Amanda Jones, 26, Pevely Mo, Missing 8/15/05, 9 Months Pregnant

[2lakes]

Amanda Jones was last seen after meeting her boyfriend. She never returned to her parents to pick up her 4 year old daughter. Her car was found abandoned.

http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/stories.nsf/stlouiscitycounty/story/18C53B66415B8F708625705F0015F5FA?OpenDocument

[2lakes]

Link to a news station in St. Louis, MO

http://www.ksdk.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=83374


Her parents were also on MSNBC a short time ago.

[Pepper]

Originally posted by 2lakes
Link to a news station in St. Louis, MO

http://www.ksdk.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=83374


Her parents were also on MSNBC a short time ago.

from the article:
The man Jones met in the parking lot told investigators they talked for about an hour. He says when he left, Jones was in her car talking on her cell phone.

Well, her phone records should be easy enough to check... not that it proves anything one way or the other if she did indeed have phone calls on her cell around that time, but it's someplace to start.

Scary. Again. :(

[marabeth]

:rose: I really have a sinking heart when I hear about this one.

[2lakes]

Seems it is becoming a trend to pregnant women. :rose:

:( Oh, no. Not another...

:rose: :rose:

[ErrinSpelling]

Originally posted by Pepper


from the article:


Well, her phone records should be easy enough to check... not that it proves anything one way or the other if she did indeed have phone calls on her cell around that time, but it's someplace to start.

Scary. Again. :(
"The man Jones met" was the father of her baby.On Greta, the lieutennant didn't want to say, who the man was,when it had been on several shows earlier.
On Rita Cosby,the family was on & the poor sister was crying hysterically.She said this guy didn't want to have anything to do, w/ Amanda or the baby,until Sunday,when he called to meet her.
:rose:

[ErrinSpelling]

On Dan Abrams: Father of baby described a red car, with a couple,who went to his home & told him, to call Amanda.Then he calls Amanda & asks to meet her at Civic Center.
No one knows, who this couple is...(it sounds like a made-up couple to me.)

Mrs. Probst (mother) said Amanda is due between 8/22 & 8/27.

[2lakes]

http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/stories.nsf/stlouiscitycounty/story/A4D6BCB06B34EEFD86257060001426DD?OpenDocument

[2lakes]

Originally posted by ErrinSpelling
On Dan Abrams: Father of baby described a red car, with a couple,who went to his home & told him, to call Amanda.Then he calls Amanda & asks to meet her at Civic Center.
No one knows, who this couple is...(it sounds like a made-up couple to me.)

Mrs. Probst (mother) said Amanda is due between 8/22 & 8/27.

That's very interesting. You are right, it does sound very made-up or OR it could be another baby abduction story???? She does work in the public at a bank. Maybe a couple wanted a baby an knew that she was expecting soon. That is just a possible theory though. Why would the boyfriend call her on behalf of the people if he didn't know them?

Lot's of questions in this case. Sounds like she is due any day now.

"The man Jones met" was the father of her baby.On Greta, the lieutennant didn't want to say, who the man was,when it had been on several shows earlier.
On Rita Cosby,the family was on & the poor sister was crying hysterically.She said this guy didn't want to have anything to do, w/ Amanda or the baby,until Sunday,when he called to meet her.


THAT DOESN'T SOUND GOOD AT ALL. But what I don't get is how he and the other men that have done this think they can vanish the mother of their child and no one is going to notice and investigate. Her parents were babysitting her 4 yr old and they knew she was going to meet him. :shrug:

[live4love]

My heart breaks over and over !! Praying Amanda is OK ! Please, please, please !

:rose: :rose: :rose:

L4L......tears........

Originally posted by 2lakes


That's very interesting. You are right, it does sound very made-up or OR it could be another baby abduction story???? She does work in the public at a bank. Maybe a couple wanted a baby an knew that she was expecting soon. That is just a possible theory though. Why would the boyfriend call her on behalf of the people if he didn't know them?

Lot's of questions in this case. Sounds like she is due any day now.

"The man Jones met" was the father of her baby.On Greta, the lieutennant didn't want to say, who the man was,when it had been on several shows earlier.
On Rita Cosby,the family was on & the poor sister was crying hysterically.She said this guy didn't want to have anything to do, w/ Amanda or the baby,until Sunday,when he called to meet her.


THAT DOESN'T SOUND GOOD AT ALL. But what I don't get is how he and the other men that have done this think they can vanish the mother of their child and no one is going to notice and investigate. Her parents were babysitting her 4 yr old and they knew she was going to meet him. :shrug:

Fox is saying Missouri police will give an update soon. It isn't anything like breaking news from what I am hearing.

I am just sick after watching her parents last night and then reading about her sister.

Immediately, I was thinking maybe "DADDY" made arrangements to market a baby. GYAWD, these people have me really thinking out of the box and just plain evil these days. :cuss:

I just can't stand the thought of a man BEING WILLING TO KILL HIS OWN CHILD just so he does not have to support him/her. I PRAY THIS IS NOT THE CASE HERE.

But I also fear Amanda is not going to be found safe, but will continue to pray for a miracle until we hear otherwise.

I still think that Cindy, the pregnant woman from Georgia was no accident either. I honestly feel I am slowly losing all faith in humanity one case at a time. :(

[HeronInTheSnow]

:mad:

[jfehl]

Originally posted by ErrinSpelling
On Dan Abrams: Father of baby described a red car, with a couple,who went to his home & told him, to call Amanda.Then he calls Amanda & asks to meet her at Civic Center.
No one knows, who this couple is...(it sounds like a made-up couple to me.)

Mrs. Probst (mother) said Amanda is due between 8/22 & 8/27.


This whole scenario makes me sick to my stomach. Just reading it makes me think this guy is guilty as sin. I know I shouldn't jump to conclusions, but......what's wrong with a society that sees offing your pregnant girlfriend/wife as a way of getting out of debt/responsibility. It is indeed scary. :shrug:

[oldshirley]

I haven't kept up with this case so I don't know the details, but I just saw a blurb on the building tv here at work that said they found a body but didn't think it was hers????
Anybody else hear that?
It was on Fox News (I believe--that's what channel they usually have it on). Was in a hurry and couldn't stop to hear the whole story.

[jfehl]

Originally posted by jfehl



This whole scenario makes me sick to my stomach. Just reading it makes me think this guy is guilty as sin. I know I shouldn't jump to conclusions, but......what's wrong with a society that sees offing your pregnant girlfriend/wife as a way of getting out of debt/responsibility. It is indeed scary. :shrug:

I just read back over my own post and cringed. Our "society" certainly does not approve of this. What's wrong with these CREEPS???

:confused:

[2lakes]

Story on Fox news website

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,166015,00.html


According to his lawyer, "Westfall doesn't know if he is the father of the baby". It certainly didn't stop him to luring her to the civic center :no:

[dalma3604]

Originally posted by 2lakes
Story on Fox news website

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,166015,00.html


According to his lawyer, "Westfall doesn't know if he is the father of the baby". It certainly didn't stop him to luring her to the civic center :no:

Of course, he may not be the father. The jerk! And according to his lawyer? He's lawyered up already?

[2lakes]

Here's just another possible theory. I'm sure her ex-husband (father of her 4 yr. old) is being questioned but let's just say what if the ex-husband is bitter over her getting pregnant by another man & puts the mystery couple up to contacting the alledged father of the baby to meet her. Maybe the guy really is innocent and someone else is responsible??? Maybe the person responsible knew that the boyfriend would be the one blamed?

It's just a theory and maybe the ex is no way involved and very upset that she is missing.

I'm also exploring the possible theory of a baby snatching like what happened last year near Kansas City. IF the story the father of the baby is telling is true, that a couple in a red car contacted him, it would of had to have been someone that knew her and knew that he was the father of the baby. I just pray and hope that IF she was taken for her baby that they knew she was very near to going in labor and she is being held somewhere until she has the baby and then let go.

I know these are wild theories but really, does anything surprise you anymore after some of the real cases we have seen in the news!

[Babes]

why would he contact amanda for a couple he doesnt even know? If he is really concern about amanda and when a couple asking him about her then he should be more cautious and get plate number of the "red car" and tell amanda on the phone about it and not even letting amanda go to the area so obviously he doesnt make any sense at all...


Is this westfall guy a married man? does he have another woman? What does he do for a living?

[Babes]

Here is amanda jone's picture

http://www.ksdk.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=83374

[2lakes]

Originally posted by Pepper


from the article:


Well, her phone records should be easy enough to check... not that it proves anything one way or the other if she did indeed have phone calls on her cell around that time, but it's someplace to start.

Scary. Again. :(

Just read in the news link above this post that authorities are checking her phone records.

I also heard on the news that she was last seen on the Walgreens camera just 30 minutes before she went missing.

[RebelAngel]

:rose: :rose: :rose:

[ErrinSpelling]

Originally posted by 2lakes


That's very interesting. You are right, it does sound very made-up or OR it could be another baby abduction story???? She does work in the public at a bank. Maybe a couple wanted a baby an knew that she was expecting soon. That is just a possible theory though. Why would the boyfriend call her on behalf of the people if he didn't know them?

Lot's of questions in this case. Sounds like she is due any day now.

"The man Jones met" was the father of her baby.On Greta, the lieutennant didn't want to say, who the man was,when it had been on several shows earlier.
On Rita Cosby,the family was on & the poor sister was crying hysterically.She said this guy didn't want to have anything to do, w/ Amanda or the baby,until Sunday,when he called to meet her.


THAT DOESN'T SOUND GOOD AT ALL. But what I don't get is how he and the other men that have done this think they can vanish the mother of their child and no one is going to notice and investigate. Her parents were babysitting her 4 yr old and they knew she was going to meet him. :shrug:
That's exactly what I don't get...They think they know more & are smarter than everyone else..but they ARE going to get caught!

I think this red car thing was the best story, he could come up with & now he has a lawyer.

[Babes]

Jones told her parents, Hubert and Bertha Propst of Festus, that she met Westfall at a Christmas party at the Civic Center last year.

"It was just a one-night stand thing," Bertha Propst said. "A mistake."

According to her mother, Jones didn't have any contact with Westfall during her pregnancy. But her mother said Jones had received a phone call from Westfall before she left for church Sunday morning. Jones told her mother that Westfall wanted to get together for lunch.

Jones said she wanted to talk to Westfall to find out whether he wanted to be part of his son's life.

"She wanted to know if he had changed his mind about the baby so she would know what name to give her son when he was born," either Westfall's or her own, Bertha Propst said.



http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/stories.nsf/stlouiscitycounty/story/0C98F6DCEA432CBF8625706100117112?OpenDocument

[Babes]

Is this the same bryan westfall?

http://www.jeffco.edu/vt/bus/bwestfal/home_blw.htm

[Babes]

Or is he a State Board of Directors & County Presidents for Missouri Associations?

http://mocattle.org/county_association.htm


Jefferson

Contact: Bryan Westfall

Hillsboro, MO

636-944-**** ( phone number in the link )

[Babes]

Originally posted by Babes
Is this the same bryan westfall?

http://www.jeffco.edu/vt/bus/bwestfal/home_blw.htm


FYI

Jefferson college is in hillsboro too

Jefferson College, 1000 Viking Drive, Hillsboro MO, 63050 | 636-797-3000


IMO this is the guy

Originally posted by Babes



FYI

Jefferson college is in hillsboro too

Jefferson College, 1000 Viking Drive, Hillsboro MO, 63050 | 636-797-3000


IMO this is the guy


EEEWWWW!!!!!!!!

This is SOOOO creepy!:eek:

[2lakes]

Originally posted by Babes
Or is he a State Board of Directors & County Presidents for Missouri Associations?

http://mocattle.org/county_association.htm


Jefferson

Contact: Bryan Westfall

Hillsboro, MO

636-944-**** ( phone number in the link )

My bet would be it's the same guy.

[2lakes]

Originally posted by Babes
Is this the same bryan westfall?

http://www.jeffco.edu/vt/bus/bwestfal/home_blw.htm

It says page can't be found when I try. What did the link say?

[2lakes]

She had chosen Hayden Lucas as the name for her baby boy. Her due date is in 4 days :rose: Her church were she regularly attends every week held a prayer vigil for her last night.

http://www.ksdk.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=83374

http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/stories.nsf/stlouiscitycounty/story/0C98F6DCEA432CBF8625706100117112?OpenDocument


Also profiled on America's Most Wanted website now.
http://www.amw.com/missing_persons/case.cfm?id=34131

[2lakes]

Here's some interesting info. from the article,
http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/stories.nsf/stlouiscitycounty/story/0C98F6DCEA432CBF8625706100117112?OpenDocument


Jones' family says she takes medication for Graves' disease, a thyroid disorder that, if left untreated, could lead to serious complications.

***
According to her mother, Jones didn't have any contact with Westfall during her pregnancy. But her mother said Jones had received a phone call from Westfall before she left for church Sunday morning. Jones told her mother that Westfall wanted to get together for lunch.

Jones said she wanted to talk to Westfall to find out whether he wanted to be part of his son's life.

"She wanted to know if he had changed his mind about the baby so she would know what name to give her son when he was born," either Westfall's or her own, Bertha Propst said.

***
Hubert Propst said his daughter might have been abducted by someone who was waiting for her to give birth so they could sell her baby.

"That's one thing that's going through my mind," Hubert Propst said. "The other thing I don't even want to talk about because it's too gruesome."

***
Bertha Propst said her granddaughter had told her, "Mommy's lost, but the police will find her."

[lorjac]

Another young life changed forever by someone being selfish and evil......:rose:

[2lakes]

Originally posted by Babes
Or is he a State Board of Directors & County Presidents for Missouri Associations?

http://mocattle.org/county_association.htm


Jefferson

Contact: Bryan Westfall

Hillsboro, MO

636-944-**** ( phone number in the link )


Did a reverse lookup for the phone number thinking that it would be a business listing and it pulled up

Westfall, B

DITTMER, MO 63023
636-944-****



Also looked up Amanda's name & pulled up her address & phone

Jones, Amanda
**** ****** Ct
PEVELY, MO 63070
636-475-****

[2lakes]

Picture of bank that Amanda works at as a loan assistant

http://www.eaglebankandtrust.com/site/bank_festus.html

Originally posted by 2lakes
Picture of bank that Amanda works at as a loan assistant

http://www.eaglebankandtrust.com/site/bank_festus.html

Well, what are you thinking 2lakes?

:(

[2lakes]

Originally posted by Eyecandyrises


Well, what are you thinking 2lakes?

:(

I have a really bad feeling about this case. I used to work in a bank as a personal banker and it is a very public position. It is not uncommon for customers to know a lot about you especially in a small town. I really hope she was not targeted for someone to snatch her baby as happened in KC last year.

I don't think this was a random case of someone seeing her in the car in the middle of the day and deciding to abduct her. Someone went to that place to cause her harm.

[2lakes]

Here's a link and photo to the Hillsboro Civic Center, the last place she was known to be seen.

http://www.jeffcountyfair.com/home.htm

try

www archive org/

you may be able to view the site.


Originally posted by 2lakes


It says page can't be found when I try. What did the link say?

[Babes]

Originally posted by 2lakes


I have a really bad feeling about this case. I used to work in a bank as a personal banker and it is a very public position. It is not uncommon for customers to know a lot about you especially in a small town. I really hope she was not targeted for someone to snatch her baby as happened in KC last year.

I don't think this was a random case of someone seeing her in the car in the middle of the day and deciding to abduct her. Someone went to that place to cause her harm.


just very suspicious that she vanished the day they "get together" but they really dont see each other throughout the pregnancy. Seems like someone doesnt want to pay child support

[emmeblu]

Strange to me that on the day she visits her 'boyfriend', she vanishes. Looks like another expectant father had other plans for the mother and his unborn child.

2lakes mention that maybe someone wanted her for her unborn child. Anything is possible but my bets are on the dad.

So sad. What has happened that pregnant women have become a target for b/f's and husbands. Do these guys really think they can get away with these horrible crimes?

:rose: For Amanda's family

[Babes]

Originally posted by emmeblu
Strange to me that on the day she visits her 'boyfriend', she vanishes. Looks like another expectant father had other plans for the mother and his unborn child.



exactly my point.



I think they just met at the civic center and probably they went somewhere. Bryan was probably waiting for her outside inside the car when she arrived and brought her someplace to kill her... he took the keys and left amanda's car open ....

If someone will force amanda to get her out in her car then she might not have a chance to bring her purse or cellphone or other items anymore.... but those items arent there and according to LE there is no evidence to support foul play so meaning car is clean...

I also felt that Bryan has other woman or possibly even married.


All MOO

[emmeblu]

Originally posted by Babes


exactly my point.



I think they just met at the civic center and probably they went somewhere. Bryan was probably waiting for her outside inside the car when she arrived and brought her someplace to kill her... he took the keys and left amanda's car open ....

If someone will force amanda to get her out in her car then she might not have a chance to bring her purse or cellphone or other items anymore.... but those items arent there and according to LE there is no evidence to support foul play so meaning car is clean...

I also felt that Bryan has other woman or possibly even married.


All MOO

If Amanda had been abducted, there would be some sign of struggle. IF (big if), her b/f did not take her/kill her, then someone she knew lured her out of the car.
Possible that b/f has wife and was desperate for wife not to find out about getting someone else pregnant.
So sad.

[Babes]

Originally posted by emmeblu


If Amanda had been abducted, there would be some sign of struggle. IF (big if), her b/f did not take her/kill her, then someone she knew lured her out of the car.
Possible that b/f has wife and was desperate for wife not to find out about getting someone else pregnant.
So sad.


But if he got a wife the question is why would they meet at the civic center where people could probably recognize him specially if he works there. They could meet somewhere else also but if he kills her and wanted to establish a great alibi then they met on the right location.

And yes you are right there will be struggling and possibly amanda could be shouting too not unless there is a pistol on her face and she's thinking of the safety of her unborn child as well.


She attended a christmas party and met westfall before, i wonder who is the people that she knows in that party and she attended it.

It is also possible also that she was kidnapped for her baby but the question is whoever kidnapped her even follow her all the way down to jefferson county? ... that kidnapper knew that she's pregnant and about to give birth coz a lot of big women nowadays look like pregnant also so they couldn't distinguish the big women from a pregnant women. I wonder how far is jefferson county or hillsboro to be exact from amanda's house.

[Babes]

News Update:

Jefferson County Sheriff Oliver "Glenn" Boyer said investigators had received more than 100 tips about Amanda Jones, who is nine months pregnant and hasn't been seen since Sunday. One tip came from Wisconsin, where a man claimed to have seen Jones sitting in the car behind him at a traffic light.

Police have not recovered Jones' purse or cell phone but said there had been no activity on her credit cards

"We have no physical evidence, nor do we have any statements from anyone to indicate that a crime has been committed," Boyer said. But he added that police considered Jones' disappearance to be suspicious.

http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/stories.nsf/stlouiscitycounty/story/E69B6FA69B3E7A7C862570620012D97F?OpenDocument

[2lakes]

Originally posted by Babes



But if he got a wife the question is why would they meet at the civic center where people could probably recognize him specially if he works there. They could meet somewhere else also but if he kills her and wanted to establish a great alibi then they met on the right location.

And yes you are right there will be struggling and possibly amanda could be shouting too not unless there is a pistol on her face and she's thinking of the safety of her unborn child as well.


She attended a christmas party and met westfall before, i wonder who is the people that she knows in that party and she attended it.

It is also possible also that she was kidnapped for her baby but the question is whoever kidnapped her even follow her all the way down to jefferson county? ... that kidnapper knew that she's pregnant and about to give birth coz a lot of big women nowadays look like pregnant also so they couldn't distinguish the big women from a pregnant women. I wonder how far is jefferson county or hillsboro to be exact from amanda's house.

Jefferson County is the county that Hillsboro is in & the same county that Amanda lives in. It is all within 20 minutes. I don't think there was a struggle. Someone lured her in the car & most likely the father of the baby was involved in getting her in that car.

[2lakes]

Originally posted by Babes
News Update:

Jefferson County Sheriff Oliver "Glenn" Boyer said investigators had received more than 100 tips about Amanda Jones, who is nine months pregnant and hasn't been seen since Sunday. One tip came from Wisconsin, where a man claimed to have seen Jones sitting in the car behind him at a traffic light.

Police have not recovered Jones' purse or cell phone but said there had been no activity on her credit cards

"We have no physical evidence, nor do we have any statements from anyone to indicate that a crime has been committed," Boyer said. But he added that police considered Jones' disappearance to be suspicious.

http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/stories.nsf/stlouiscitycounty/story/E69B6FA69B3E7A7C862570620012D97F?OpenDocument


Babes, thanks for the news update. Authorities have said anytime a case is featured in the public there are always tips a lot of which turn up false leads. (Remember tips of Laci Peterson being seen). I guess it is possible for Amanda to be in Wisconsin but I have seen a lot of women that look like her and so it's very possible the woman he saw in a car was not her. I would also think that if she were kidnapped they would conceal the location/state they were in from her so that if they plan to let her go after she gives birth she would not be able to identify where she had been taken.

Her due date is now in 3 days.

[2lakes]

Amanda's gift registries show her due date as August 27. I hope Amanda and her sweet baby boy are found okay.

http://www.walmart.com/cservice/ca_giftregistry_detail.gsp?registry_id=00691145001

http://www.amazon.com/gp/registry/registry.html/104-5409241-3149558?%5Fencoding=UTF8&id=15UE0T59E36MC

[RebelAngel]

:rose: :rose: :rose:

Originally posted by 2lakes
Amanda's gift registries show her due date as August 27. I hope Amanda and her sweet baby boy are found okay.

http://www.walmart.com/cservice/ca_giftregistry_detail.gsp?registry_id=00691145001

http://www.amazon.com/gp/registry/registry.html/104-5409241-3149558?%5Fencoding=UTF8&id=15UE0T59E36MC


:rose: :rose: :rose:

I cant believe someone would abduct a woman for her unborn baby but I remember a chinese guy who lived above the takeaway shop next door but one to me. His wife had been sterilized as she already had a child in China. One night her husband came back from the casino with a very young, very pregnant girl. The girl was rough looking and could speak no english. She looked like an "illegal" She stayed above the shop and no-one ever saw her. When her baby was born the chinese guy came to show him to us and said "Look at my son". My husband and I didnt know what to think. We knew the baby wasnt his wifes. We never saw the girl again and nothing was ever said about her. It still disturbs me to this day what happened to that girl. The chinese guy could have had an affair and his wife decided to raise the baby, but I truly believe looking back that there was something sinsiter that went on with that girl. I spoke to people about it and they thought I was being "over dramatic". About a year later we had a problem in the shop with rats. We had never been bothered with them before, there was also a horrible smell (which everyone put down to rotten food from the takeaway, but it went on for weeks and seemed to seep under the floor. It eventually went and so did the rats. I said to my husband I wouldnt be suprised if that girl wasnt under the floor and I still think that it could be possible.
I know this post sounds far fetched but I had to get this off my chest. The chinese guy moved a couple of months later (it is a rented shop)

[2lakes]

Originally posted by redpets
I cant believe someone would abduct a woman for her unborn baby but I remember a chinese guy who lived above the takeaway shop next door but one to me. His wife had been sterilized as she already had a child in China. One night her husband came back from the casino with a very young, very pregnant girl. The girl was rough looking and could speak no english. She looked like an "illegal" She stayed above the shop and no-one ever saw her. When her baby was born the chinese guy came to show him to us and said "Look at my son". My husband and I didnt know what to think. We knew the baby wasnt his wifes. We never saw the girl again and nothing was ever said about her. It still disturbs me to this day what happened to that girl. The chinese guy could have had an affair and his wife decided to raise the baby, but I truly believe looking back that there was something sinsiter that went on with that girl. I spoke to people about it and they thought I was being "over dramatic". About a year later we had a problem in the shop with rats. We had never been bothered with them before, there was also a horrible smell (which everyone put down to rotten food from the takeaway, but it went on for weeks and seemed to seep under the floor. It eventually went and so did the rats. I said to my husband I wouldnt be suprised if that girl wasnt under the floor and I still think that it could be possible.
I know this post sounds far fetched but I had to get this off my chest. The chinese guy moved a couple of months later (it is a rented shop)


OH MY GOSH! How long ago was that? Yes, you should report it to authorities. There is equipment today that would make it very easy to find out if a body is buried under cement. You might be surprised how much better you would feel about the situation to tell LE and you could be the missing link to someone's missing daughter.

Still nothing more on this story. I saw a repeat of her parents JUST BREAKING DOWN and it made me cry.

I just have a very sick feeling about Amanda and her in utero baby!

:rose: Prayers for Amanda and her family.:rose:

[jfehl]

Originally posted by Eyecandyrises
Still nothing more on this story. I saw a repeat of her parents JUST BREAKING DOWN and it made me cry.

I just have a very sick feeling about Amanda and her in utero baby!

:rose: Prayers for Amanda and her family.:rose:

I have that same feeling of dread. This scenario is becoming so commonplace. I pray for Amanda and her little boy, but I fear the worst.

:(

Police press search for missing woman
By Matthew Hathaway
Of the Post-Dispatch
08/20/2005
http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/stories.nsf/stlouiscitycounty/story/27488EC99B83FF2D862570630010C8B3?OpenDocument&highlight=2%2C%22Amanda%22+AND+%22Jones%22

Amanda Jones of Pevely has been missing since Sunday.

Police in Jefferson County combed the grounds of the Hillsboro Civic Center on Friday for the seventh time, unable to turn up any clues in the search for Amanda Jones, the pregnant woman from Pevely who has been missing since Sunday.

A 20-member police task force will work through the weekend on a case that has baffled friends and relatives of the 26-year-old single mother, who had expected to give birth to a baby boy this month. Police say that they have found no evidence of foul play and that they still consider the matter to be a missing person case.

[2lakes]

Picture of Amanda taken the same day before she vanished.

http://www.ksdk.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=83541

[ErrinSpelling]

Mr Probst (father) on Big Story/FOX said :
POI/ baby's father has a lawyer
& someone else, who was ?ed has a lawyer.

Mr. Probst says with abduction & what she may have gone through, she could have already had the baby...b/c the baby had already dropped & was in position &she was having contractions...

Also: a plea to someone, who saw something.please come forward!
----------------

I don't understand , when she was having contractions.

[emmeblu]

Watched Amanda's dad on TV tonight. :rose: Just breaks your heart. They were talking about it is time for the baby.
:rose:
Praying Amanda & BABY will be found safe!!!!!!!!!

[2lakes]

Originally posted by ErrinSpelling
Mr Probst (father) on Big Story/FOX said :
POI/ baby's father has a lawyer
& someone else, who was ?ed has a lawyer.

Mr. Probst says with abduction & what she may have gone through, she could have already had the baby...b/c the baby had already dropped & was in position &she was having contractions...

Also: a plea to someone, who saw something.please come forward!
----------------

I don't understand , when she was having contractions.

Maybe since her previous doctors appt. which would be weekly at that stage. Maybe she had been to the doctor late in the week? Isn't it common for the baby to drop and have minor contractions up to a few weeks before delivery?

[ErrinSpelling]

Originally posted by 2lakes


Maybe since her previous doctors appt. which would be weekly at that stage. Maybe she had been to the doctor late in the week? Isn't it common for the baby to drop and have minor contractions up to a few weeks before delivery?
Thank-you 2lakes,I didn't know & know very little about delivery.

[court~critic1®]

Originally posted by 2lakes


Maybe since her previous doctors appt. which would be weekly at that stage. Maybe she had been to the doctor late in the week? Isn't it common for the baby to drop and have minor contractions up to a few weeks before delivery?


Most babies do "drop" before delivery. Also it is common for women to have what is called "Braxton Hicks",minor contractions as you called them, up to 3 weeks before delivery. Not all women have them though.

Hope this helps.

:rose: :rose:

[starling]

Originally posted by 2lakes
Picture of Amanda taken the same day before she vanished.

http://www.ksdk.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=83541

:rose: :rose:

[ErrinSpelling]

Originally posted by Jadedblueeyes


I just find it so suspicious that Amanda goes missing right before her due date and there is a boyfriend around.

While yes, once in a blue moon we will see someone abduct someone for their baby the odds of it happening are beyond rare.

I once again feel very uneasy about Amanda's outcome. I pray..just like I pray everytime....that I am wrong and she is alive somewhere but back in my mind it nags at me..........that mean hard thing to face.........reality.........and it isn't looking promising for her.

Approximately four women per day in our country are being murdered by their SOs, 100s more being severely maimed. More and more it seems pregnant women are being murdered at an alarming rate. If this doesn't stop then I suppose Coldwater will have to assign a new forum just for them.:rose: Sometimes it seems our world has gone mad.

For Amanda and family!:rose: I am praying for you all.

IMO

Ocean
I also found it very suspicious, last week, when amanda's sister said on Rita, that this guy didn't want anything, to do w/ amanda, or the baby,until the day he calls her, to meet him- the day she goes missing.
4 women a day?how sad!:rose:

[2lakes]

http://www.ksdk.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=83596

Interesting comments in the article:

The current girlfriend of Bryan Westfall has hired an attorney.

Originally posted by 2lakes
http://www.ksdk.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=83596

Interesting comments in the article:

The current girlfriend of Bryan Westfall has hired an attorney.

That doesn't sound good. I just watched a show about a young man and his current girlfriend who killed an ex girlfriend of his. Can't remember their names but they were young and in the military, I think.

[amb40]

How sad.....
The ex boyfriend wants nothing to do with her or the baby...TOO FISHY!!!
I bet my eyes he probably did it! MOO. MOO.MOO!Who else could it be//How many people kill pregnant women unless its usually the husband or boyfriend......9 out of 10 times its the spouse or bf..

Too many pregnant women getting killed by their bf/ex bf's!or husbands....(ie.SP,Lori Hackings husband.....)what is happening in this world today! how sad!

I have twins and was pregnant last year with them and couldnt imagine what the family is going through!:rose:

[lorjac]

I thought I read that he had taken a lie detector test and was cooperating.

Maybe (just throwing this out there) the girlfriend is afraid that if he did do this, that something could link her to it, even if she had nothing to do with it... not sure that's not a bad idea.

But my guts go w/the baby's father... how sad is that???

These men are to cowardly to pay for their responsibilities ~ so they think it's just easier to take two lives!!!!

It's really sad that I live a couple hours from St. Louis and I heard about this missing woman on this board Friday. Our local news had not said a word about it.

[2lakes]

Originally posted by MoJen
It's really sad that I live a couple hours from St. Louis and I heard about this missing woman on this board Friday. Our local news had not said a word about it.

Her poor parents have been trying to get in front of the national media every chance they are given to get the word out. I just keep hoping with her due date here that she will turn up safely.

Originally posted by MoJen
It's really sad that I live a couple hours from St. Louis and I heard about this missing woman on this board Friday. Our local news had not said a word about it.

That is just appalling MoJen. Tonight, I hear nothing about her. :(

WTH is wrong with our media?:punch:

I thought that I should chime in on this one.

I live in Jefferson County, and hear about this case all the time.
Westfall was an instructor at the Community College at one point. I saw a few questions about that in earlier posts. They have been reporting that here.

The one thing that bothers me about this though is how everyone wants to jump on Westfall for hiring a lawyer so quickly, but there is not a single person who wouldn't.
Imagine if he had absolutely nothing to do with it, he would want to make sure that he had someoneon his side making sure that there is nothing funny going on...Anyone in his place would do it.

Now I am not saying that I belive that he had nothing to do with it, because everything that has been reported about this case casts him in a suspicious light...

Something that is odd though is that I never heard anything about a red car. They have not really said anything localy about that. Were the people in the car friends of hers?
But maybe I haven't been paying close enough attention.

Something else that bothers me too is that they keep reporting that she takes medication for Graves desease and that left untreated she is in danger. I dont think that is true. I know people with Graves, and it is a chemical imbalance dealing with the thyroid, and people who don't treat it get real crazy before they get sick. Maybe there is something there... But I have a friend with graves, and through some reading I learned about "Graves Rage" and how nuts someone can become. And I have seen it first hand.

So I wonder if she was taking her medication properly before hand, and how pregnancy affected that.

I think there are two likely scenarios.
The first is that She met with Westfall who said that he wanted nothing to do with her, she went nuts, and he did her and the unborn baby in (probably the most likely)

Or that she is crazy and irrational and took off to another state and made it seem like this guy had something to do with her dissapearing.
It seems like a pretty far out crazy sort of thing, but in my expirience I would put nothing past someone that has graves and is in a crazy phase.

[2lakes]

Amanda's brother interviewed this evening with Greta's On The Record.

He said that Westfall has changed his story a number of times on what happened that day since the evening she went missing and the first time her parents called him.

Phone records show that she hasn't used her phone since around 1:00 pm last Sunday. One of his stories was that when he left she was on her phone and when he returned 3 hours later she was still sitting in her car on the phone.

Originally posted by 2lakes
Amanda's brother interviewed this evening with Greta's On The Record.

He said that Westfall has changed his story a number of times on what happened that day since the evening she went missing and the first time her parents called him.

Phone records show that she hasn't used her phone since around 1:00 pm last Sunday. One of his stories was that when he left she was on her phone and when he returned 3 hours later she was still sitting in her car on the phone.


:( :( :(

Sad, sad, and more sad. I think this guy in in this knee deep IMO.

[jfehl]

Originally posted by 2lakes
Amanda's brother interviewed this evening with Greta's On The Record.

He said that Westfall has changed his story a number of times on what happened that day since the evening she went missing and the first time her parents called him.

Phone records show that she hasn't used her phone since around 1:00 pm last Sunday. One of his stories was that when he left she was on her phone and when he returned 3 hours later she was still sitting in her car on the phone.


It really doesn't sound very good for Amanda and her baby. It seems like the walls are closing in on Westfall. And why has his girlfriend hired an attorney??? WTH is going on with all these pregnant women being done in by the fathers? It makes me feel sick to my stomach.

:rose: For Amanda and her little one

[amb40]

I think Westfall had everything to do with it....just like in the Figuerora case....So sad......Maybe the crackpot will confess soon enough! MOO

Amanda's due date was yesterday,wasn't it?

[lmg16]

Originally posted by jfehl



It really doesn't sound very good for Amanda and her baby. It seems like the walls are closing in on Westfall. And why has his girlfriend hired an attorney??? WTH is going on with all these pregnant women being done in by the fathers? It makes me feel sick to my stomach.

:rose: For Amanda and her little one

WTH is going on with all these pregnant women being done in by the fathers?

I was thinking the same thing... and I have a theory. Our courts are getting much tougher on fathers. Now, with DNA testing, fathers can't get away with "it's not my kid". Supporting a child for 18 years is alot of money and I think it causes some men to get desperate. Hence, (it seems) the increase in murders of pregnant mothers.

For pregnancies that result from casual sex or where there is little or no emotional involvement, it is a very heavy financial burden for fathers, IMO. Some, unfortunately, think murder is the answer to their problems. Too many couples do not use birth control or too many men leave that up to the woman...

I'm not really sure how I feel about this turn of events re: father's and mandatory support. Of course, they need to support their children. But, in reality, the mother of the child seems to have more control over the situation (ie: abortion, adoption, not telling the father, etc.)

I wish people would think before they have sex: Do I want to be responsible for raising a child with this person for 18 years?

I hope they find Amanda and her baby alive and well, but I think her baby's father is involved in her disappearance.


:rose: Amanda and baby

[starling]

You said it all, lmg16 :(

By some miracle...I hope they are safe
:rose: :rose:

[2lakes]

Originally posted by lmg16


WTH is going on with all these pregnant women being done in by the fathers?

I was thinking the same thing... and I have a theory. Our courts are getting much tougher on fathers. Now, with DNA testing, fathers can't get away with "it's not my kid". Supporting a child for 18 years is alot of money and I think it causes some men to get desperate. Hence, (it seems) the increase in murders of pregnant mothers.

For pregnancies that result from casual sex or where there is little or no emotional involvement, it is a very heavy financial burden for fathers, IMO. Some, unfortunately, think murder is the answer to their problems. Too many couples do not use birth control or too many men leave that up to the woman...

I'm not really sure how I feel about this turn of events re: father's and mandatory support. Of course, they need to support their children. But, in reality, the mother of the child seems to have more control over the situation (ie: abortion, adoption, not telling the father, etc.)

I wish people would think before they have sex: Do I want to be responsible for raising a child with this person for 18 years?

I hope they find Amanda and her baby alive and well, but I think her baby's father is involved in her disappearance.


:rose: Amanda and baby


You are so right. I was flipping through channels last night and ended up watching part of the Real World (I'm an adult closet watcher of reality shows!). One of the guys in the house went to a bar and brought back a girl to the house and they had sex then he called her a cab. I was so embarressed for the girl that not only she had sex with someone whom she had just met but also showed her face on national television doing so. :shrug:

[lorjac]

What a sad, sad world we live in when a man (for lack of a better term) thinks it's easier to kill and dispose of a woman and unborn child rather than take responsibility.

Hell, just walk away ~ have the child support people come after you years later and take the fine and the $$ hit... it's a HELL of a lot better than prison!!! Duh.

In a lot of these cases, I doubt the woman would even care if the low life who showed NO interest in their child would ever try to contact him or get money. It's just easier and apparently a lot safer!

[lmg16]

Originally posted by 2lakes



You are so right. I was flipping through channels last night and ended up watching part of the Real World (I'm an adult closet watcher of reality shows!). One of the guys in the house went to a bar and brought back a girl to the house and they had sex then he called her a cab. I was so embarressed for the girl that not only she had sex with someone whom she had just met but also showed her face on national television doing so. :shrug:

And, if she were to end up pregnant- that guy is going to have to pay financial support for 18 years... its alot of money. Was that roll in the hay worth it???

(I can't believe most of the stuff people are willing to do on national tv- much less a one night stand.:) )

[lmg16]

Originally posted by lorjac
What a sad, sad world we live in when a man (for lack of a better term) thinks it's easier to kill and dispose of a woman and unborn child rather than take responsibility.

Hell, just walk away ~ have the child support people come after you years later and take the fine and the $$ hit... it's a HELL of a lot better than prison!!! Duh.

In a lot of these cases, I doubt the woman would even care if the low life who showed NO interest in their child would ever try to contact him or get money. It's just easier and apparently a lot safer!

What a sad, sad world we live in when a man (for lack of a better term) thinks it's easier to kill and dispose of a woman and unborn child rather than take responsibility.

Sure is. Stupid, desperate people do stupid things. I'll never understand how people think they are going to get away with it. Of course, it could have been done out of anger and not planned out.

Hope we hear something soon about Amanda and her baby.

hmmm I think the unborn baby's father is bs. because of the story of the couple going over and telling him to call Amanda and then he calls her and says to meet him for lunch I would think if the couple actually did go and tell him to call her he would have said something about that to her like who are these people and did you send them to tell me to call you....

I've been busy and not able to keep up with the case very well. Has there been anything new come up in the last 2-3 days.. or are things still the same w/ the ex changing his story over and over w/o any actual leads coming up?

These cases are so heartbreaking, just horrible. As others have said... it's a sad, sad world - indeed. :(

For Amanda and the family :rose: :rose:

[lmg16]

Originally posted by Mariahm_m


I'm all for safe sex.. birth control and all that.... BUT!
If a man fathers a child no matter what the circumstances then he should pay child support... Period..... For 18 years.... no Ifs
Ands or Buts!

JMO


I agree, BUT... I just used one of those financial calculators. I used $1000 per month as a child support amount. When you compound that with a 6.9 % interest quarterly over 18 years, you get this amount: $426,128.15 being paid! (( I used this site for my calculations:

http://www.tcalc.com/tvwww.dll?Save

Its a heck of alot of money for anybody but especially for a man working at a lower wage. All I'm saying is I can understand how some men get desparate at the thought of supporting a child when they feel little or no emotional connection to the mother and/or baby. Desparate people do desparate things. Some of these guys probably already have another or other children they are supporting so they know how much money they're going to owe.

What's the saying money and sex are the root of all evil... and murders?

But.. anyway back to Amanda and her baby. I hope they are found soon and safe!

Originally posted by lmg16

I agree, BUT... I just used one of those financial calculators. I used $1000 per month as a child support amount. When you compound that with a 6.9 % interest quarterly over 18 years, you get this amount: $426,128.15 being paid! (( I used this site for my calculations:
http://www.tcalc.com/tvwww.dll?Save

First of all, I dont think your figures are right. WHEW! I wish I was supposed to get that much money. The amount you pay in child support is derived from your income. I am supposed to receive $100 a week for 2 children in "child support". That's ONLY $400 a month for 2 kids. Do you know the cost of child care?

Its a heck of alot of money for anybody but especially for a man working at a lower wage. All I'm saying is I can understand how some men get desparate at the thought of supporting a child when they feel little or no emotional connection to the mother and/or baby. Desparate people do desparate things. Some of these guys probably already have another or other children they are supporting so they know how much money they're going to owe.
What's the saying money and sex are the root of all evil... and murders?
But.. anyway back to Amanda and her baby. I hope they are found soon and safe!

Sounds to be like you are ok with men not taking responsibility. You are right, it is a heck of a lot of money, but it is for her too. If they have other children then they already know how to make one and the cost to raise one and should do more to avoid pregnancy from happening. Especially if they are earning a low wage. You think all single Mom parents are rolling in the dough? Think they dont make low wages? Who is going to care for the kid while she has to work? Women feel just as low and desperate being alone.

Both people are and should be responsible. That is why people should not be promiscuous and should try to conceive once they are financially ok and are in a stable relationship. I know that this is not a perfect world and that does not always happen but dont make excuses for the males in these situations. They were there and participated with her.

:rose: Amanda

[2lakes]

Originally posted by Mariahm_m


I'm all for safe sex.. birth control and all that.... BUT!
If a man fathers a child no matter what the circumstances then he should pay child support... Period..... For 18 years.... no Ifs
Ands or Buts!

JMO


And it doesn't really end at 18 years. My best friend has two step daughters and in addition to child support they have to pay half of braces, half of medical insurance, half of car insurance and half of college which the oldest just started this fall.

Think about it before you have a one night stand. Think about the financial and emotional aspects of bringing an innocent child into the earth. YOU HAVE A CHILD FOR LIFE.

[lmg16]

Originally posted by liltaraf
First of all, I dont think your figures are right. WHEW! I wish I was supposed to get that much money. The amount you pay in child support is derived from your income. I am supposed to receive $100 a week for 2 children in "child support". That's ONLY $400 a month for 2 kids. Do you know the cost of child care?

Its a heck of alot of money for anybody but especially for a man working at a lower wage. All I'm saying is I can understand how some men get desparate at the thought of supporting a child when they feel little or no emotional connection to the mother and/or baby. Desparate people do desparate things. Some of these guys probably already have another or other children they are supporting so they know how much money they're going to owe.
What's the saying money and sex are the root of all evil... and murders?
But.. anyway back to Amanda and her baby. I hope they are found soon and safe!

Sounds to be like you are ok with men not taking responsibility. You are right, it is a heck of a lot of money, but it is for her too. If they have other children then they already know how to make one and the cost to raise one and should do more to avoid pregnancy from happening. Especially if they are earning a low wage. You think all single Mom parents are rolling in the dough? Think they dont make low wages? Who is going to care for the kid while she has to work? Women feel just as low and desperate being alone.

Both people are and should be responsible. That is why people should not be promiscuous and should try to conceive once they are financially ok and are in a stable relationship. I know that this is not a perfect world and that does not always happen but dont make excuses for the males in these situations. They were there and participated with her.

:rose: Amanda

Uh no, I'm not ok with men not taking responsibility. I'm just trying to see the other side a bit and try to understand why it seems the murder of pregnant women is increasing. You're right single parenting falls mostly all on the woman, but.... she does have the choice to have/keep the child or not. The father doesn't really have that choice, its up to the woman. I'm just pointing out that it is a large amount of money that a man is faced with paying for at least 18 years. We know people have murdered for alot less. ( I just guessed at the $1000 figure because that's what a friend is paying. Your total amount would be $373,075.46 based on $400 a month.)

But, you're right he should have thought about that before he had unprotected sex. Unfortunately, it seems far too many men and women don't think of that before casual and unprotected sex.

[lmg16]

Originally posted by 2lakes



And it doesn't really end at 18 years. My best friend has two step daughters and in addition to child support they have to pay half of braces, half of medical insurance, half of car insurance and half of college which the oldest just started this fall.

Think about it before you have a one night stand. Think about the financial and emotional aspects of bringing an innocent child into the earth. YOU HAVE A CHILD FOR LIFE.


ITA

[lmg16]

Originally posted by lmg16


Uh no, I'm not ok with men not taking responsibility. I'm just trying to see the other side a bit and try to understand why it seems the murder of pregnant women is increasing. You're right single parenting falls mostly all on the woman, but.... she does have the choice to have/keep the child or not. The father doesn't really have that choice, its up to the woman. I'm just pointing out that it is a large amount of money that a man is faced with paying for at least 18 years. We know people have murdered for alot less. ( I just guessed at the $1000 figure because that's what a friend is paying. Your total amount would be $373,075.46 based on $400 a month.)

But, you're right he should have thought about that before he had unprotected sex. Unfortunately, it seems far too many men and women don't think of that before casual and unprotected sex.

Sorry the total amount was figured out wrong it should be $186,537.73 instead of $373,075.46. I was too late to do an edit.

Back to Amanda and baby.:rose:

[2lakes]

Timeline & photo of Westfall

http://www.ksdk.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=83858



Police now publicly say they suspect foul play & have searched Westfall's property

http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/stories.nsf/stlouiscitycounty/story/934D8CE6117052E18625706800124815?OpenDocument

:rose: :rose: :rose:

[dalma3604]

Originally posted by 2lakes
Timeline & photo of Westfall

http://www.ksdk.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=83858



Police now publicly say they suspect foul play & have searched Westfall's property

http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/stories.nsf/stlouiscitycounty/story/934D8CE6117052E18625706800124815?OpenDocument


Thanks for the links, 2lakes.

:rose: for Amanda..........

[2lakes]

From the stltoday link above:

Police investigating the disappearance of a pregnant woman from Pevely searched the home and farm Wednesday of a man who authorities believe was the last person to see her.

Jefferson County Sheriff Oliver "Glenn" Boyer said investigators had searched Westfall's home, truck, trailer and farm property near Hillsboro and an adjacent farm belonging to his parents.

Boyer said Westfall had consented to the search, adding that Westfall was "not a suspect" but was considered "a person of interest" in the case.

Boyer said police took several items for forensic testing but declined to specify what they were.


WHY WOULD THEY WAIT 10 DAYS TO SEARCH THE PROPERTY OF THE LAST KNOWN PERSON TO BE SEEN WITH HER???? SOMEONE PLEASE EXPLAIN IT TO ME BECAUSE I'M NOT GETTIN IT!

[koawally]

Originally posted by 2lakes
Timeline & photo of Westfall

http://www.ksdk.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=83858



Police now publicly say they suspect foul play & have searched Westfall's property

http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/stories.nsf/stlouiscitycounty/story/934D8CE6117052E18625706800124815?OpenDocument

Thanks 2lakes for the updates!!

Hope the police have done thorough testing on the Civic Centres bathroon...that was unlocked by westfall for Amanda!!

I'm so saddned that yet another beautiful expectant Mother...is missing. This is just heartbreaking!!

IMO The ex-boyfriends story and timeline are definately suspect.!!

What a nightmare for Amanda's family!! So praying for her and the baby's safe return!!


Here's the timeline:

9:30 a.m. to 12:00 p.m., Amanda is photographed at her church, Calvary Assembly of God in Festus, for a Sunday school promotion.

12:15 p.m. to 12:30 p.m., Amanda leaves her four year old with her parents, and kisses her daughter and mother goodbye, saying she would see them later.

1:00 p.m., Meet with Bryan Westfall, the man she says is the father of her unborn child.

2:00 p.m., Westfall tells Hubert Propst that the two met at the Hillsboro Civic Center, and she announced she needed to go to the toilet. Sheriff's deputies say Westfall, who was a volunteer at the civic center, unlocks the facilities door so she has access.

Here's where the timeline has a gap.

Propst says Westfall told him that he last saw Amanda at two, while she's talking on the phone, but in a later conversation, he tells Propst that he saw her again at 5:00 p.m., and she was still on the phone. Propst says that's impossible.

Propst and Westfall talk on the phone after five at least three times, according to Propst family friends. At 9:00 or 9:30, the decision is made to call the sheriff's department in Hillsboro.

Sheriff's deputies start looking for Amanda, and with the help of a family friend, they find her car at the civic center.

Monday, the alert goes out for Amanda.

Deputies are now re-interviewing witnesses, to see if their memories have improved, or if their stories don't connect.

At this point, they have 40 more leads to go on, leads that were generated by the $100,000 reward offered earlier this week. The reward was offered by an anonymous stranger.

JMOO
~ Koawally

Originally posted by 2lakes
From the stltoday link above:

Police investigating the disappearance of a pregnant woman from Pevely searched the home and farm Wednesday of a man who authorities believe was the last person to see her.

Jefferson County Sheriff Oliver "Glenn" Boyer said investigators had searched Westfall's home, truck, trailer and farm property near Hillsboro and an adjacent farm belonging to his parents.

Boyer said Westfall had consented to the search, adding that Westfall was "not a suspect" but was considered "a person of interest" in the case.

Boyer said police took several items for forensic testing but declined to specify what they were.


WHY WOULD THEY WAIT 10 DAYS TO SEARCH THE PROPERTY OF THE LAST KNOWN PERSON TO BE SEEN WITH HER???? SOMEONE PLEASE EXPLAIN IT TO ME BECAUSE I'M NOT GETTIN IT!

They think they are in Aruba maybe?:shrug:

[cinderella1008]

if mom to be hasn't talked to the father of the baby throughout the pregnancy why would she go see him so casually right now? I'm trying to get up to speed on this tragedy. sounds real shady.

[starling]

Originally posted by 2lakes
<snip>

WHY WOULD THEY WAIT 10 DAYS TO SEARCH THE PROPERTY OF THE LAST KNOWN PERSON TO BE SEEN WITH HER???? SOMEONE PLEASE EXPLAIN IT TO ME BECAUSE I'M NOT GETTIN IT!

hey, read in this forum - missing - Kathy Stobaugh
THAT one will blow your mind IMO

:rose: Amanda

[lmg16]

Originally posted by Jadedblueeyes


Is this man married or does he already have a g/f?

I dont think she is on the farm.

Is there water areas around the Civic Center? Ours is on the Flint River, just curious.

Thanks in advance.

IMO

Ocean

"Is there water areas around the Civic Center?" No major lakes or rivers immedietely next to the civic center grounds that I know of. Lots of small lakes, ponds, lots of creeks, etc.

The town of Hillsboro (where they met) is a small town in a fairly rural area. Lots of open space and plenty of place to dispose of a body that wouldn't be easily found, IMO. Hillsboro is around 15 minutes from the Mississippi River... probably the biggest water source nearby.

[ErrinSpelling]

Originally posted by CeeBee

What I saw on Greta (I think) last night was that police did a limited "walk-through" when she first went missing. Not sure why it was limited then and not now.

I probably heard wrong, but on Abrams last night it sounded like the lieutennant said his lawyer, was only allowing certain areas searched now.

[ErrinSpelling]

Originally posted by cinderella1008
if mom to be hasn't talked to the father of the baby throughout the pregnancy why would she go see him so casually right now? I'm trying to get up to speed on this tragedy. sounds real shady.
from what the mother, father & sister were saying, in the beginning, on Rita & Abrams,I get the idea he lured her, by pretending he wanted to have something to do, with his baby.
They said something about naming the baby after him.Also, I think he told her the couple in the red car story.
If he wanted to kill her,he better think up some pretty snappy things to say, on the phone...maybe,i was worried,i'll protect you,can i be at the delivery,i have a present, for our baby,who knows?

LATOYIA'S KILLER LURED HER, BY ASKING HER, TO TAKE THE DAY OFF ,(SORRY) & he'd take her, to the dr...only the dummy wouldn't even pay the 35$ co pay.

[cinderella1008]

If dad is behind her 'disapperance' he must be some fool to show up and then she go missing. Must not be a fan of court tv. or maybe he is so darn smart that he thinks "they'll think, that I'll think ,I didn't do anything because who could be so dumb.."

[Babes]

Originally posted by ErrinSpelling

from what the mother, father & sister were saying, in the beginning, on Rita & Abrams,I get the idea he lured her, by pretending he wanted to have something to do, with his baby.
They said something about naming the baby after him.Also, I think he told her the couple in the red car story.
If he wanted to kill her,he better think up some pretty snappy things to say, on the phone...maybe,i was worried,i'll protect you,can i be at the delivery,i have a present, for our baby,who knows?

LATOYIA'S KILLER LURED HER, BY ASKING HER, TO TAKE THE DAY OFF ,(SORRY) & he'd take her, to the dr...only the dummy wouldn't even pay the 35$ co pay.

Remember per his story .... they will take LUNCH. When Latoya probably reach the civic center, heprobably said, "Let's Go use my car and ill bring you to my favorite Japanese Restaurant" ...


I wanna know if the place for the lunch was already established and confirmed so they can create some timeline.

Originally posted by ErrinSpelling

from what the mother, father & sister were saying, in the beginning, on Rita & Abrams,I get the idea he lured her, by pretending he wanted to have something to do, with his baby.
They said something about naming the baby after him.Also, I think he told her the couple in the red car story.
If he wanted to kill her,he better think up some pretty snappy things to say, on the phone...maybe,i was worried,i'll protect you,can i be at the delivery,i have a present, for our baby,who knows?

LATOYIA'S KILLER LURED HER, BY ASKING HER, TO TAKE THE DAY OFF ,(SORRY) & he'd take her, to the dr...only the dummy wouldn't even pay the 35$ co pay.

Hi Errin, LTNS.

I am so saddened that Amanda is not getting more coverage and just hope against all odds that she is found alive.

:rose: :rose: :rose:

[marabeth]

For Amanda..:rose:

[Babes]

Originally posted by Eyecandyrises


Hi Errin, LTNS.

I am so saddened that Amanda is not getting more coverage and just hope against all odds that she is found alive.

:rose: :rose: :rose:

I agree

[BevAnn]

Not much more than we already knew - but this report was as of this weekend...

http://www.teamamberalert.net/news/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=9553

Her poor mom and dad.

I just don't think this one will end well.


:rose: for her and all her family, esp her little daughter. :(

Bev Ann

[Babes]

Originally posted by Babes
Is this the same bryan westfall?

http://www.jeffco.edu/vt/bus/bwestfal/home_blw.htm

Westfall, 36, a farmer and former instructor at Jefferson College in Hillsboro,

http://www.teamamberalert.net/news/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=9553


This is the brian westfall and it looks like they removed the picture already :D

[jfehl]

http://ksdk.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=83899

Maybe this will help to find Amanda.

Originally posted by Jadedblueeyes


Me too Candy and when she gets just a snippet or a quick 30 second mention it makes me even more sad.

How can the media continue to rate a victim's worth all on their own? Why do some count and others dont?

IMO

Ocean

I think we should email Anderson Cooper. He has refused to cover the Holloway story any longer unless there is actual new news, and suggest that he take time every night for one of the other missing people who arent getting coverage b/c the other shows are almost exclusively running wall to wall Holloway shows.

I bet he would jump at it

[ErrinSpelling]

Originally posted by Eyecandyrises


Hi Errin, LTNS.

I am so saddened that Amanda is not getting more coverage and just hope against all odds that she is found alive.

:rose: :rose:

:seeya:


yes,it is sad & i think she needs her medicine, for a thyroid disease & the baby was due, last week.it should have been ,on every channel.

This is soooo sad...ANOTHER BEAUTIFUL MISSING HELPLESS PREGNANT WOMAN! I pray that she & baby are found alive. :rose:

[2lakes]

BUMPING.....Coming here hoping for updates and there still are none. Amanda, you are not forgotten. :rose:

[2lakes]

http://www.teamamberalert.net/news/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=9659

Bertha Propst remains hopeful that her daughter and new grandson will be found but worries that their story will fade from the spotlight.

Amanda & baby :rose:

[IHitTheRoyal]

Another bump for Amanda and her baby... praying for their safe return, praying for Amanda's family in this horribly difficult time. God bless them, and God bless all the missing and their loved ones - everywhere.

[cleo718]

Just checking in to see if any updates. I see there are none.

Why I haven't seen anything on tv I don't know.

I do know that Katrina is taking up most of the news time right now, but these poor people.

Amanda I'm praying that you and your baby are somehow safe and are brought home soon.

Your parents and daughter need and love you.

:rose:

[starling]

Originally posted by MissLisa77
Amanda & baby :rose:

:rose:

[jfehl]

Geez....has there been anything on Amanda lately? It's hard to imagine that a 9month pregnant woman can disappear off the face of the earth without a trace. I hope the family has some kind of news soon.

:rose:

[2lakes]

Unfortunately the chances of her parents getting any national news attention now is slim to none since the hurricane. I hope the police and FBI haven't forgotten her.

[emmeblu]

When I saw this thread on top, I just knew there would be some news...:(

:rose: Still praying that Amanda and baby will be found safe.

[jfehl]

Originally posted by emmeblu
When I saw this thread on top, I just knew there would be some news...:(

:rose: Still praying that Amanda and baby will be found safe.

I think everyone is trying to keep it on top to keep Amanda from falling between the cracks. Something about her story in particular just touches me.

Originally posted by jfehl


I think everyone is trying to keep it on top to keep Amanda from falling between the cracks. Something about her story in particular just touches me.

Me too. I think it is because it could have very well have been me. I feel so bad for her daughter and her parents.

[jfehl]

Police Getting Leads In Missing Pregnant Woman's Disappearance

http://ksdk.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=84593

(KSDK) - Investigators in Jefferson County say they've received several leads in the disappearance of a pregnant Pevely, Missouri woman and they hope the public provides other tips.


I hope they can soon come up with some answers.

Originally posted by MoJen
Something about her story in particular just touches me.

Me too. I think it is because it could have very well have been me. I feel so bad for her daughter and her parents.

Her family is what just pulls at my heart strings. Her dad just LOVES HER DEARLY and TREASURES HER AND HER OTHER CHILD! :rose:

[RebelAngel]

:rose: :rose: :rose:
Prayers go out for Amanda & loved ones

In our thoughts and prayers. You and your child will not be forgotten Amanda.

:rose: :rose: :rose:

[cleo718]

I can't believe the teeny tiny coverage this case is getting.

This is so sad.

Amanda, prayers for you and your baby.

:rose:

Originally posted by cleo718
I can't believe the teeny tiny coverage this case is getting.

This is so sad.

Amanda, prayers for you and your baby.

:rose:

Agree cleo, maybe it's time to write Greta again.

:rose: Prayers for Amanda and the family.

[BevAnn]

I agree - it is so frustrating to not have ANY word on this poor woman!!

In my opinion - these missing person cases get very "quiet" when they pretty much know WHO did it, but have no evidence or enough to arrest them on.

In this case - we've got the baby's daddy. Last to see her, lied about several things, told different stories. Odds are he's involved, but they can't nail him yet.

I remember we had a young lady taken here in my home town and they pretty much, knew who took her - but couldn't get enough evidence against him, so he's a free man and her case is NEVER discussed in the local media. I guess they think - why spend resources on a case they can't prove. Which brings up an interesting point - as LE, when do you draw the line? I know they are still "open" cold cases, but when you know your suspect has probably gotten away with murder and you have NOTHING...when do you pull detectives and say, ok, we gotta move on to other cases? The parents, of course, probably never get to that line. Which brings up another point - as a parent, do you draw the line? When can you go back to work, back to some sort of life? Nataliee Holloway's mom is experienceing this right now.
Very tough questions. I do not want to be in either of those shoes. EVER.

Bev Ann

[Chevalier]

Friends and I were just thinking of Amanda. Would sure be good to see her get some media coverage.:rose:

Originally posted by Chevalier
Friends and I were just thinking of Amanda. Would sure be good to see her get some media coverage.:rose:

I would like to see GRETA and NANCY do some follow-up on these kind of cases once a week, just to let the families know the world has not forgotten them.

:rose: Prayers for Amanda and family.

[jfehl]

Nothing new on Amanda this morning? This is so frustrating! She should be happy at home with two little ones right now. :(

[IHitTheRoyal]

It is so very sad in so many respects. Bumping for Amanda.

[BevAnn]

I searched and this is all I can find....not much...

"It's been more than six weeks since Amanda Jones disappeared.

The community continues to help the family. Six south St. Louis County Dominos Pizza stores are donating 20 percent of Thursday's sales to the family of Amanda Jones.

Amanda's parents are paying their daughter's bills and caring for her 4-year-old daughter. She was last seen at the Hillsboro Civic Center on August 14, shortly before she was due to give birth.

Investigators say tips have slowed down in recent weeks, despite the offer of a $100,000 reward."


http://www.ksdk.com/news/business_article.aspx?storyid=85436

Still so sad....I found another article on this news site, from about 2 weeks ago - it was when they held that benefit for her, and the Sheriff's dept was quoted as saying they were waiting for test results to come back, and it might just prove to be the break they needed. Wonder if they have them yet???? That's been 15 days ago...I guess if they DID and we haven't heard, then it must mean it wasn't the news they wanted.
:shrug:

Bev Ann

[crazyhorse]

Hi-I am new to posting to this board, but I have been reading it for ages. Amanda Jone's case is one I follow. I am praying she is found safe. This case is moving soooooo slow-its frustrating. Thanks to all of you for posting here and keeping me updated!

[BevAnn]

This case is just annoying me so bad!! I want some news on this!! For some reason, this one really pulls at me. I'm even contemplating calling the sheriff or SOMEone and asking them if there is any NEW info!!! But I'm sure I'd look like an idiot, so I won't. How do her poor mom and dad and child get through each day??? ARG Ok, I've vented...

Bev Ann

[crazyhorse]

Has anyone heard ANYTHING about this missing woman? Its unbelievable a 9 month pregnant woman just vanishing. Someone had to have saw something. I hope she is found soon, and is okay, but I am losing hope.

I hear ya Bev Ann!

[jfehl]

Today is Amanda's 27th birthday. What a trying time this must be for her family. She should be home celebrating with them and her new baby boy. It makes me so sad to see that her story is fading away.



http://www.ksdk.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=85826


The birthday has always a day for celebration for her family, including her Uncle Walt Bowers. Bowers says, "We take it pretty hard. No new leads yet, it's kinda tough, too. Just keep hoping she'll be home someday."


Happy Birthday Amanda :rose:

[2lakes]

Originally posted by jfehl
Today is Amanda's 27th birthday. What a trying time this must be for her family. She should be home celebrating with them and her new baby boy. It makes me so sad to see that her story is fading away.



http://www.ksdk.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=85826





Happy Birthday Amanda :rose:

She should be celebrating with her family who loves her and her sweet daughter and baby boy. Shame on whoever thought they had the right to take her from them :no:

[jfehl]

Bumping for Amanda

:(

[Babes]

No updates? :(

Bumping for Amanda... :rose:

[jfehl]

Remembering Amanda :rose:

[dalma3604]

Originally posted by jfehl
Remembering Amanda :rose:


:rose:

[dalma3604]

Originally posted by Veracity
Was researching the local Police and news outlets to see if there is any news at all. This is a bit off topic.

http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/stories.nsf/stlouiscitycounty/story/C40F19164E929D558625709B000DA812?OpenDocument

Parents in the Dunklin School District in Jefferson County are upset that a registered sex offender, who is facing 11 new charges, was allowed to participate in Friday's high school homecoming parade.

Assistant Superintendent Stan Stratton said he is investigating how Tracy R. Byerley, 45, of Pevely, came to be a passenger in a pickup that pulled a student float in Friday's parade. Stratton said the truck was driven by a woman who is the mother of a student in the district.

Several parents recognized Byerley in the parade and reported the incident to district officials.


makes you wonder just what is going on out there if several of the parents recognized this guy from PEVELY (exactly where Amanda went missing). The guy is a registered sex offender and he is facing 11 NEW CHARGES and he is on the streets??????????????????????????????????????????? ??



I'm with you on this one, Veracity! He wasn't just on the streets, he was at a high school homecoming parade!

He may be off topic here, but will eventually have his own thread. Don't ya think?

[jfehl]

Just thinking about Amanda. Still no news, I see.:(

[2lakes]

It's really sad that SOMEONE out there is getting away with a double homicide! Why isn't there any news on Amanda? It's a sad day in America when nobody cares if you were murdered because you don't fit into the "right category" for the media to help pursue justice.

Come on everyone, let's help Amanda (and her baby boy & young daughter) by not letting her story fade away.

I found this photo of Bryan Westfall, the LAST known person to see her alive. This was from the staff directory at Jefferson College where he used to work. I have a feeling that he could provide some answers to her last hours before she dissapeared. Maybe he is innocent, seems like he should want to help police find whoever did this to the mother of his child though.

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.jeffco.edu/vt/bus/pictures/bwestfal.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.jeffco.edu/vt/bus/bwestfal/home_blw.htm&h=203&w=201&sz=8&tbnid=JgBdLBypOtcJ:&tbnh=99&tbnw=98&hl=en&start=1&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dbryan%2Bwestfall%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3D en%26lr%3D%26sa%3DN

If anyone has connections to the media, PLEASE help find justice for Amanda. :rose:

[jfehl]

Bumping for Amanda:rose:

[crazyhorse]

What is going on with this case? It angers me Amanda Jones is still missing and is not in the media. Her disappearance needs to be solved and whoever is involved should be brought to justice. I have a bad feeling about Amanda and her unborn baby. I think the baby's 'father (sperm donor)' has some answers to our questions. Also, what about sperm donor's girlfriend? has she been looked at by LE?

[amb40]

So sad that Amanda is nt getting the publicity that SP case was..Poor thing! I hope they lock that sob away if that is the guy!the only lead they had supposedly..

[crazyhorse]

It is frustrating that nothing new has been found out in this case. It also is frustrating that the media literally has forgotten about Amanda Jones. I am hoping LE has some information/evidence and they are just keeping quiet about it, but somehow I am doubtful. This sperm donor looks awful suspicious!

[jfehl]

Originally posted by crazyhorse
This sperm donor looks awful suspicious!


Indeed he does! I'm thinking/hoping that LE is just sitting back waiting for him to make a stupid mistake.

[2lakes]

Originally posted by jfehl



Indeed he does! I'm thinking/hoping that LE is just sitting back waiting for him to make a stupid mistake.

Does anyone know if he has been asked to take a lie detector test?

[jfehl]

Amanda's story is fading. I found this article today. Sounds like the police have run into a brick wall. They are returning the car to the family. There is a video link on this page.


http://www.ksdk.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=87253


Tips to police aren't as constant, nor does it seem is public awareness. "Whenever we don't have the media there with a lot of cameras and something to feed that media, I shouldn't say interest is lost, but I think, somewhat the thoughts are diminished."

For Amanda :rose:

....and her family :rose:

[crazyhorse]

Very frustrating!! I am praying for the best outcome. Amanda and her baby need to be brought home-NOW.

[Justins Mom]

I was wondering about her. So sad.

[crazyhorse]

Hey! Anyone in Missouri or close to this case? I read somewhere (stupid me for not bookmarking the page!) that LE was able to search the baby's father's farmlands(or his parents). LE has sent some things to forensics for testing. I'll retrace my surfing to see if I can find that site. Has anyone else heard anything similar?

[jfehl]

Bumping for Amanda......


http://www.columbiatribune.com/2005/Nov/20051111News014.asp

[jfehl]

Just checking in. Still no news, I see. :(

[jfehl]

It's good to know they're still looking for Amanda. I hope this helps stir up some clues.


http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/stories.nsf/stlouiscitycounty/story/D90391B8076AB44E862570CB000EA528?OpenDocument&highlight=2%2C%22amanda%22+AND+%22jones%22

Sheriff asks Postal Service to help find missing woman Jefferson County Sheriff Oliver "Glenn" Boyer says he hopes a U.S. Postal Service program used in a missing-persons case in the Metro East area will help find a woman missing from Jefferson County for almost four months.

Boyer said he was asking the Postal Service to deliver handbills along with mail in Jefferson County to remind people that Amanda Jones of Pevely still is missing and to circulate a photo.

[BevAnn]

What a sad Christmas for this little girl that had her mommy and baby brother stolen away... :(

:rose: for Amanda


Bev Ann

[StlFan]

I live very close to Amanda - only one exit north of hers. There are notices in our local paper, the Jefferson County Leader about the award money and that she is missing.

All of the local businesses still have her poster up. I ask every time I go into them about her, if they have heard anything, etc. Most everyone has said "no" but that people are still talking.

I did hear that her uncle gets his haircut at the same barbershop that my husband and son does, but they havent heard anything.

Everytime I drive around Festus or Hillsboro, I get a "lonely, cold" feeling -- she's out there somewhere....and I can't stand it!

I know that the parents have been in the press talking about people not calling and asking what they can do, and I think that maybe I should call....but...I am a total stranger, and I wonder, what could I do?

Are there any of ya'll out there, locally, that want to go out and look with me, for clues?

[StlFan]

Come on all you people.

[StlFan]

Let us go out and look for Amanda.


The ones that are local, maybe can make a difference.

I want to make a differnce.....

[StlFan]

For the folks here in Jefferson County --- Lets organize a search.

[dalma3604]

Originally posted by StlFan
Let us go out and look for Amanda.


The ones that are local, maybe can make a difference.

I want to make a differnce.....


I'm sorry I can't be of help. I'm no where near there.

Praying Amanda & baby are found soon. :rose:

[2lakes]

Originally posted by StlFan
Let us go out and look for Amanda.


The ones that are local, maybe can make a difference.

I want to make a differnce.....

StlFan,
That is very kind of you to want to help. It doesn't seem like the family has had much support from the very beginning. I could not ever even find a website devoted to Amanda. It seems like that is something that the family usually does right away to posts updates and get the word out. It doesn't help that the media lost interest in this case right away.

Keep us posted if you are able to help. Maybe there is someone out there that has experience with web design that could create a webpage for Amanda. If I could I would but I am clueless when it comes to that.

[beastieboy]

I was wondering if there had been any news at all? any new leads? anything? ; - (

:rose:

*********

Praying that someone comes forward and gives Amanda's family the greatest gift for Christmas....the location of Amanda.

:(

[crazyhorse]

I cant help out on a search, I am too far away-but if I could get away to St.Louis I'd be there in a heartbeat!. This case needs MORE MEDIA!! it angers me that this investigation has stalled.

[adair]

Originally posted by StlFan
Come on all you people.

If i lived closer i would help...if there is anything i can do longdistance i will .... tell me what to do....

[adair]

There was a crime, horrible crime commited in July 97.

Darci Kayleen Pierce killed Cindy Lynn Ray for her baby.

The book is called Hush Little Baby.

Darci was so obsessed with having a baby, she had her husband, and her mother (who lived in another state) that she was preg.
She gained weight, dressed in materney clothes...had everyone fooled. (her husband did not go to one Ob appt with her).

The Readers Digest Condensed version goes like this.......
as
She tell her husband that the dr is going to induce on Friday, so that thurs b4 she talks a nurse into telling both her and her hubby the Dr has had an emergency and the dr want to induce next friday. (She is a military wife with not many friends and family far away).
So the next friday when she is to be induced again, that afternoon she talked a very preg Cindy into talking to her in her car ......i am not done with the book, but she takes Cindy and does a c section (with cindys keys).......Cindy dies.

Darci come up with this story that she delivered by the road side, Drs dont believe it, then she tells them she paid a surrogate...

LE gets to the truth....this book made me sick............

When i read this the book popped into my mind so i thought i would share it........wondering if LE has checked all the newborn babies in the whole usa!!!!

I pray for them their family...............

[adair]

I am really wondering why Laci Peterson got SO much coverage and Amanda is starting to fade from the news????

[kansas queen]

Originally posted by adair
I am really wondering why Laci Peterson got SO much coverage and Amanda is starting to fade from the news???? Because she was living the "American Dream" and the TH needed a distraction from the war in Iraq?

jmo, omo

[adair]

That is so Sad.

I thought that was the reason for lack of coverage too.

[jfehl]

Thinking of Amanda....wishing she could have been home for Christmas.

:rose:

[ErrinSpelling]

NG has Amanda's case on tonight!

[TobyTiger]

Originally posted by ErrinSpelling
NG has Amanda's case on tonight!

:lol: NG read the message board!

[ErrinSpelling]

Originally posted by TobyTiger


:lol: NG read the message board!

:D

[starling]

Originally posted by NancynNC
I saw NG with the story of Amanda and it sure looks like the father of the child and his gf know what happened to her.
Why do these things have to happen? There are other ways to handle situations and I do not understand anyone that sees murder as the only way out. Such a waste.

For Amanda Jones and her baby boy...:rose: :rose:

That photo of her at the church luncheon with her parents on the day she vanished..all dressed in hot pink with a HUGE smile. How sad is that?

I'm so glad they have the store video of her buying just a soda & hairspray.Exactly not stock piling supplies to run away...is it?
I wonder why the current g/f of this guy will not speak w LE...maybe she is involved. JMO


Heartbreaking case

[TobyTiger]

Originally posted by starling


That photo of her at the church luncheon with her parents on the day she vanished..all dressed in hot pink with a HUGE smile. How sad is that?

I'm so glad they have the store video of her buying just a soda & hairspray.Exactly not stock piling supplies to run away...is it?
I wonder why the current g/f of this guy will not speak w LE...maybe she is involved. JMO


Heartbreaking case

There are two people who would want Amanda and her baby out of the way: the father of the child (who wants nothing to do with the baby) and his girlfriend (who apparently has been with him for some time)...has anyone looked into who the girlfriend knows who may have assisted HER in "disposing of" Amanda? I am not seeing any abduction/murder by a "stranger" in this case at all.

[crazyhorse]

I am with you TobyTiger-This case doesnt have the 'feel' of a stranger abduction. The circumstances around Amanda's disappearence seem to point to the last person who saw her, the sperm donor. Also, the sperm donor's girlfriend is highly suspect as well, another point I agree with. Its not unheard of if both of them were behind Amanda's disappearence.

I was glad to see Amanda's case on NG, there has not much media coverage on her case.

[TobyTiger]

Originally posted by crazyhorse
I am with you TobyTiger-This case doesnt have the 'feel' of a stranger abduction. The circumstances around Amanda's disappearence seem to point to the last person who saw her, the sperm donor. Also, the sperm donor's girlfriend is highly suspect as well, another point I agree with. Its not unheard of if both of them were behind Amanda's disappearence.

I was glad to see Amanda's case on NG, there has not much media coverage on her case.


And so much trouble for them (sperm donor & gf) to go through to "eliminate and dispose of" Amanda because he didn't want anything to do with his "one night stand" and baby. Amanda seemed to be content to have and raise the baby herself from what I saw - had the nursery set up and a welcome baby sign with Hayden's name...

WHY DO THIS to her???

[jfehl]

Geez! When I saw this thread so high up, I thought maybe Amanda had been found. I'm so glad Nancy Grace featured her case. Maybe it will stir up someone who knows something. Maybe Amanda and her little one will get to come home soon.

:rose: :rose:

[TobyTiger]

Originally posted by Veracity
Here are my questions;

Does "girlfriend" work? Where?
Is this "live in girlfriend"?

If no, where does she live? If yes, since when? Where was home before?

And finally WHERE WAS "GIRLFRIEND" from the last time anyone (other than the father of her baby) saw her to when she was reported missing?

I had one other question - does "girlfriend" have any prior dealings with the police or the court system??

JUST THINKING OUTLOUD!

All I heard about the girlfriend was what Amanda's parents said last night on NG: that the girlfriend "wasn't new, she was someone he knew before" (or could have still been with when he got Amanda pregnant). Would be nice to hear she's being investigated also.

Just think, she and her beautiful baby Hayden are up in Heaven dancing and having a good time with Laci and baby Connor! :rose: :rose: RIP and may that evil man who fathered your child be brought to justice!!!!! :flamemad: MOO JMO IMO TMO!!!!!!!!!!

[TobyTiger]

Originally posted by Boxing Helena
Just think, she and her beautiful baby Hayden are up in Heaven dancing and having a good time with Laci and baby Connor! :rose: :rose: RIP and may that evil man who fathered your child be brought to justice!!!!! :flamemad: MOO JMO IMO TMO!!!!!!!!!!

You have to keep that frame of mind with these types of cases...otherwise it is just too heartbreaking.

[adair]

Originally posted by crazyhorse
I am with you TobyTiger-This case doesnt have the 'feel' of a stranger abduction. The circumstances around Amanda's disappearence seem to point to the last person who saw her, the sperm donor. Also, the sperm donor's girlfriend is highly suspect as well, another point I agree with. Its not unheard of if both of them were behind Amanda's disappearence.

I was glad to see Amanda's case on NG, there has not much media coverage on her case.

Does anyone know if LE checked for Amanda's fingerprints inside the womens bathroom at the civic center??

IF that building was empty (sprm dnr) had to unlock it for Amanda to use right? It would have been easy for him to have someone in there ready to ambush her.............I hope not, but your mind goes to everywhere looking for answers.

RIP Amanda and baby Hayden! ~ :rose: :rose: :rose:

[jfehl]

Just checking in for any news. It's been so long since there's been anything.

:(

[IHitTheRoyal]

Bumping for Amanda.

Originally posted by IHitTheRoyal
Bumping for Amanda. Bank every dollar you have and can for the next year and you will have hit the royal 10 times.

[IHitTheRoyal]

Originally posted by JB on the loose
Bank every dollar you have and can for the next year and you will have hit the royal 10 times.

If I were only that smart... ;)

[mendara]

Originally posted by kansas queen
Because she was living the "American Dream" and the TH needed a distraction from the war in Iraq?

jmo, omo

you have to be kidding about a distraction about the war right???

Laci got more attention because it was just crazy that a perfect marriage was not so perfect it was like a movie people ate it up.

[crazyhorse]

Yes, I too am disheartened by the fact that Amanda Jone's case isint on the National News nightly like Laci Petersen's was. She was also just weeks/days away from giving birth when she disappeared, like Laci. Please let Amanda be found!

http://www.ksdk.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=91146

[Justins Mom]

RIGHT UP RT 55 AND ACROSS THE POND AND A LITTLE NORTH.
ANY GUESSTIMATION ABOUT DISTANCE FROM PEVELY TO BROOKLYN

EErie. But an autopsy or tests will tell if the victim was pregnant
Lets keep our eyes on this - too close for comfort.

[Justins Mom]

Noel Piper missing from Foley Mo is also not far from Brooklyn Illinois

[IHitTheRoyal]

I think it's almost certainly NOT Amanda, as the article states "Illinois State Police Lieutenant Greg Fernandez estimates the bones were there probably a year"...

[dulcinea]

I did a search to see how far it was between Pevely and Brooklyn. Two Brooklyns showed up in Illinois (two different counties). I'm not sure which one is the correct one, but the two distances the computer gave me where 28 miles and 135 miles.

As far as the officer estimating how long the remains have been there, it's a difficult thing to determine without an examination by an ME. There are so many factors and he's not trained for that sort of thing (at least from what I gathered). I'm not saying he's wrong, just leaving some room for caution. Officials have been proven to be WAY off on these types of things before. I don't think they are incompetent. Forensics are complicated.

[2lakes]

Hopefully the tests will provide closure for a family of a missing loved one.

[IHitTheRoyal]

You're right, the officer could be way off. For some reason, I do not think it's her... the absence (as far as we know) of fetal remains also makes me think that it's probably not her.

To be honest, I'm probably saying this because I really hope she is alive... but, of course, chances of that are slim to none.

I do also pray that whatever happens, the remains will be identified and a family can have some semblance of closure.

[IHitTheRoyal]

Originally posted by wadahoot


I really hate to bring this up, but there may not be fetal remains ... some nut could have wanted a baby, and left Amanda to die. Unfortunately, the prescient for this hidious crime has been set too many times. :(

Yes, I have considered this also. What a world we live in, that we'd even have to think about such a thing... somehow, though, I think that the father of her baby had something to do with her disappearance... and I don't get the feeling that he would have taken her baby.

JMO

Prayers for Amanda

[jfehl]

http://www.ksdk.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=91741

Amanda's been missing for 6 months. They're looking for results from some of the lab tests in the next week. I hope they get some answers.

Does anyone know if the remains in Brooklyn, Il have been identified?

[jfehl]

http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/stories.nsf/jeffersoncounty/story/626B565439187152862571120080C5EC?OpenDocument

[janna55]

Originally posted by jfehl
http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/stories.nsf/jeffersoncounty/story/626B565439187152862571120080C5EC?OpenDocument

This is so sad. Dad says he doesn't think about his other daughter, his thoughts are all tied up with Amanda. I can't imagine what these families go through. It's heartbreaking. And he thinks she's still alive and being held somewhere.

[Leanne Weich]

Originally posted by janna55


This is so sad. Dad says he doesn't think about his other daughter, his thoughts are all tied up with Amanda. I can't imagine what these families go through. It's heartbreaking. And he thinks she's still alive and being held somewhere.

I think Dad is holding onto false hope but, I dare say, in his position I'd do the same. One can try to imagine how you'd feel in the position of the family in these kinds of cases but, in all honesty, if you haven't been there, I don't think we can honestly imagine what it is like.

Why would this guy meet a very pregnant woman at that secluded Civic Center? Why not meet at a coffee shop or mall where she could relax and be comfortable? I find it very strange he would ask her to meet at this odd place. I heard they had had no contact with each other and he called her out of the blue and asked to meet to talk about things. Most guys would take you out to dinner or at least out for coffee to discuss something this important. Or why not discuss it over the phone? I also found it to be odd that her baby was due on the same day of the biggest fair day which this guy was heavily involved with his cattle and stuff. Was he afraid he would miss his big day at the fair or afraid she would come to the fair pregnant and embarass him or afraid to be seen in public with her? I also can't imagine a guy leaving a very pregnant woman in that area alone....you would think he would stick around to make sure she got on her way okay. I'm also wondering why the car was unlocked but yet her purse and keys are gone. If she was going somewhere she would lock the car. If she wasn't going anywhere but to get out to talk to this guy why get your purse and keys out of the car? When I was this pregnant I was miserable and I definitely would not haul my purse as large as the one she had with her out of the car unless I had to. I saw somewhere that they had to let her inside the Civic Center to use the restroom......did somebody else unlock the door or was it the father of the baby that unlocked it? If it was somebody else does anybody know if they checked this guy out? I'm sure they did, but I just feel she was lured here.......it upsets me that so many women die ONLY because they are pregnant. It is sad that trying to bring a new baby into this world can get you killed and I read somewhere that having a baby with a guy that doesn't WANT a baby is very high up on the leading causes list of things that kills women...versus heart disease, etc. It was something like the leading causes of death to women were heart disease, breast cancer, and homicide due to them being pregnant and the Dad doesn't want the baby. Very sad!

God bless you Amanda and Baby!

[Justins Mom]

One question, perhaps I'be missed it...
Was DNA done to determine if he was the father?

I dont believe the he called out of the blue, either.

I also wonder about financials. I see she wanted him to play a part in a childs life.

Over and over I see people hooking up, having children and moms go missing, babies are killed.

[2lakes]

Originally posted by PrayN4U
Why would this guy meet a very pregnant woman at that secluded Civic Center? Why not meet at a coffee shop or mall where she could relax and be comfortable? I find it very strange he would ask her to meet at this odd place. I heard they had had no contact with each other and he called her out of the blue and asked to meet to talk about things. Most guys would take you out to dinner or at least out for coffee to discuss something this important. Or why not discuss it over the phone? I also found it to be odd that her baby was due on the same day of the biggest fair day which this guy was heavily involved with his cattle and stuff. Was he afraid he would miss his big day at the fair or afraid she would come to the fair pregnant and embarass him or afraid to be seen in public with her? I also can't imagine a guy leaving a very pregnant woman in that area alone....you would think he would stick around to make sure she got on her way okay. I'm also wondering why the car was unlocked but yet her purse and keys are gone. If she was going somewhere she would lock the car. If she wasn't going anywhere but to get out to talk to this guy why get your purse and keys out of the car? When I was this pregnant I was miserable and I definitely would not haul my purse as large as the one she had with her out of the car unless I had to. I saw somewhere that they had to let her inside the Civic Center to use the restroom......did somebody else unlock the door or was it the father of the baby that unlocked it? If it was somebody else does anybody know if they checked this guy out? I'm sure they did, but I just feel she was lured here.......it upsets me that so many women die ONLY because they are pregnant. It is sad that trying to bring a new baby into this world can get you killed and I read somewhere that having a baby with a guy that doesn't WANT a baby is very high up on the leading causes list of things that kills women...versus heart disease, etc. It was something like the leading causes of death to women were heart disease, breast cancer, and homicide due to them being pregnant and the Dad doesn't want the baby. Very sad!

God bless you Amanda and Baby!

It most circumstances it would have seemed like a strange place to meet but he worked at the civic center so I'm sure it didn't seem odd to her at the time that he asked her to meet him there. From that I don't know what his motives were. I don't think there was a fair going on at the time though. It was probably pretty quiet around there. (That may have been part of his plan)

Her Mom said that her daughter and the baby's Dad didn't have any contact throughout the pregnancy, but that he called out of the blue that Sunday and they agreed to meet after she got out of church. She reportedly told her Mom she was only meeting him to see to what degree he wanted to take part (if any) in the baby's life. I heard he already asked her to have an abortion early in the pregnancy and she said no. Obviously it's too late to have one now so I don't think he met her to ask her to do that again, but I'm wondering if he told her he didn't want any part of the baby and they might have fought over that and/or child support and he hurt her. Even if he worked at the place they met it is still secluded so I still find it weird that they met there at that hour instead of having coffee or something. I just felt he lured her there for a reason. And no there wasn't a fair on that day, but I was saying the biggest fair day was ON her due date so that may have played a part in his anger. Maybe he was afraid he would not be at the fair to do his job and people would find out he was at the hospital having a baby......was he in another relationship that he was hiding this baby from? And somebody asked about DNA and whether he was really the Dad or not...does anybody know the answer to this? It wouldn't be the first time a baby and Mom had been killed due to mistaken identity of the actual biological father which is even more upsetting because if the mistake wouldn't have been made you wonder if they would be killed or not. Maybe the REAL Dad of the baby would WANT the baby and they would both still be alive.

[jfehl]

Bumping for Amanda :rose:

I hope he burns in hell....this is a crying shame and too often it happens

[spanky]

i've always had a bad feeling about this case...

in one of the earlier articles of this case the town of Festus, Mo was mentioned...well it was hit hard by thunderstorms and tornadoes this weekend....if anything happened to her..maybe this will bring some clues to the surface...

:rose:

[BevAnn]

:rose: bumping for Amanda and baby...

Bev Ann

[jfehl]

When I saw this thread so high up, I was hoping there might be some news. This is so frustrating.....:(

[jfehl]

Thinking of you and your little one today, Amanda..... :rose:

[BevAnn]

Sorry jfehl! I hate to bump for that very reason!! But then I hate to see these poor lost people getting moved to back pages...so sad. This is one of those that has really stuck with me. Funny how some hit home more than others. I guess it's because I'm not too far from her, and am only a little older than her and have kids too. And it just reminds me of Scott Peterson too, and that case - well, I was addicted to it!

Anyway, I hope, really hope, for closure sake, the bones found in St Charles Co are hers....and I hope LE can then focus on that sperm donor....he's alllll wrapped up in this one. JMHO of course.

Bev Ann

[jfehl]

I'm with you, BevAnn. I really want to see Amanda come home. She touches my heart. I think because....and this is not meant to be disrespectful at all...she's not the perky/pretty type like Laci P. She's just your average small town "girl" who was waiting happily to have her baby...a little on the large size....not unattractive, but sort of average....I think what gets to me is that she reminds me of myself. I don't want her forgotten either.

I think that it is unrealistic to expect Amanda to be found alive with her beautiful little baby boy. Again, like you, I really hope the bones are hers, so her family can move on....cherishing her memory.

And I too believe Westfall is in this up to his eyeballs.

For Amanda and her family :rose:

For all the people on this board who care :rose:

[2lakes]

Perhaps the bones recovered earlier this month could be those of Amanda. The bones were discovered in West Alton which is approx. an hour from where Amanda was from. The route is Interestate 70 almost the entire distance.

http://boards.courttv.com/showthread.php?threadid=261266

http://www.mapquest.com/directions/main.adp?go=1&do=nw&rmm=1&un=m&cl=EN&ct=NA&rsres=1&1ffi=&1l=&1g=&1pl=&1v=&1n=&2ffi=&2l=&2g=&2pl=&2v=&2n=&1pn=&1a=&1c=west+alton&1s=mo&1z=&2pn=&2a=&2c=foley&2s=mo&2z=&r=f

[2lakes]

http://www.mapquest.com/directions/main.adp?go=1&do=nw&rmm=1&un=m&cl=EN&ct=NA&rsres=1&1ffi=&1l=&1g=&1pl=&1v=&1n=&2ffi=&2l=&2g=&2pl=&2v=&2n=&1pn=&1a=&1c=festus&1s=mo&1z=&2pn=&2a=&2c=west+alton&2s=mo&2z=&r=f

I did the wrong town. It should have been Festus & I searched Foley (another missing girl). This distance would have been easy access from both towns.

[tiny paw-prints]

:rose: For Amanda, her Family & Friends

[jfehl]

http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/stories.nsf/jeffersoncounty/story/BF5D621AA6650E42862571630014E5BF?OpenDocument

Nothing really new here. Family and friends will be holding a prayer vigil to mark the 9 month anniversary of Amanda's disappearance.

:rose:

[KittyMom]

KSDK NewsChannel 5 (http://www.ksdk.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=96308)

How sad. They have to sell her house, car, and some personal items for financial reasons. Bless their hearts, that has to really hurt. Like saying goodbye everytime they sell something.

:rose:

[Luckys_Wife]

Thats awful.........my prayers for Amanda and her Family...:rose:

[starling]

I honestly can not understand how a person can kill & throw a person away and carry on w/out missing a beat in their own life.
I'm not big on haunting - but if haunting does indeed exist -I hope it is put upon these people who feel their own charade is more important than a loved one being able to lay their family member or friend to rest.

Just disgusting how many precious souls are still out there
:rose:

[jfehl]

Nothing new here....I just couldn't let Amanda disappear to the back page.

Has anyone heard anything new about the bones found in the nearby town? I haven't been able to find anything new on them either.

For Amanda :rose:

[jfehl]

Originally posted by jfehl
Nothing new here....I just couldn't let Amanda disappear to the back page.

Has anyone heard anything new about the bones found in the nearby town? I haven't been able to find anything new on them either.

For Amanda :rose:

Missed the Editing time...just found this. Bones have been ID'ed

47 yo local man, missing since August 2005, postal worker, family said he had contemplated suicide


http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/stories.nsf/stcharles/story/B48F8022BB3C9AEA8625717900175486?OpenDocument

Police said Wednesday that the body is that of Lawrence G. Gray, 47, of the 2100 block of Hungerford Drive. Authorities do not suspect foul play in the case.

:rose: :rose:

[txfemale45]

Well if the guy she went to meet is the guilty party, he did a good job i just hope he knows that most people don't get away with it forever and it must not feel too good looking over his shoulder..

[Luckys_Wife]

I can't understand why they haven't arrested this guy yet? He was the last one to see her alive, she was meeting him to discuss thier baby which he did not want (according to previous posts) and he's not really concerned that his unborn baby and mother of his child is missing..........yeah he did it! IMOO

[txfemale45]

They maybe waiting for him and his girlfriend to breakup and then she will talk to the cops, they love a woman scorned

[crazyhorse]

a week ago I srayed overnight in a motel off of I-44, in Stanton MO (I think!) and on the early morning news 8/1 was a story saying that a psychic contacted LE and said that Amanda was contacting the psychic from the otherside. The psychic said the baby boy was alive and well but Amanda had passed on. Anyone else hear about this?

[dalma3604]

A year later and still no clue.......so sad.

:rose:

[findcarrie]

From everyone @ FindCarrie, we are sending our thoughts and prayers to Amanda's family today on this one year anniversary of Amanda's disappearance. Hoping that she can be located soon. She's still missing but NOT forgotten.

:rose: :rose: :rose:

[beastieboy]

For Amanda

[dalma3604]

Nothing new?

:rose:

[PNut]

omg ya'll!! I got tears!! That just absolutely BREAKS my heart!! The daughter is with the dad - so the grandparents don't get to see her very often I'm sure! So, they lost their daughter, their unborn grandson AND their granddaughter. oh it's just AWFUL!! And then to have to sell all her things...the trailer had a nursery with clothes and diapers. To have to let all that go. oh my God I just can't imagine. :( It's just the most awful thing. Please Lord let this family have SOME sort of relief soon!!!

[BobbisAngel]

I have followed this case since Amanda went missing and it just breaks my heart. I was so hoping that she was alright and would be coming home.

My heart breaks for her parents and her little girl. To go day after day and not know where your daughter/mother is has to be the hardest thing. I remember hearing Amanda's dad just cry during an interview and it just made my heart hurt. No one can imagine the depth of that pain unless you have been there.

I don't have a doubt at all that Bryan Westfall is the killer. It wouldn't surprise me to find out that his girlfriend is responsible too. She got a attorney right off the bat and refused to take a poly! Why would she need an attorney? If she is just the girlfriend and not involved that sounds awful strange to me.

I have asked and asked if LE took cadaver dogs out to Bryan and his parent's property. If they just went out there and looked around I'm not surprised that they didn't find anything.

I read about the psychic saying that the baby was alive. I wonder if there have been any adoptions in Westfalls town in the last nine months. Do any of you remember that when Bryan called Amanda he told her that a couple in a red car had told him that they were trying to contact Amanda? It never did make any sense to me and Amanda had told her parents that she didn't know a couple in a red car and especially that would have contacted Bryan to get ahold of her. I just wonder what that was all about. Bryan was nothing to Amanda but a sperm donar. They hadn't even had any contact. I don't know why he couldn't have just left her alone. She didn't want anything from him. He was probably afraid that she would try to get support from him after the baby came.

I just hope that the police can nail this guy. They have to be looking at him as a suspect. Who else would have a motive but him. Prayers to Amanda's family. I just feel so bad for them.

[jfehl]

Bumping for Amanda :rose:

[findcarrie]

:rose: For Amanda. She's still missing but not forgotten.
In fact, that goes for all these people on this forum who are still missing.

[ferretplay]

Originally posted by ErrinSpelling
On Dan Abrams: Father of baby described a red car, with a couple,who went to his home & told him, to call Amanda.Then he calls Amanda & asks to meet her at Civic Center.
No one knows, who this couple is...(it sounds like a made-up couple to me.)

Mrs. Probst (mother) said Amanda is due between 8/22 & 8/27.
:rose: For Amanda & her family.
This story is SO ridiculous.Sure,a couple is going to come to his home & have him call Amanda?????He doesn't know their names?
I think he killed her inside the building & then took her body to remote woods.Is he an outdoors man? Does he hunt or fish in any woods he would know roads to?
Quite convient for him,after having nothing to do with her for nine months,right before baby is born.He happens to call her for a lunch date?????Where did they go to lunch,yah right. She disappears & he is the last one to see her & was there with her. Give me a break!!! He was a PIG in the first place & then planned premeditated murder.If he didn't kill her,then he is the most unlucky guy in the world.Not to see her for nine months,then call & meet her.Ends up being last person to see her.OKAY.MHO

[BobbisAngel]

Originally posted by ferretplay

:rose: For Amanda & her family.
This story is SO ridiculous.Sure,a couple is going to come to his home & have him call Amanda?????He doesn't know their names?
I think he killed her inside the building & then took her body to remote woods.Is he an outdoors man? Does he hunt or fish in any woods he would know roads to?
Quite convient for him,after having nothing to do with her for nine months,right before baby is born.He happens to call her for a lunch date?????Where did they go to lunch,yah right. She disappears & he is the last one to see her & was there with her. Give me a break!!! He was a PIG in the first place & then planned premeditated murder.If he didn't kill her,then he is the most unlucky guy in the world.Not to see her for nine months,then call & meet her.Ends up being last person to see her.OKAY.MHO



I always thought that the red car story was a bunch of bull but why would he bother to tell Amanda that? It doesn't even make sense does it? If he didn't know the people in the red car how would they know where to find him? Amanda said it didn't ring a bell with her. Maybe that was something that Bryan's girlfriend told him to say.

If Bryan and his parents have a lot of property then you know there are probably a lot of areas in which to dump a body. Probably lots of woods. I don't know if he is an outdoors person but I do think he is a killer. I think that his girlfriend was involved too. Maybe she didn't go with him to the civic center but I think she was involved at some point. Of course we don't know who met Amanda at the civic center.

It seems that Bryan told LE that they ended just sitting in the car and talking and didn't go to lunch. Figures. He was probably to cheap to pay for lunch. I think that Amanda got into his vehicle but they didn't go to lunch. She just thought that was where they were driving to. He probably drove to the woods or they met his girlfriend somewhere and then the murder took place.

I wonder if LE ever checked his car or truck over for fingerprints, blood, hair, etc? He says that they didn't go to lunch...that they stayed at the civic center and talked for an hour...I believe. So, there would have been no reason for Amanda's hair, blood or anything else to be in his vehicle. She would never have been in it before that day.

I'll bet Bryan and his girlfriend think that they have gotten away with murder. I hope that is not true.

[txfemale45]

I know of one case almost like this one and LE went to the boyfriends friends & family and asked if he liked a certain location or showed alot of interest and the found her body in this large hole that was in the woods that he was fasinated with

[Erin023]

Still thinking of Amanda

Any new updates???

[cleo718]

Just checking in to see if any news. I see there's not.

Amanda
:rose:

[RebelAngel]

:rose:
For Amanda & Hayden

[landlady]

:rose: for amanda hayden and all her loved ones...... to me the sp did it defenatley it is so just obvious to anyone who reads the story...bet he thinks he is clever......but one day just you wait and see you or your girlfriend will slip up and i cant wait for that day...evil person !!!! just my honest opinion...

[UM&AMWfan]

Originally posted by crazyhorse
Yes, I too am disheartened by the fact that Amanda Jone's case isint on the National News nightly like Laci Petersen's was. She was also just weeks/days away from giving birth when she disappeared, like Laci. Please let Amanda be found!

The real reason why Amanda Jones is not getting the attention that Laci Peterson did is not because it was a perfect marriage but it's because Laci was attractive and Amanda is not.

If Laci looked like Amanda then Laci would not have gotten anywhere near the publicity she did.

As proof of this look at all the cases of missing women who have gotten national attention. Natalee Holloway, Chandra Levy, Laci Peterson, etc. All of them are attractive and no one looking like Amanda Jones has gotten national coverage.

That is not right but that's just the way it is.

It seems to me that the boyfriend (sperm donor?) looks awfully suspicious and I'm suprised he hasn't been named a suspect. Amanda's dad has actually said that he is suspicious of him.

That arrangement that Amanda had with him is just bizarre.