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VeeTruWill
07-19-2007, 06:05 PM
http://www.wjactv.com/news/13697366/detail.html

http://www.centredaily.com/news/local/story/155155.html


It is still unclear whether Offutt -- who had a 6-week-old boy -- had something to do with the fire at 4 a.m. Thursday that destroyed the Sykesville residence. The body of an infant was found in the remains of the building.

"Whether she was directly involved in this or if she was abducted, investigators are chasing that all down right now," said state police Trooper Bruce A. Morris, public information officer for Troop C. "It's almost like she's fallen off the face of the planet."


I sure hate jumping to conclusion but who else's baby could it be? I sure hope it isn't but..............

:rose: Praying they are found safe and soon

nutterbutter
07-19-2007, 06:12 PM
Originally posted by VeeTruWill
http://www.wjactv.com/news/13697366/detail.html

http://www.centredaily.com/news/local/story/155155.html




I sure hate jumping to conclusion but who else's baby could it be? I sure hope it isn't but..............

:rose: Praying they are found safe and soon
gosh I wonder if she was involved with a man or had recently broke off with baby daddy????bumping to get some attention for Joey.:rose: for the baby burned in fire,sad.

VeeTruWill
07-23-2007, 11:45 AM
http://www.wjactv.com/news/13721839/detail.html

This woman is still missing and under the circumstances, she needs to be found.

:rose: For the child lost in the fire whether hers or someone elses

jtazzy
07-24-2007, 03:48 PM
I can't believe that there is nothing mentioned about her in the media.

:rose:

VeeTruWill
07-25-2007, 12:03 PM
http://www.crimelibrary.com/news/original/0707/2401_Joey_Offutt.html

Wow, alot of information. Impressive work. I sure the police have talked to this guy.

:rose: For Joey and baby Alexis

onelovekir
07-28-2007, 07:05 PM
hi im the nephew of joey offutt and would like to clear up some things as well as spread some links around that would hopefully help my family & I feel better about all of this. Firstly, yes the baby in the fire was her 6 week old baby. Honestly jtazzy im surprised this whole thing isnt in the media either. I can understand the first few days that it would only be on local PA news (which it was), but now its been more than 2 weeks. VeeTruWill, most of the article in which Mr David Lohr wrote on courttv's crimelibrary.com, specifically the posts from my aunt joey that she made on her yahoo profile, are pretty much irrelevant to finding my aunt. My brother had written him because in the original story that Mr Lohr wrote he had released the names of Joey's 2 daughters which is very unecessary. Also im not sure exactly what he is trying to imply about adding in the posts from her yahoo profile. Is he trying to say that Alexis (Joey's bf & soon to be husband) is a prime suspect? Or is he trying to say that joey is the one who did all of this? Im not really sure.

When I spoke to my brother after he sent me the web address of a site he created to help find our aunt joey (www.joeyoffutt.com or www.joeyoffutt.org or www.findjoey.org), he told me why he did not place a link to Mr Lohr's story because, "Basically he gained access to a support group for single moms [SingleMomsOnaMission]. He fraudulently posed as a single mom, and then dug up all these posts that Joey had written to the group. He then used that in his story, when they have no bearing on the case. I think the guy's motives are to dig up dirt and be more of a "sensationalist" more than anything else. Also, the single moms group that he gained access to is going to be pursuing legal action against him for publishing those posts. So... that's why I decided not to link off to it."

As far as Alexis is concerned, he has been checked out by the police and as far as the family knows, he has passed a polygraph. No one that we know of had spoken to my aunt joey for almost a week prior to the fire, so we are all worried as to what is really going on and what is the truth. I wish the police were giving us more information but they really dont have much to give.

If anyone has any information that can help joey and our family please go to our website at http://www.joeyoffutt.com or http://www.joeyoffutt.org or http://www.findjoey.org and you will be able to contact us (the family) directly and we can keep your personal information anonymous & private.

You can also contact:
PA State Police: 814-371-4652
PA Crime Stoppers ($2,000 reward for information): 1-800-4PA-TIPS

thank you everyone for your support

n/t
07-28-2007, 07:24 PM
hi onelovekir,

Praying your aunt Joey is found soon. :rose:

For Joey's son who perished in the fire. :rose:


Can you tell us what the baby's name was? Also, is your aunt's soon to be husband still actively looking for your aunt? He must be devestated after losing his son in a fire.

I noticed Joey mentioned having 3 children. 2 by the current boyfriend. Is that corrcet? Where are her other 2 children?

:rose:

onelovekir
07-28-2007, 07:39 PM
well n/t since Mr David Lohr already published his name as well (my older brother could only get him to remove the daughters' names probably because they are still alive and well) and since he has past away i will give his nickname which was "Lex." Everyone is still looking for her but there aren't too many leads to follow that's why we are asking for everyone's help. As for me and my family we are still in shock and disbelief... you always see that kind of stuff on the news but you never believe it could happen to you until it actually does. My aunt Joey did have 3 children, 2 girls and one boy. Her daughters are safe here with our family. We are trying to keep them occupied as the oldest just had a bday and she is suspicious as to why her mother wasnt there to give her her "surprise." I dont think that at her age she really realizes what is going on, but we all hope and pray that our questions and prayers will be answered soon.

again thank you all for your support. im trying to get on other forums about this and help spread the website around. so if you all know of any others besides websleuths.com (which for some reason they are not accepting my registration right now), i would really like to know. thanks

n/t
07-28-2007, 08:33 PM
onelovekir

I hadn't read David Lohr's article until now. That's why I asked for the baby's name.

I'll be honest with you. After reading it, sounds like your aunt Joey was struggling with her relationship with Alexis. I pray he is not involved in anyway and I believe what you say about him.

However, I do have my suspicions. His myspace profile doesn't mention Joey nor his son Lex. His blog was updated on July 20th. Nowhere does he mention anything about losing Joey or his son. He doesn't sound like a grieving ex boyfriend or dad to me. :shrug:

Alexis Brolin, who Joey named as Lex's father, has a profile on MySpace.com, in which he describes himself as a 38-year-old single male. His last login date is listed as July 23, 2007, and his last blog post was made on July 20, 2007:

"Hello, my name is Alexis, and I just wanted to quickly introduce you to a new site in State College: www.statecollegepahub.info. Check out our Movie Guide, Annual Events and register to win in our Free Drawings for gift cards from local State College Businesses! Starting next month, we'll also have some movie passes to give out, and from time to time you'll see tickets for Bryce Jordan Center Events!

"We are still a work in progress. Most of the site will be completed in the next couple of weeks, so CHECK US OUT NOW, and come back a little later for a look around! Thank you for your time, Alexis."



I'll continue to pray your aunt Joey is found soon and for baby Lex who died so tragically. :rose:

onelovekir
07-29-2007, 12:07 AM
i wish that the police would give us more information on the case. just this past thursday PA police came to visit my grandma but didnt give any new news which is frustrating for all of us cuz it seems that after more than 2 weeks we still havent gotten any progress on the case.

n/t
07-29-2007, 10:58 PM
I'm sorry. I can't believe the police is not pursuing Alexis. Something just ain't right about this guy. They were going to get married and he states he's single and doesn't want children on his myspace. No remorse whatsoever about losing his little baby boy either. That raises a red flag for me.

Let me know if there's more I can do.

Continued prayers she is found soon. :rose:

onelovekir
07-30-2007, 02:59 AM
well n/t i believe they already had. honestly i probably shouldnt have put that post up like that raising my suspicions because im not trying to accuse anyone. i will have that post deleted because I think i posted that more out of anger and frustration that we dont have any answers rather than thinking about what i was writing because i dont want to assume anything. so i apologize to everyone for that, especially my family who is also listening... sorry fam.

n/t
07-30-2007, 12:34 PM
I don't think you were accusing anyone. We're allowed to speculate and post our opinions on this board.

Like I said, I read the link posted about his myspace and I found it very odd that he hadn't mentioned Joey nor his son.

If you feel uncomfortable discussing this case then I agree you should ask CW to remove your posts.

Continued prayers going out to you and your family and hope Joey is found safe soon. :rose:

jtazzy
07-30-2007, 12:47 PM
Originally posted by onelovekir
well n/t i believe they already had. honestly i probably shouldnt have put that post up like that raising my suspicions because im not trying to accuse anyone. i will have that post deleted because I think i posted that more out of anger and frustration that we dont have any answers rather than thinking about what i was writing because i dont want to assume anything. so i apologize to everyone for that, especially my family who is also listening... sorry fam.

I have read through all your post and not one time did I see that you were accusing anyone. Sometimes you have to have a place to let your anger out.

My prayers are for your Aunt that she is found and brought back home. I 'm ss for the loss of the baby.

VeeTruWill
07-30-2007, 04:25 PM
I truly hope you were not offended by me posting that link to Lohr story. Because I started this thread, I try to keep it updated on the latest information. Honestly, I started this thread with only the best intentions. The story he wrote did contain alot of information that was not yet known.

You will find that not one single post that I have written even points to any one person. I only stated that I hoped they talked to him. I truly hope that he had nothing to do with it. I really do.

Praying for you and your family:rose:

Lex, may you rest in peace sweet angel:rose:

onelovekir
07-30-2007, 11:54 PM
no dont worry Vee I dont think u were doing anything wrong at all. I had actually read that story a few days before i saw this forum thread, so dont worry about that. I have read pretty much all links related to this story and it was Mr Lohrs story that stood out so much because he was writing things that really only leads people into speculation & like my brother said "has no bearing on the case." The detectives aren't dummies or else they wouldnt be detectives so i know that Alexis has already been checked out. My main point of going on these forum sites is to ask for any kind of information that would be helpful to this case. It does not hurt my feelings if other people talk about it.

Squeekie
07-31-2007, 07:13 AM
hi onelovekir, thanks for coming to the site . We're happy to have you here and I'm praying for the safe return of Joey.

Here's just a few observations on my part. They may mean nothing at all..

Given the obvious, Alexis updated the myspace he's running, yesterday, with a post about some Apartment Guide. I use those ecomotions on my blogs as well, I see he has chosen "bouncy" as his mood for the day. Bizzaro..

Something else, I noticed.. When Joey posted to SMOM on July 10th, she considering adopting out her child (checking into it, but also rethinking) - however she learned no final decisions had to be made up until the baby was 6 weeks old (paraphrased).

It just strikes me as odd that her baby is now found dead in a house fire and on the day that he turned 6 weeks old.

Take no offense, I'm just thinking out loud here.

Wait.. before I go, has Alexis taken a lie-detector test as to the whereabouts of Joey? or even offered one up?

onelovekir
07-31-2007, 11:55 AM
none taken

yes he has taken a polygraph. thats actually a good observation.

Leanne Weich
07-31-2007, 09:45 PM
Originally posted by onelovekir
none taken

yes he has taken a polygraph. thats actually a good observation.

I wouldn't place much stock in a polygraph. I worked for a polygrapher and saw hundreds of criminals pass and innocent people fail. A good liar can pass and someone who is a nervous wreck but innocent can fail. Also, a Xanax will invariably get the guilty to pass, imo.

onelovekir
08-01-2007, 10:58 AM
i would definately agree with that 100%.

jtazzy
08-01-2007, 12:52 PM
Are there any updates to what LE is doing in this case?

Just wanted to check in...

boonboo
08-01-2007, 12:53 PM
I hope they find your Aunt soon & I'm sorry for your loss.

I have read through the posts and a few things I was wondering..

Where were the 2 girls on the night of the fire? Wouldn't they have been in the home with your Aunt? Has Lex been in contact w/ your family? Has he seen or attempted to see his daughter since this has happened?

I haven't seen any pictures/interviews of "Lex" anywhere in the news or on his myspace. Is he hiding?

onelovekir
08-01-2007, 02:41 PM
well boonboo... "Lex" is actually the nickname of her 6 week old son, so I think u mean Alexis. yeah i havent seen or heard anything from him either in a while but im not really in direct contact with him like my grandmother is, so i really dont hear any new news unless its from her or my mother. As far as the night of the fire, the youngest daughter was with her father Alexis for the week because i guess it was his week with her, and the oldest daughter (which is not Alexis's) was with us here so they were safe and they are both still safe with us here. As far as any updates..... well we just havent heard anything yet. at this point for me all i want to know is if she is alive and ok because if not i think we would all like to know that way we can move forward cuz right now we (especially my grandmother) are at a standstill with our ears open.

huskiki
08-01-2007, 04:07 PM
Originally posted by Squeekie
hi onelovekir, thanks for coming to the site . We're happy to have you here and I'm praying for the safe return of Joey.

Here's just a few observations on my part. They may mean nothing at all..

Given the obvious, Alexis updated the myspace he's running, yesterday, with a post about some Apartment Guide. I use those ecomotions on my blogs as well, I see he has chosen "bouncy" as his mood for the day. Bizzaro..

Something else, I noticed.. When Joey posted to SMOM on July 10th, she considering adopting out her child (checking into it, but also rethinking) - however she learned no final decisions had to be made up until the baby was 6 weeks old (paraphrased).

It just strikes me as odd that her baby is now found dead in a house fire and on the day that he turned 6 weeks old.

Take no offense, I'm just thinking out loud here.

Wait.. before I go, has Alexis taken a lie-detector test as to the whereabouts of Joey? or even offered one up?

I was just looking at Alexis' myspace (don't know for sure that it's for the same guy) and the last login was today 8/01/07 and his mood is cheerful.

Is there anyone who can confirm or deny that this is Joey's boyfriends myspace?

phillycat26
08-06-2007, 02:46 PM
Joey Offutt Missing Since Fire Destroyed Her Home
July 24, 2007

SYKESVILLE, Pa. (Crime Library) — Police are asking for the public's help in locating a woman who has been missing since a fire destroyed her home two weeks ago, killing an unidentified infant child.


Please, everyone read the crime library articule about Joey. I live in the state college area and i can't find anyone who is out looking for this girl! her so called boyfriend won't return my emails about setting up a website and/or setting up search parties.
I'd like to help find this woman
anyone with any ideas how i can do that since i live nearby and think it's a terrbile shame her family and abusive boyfriend arn't doing this, maybe my neighbors and i could..

Any idea would be helpful
phillycat26
:rose:

shortcake
08-06-2007, 02:49 PM
A little more info and a picture.

http://projectjason.org/dpforum/thread.php?id=1188

shortcake
08-06-2007, 02:51 PM
Link to Crime Library article

http://www.crimelibrary.com/news/original/0707/2401_Joey_Offutt.html

shortcake
08-06-2007, 02:52 PM
Originally posted by phillycat26
Joey Offutt Missing Since Fire Destroyed Her Home
July 24, 2007

SYKESVILLE, Pa. (Crime Library) — Police are asking for the public's help in locating a woman who has been missing since a fire destroyed her home two weeks ago, killing an unidentified infant child.


Please, everyone read the crime library articule about Joey. I live in the state college area and i can't find anyone who is out looking for this girl! her so called boyfriend won't return my emails about setting up a website and/or setting up search parties.
I'd like to help find this woman
anyone with any ideas how i can do that since i live nearby and think it's a terrbile shame her family and abusive boyfriend arn't doing this, maybe my neighbors and i could..

Any idea would be helpful
phillycat26
:rose:

Philly, is this a friend of yours? Is there any idea of whose baby would have been there??

Hoping for the best outcome possible. :rose:

Kip
08-06-2007, 02:54 PM
bump

Kip
08-06-2007, 02:57 PM
There's already a CTV thread about Joey:

CTV thread Joey Offutt missing (http://boards.courttv.com/showthread.php?threadid=304411)

shortcake
08-06-2007, 02:58 PM
There is a link in the crime library article to what is apparently Joey's Yahoo profile, which says it was last updated in March of this year. In it, she talks about being 25 weeks pregnant with her third child. What happened with that pregnancy, as I noticed she says it will be her third child, but the other articles say she has only 2 children?

shortcake
08-06-2007, 03:03 PM
Originally posted by Kip
There's already a CTV thread about Joey:

CTV thread Joey Offutt missing (http://boards.courttv.com/showthread.php?threadid=304411)

Thanks for the heads up, Kip. Just saw the thread and went with it!

phillycat26
08-06-2007, 03:08 PM
I don't know this girl, i just live in the area and would like to help- somehow- when you watch on tv the massive searches for missing women, why dosn't Joey Offutt have one??

Also i would assume the baby found in her burnt homr was hers and that Alexis Brolin fellow- -

If any searches would help. i can get a crew up there for some type of weekend search or something....

phillycat26
08-06-2007, 03:27 PM
OK, thanks everyone for the help! i copied this from another ctv thread! looks like we can go to joeyoffutt.com... hope this is true and this really is her nephew and not the abusive boyfriend...

hi im the nephew of joey offutt and would like to clear up some things as well as spread some links around that would hopefully help my family & I feel better about all of this. Firstly, yes the baby in the fire was her 6 week old baby. Honestly jtazzy im surprised this whole thing isnt in the media either. I can understand the first few days that it would only be on local PA news (which it was), but now its been more than 2 weeks. VeeTruWill, most of the article in which Mr David Lohr wrote on courttv's crimelibrary.com, specifically the posts from my aunt joey that she made on her yahoo profile, are pretty much irrelevant to finding my aunt. My brother had written him because in the original story that Mr Lohr wrote he had released the names of Joey's 2 daughters which is very unecessary. Also im not sure exactly what he is trying to imply about adding in the posts from her yahoo profile. Is he trying to say that Alexis (Joey's bf & soon to be husband) is a prime suspect? Or is he trying to say that joey is the one who did all of this? Im not really sure.

When I spoke to my brother after he sent me the web address of a site he created to help find our aunt joey (www.joeyoffutt.com or www.joeyoffutt.org or www.findjoey.org), he told me why he did not place a link to Mr Lohr's story because, "Basically he gained access to a support group for single moms [SingleMomsOnaMission]. He fraudulently posed as a single mom, and then dug up all these posts that Joey had written to the group. He then used that in his story, when they have no bearing on the case. I think the guy's motives are to dig up dirt and be more of a "sensationalist" more than anything else. Also, the single moms group that he gained access to is going to be pursuing legal action against him for publishing those posts. So... that's why I decided not to link off to it."

As far as Alexis is concerned, he has been checked out by the police and as far as the family knows, he has passed a polygraph. No one that we know of had spoken to my aunt joey for almost a week prior to the fire, so we are all worried as to what is really going on and what is the truth. I wish the police were giving us more information but they really dont have much to give.

If anyone has any information that can help joey and our family please go to our website at http://www.joeyoffutt.com or http://www.joeyoffutt.org or http://www.findjoey.org and you will be able to contact us (the family) directly and we can keep your personal information anonymous & private.

You can also contact:
PA State Police: 814-371-4652
PA Crime Stoppers ($2,000 reward for information): 1-800-4PA-TIPS

thank you everyone for your support

onelovekir
08-07-2007, 01:17 AM
yes phillycat i am her nephew and my family & i would greatly appreciate any help offered by anyone.

to "grande" or the moderators..... could u please remove the references to my cousins names please... thank you

ladyheartfixer
08-07-2007, 01:59 AM
onelovekir...
just wanted you to know that I live not too awful far from Sykesville and I have been disappointed how the story has been neglected by the local newspapers. Just wanted you to know that I'm thinking of your family and hope they find her soon.
ladyheartfixer

onelovekir
08-07-2007, 07:21 PM
thank you ladyheartfixer... yeah i wish they would actually do this story on national news so that maybe somewhere out there, there is somebody that knows something and has seen my aunt. thank you

jtazzy
08-15-2007, 02:30 PM
WOW this is scary!

Breazy
08-15-2007, 03:26 PM
Just came upon this thread and I am so saddened to hear about the death of 6 wk old baby and Joey going missing. My prayers are with this family and I hope they find answers soon.:rose:

onelovekir
08-16-2007, 03:08 PM
phillycat and grande... i posted those websites that my brother created a couple weeks ago. if u scroll up inside this thread u will see that it is there. my brother and i are working on getting more pictures up and maybe converting some flyers into pdf formats so that people like u who would like to help can print them out. thanks again for everyone's support.

onelovekir
08-16-2007, 03:19 PM
thanks breazy

onelovekir
08-16-2007, 03:20 PM
thanks a lot too grande... we really appreciate everyone's support right now.

onelovekir
08-22-2007, 03:19 PM
hi everyone, i was wondering if i could ask a favor from about 2 or 3 guys who live in or near the Sykesville, PA area that wouldn't mind helping my mom (joey offutt's oldest sister) & my grandma (joey offutt's mother) load some of my aunt joey's things into a trailer so that we can bring her salvageable things home. im not sure if my grandma can pay so if anybody wouldn't mind volunteering for a few hours maybe this weekend (depending everyone's schedule), please contact me at onelovekir@aol.com or my mom at imspealer@aol.com and just put your name & phone number so that my mom or grandma can contact you to set it all up. Please MEN ONLY due to heavy lifting ok. thanks so much.

wantohelp
09-17-2007, 06:14 PM
I have been following this case and am very concerned. I knew Joey when she lived in VA. I didn't know her well but she touched my life as well as the lives of many other people who are following this situation and trying to make sense of the limited information we have.

There are many, many people her in VA who are deeply worried and concerned about Joey and praying for her. Joey is a very very good person who loves her daughters so much.

I have many, many questions, but hesitate to speculate too much before hearing if there are any new developments. Does anyone know what the status is on the investigation into Joey's disappearance?

wantohelp

Leanne Weich
09-17-2007, 09:24 PM
Originally posted by wantohelp
I have been following this case and am very concerned. I knew Joey when she lived in VA. I didn't know her well but she touched my life as well as the lives of many other people who are following this situation and trying to make sense of the limited information we have.

There are many, many people her in VA who are deeply worried and concerned about Joey and praying for her. Joey is a very very good person who loves her daughters so much.

I have many, many questions, but hesitate to speculate too much before hearing if there are any new developments. Does anyone know what the status is on the investigation into Joey's disappearance?

wantohelp

I have been googling for any new info. on Joey for ages now, but nothing seems to be happening, unfortunately.

onelovekir
09-19-2007, 03:38 PM
yes, unfortunately there is no new evidence or news on the situation. its getting so frustrating on the family end of it. the only thing that i wish for is that we find my aunt, dead or alive, we just want to find her. i do hope and pray she is still safe. i also wish that the rest of my family members (especially if ur reading this then that is great) would stop fighting with grandma and trying to cause rifts within the family at a time like this. c'mon... put ur selfishness and past grudges out of the way for a moment (and u know who u are) and lets stick together as a family on this one. please... no more fighting, and lets sit down and talk like adults and love like family ok. thanks.

David_Lohr
10-05-2007, 10:17 AM
Originally posted by onelovekir

When I spoke to my brother after he sent me the web address of a site he created to help find our aunt joey (www.joeyoffutt.com or www.joeyoffutt.org or www.findjoey.org), he told me why he did not place a link to Mr Lohr's story because, "Basically he gained access to a support group for single moms [SingleMomsOnaMission]. He fraudulently[/*] posed as a single mom, and then dug up all these posts that Joey had written to the group. He then used that in his story, when they have no bearing on the case. I think the guy's motives are to dig up dirt and be more of a "sensationalist" more than anything else. Also, the single moms group that he gained access to is going to be pursuing legal action against him for publishing those posts. So... that's why I decided not to link off to it."[/*]

No one never "posed" as a single mom to get into the group.

The posts may or may not have relevance, that is yet to be seen.

The posts were in public domain. The site only went private after the story broke.

Leanne Weich
10-05-2007, 02:30 PM
Originally posted by David_Lohr


No one never "posed" as a single mom to get into the group.

The posts may or may not have relevance, that is yet to be seen.

The posts were in public domain. The site only went private after the story broke. [/*]

David, you did an amazing job on the story about Joey as you do with all your articles in the Crime Library. Unfortunately, family often do not like what they see written about their loved ones and it is easier to shoot the messenger than to admit the truth of their loved one's situation.

Keep up the excellent work.

David_Lohr
10-05-2007, 02:52 PM
Originally posted by Leanne Weich


David, you did an amazing job on the story about Joey as you do with all your articles in the Crime Library. Unfortunately, family often do not like what they see written about their loved ones and it is easier to shoot the messenger than to admit the truth of their loved one's situation.

Keep up the excellent work. [/*]

Thank you for your comments Leanne. If this ends the way I think it will they will see why I included that information.

Leanne Weich
10-05-2007, 04:25 PM
Originally posted by David_Lohr


Thank you for your comments Leanne. If this ends the way I think it will they will see why I included that information. [/*]

You're very welcome David. I did see the relevance of what you uncovered and, unfortunately, I think we're on the same page as to the eventual outcome.

onelovekir
10-06-2007, 03:47 PM
first of all... whether or not u "posed" as a single mom i dont know cuz im not on that sight and i dont know whether u have to sign up or not, but as for posting what she had written about herself and her family i think is not a good idea cuz then it leads to speculation when there was no evidence at all and there still isnt any atleast that we heard. but definately including the names of small children u know that was wrong or else u wouldnt have removed it after u had already wrote the story. so everyone knows... yeah at first we all thought it was Joey who maybe had did something on accident and then ran and then maybe hurt herself but now that it's been this long there is no way that my aunt Joey could do that without calling someone or contacting her children or leaving tracks behind... trust me, u would know what im talking about if u knew her personally.

as for u leanne i dont think u have any clue as to what the hell is going on cuz i dont think u have ever had anyone that u called family or loved missing or maybe murdered. before u start spouting off at the mouth maybe u should check urself.

Leanne Weich
10-06-2007, 06:21 PM
Originally posted by onelovekir
first of all... whether or not u "posed" as a single mom i dont know cuz im not on that sight and i dont know whether u have to sign up or not, but as for posting what she had written about herself and her family i think is not a good idea cuz then it leads to speculation when there was no evidence at all and there still isnt any atleast that we heard. but definately including the names of small children u know that was wrong or else u wouldnt have removed it after u had already wrote the story. so everyone knows... yeah at first we all thought it was Joey who maybe had did something on accident and then ran and then maybe hurt herself but now that it's been this long there is no way that my aunt Joey could do that without calling someone or contacting her children or leaving tracks behind... trust me, u would know what im talking about if u knew her personally.

as for u leanne i dont think u have any clue as to what the hell is going on cuz i dont think u have ever had anyone that u called family or loved missing or maybe murdered. before u start spouting off at the mouth maybe u should check urself. [/*]

If what is written on these boards upsets you, then this maybe isn't the place for you. Not all families can handle reading other people's views of things. Trying to discredit David on this forum is pathetic. Have you even bothered to read any of the many cases he's written about in the Crime Library. I doubt it or you'd know he doesn't write untruths. If you have a problem with information being disseminated on the internet, you should not be here discussing things like the fighting in your family.

You know nothing about me, my family or my knowledge of missing people and/or their families. This message board is for people's opinions and speculation and providing I'm not breaking the TOS, I will continue to say and write what I feel about any case I wish to.

Perhaps you should spend some time reading Naomi Arnette's forum and you'll see what posters from CTV managed to help her family accomplish. Alienating the very people who keep your loved one's case moving on this forum is, imho, very short sighted of you.

David_Lohr
10-06-2007, 07:20 PM
Originally posted by onelovekir
but definately including the names of small children u know that was wrong or else u wouldnt have removed it after u had already wrote the story. [/*]

I removed the names at the request of the family.

VeeTruWill
10-08-2007, 02:48 PM
I too was very impressed with the information you obtained, that is why I linked to it. I do not think that families should avoid these boards when it is in regards to thier friends and/or family members but I do believe they should make every attempt to remain impartial when other information is posted.

You see, I started this thread for Joey, but once I posted the link to Lohr's article I was criticized for it. Since then, I have pretty much avoided this thread which is a shame.

What a lot of family members do not realise is that for us, being on the outside, we can be maybe read more into the situation than they can. Everyone wants to believe the very best for thier family members and friends but that does not necessarily make it true.

I also happen to know that a lot of the posters here on this board post because they have been in the same situation, having a missing family member, friend, etc. I also know that a lot of law enforcement personnel that have worked these kinds of cases, been haunted by them, post here as well. It is a shame when those of us that are trying to help get attacked for the effort.

I truly hope she is found and that IF a crime was commited, that the guilty be punished to the full extent of the law.

:rose: For Baby Lex

Leanne Weich
10-08-2007, 03:58 PM
Originally posted by VeeTruWill
I too was very impressed with the information you obtained, that is why I linked to it. I do not think that families should avoid these boards when it is in regards to thier friends and/or family members but I do believe they should make every attempt to remain impartial when other information is posted.

You see, I started this thread for Joey, but once I posted the link to Lohr's article I was criticized for it. Since then, I have pretty much avoided this thread which is a shame.

What a lot of family members do not realise is that for us, being on the outside, we can be maybe read more into the situation than they can. Everyone wants to believe the very best for thier family members and friends but that does not necessarily make it true.

I also happen to know that a lot of the posters here on this board post because they have been in the same situation, having a missing family member, friend, etc. I also know that a lot of law enforcement personnel that have worked these kinds of cases, been haunted by them, post here as well. It is a shame when those of us that are trying to help get attacked for the effort.

I truly hope she is found and that IF a crime was commited, that the guilty be punished to the full extent of the law.

:rose: For Baby Lex [/*]

Great post Vee. If you read the Naomi Arnette thread, you'll see that her sister in law Angroy posted regularly until Naomi's remains were found. In fact, Naomi's husband, whose just been arrested for first degree murder and concealing a homicide, posted too. The posters on that board were phenomenal in their moral and financial support of Naomi's s-i-l and Naomi's 7 children. Posters here, generally, see a lot more than family do, imo.

VeeTruWill
10-08-2007, 05:06 PM
Originally posted by Leanne Weich

If you read the Naomi Arnette thread, you'll see that her sister in law Angroy posted regularly until Naomi's remains were found. In fact, Naomi's husband, whose just been arrested for first degree murder and concealing a homicide, posted too.

Yeah, I know Angory got angry with me on Naomi's thread too. LOL

justwatching
10-09-2007, 01:45 AM
Originally posted by Leanne Weich


You're very welcome David. I did see the relevance of what you uncovered and, unfortunately, I think we're on the same page as to the eventual outcome. [/*]

Why don't you clue everyone in on what you think happens next? There are a lot of people who would like to know....

Leanne Weich
10-09-2007, 05:10 AM
Originally posted by justwatching


Why don't you clue everyone in on what you think happens next? There are a lot of people who would like to know.... [/*]

I believe Joey is dead and that the */f is likely the one who killed her. I believe she was dead before the house was set on fire. JMOOC.

Cury-us Coyote
10-10-2007, 10:59 PM
http://www.amw.com/missing_persons/case.cfm?id=48408

onelovekir
10-12-2007, 04:21 AM
whoa whoa whoa..... everybody just slow ur roll... look, im not necessarily offended by what u [leanne] posted in here cuz it is supposed to be helpful. the only thing im saying is that u dont know the "truth." so before u make accusations or assumptions u should get facts straight. but i really cant blame people for thinking a certain way cuz the facts arent really laid out for y'all. i guess being family we know a little more than the public eye. so im not mad at anyone for posting what they've posted, and im not mad at David for posting what he posted other than the fact that i think it was a little too early to be posting all that personal stuff considering no one knew what the hell was going on yet. so im not "shooting" anyone and im definately not "discrediting" david either. in my original post i was quoting and the only thing i had to say is that it was definately wrong to post the names of small children and which he did remove them at my family's request so for that we thank him.

VeeTru im glad u started this forum for my aunt and our family appreciates it, i dont know who criticized u for it but i can assure u i dont. u r just relaying info for the public. i definately agree with u that most people who post here have been in a similar situation but without looking thru all of Leanne's posts, it just feels, "IMO", that he/she just scans these forums for his/her own personal reasons other than to truly help the people. im not saying that leanne hasnt helped anybody but with more than 1800 posts i think that maybe he/she could've been more useful than to "shoot" me & my family down just cuz i made a comment about David's (maybe his/her favorite writer?) article. honestly i liked David's article and it would be very informative if i wasnt a family member too cuz even to this day i KNOW it is foul play by a third party, but the truth is is that some of what is said in those posts are a little exaggerated by my aunt.

so u know leanne, everyone's first reaction is going to be to blame the */f including the police, and they're not dummies cuz they put him as the first suspect and they have checked him out thoroughly and im sure will still keep their eyes on him. but u have to understand that cuz we r family & we personally know him and he is tied into the family so we cant just be like u and accuse him of doing it cuz wat if he really isnt the one and now he's pissed off at all of the family and it just made things worse. so dont be so quick to judge, i know i learned my lesson. another honest point is that even tho it sounds sh!tty, im sure most all the family believes shes dead too and we have all faced that reality.

as for me im ok with reading the articles and comments about my aunt joey as long as they are not hurtful and not false, but maybe for my family no so im protecting them as a whole not just for myself, cuz thats what family does, dont u agree? but i agree Vee that outsiders looking in can sometimes see the bigger picture but in this case i can honestly say that there were other things going on with my aunt that only family and friends would know that does not need to be discussed by me or anybody else on these forums until all the facts are straight and everything is said and done.

but to wrap this up cuz its getting kinda long and its late i would just like to say thanks for everybody posting here cuz atleast we all know that people are listening. i would also like to wish a happy bday to my aunt joey which since its 3:17am here now i should actually say happy belated bday to her cuz her bday was yesterday the 11th. i do hope that this will come to an end soon so that we all can have closure. thanks justwatching, i liked ur comment, the other comment that u quoted does kinda leave u wondering doesnt it. thanks cury-us coyote, yeah my brother sent me that link also 2 days ago, i liked the article cuz it was a more realistic & facts only up-to-date version of whats going on. im glad that this is finally getting more media attention.

thanks again

Leanne Weich
10-12-2007, 07:25 AM
onelovekir, my last post on this thread. You have a pm.

onelovekir
10-12-2007, 10:37 PM
for what its worth leanne im sorry, and please read ur pm as well. thanks.

for everyone else i would like u to know that leanne is right, its not always easy reading the posts but it doesnt bother me as much as it does my other family members, and i definately did not want things getting out of hand here. i only wanted people to be fair in their articles and comments. please understand what im saying and where im coming from. put urself in my family's shoes and relate as to how frustrating this is, if u already dont understand. too many things are going on behind closed doors that "outsiders" cannot see, but i should also put myself into the outsiders' shoes as well.

today is 3 months since the fire and about 3 months and a week since anyone has heard from my aunt. thanks again to everyone who has anything to do with this thread and to the AP for putting the story out and to the countless others who have helped my cousins who are the daughters of my aunt. God bless!

Leanne Weich
10-13-2007, 03:46 AM
Originally posted by Chillin1
onelovekir..you should apologize to Leanne. Your attack on her was uncalled for. Shes here to 'help' you and you treated her like an ungrateful brat.

If you want posters to help you get the word out about your aunt I'd suggest you stop acting the way you are or else there wont be anyone left on this thread to care. [/*]

Thanks for the support Chillin. I think Onelovekir and I sorted out our problem via pms. More a misunderstanding of the written word than a problem as such, imo.

wantohelp
10-15-2007, 05:58 PM
Does anyone know if the autopsy results are back? I don't understand why the news articles make it seem unclear whether the baby boy was Joey's. They seemed to emphasize the baby was an unidentified infant.

I am now sorry that I even wondered if this was some type of accident! With so much time that has gone by it would be impossible for Joey to be hiding and honestly from what I have known of her or her to be responsible is impossible anyway. Joey would face up to it if there was an accident with the baby.

Prayers for Joey and Baby Lex.

Cury-us Coyote
10-20-2007, 01:39 PM
House of Missing Jefferson County Woman To Be Sold

The baby has never been identified, and Offutt has never been located.

Now, Offutt's family is taking steps to tear down her damaged home.

Offutt's mother is selling the house to the Holy Trinity Byzantine Catholic Church, located across the street.

The church will use the property as a parking lot.

http://www.wjactv.com/news/14354350/detail.html

onelovekir
10-20-2007, 05:59 PM
im not sure if they've released the autopsy reports yet, but we in the family know that its baby Lex, and yes u r right, this is no accident, joey definately would've contacted someone by now.

David_Lohr
10-20-2007, 09:40 PM
Originally posted by onelovekir
im not sure if they've released the autopsy reports yet, but we in the family know that its baby Lex, and yes u r right, this is no accident, joey definately would've contacted someone by now. [/*]

In your own personal opinion, what do you and or your family think might have happened? For instance, do you think this is random or???

forjoey
10-28-2007, 06:40 PM
I think the family spokesman for this forum has already given his opinion regarding "Who done it". As stated, they realize based on lack of communication from Joey, that something terrible has probably happened her as well, but don't have a clue as to who could have hurt Joey or her baby. Prepare for the worst and hope for the best is most likely the order of the day. I imagine that knowing rather than not may come as a welcomed relief. At least the stress of worry and concern would be removed from the situation. It's an unspeakable tragedy for all already.

forjoey
11-06-2007, 10:41 AM
Does anyone know if a connection between the two other previously mentioned missing Allegheny County women has been ruled out?

wantohelp
11-06-2007, 11:50 PM
Has there been any sort of fund set up to help the family with Joey's children who are with relatives? To my knowledge, there hasn't been anything in the local newspaper. I think there are a lot of people from her hometown who would like to help in some way.

triciar98
12-09-2007, 05:07 PM
Was just wondering if there's any news on Joey? I'm in the SC area, and although I don't watch the news often, I read the paper, and I haven't heard anything at all lately.

KittyMom
12-24-2007, 01:17 AM
I'm curious as to whether an autopsy on the baby revealed if he died before the fire or after and if before what the cause of death may have been.

Given the fact that there was a history of abuse in the relationship, I would suspect that LE are focused on the bf, whether he passed a poly or not. Did he pick his daughter up from Joey's home for the week long visit? Did he and Joey have an argument? Has bf tried to gain custody of the child he fathered?

When I read that the older son had assaulted the daughter, I was horrified. That is not normal behavior for a 12 yr old.

moo

Cury-us Coyote
12-27-2007, 04:09 AM
Joey Lynn Offutt's House To Be Torn Down Soon
http://www.wjactv.com/news/14926417/detail.html

Destini
12-29-2007, 11:44 AM
http://www.tribune-democrat.com/local/local_story_362233345.html

SOMERSET — State police are investigating whether skeletal remains found Wednesday are those of a Jefferson Township woman missing since her infant son was killed in a house fire six months ago.

Authorities believe the remains belong to a petite, brown-haired woman between 30 and 40 years old who died during the summer. Evidence discovered at the scene suggests she had spent time in Raleigh, N.C., and on Interstate 80.

Meanwhile, the Somerset County coroner said foul play might not be involved in the death.

The description of the body bears a resemblance to Joey Lynn Offutt, 33, of Sykesville, a Jefferson County town close to Interstate 80 and Route 219, which passes through Somerset. Offutt is 5-foot-3, weighs 110 pounds and has brown hair.

(more at link)

ladyheartfixer
01-06-2008, 01:40 PM
***bumping for Joey and her family***

was the body found near Somerset ever ID'd as Joey?

threesnugbugs
01-06-2008, 01:55 PM
Originally posted by ladyheartfixer
***bumping for Joey and her family***

was the body found near Somerset ever ID'd as Joey? [/*]



http://www.tribune-democrat.com/archivesearch/local_story_365205657.html

forjoey
01-23-2008, 09:13 PM
The authorities have identified the woman's body found in Somerset, PA and it was determined that she was not Joey Lynn Offutt.

forjoey
01-28-2008, 03:18 PM
I just read an article online that states the police now believe that Joey met will foul play and is deceased. I pray daily that she is found so the family can rest.

Leanne Weich
01-28-2008, 03:25 PM
Originally posted by forjoey
I just read an article online that states the police now believe that Joey met will foul play and is deceased. I pray daily that she is found so the family can rest. [/*]

Do you have a link and, if not, did they give any other info?

forjoey
01-29-2008, 03:36 PM
I found it on the Charley Project website. Here is the link. http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/o/offutt_joey.html

Leanne Weich
01-29-2008, 04:26 PM
Originally posted by forjoey
I found it on the Charley Project website. Here is the link. http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/o/offutt_joey.html [/*]

Thanks very much. I did hope they'd have expounded on their theories as to why they believe sh met with foul play.

forjoey
01-31-2008, 03:45 PM
The AMW website tells of Joey being trusting of strangers and that she had a habit of personally meeting people she would meet online. The fact that no one had seen or heard from her for several days before the fire broke out, that her baby was found in the home and the fire was determined to be arson, her purse was in the home, her vehicle was found 70 miles away, all lead them to suspect foul play. It's very sad and something that the family I think feared would one day happen.

forjoey
01-31-2008, 03:46 PM
I don't know if it has been done, and 70 miles is a long stretch, but whether the roadsides have been searched between where she was living and where her car was found.

BobbisAngel
02-01-2008, 02:32 AM
I wonder what happened to this young woman? Someone set fire to her home while the baby was in it...but why would the baby have been in the home alone and no one that got out call 911 as fast as possible? Did someone murder her and dispose of her body elsewhere? If she was murdered why not leave her in the house and make it look like the fire killed her? She had thought of adopting the baby boy out. If she decided to do that why would she have set a fire and allowed him to die in it instead of adopting him out if she had decided that three kids were just to much at that time? Nothing makes much sense.

I remember that the baby's dad had been abusive and their relationship had gone up and down a lot of the time. Even though he had their daughter for the week when the fire broke out it isn't impossible that he set the fire and did something to his girlfriend. There is usually someone that will babysit for an hour or two while you run an "errand." Ted Bundy passed a poly so that tells us if Ted Bundy can pass one with numerous murders under his belt then other people can pass one.

It is such a shame that Joey hasn't been found yet...one way or the other. She has to be somewhere. I can't think of anyone who would have even a slight motive to destroy both her and the baby but the boyfriend.

forjoey
02-02-2008, 06:40 PM
I would guess her absence caused the police to think she was the prime suspect. It certainly created that illusion. Valuable time and probably valuable evidence were lost because of it. The fact that her car was found 70 miles away, and that Joey used to live where it was found, probably is not a coincidence. That would only be known by someone who knew her for a while. How long prior to living in Sykesville she'd lived in State College isn't clear.

forjoey
02-04-2008, 10:40 AM
I don't know if the autopsy ever was able to prove whether the baby died before or because of the fire. Maybe something happened to Joey while trying to save her baby from someone. Then again, maybe she called the wrong someone to help her after something happened to the baby. Surely they've checked her phone records. It's doubtful anyone will ever know. And to me, that's the saddest part. It just leaves your mind open to infinite possibilities.

jtazzy
02-04-2008, 12:51 PM
I can't believe the way LE did this case. Joey has had no mention in the news. I don't know her but don't believe for one instant that she did this to her baby.

I think her ex killed her and the baby. I think he set it up to make it look like she did it.

:rose: For Joey.....just know your not forgotten.

forjoey
02-04-2008, 07:23 PM
In response to Leather & Lace: Makes no sense that someone would leave the baby in the house alone and then set the house on fire. Why not just leave the baby in the tub? What was the purpose of setting the house on fire just to get rid of a baby and then take the mother else where to kill and dispose of her?

Strange case to say the least. The baby would have posed no threat since he could not talk. JMO

When you think about it that way, it makes no sense to kill the baby at all. Which I guess is part of the mystery. Was this about the baby or about Joey? Did this whole thing start out as an accident that escalated? The mind just wanders. All questions, no answers.

forjoey
04-17-2008, 03:52 PM
I just read that the reward for information leading to Joey Lynn Offutt has been raised to $10,000. Let's all hope this will help to spark and renew interest or jogs some memories which will help lead to her whereabouts.

ladyheartfixer
04-17-2008, 06:13 PM
saw in the local paper about the reward...let's bring Joey home...her family misses her a lot:rose:

wantohelp
04-23-2008, 10:10 PM
I hope the reward money is an incentive for someone to come forward with information. I started reading these boards because of Joey and now have kept up with some of the other cases. It is frustrating that it seems like no one seems to have any theories or suspicions about what happened to Joey. I know it is hard for family members to read about their loved ones on these boards but with some other missing people it seems like there is so much interest and speculation and sometimes this helps to generate leads on the cases. But with Joey there doesn't seem to be that sort of speculation. Someone said that maybe she met someone online and was too trusting. I wonder if the police have anything to go on? Joey is in my prayers every day.

forjoey
04-24-2008, 08:18 PM
Perhaps her computer was lost in the fire leaving no way to find out who she was in contact with. I don't know much about computers. If she didn't own one, I think the local library would be where someone would go for free internet access. Copy centers have access you have to pay for. They would have records. I don't know if tracking somebody's use can be done without knowing which computer was used. Although, AMW was able to find out about some of her usage. Don't know how they managed that. For that matter, phone records would be helpful too. Living right on the corner of a what appears in the picture to be a main road, you would think somebody would have seen something. Perhaps they're afraid to speak for fear they will bring similar disaster upon themselves. I don't know what makes some cases so high profile and others not. Perhaps the police already know what happened and are busy building a case against someone. Perhaps they don't have a clue. It's sad and scary and I'm sure everyone watching continues to hope for the best and prepare for the worst.

forjoey
05-01-2008, 02:25 PM
I heard somewhere recently, there is a database for John and Jane Does. If Joey was taken out of state, perhaps she has been found and remains unidentified. I wonder if that database has been reviewed. Sounded like a great tool, though it would be tedious and timeconsuming.

Oehll
05-02-2008, 03:43 AM
Originally posted by forjoey
I heard somewhere recently, there is a database for John and Jane Does. If Joey was taken out of state, perhaps she has been found and remains unidentified. I wonder if that database has been reviewed. Sounded like a great tool, though it would be tedious and timeconsuming. [/*]
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It is called the doenetwork.org and it has a sister org. North American Missing Persons network.

forjoey
05-04-2008, 06:38 PM
Thank you for the name of the site. I viewed it but I didn't find any cases that seemed to resemble Joey's. I thought perhaps if she had met someone online as the family seems to think may have happened, that she could turn up anywhere. I don't know how far reaching the search for her has been.

forjoey
07-02-2008, 11:32 AM
Saturday marks a year since anyone has seen or heard from Joey. Please remember to keep her and her family in your prayers.

Squeekie
07-02-2008, 11:40 PM
Still thinking of Joey and her family. :rose:

FINDJOEY
08-05-2008, 01:10 PM
I am a personal friend of Joey's. I have created a myspace profile. Joey is still missing and it has been a little over 1 year now. Her family is hurting and miss her so much! If any of you have a myspace please add this profile.

http://www.myspace.com/helpfindjoey

Thank you for all the support for this family!

As you all have seen, there has been VERY little media coverage, and physical search for Joey. This family needs our help! Get her face out there!!

THANK YOU!!

ANGROY
08-12-2008, 12:34 AM
Originally posted by VeeTruWill
Originally posted by Leanne Weich



Yeah, I know Angory got angry with me on Naomi's thread too. LOL [/*]

Im still around it has just been a very sad time for us all.

If I have not said it here already Thank you and EVERYONE on courttv for all you have done....I may never have had TES come to Illinois and find Naomi if it had not been suggested to me.

Please pray for heaven sent 7..we will all need strength to get through this trial.

God Bless,
Angela Roy

ps...for verytruwill if I got angry at you I must of had a good reason...but now all is forgotten...take care of yourself and again Thanks....

forjoey
10-12-2008, 04:34 PM
I just read that AMW is in Sykesville filming Joey's story for broadcast. It's about time. There was no information about when the episode would be aired. Let's all of us who have been following pray something comes out of this for Joey, for baby Lex and for the rest of their family.

HungerMe
11-14-2008, 02:26 PM
For all those interested in this case, America's Most Wanted will feature Joey on this week's show that airs on Saturday, November 15 on FOX. It airs at 9 p.m. Eastern Time.

For other updates, be sure to monitor the Find Joey website that is run by the family: http://www.findjoey.org

I know a lot of people had a bunch of other questions. I will try to answer them in a separate post.

HungerMe
11-14-2008, 02:54 PM
First, my name is Jason and I'm Joey's nephew. I've been handling the bulk of the media on behalf of the family. I want to thank everyone for their thoughts and prayers. The last year and a half has been incredibly difficult on our entire family, as I'm sure you can imagine. We just want to know what happened to Joey. If she is no longer with us, we want to have closure. Not knowing is the worst.

My brother, "onelovekir" visited these boards early on and tried to answer some questions you all had. I see he has not been on in a while, and people have posted various questions. So I will try to answer them as best as I can.

"forjoey" asked about Joey's computer and phone records. The state police seized Joey's computer. They have not revealed to us whether anything on it was salvagable or if there was anything of use on it. They have declined to return the computer to the family. With regard to phone records, the state police have her phone records (she only hand a land line -- no cell phone) and to our knowledge, nothing of significance has been discovered.

"forjoey" also comments on the location of Joey's house. Sykesville is an extremely small, rural town. While her house was located on a corner, I would not describe this as a "main" road -- it was a residential area. Also, the fire occurred in the early morning when it was still dark. Of course we cannot rule out the fact that one of her neighbors may have seen something and have just not come forward for whatever reason.

