes I think my memory might not be very good? Early to mid-February was about 6-7 months ago!

And, last night you reminded me to get my glasses.

[Lindsey]

Originally posted by tiny paw-prints


I dunno. I guess sometimes I think my memory might not be very good? Early to mid-February was about 6-7 months ago!

And, last night you reminded me to get my glasses.

It sure has been a long time. I wish all the old posts were still here. It would make it easier to keep things straight.

Sorry about the glasses remark. lol I'd be lost without mine, for real.

[springflowers35]

Originally posted by Coldwater



Changed name, changed IP, can't you change your posting habits, it takes time to keep banning you.


it seems to me if you would at least READ thru a thread and know who is causing the trouble, it would save yourself a heck of a lot of time in your banning. :seeya: bye all!

[tiny paw-prints]

Originally posted by Lindsey


It sure has been a long time. I wish all the old posts were still here. It would make it easier to keep things straight.

Sorry about the glasses remark. lol I'd be lost without mine, for real.

Old posts of 10 months ago and keeping things straight.

I think many of those who came here in the early days are probably not posting here now, but maybe just lurking?

Many of them might have been interviewed by LE and possible witnesses at time of trial. They may have been given a gag order to preserve the integrity of this case? 100's of interviews?

[Surfside6]

"The dead cannot cry out for justice; it is a duty of the living to do so for them."

Lois McMaster Bujold

RPD under any nic has done everything in his power to help michelle marie fisher and her family in their efforts to seek justice for this brutal slaying.

He has been badgered at every turn by the 5 resident trolls on this thread who have posted under many nics.

they have run this thread into the ground.
imo

[macduff]

let not your heart be troubled

they are fooling no one

[tiny paw-prints]

Hi Surf!

Excellent quote you posted and thanks for sharing it with us:

"The dead cannot cry out for justice; it is a duty of the living to do so for them."

Lois McMaster Bujold

[Leanne Weich]

Originally posted by ALTER EG0
Of course he can't prove it and seems to *forget* that LE isn't calling it an affair and the media reworded their latest report on this story to specifically remove the term 'affair'.

His rumor mongering and need to be someone with *info* on the WWW doesn't trump the words, or lack thereof, of LE, the media and most importantly, Steve Money himself.

They were all friends and MM and JY has almost daily email or phone contact. PERIOD.

Did you really expect SM to discuss his marital problems with the nation in the newspaper? I certainly think that is highly unlikely. I think most average men would be horrified to learn that their wife was having almost daily email and phone contact with another male, even if said male was a friend of the marriage which, at this point, imo, is debateable (even more so if said communication resulted in a SW being issued in the investigation in a murder case). If this "relationship" was so innocent, with a mutual friend, I wonder why JY chose to communicate with MM rather than SM?

[BiggerRedDog]

Originally posted by Leanne Weich
Did you really expect SM to discuss his marital problems with the nation in the newspaper? I certainly think that is highly unlikely. I think most average men would be horrified to learn that their wife was having almost daily email and phone contact with another male, even if said male was a friend of the marriage which, at this point, imo, is debateable (even more so if said communication resulted in a SW being issued in the investigation in a murder case). If this "relationship" was so innocent, with a mutual friend, I wonder why JY chose to communicate with MM rather than SM? Maybe he's more of a ladies' man than a man's man, Leanne. :)

[Leanne Weich]

Originally posted by ReedJ
The best Justice I've seen in this case is that after 10 months JY is free and with his daughter.

IMO

That is Justice

IMO, if LE got a full confession from JY and he allocuated to the crime in Court, you'd still find a reason to blame women for what he'd done and you'd still be making excuses for JY.

[Leanne Weich]

Originally posted by BiggerRedDog
Maybe he's more of a ladies' man than a man's man, Leanne. :)

Guess you're right. As a woman though, I must admit I don't find him at all aesthetically pleasing.

[Regina.Lampert]

Originally posted by Coldwater



Changed name, changed IP, can't you change your posting habits, it takes time to keep banning you.

:beer:

[WonderingInSC]

[i]Originally posted by ReedJ


LOL. Women are hardly smarter than men. You should thank us for the fact You have a house to live in and just about everything else....all on the backs of men. You're welcome. IMO

Aggie [/B]

Whoa. I am so glad I missed this conversation last night. I have bought myself three properties without a man helping at all. Some women are smarter than men and realize we don't need men to have a great life... men add happiness and love to many women's lives, not being the one who creates it.