"forjoey" and "leather&lace" question why leave the baby in the house and not leave joey in the house as well. We wonder the same thing. It is our current belief that perhaps whoever did this wanted it to make it seem like Joey was the one who did this. That means the person had to have known Joey had previously lived in State College. If the person kills Joey and lets her body burn in the house, then it's murder. But if Joey is missing but her baby's remains are found in the burned down house then it appears it's a post-partum mother on the run.

When this first happened, I personally thought that perhaps an accident happened with the baby (Joey would NEVER intentionally harm any of her children) and perhaps Joey panicked and for some bizarre reason set the house on fire and then ran. However, knowing Joey as we do, we knew that even if this bizarre thing happened, then Joey would have called or reached out to the family for help. She would NEVER abandon her other two children. She was a very loving mother and her whole world was her children.

Also, when we saw photos of how her car was parked when it was found by police, we knew immediately Joey did not drive that car. The car was either dumped in a crazy coincidence at a place where she used to live, or the car was "staged" to make it seem like Joey had run back to where she used to live. We don't believe Joey was in that car at any time after the fire.

We believe the fire was set to destroy evidence in the house.

"forjoey" asks about the autopsy. An autopsy on the baby was performed. The baby was positively identified as being Joey's six-week-old son. However, the cause and manner of death was ruled as inconclusive. We do not know if the baby was alive before the fire. We do not know if the baby died as a result of the fire or due to some other cause.

"forjoey" also opines about the police's initial theory based on Joey's absence. We agree with this statement. We believe that potential evidence was forever lost. We believe that this investigation should have gone down two parallel tracks -- one with the theory that Joey was a fugitive -- and one with the theory that Joey was a victim. We also believe, despite their best intentions, that the investigators should have reached out to other agencies for additional assistance. I hesitate to cast any blame on the police -- they've done the best they can given what they have. But perhaps they could have gotten outside help which would have produced more clues and more leads. But honestly, we do not know the full extent of their investigation because they will not tell us everything. We understand the need to protect their investigation, but we also think that if we were able to know what they know, then perhaps we could be more helpful to the investigation. For example, an outsider viewing Joey's car the way it was when it was found would probably find nothing out of the ordinary. But when family members saw it, we immediately knew Joey was not the driver of the car. It also has been frustrating that for certain things we do not know one way or another if the police have anything because they won't tell us. For example, with the computer -- they won't tell us what they have or don't have -- or if they have anything at all. They won't tell us what forensic evidence -- if anything at all -- was perhaps found in the car.

The family has been, for the most part, relatively quiet with regard to the police and their investigation. We have been respectful -- they have a job to do -- and we both share the same goal -- to find Joey. But after 16 months to come up with nothing and for us to still be in the dark on a large part of the investigation... our frustration is starting to show itself.

I think I covered most of the questions I saw that had not been previously answered. I again thank everyone for their interest in this case and for your support. Please continue your thoughts and prayers for Joey and her children.

kaylynn
11-15-2008, 10:21 PM
This case is being featured right now on Americas Most Wanted.

:rose:Praying for Joey.

i4doors
11-16-2008, 09:30 AM
i watched joey's story on amw last night, so sad. prayers for joey to be found...:rose: :rose:

forjoey
11-19-2008, 08:33 PM
Thank you for taking the time to answer questions, though they were put out there more to maybe help, give thought, rather than request a response. I have read though that it was determined that baby Alexis died prior to the fire. That's pretty significant. It's also significant that she hasn't been seen since the 5th of July even though the fire didn't break out until the 12th. I think that's something that needs to be made clear and emphasized more than it is. A week is a long time. However July 5th, people might remember because it was right after the 4th. I agree, whoever knows where Joey is, must be someone who knows her, knows she used to live in State College and routinely parks backwards. That would be something someone would do out of habit I think. I agree with you that it might be profitable to the investigation for your family to be able to review at least part of the information the police have for just such reasons as you knowing who Joey is and what her habits are. However I suppose they have their reasons for doing things the way they do. They are the ones with the experience and expertise. My heart goes out to your family and I hope this ends soon for you.

HungerMe
11-21-2008, 09:45 PM
ForJoey, the family was only notified the night before the AMW show aired that the police in fact did know that the baby had died prior to the fire. The investigator apologized for not being able to tell us sooner. They still will not tell us the manner or cause of death -- or if they even know. They still maintain that part of the autopsy was inconclusive.

Also, we only found out -- by accident -- just two hours before the AMW show aired -- about the partially opened package of meat that was left out. To me, that proves that Joey was a victim in this. She was probably about to make dinner or something -- and got interrupted. They did tests on the age of the maggots in the meat and determined that likely the meat had been out since around July 5.

Why the police never told us this, we're not sure. But they told AMW. And I found it by accident while doing a Google search. Apparently (no one told us) Joey was featured on the CNN Headline News show "Issues with Jane Velez" and they had a guest on the show from the AMW show who said the thing about the meat. I found the written transcript of the show literally two hours before the AMW show was to air while doing a Google search.

It would have been nice had the police told us at least as much as they had revealed to AMW prior to the show airing.

n/t
11-22-2008, 09:25 AM
Where's the exboyfriend and baby's daddy? Was he questioned yet? Did they rule him out?

I had to go back and reread some of the previous posts. I'm glad it was featured on AMW.

HungerMe, hope you get some answers soon. Like you, I believe she was a victim :rose:

HungerMe
11-22-2008, 11:49 AM
He has been questioned multiple times, including several polygraph tests. He has cooperated fully with the police, and without a lawyer. He maintains he had nothing to do with Joey missing or the death of his son.

forjoey
11-22-2008, 02:28 PM
Does anyone have information regarding the two other women who went missing about the same time as Joey from the surrounding area? Has anyone considered a connection and/or have there been any more incidents? Christina Lynn Peters, of Nanty Glo and Michelle Benjamin of St. Mary's, missing since June and August respectively I believe, which would put Joey in the middle.

ladyheartfixer
11-22-2008, 06:49 PM
http://www.nampn.org/cases/benjamin_michelle.html

in this area it is common practise to head to Buffalo to buy drugs. The cops routinely do drug stops on cars after they come across the NY/PA border...still no word of her from what I can find out.

forjoey
04-06-2009, 09:27 PM
Sorry not to reply for so long. It sounds as though everyone is certain drugs don't play a part in Joey's disappearance. There's nothing to suggest it, there's no one who considers it the slightest possibility. This seems to be a naive woman who met up with the wrong person. I don't think Joey's family holds any hope she's alive. I hope Michelle Benjamin is alive and well and in Buffalo somewhere. Thanks for the info.

ladyheartfixer
04-07-2009, 01:20 PM
Sorry not to reply for so long. It sounds as though everyone is certain drugs don't play a part in Joey's disappearance. There's nothing to suggest it, there's no one who considers it the slightest possibility. This seems to be a naive woman who met up with the wrong person. I don't think Joey's family holds any hope she's alive. I hope Michelle Benjamin is alive and well and in Buffalo somewhere. Thanks for the info.


Interesting that you should answer now...keep your eyes open cos the MB may just be busting open at any time....