As for Michelle, she was the breadwinner in that family. That is another MO for JY. She wanted to cut back on her work time, less income with the birth of the new baby, which would have caused more responsibility for JY to have to work harder and not be able to ride her coattails anymore. JMO

[WonderingInSC]

Originally posted by ALTER EG0

Can you show me where the Young's finances were ever disclosed, particularly who made what. tia

Just going by Michelle's job title and the fact that JY was just starting a new job in medical sales. The pay for medical sales (which I have done myself) is based salary plus commission on sales quarterly.
You don't get money until you have been there for a while. After I had I been in that business for over three years, I made a nice chunk of change, but at the beginning you only make from $50,000 - $60,000 base salary. That is the industry. How long was he out of work before he got that job? I don't know that but someone might....
As for Michelle wanting to cut back on her hours with the new baby, and make less money was in the media - check the link on CTV media link.

[stacybo]

Originally posted by Regina.Lampert


:beer:

You toast the banning of RPD but have no problems with the piggish postings of ReedJ aka JaysFan? That garners a big Kat :::shrugs::: from me. Although I am making an assumption about you having no problem with ReedJ, so forgive me if that was an incorrect assumption.
JMO.

[indie]

Originally posted by Coldwater



Changed name, changed IP, can't you change your posting habits, it takes time to keep banning you.



CW too bad you do not have the time to properly moderate this board. It is a sad commentary that CTV a place that once stood for educating the public about justice has sunk this low by banning a poster that has been champion for Michelle and her little baby boy.

And Regina, are you actually supporting this decision?

[Regina.Lampert]

Originally posted by indie




CW too bad you do not have the time to properly moderate this board. It is a sad commentary that CTV a place that once stood for educating the public about justice has sunk this low by banning a poster that has been champion for Michelle and her little baby boy.

And Regina, are you actually supporting this decision? Yes I am. Coldwater knows what she's doing with this particular poster and it has absolutely nothing to do with their view of the case.

[lilismom]

Originally posted by ALTER EG0

It's been my experience that the client does not even talk...the atty does.

There doesn't seem to be any issue with JY's 'public image' outside the WWW.

Ok, maybe I should have said his 'public message board image'. Better?

Some here have said that they've heard talk around town. Think its all good? Think its all about stolen funds and MF? I don't.

IMO,
Lilismom

[indie]

Originally posted by Regina.Lampert
Yes I am. Coldwater knows what she's doing with this particular poster and it has absolutely nothing to do with their view of the case.


Well I happen to think that the decision was unjust. He stood up against outrageous accusations about Meredith and Michelle's family.

Anyways carry on, Regina. Perhaps now that "the particular poster" is gone you can join in with the "affair" vs. relationship discussion, Meredith's 911 call and most of all how Jason's lack of cooperation means nothing. Oh and did you know Meredith sold a purse on EBay!



:seeya:

[WonderingInSC]

Originally posted by ALTER EG0

Thanks for all the info, but I didn't ask about your salary, I asked about the Young's salaries.

Where has it EVER been shown that Michelle was the 'bread winner' and made more money? Where besides this board, that is. tia.

You asked how I know about the salary. I was providing accurate info about the medical sales industry. I don't do that anymore and I didn't tell you how much I made when I was in that type of work.

Also, I was basing the salary on someone in their thirties, not in their twenties, so his base salary was much less than $50-60K. When someone starts in that job, it could be as low as $30K.

Michelle had been with PE for a while and she was making more. JMO, but JY was not with the company long enough to make good money on commission.

[WonderingInSC]

Originally posted by indie



Well I happen to think that the decision was unjust. He stood up against outrageous accusations about Meredith and Michelle's family.

Anyways carry on, Regina. Perhaps now that "the particular poster" is gone you can join in with the "affair" vs. relationship discussion, Meredith's 911 call and most of all how Jason's lack of cooperation means nothing. Oh and did you know Meredith sold a purse on EBay!

:seeya:

Great post....I hope Andy was not banned. Was he? I do support him as well.
Some provoke others and then turn them in - that is what I think happened to some... Repetition of the same MF slander, as well.

No offense Regina... you are a good person too. ; )

Justice for Michelle and her family :rose:

[karen]

Originally posted by indie



Well I happen to think that the decision was unjust. He stood up against outrageous accusations about Meredith and Michelle's family.

Anyways carry on, Regina. Perhaps now that "the particular poster" is gone you can join in with the "affair" vs. relationship discussion, Meredith's 911 call and most of all how Jason's lack of cooperation means nothing. Oh and did you know Meredith sold a purse on EBay!



:seeya:


ITA
and also Mimi, I mean Fireflys saying CY'S socks were dipped in blood by MF.....
:confused: