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Serendipitous1
04-14-2009, 11:25 AM
This is a pdf: Attention as much a mystery as the missing person case (http://www.pennsylvaniamissing.com/images/NancyArticle.pdf), by Greg Bock, Altoona Mirror, 5/15/05. To get the html version, Google the title.

"Gricar is the first missing person's case of its kind in the borough, [Zaccagni] said. The last case in the area, now a state police investigation, is of Brenda Louise Condon."

The article is archived on the Pennsylvania Missing Persons web site (http://www.pennsylvaniamissing.com/homepage.html). RG is not listed there.

J. J. in Phila
04-14-2009, 03:26 PM
RFG's home computer had searches on how to destroy a hard drive, including one specifically for water damage:

http://www.centredaily.com/news/local/story/1228044.html

Politigal
04-15-2009, 10:34 AM
http://www.collegian.psu.edu/archive/2009/04/15/police_release_computer_data.aspx

It seems strange, a frustrated Tony Gricar said, that his uncle would use another computer to complete the searches on wiping hard drives without going to great lengths to hide his actions.

Politigal
04-15-2009, 11:35 AM
a little tidbit they left out of the initial article:

http://www.centredaily.com/news/breaking_news/story/1229820.html

As for authorities, Bellefonte Police Detective Matthew Rickard said, “This information is very important to the investigation. It, in and of itself, focuses on the possibility of walkaway or suicide. However, it certainly does not eliminate the possibility of homicide.”

Serendipitous1
04-15-2009, 04:40 PM
Investigators from several agencies continue to pursue the PSP-CIA Unit's recommendations from 2006.

RG's salary and pension are still sitting in the county's treasury. Nothing has been dispersed yet.

TG stated that he has nothing new to report, and that he has not heard from MM or the BPD in over a year.

http://www.lockhaven.com/page/content.detail/id/509910.html?nav=5009

Serendipitous1
04-15-2009, 07:10 PM
SW defends the way his department has handled the investigation (http://wearecentralpa.com/content/fulltext/news/?cid=81841).

Serendipitous1
04-15-2009, 08:18 PM
More from BB on why he feels this new information adds to his theory that RG was murdered (http://www.dailyitem.com/0100_news/local_story_105102040.html).

And an O/T article of general interest on this particular day. Quiet, solo protest ends in rescue from cold Susquehanna (http://www.dailyitem.com/0100_news/local_story_105110929.html)

Serendipitous1
04-15-2009, 09:04 PM
BB questions why now, saying politics played a role (http://www.wqkx.com/1070_WKOK/WKOK_local_news.htm).

Serendipitous1
04-16-2009, 12:16 AM
There are presently 100 threads (on 4 pages) which can be accessed by changing the "Show Threads" field from "Last Month" (the default) to "Beginning"...down at the bottom of the thread index...or just click here (http://boards.insessiontrials.com/forumdisplay.php?s=&f=127&page=1&pp=25&sort=lastpost&order=desc&daysprune=-1).

Serendipitous1
04-16-2009, 09:37 AM
Union County DA expected to be informed of any development in the case (http://www.dailyitem.com/0100_news/local_story_106071516.html), since Gricar was last seen in his jurisdiction.

Police have known the 'new' information for years (http://www.collegian.psu.edu/archive/2009/04/16/police_knew_of_evidence.aspx), adding to the difficulties the family faces.

Politigal
04-16-2009, 02:03 PM
the "other" blog

http://www.centredaily.com/personas/?insiteUserId=42b7493266ca459ce19862373a353ed1-17129&plckPersonaPage=PersonaBlog&plckUserId=42b7493266ca459ce19862373a353ed1-17129

Serendipitous1
04-17-2009, 09:09 AM
Candidates vow to find missing DA (http://www.collegian.psu.edu/archive/2009/04/17/candidates_vow_to_find_missing.aspx)

2-B
04-20-2009, 01:14 AM
Candidates answer questions:

http://www.centredaily.com/423/story/1235537.html

[no specific Gricar questions but answers will interest Gricar forum members]

Politigal
04-21-2009, 10:57 AM
Defense doubts Madeira's word that no deals were made with Starr. Starr was released from a 20 month sentence after serving only 2 months...

http://www.centredaily.com/news/local/story/1239822.html

Politigal
04-23-2009, 05:02 PM
CBICC Business Before Hours Featuring DA Candidates
WhenWed, April 29, 8:00am – 9:30am
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Description Are you interested in the District Attorney race? Do you have questions for the candidates? Would you like to hear what they have to say? Register now to hear Karen Arnold, Tony DeBoef, Mike Madeira & Stacy Parks Miller present an informative forum. Moderator: John Dillon, Senior Lecturer Penn State University College of Communications Cost: $13.00 per member or $25.00 per prospective member/guest Please register for this event on or before Friday, April 24. If you register for this event and later decide that you can not attend, please cancel your reservation four business days before the event or you will be invoiced.

http://www.cbicc.org/events/index.aspx?secID=6&mid=0&smid=0

Politigal
04-27-2009, 10:17 AM
DA candidates identify their top priorities

http://www.centredaily.com/news/local/story/1249725.html

Serendipitous1
05-02-2009, 06:55 PM
~ Memory Lane ~ (http://web.archive.org/web/20050414075912/county.centreconnect.org/221.htm)

Serendipitous1
05-04-2009, 05:20 PM
Some early articles (http://www.forumforfree.com/forums/a/district-attorney-ray-f-gricarpa_post147-assistall.html?mforum=assistall), including one perhaps not previously referenced (by EN, CDT, 5/7/05, "Missing: Small-town calm, Ray Gricar's disappearance has plunged police into media frenzy").

Politigal
05-05-2009, 12:47 PM
http://www.forumforfree.com/forums/a/district-attorney-ray-f-gricarpa_post147-assistall.html?mforum=assistall

At first, police didn't think Gricar's failure to return home was too alarming, officers said.

Cpl. Dan Holliday called the chief about an hour after Gricar's girlfriend and housemate, Patty Fornicola, called to report the prosecutor missing. Dixon told Holliday to send a message to local law enforcement agencies and said he'd call for an update the next morning.

Officer Darrel Zaccagni, one of two investigators on the case, said he first heard about Gricar's disappearance when he got to work Saturday morning. He said he thought little of it, figuring that maybe "Ray was off doing something, that he just didn't come home for whatever reason."


Gricar was the chief law enforcement office in the county...having prosecuted numerous criminals.

Patty waited until 11:30pm to phone police when he hadn't come home. Holliday then waited til after midnight before he phoned Dixon. And per the statement above - "police didn't think Gricar's failure to return home was too alarming."

Did Patty give them the impression that it wasn't alarming or serious? We've been told she was frantically calling his cellphone over & over, that she phoned her brother, etc. Wouldn't you think that *she* would have let police know how concerned *she* was?

Why was RG's absence not looked at as suspicious from the get-go? (At that early stage, his previous Cleveland trip wasn't a factor known by police.)

J. J. in Phila
05-07-2009, 10:48 AM
Grand Jury in the LM situation.

http://www.centredaily.com/news/local/story/1273895.html

Politigal
05-12-2009, 01:18 AM
First, Madeira withholds evidence .... and now this

http://www.centredaily.com/news/breaking_news/story/1282173.html

Judge says Madeira 'sent message' he wanted a deal for witness

J. J. in Phila
05-16-2009, 09:31 AM
Article on the DA's race:

http://www.centredaily.com/news/local/story/1292276.html

Politigal
05-18-2009, 01:24 PM
http://www.centredaily.com/politics-local/

Politigal
05-18-2009, 01:29 PM
J Karen Arnold's message to Democrats...well worth the read

http://arnoldforda.org/8.html

J. J. in Phila
05-22-2009, 01:29 AM
The Primary results, for a quick reference.

http://tiny.cc/1Frro

7psig
06-25-2009, 10:37 PM
I tried to find this here but I didn't see it. It's Lara on the Early Show before she flew home. http://cnettv.cnet.com/daughter-missing-d/9742-1_53-50040377.html

Politigal
07-01-2009, 11:48 AM
Judge dismisses some claims against Lance Marshall (former ADA)

http://www.centredaily.com/news/local/story/1375367.html

Politigal
07-17-2009, 02:18 AM
DA candidates gearing up with new & improved websites:

www.parksmillerforda.net

www.madeiraforda.com

Politigal
07-23-2009, 12:21 PM
more on the suit against the county/Marshall & Madeira

http://www.collegian.psu.edu/archive/2009/07/20/county_wants_out_of_harassment.aspx

and Madeira loses another case

http://www.collegian.psu.edu/archive/2009/07/23/remaining_charge_dismissed.aspx

Politigal
07-31-2009, 11:29 AM
Rogers hearing postponed

http://www.collegian.psu.edu/archive/2009/07/31/news_in_brief_239.aspx

Politigal
08-03-2009, 02:46 AM
http://politigal.googlepages.com/lewisburg

Politigal
08-06-2009, 01:08 AM
former Bellefonte Police Chief - Duane Dixon

comments on JJ's blog on the CDT

http://www.centredaily.com/personas/?plckPersonaPage=PersonaComments&plckUserId=42b7493266ca459ce19862373a353ed1-10211&insiteUserId=42b7493266ca459ce19862373a353ed1-10211&sid=pluck.centredaily.com

Politigal
08-19-2009, 02:25 PM
Madeira "failed to understand the law"....

http://www.centredaily.com/news/local/story/1458615.html

Politigal
08-20-2009, 02:16 AM
I realize there is already one CDT blog on the case of Ray Gricar, but I've begun another. I think a broader range of viewpoints is desperately needed there.

http://www.centredaily.com/personas/?plckPersonaPage=PersonaBlog&plckUserId=42b7493266ca459ce19862373a353ed1-20743&insiteUserId=42b7493266ca459ce19862373a353ed1-20743&sid=pluck.centredaily.com

Politigal
08-21-2009, 11:43 AM
Missing Site on Ray Gricar (with clickable details on the left)

note it includes that he did wear contact lens

http://www.findthemissing.org/cases/1982

Politigal
08-29-2009, 09:04 PM
CTV Gricar Archives

http://boards.insessiontrials.com/archive/index.php/f-127.html

gstickley
09-30-2009, 03:10 PM
This is an excellent website which is kept updated with information pertaining to Ray Gricar.

Ray Gricar - Centre County DA Is Still Missing
"District Attorney Ray Gricar Announces 2005 Retirement" ... Last Known Photo of Ray Gricar - 3/31/05 - At a Press Conference with Atty Gen ...
politigal.googlepages.com - 102k - Cached

Politigal
10-06-2009, 02:27 PM
corrected link for GStickley's post

(thanks GS)

http://sites.google.com/site/raygricar/home

sherrijean981
10-10-2009, 11:56 AM
http://www.centredaily.com/news/breaking_news/story/1558638.html

Politigal
10-10-2009, 02:07 PM
Ray Gricar would have been 64 yesterday

http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/kidnap/gricar_rf2.jpg

J. J. in Phila
10-18-2009, 07:59 PM
Here are a series of photos from Lewisburg:

http://picasaweb.google.com/LookingforRay

J. J. in Phila
11-05-2009, 08:37 AM
Some priorities of the DA-elect: http://www.centredaily.com/news/local/story/1610279.html?mi_pluck_action=comment_submitted&qwxq=8617416#Comments_Container

Politigal
11-07-2009, 01:09 AM
I finally figured out how to retrieve the old photos posted on Freerepublic back on 4/17/05 --- and here they are:

See Post #14 – posted Sunday 4/17/05 at 10:32 am by Tomkat on Freerepublic

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1385294/posts?page=14#14

Photo of the Street of Shops and parking

http://web.archive.org/web/20050506004016/http://24.137.12.6/tomkat/host/17apr05c.jpg

Photo of the Mini at the Milton barracks

http://web.archive.org/web/20050506004010/http://24.137.12.6/tomkat/host/17apr05a.jpg

Saunterer
11-07-2009, 04:29 PM
I finally figured out how to retrieve the old photos posted on Freerepublic back on 4/17/05 --- and here they are:

See Post #14 – posted Sunday 4/17/05 at 10:32 am by Tomkat on Freerepublic

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1385294/posts?page=14#14

Photo of the Street of Shops and parking

http://web.archive.org/web/20050506004016/http://24.137.12.6/tomkat/host/17apr05c.jpg

Photo of the Mini at the Milton barracks

http://web.archive.org/web/20050506004010/http://24.137.12.6/tomkat/host/17apr05a.jpgSecond photo of the SoS and parking:
http://web.archive.org/web/20050506012727/24.137.12.6/tomkat/host/17apr05b.jpg

Image of a road map from the same source:
http://web.archive.org/web/20050430043211/http://24.137.12.6/tomkat/_temp/lewisburg.jpg

Politigal
11-07-2009, 04:53 PM
Second photo of the SoS and parking:
http://web.archive.org/web/20050506012727/24.137.12.6/tomkat/host/17apr05b.jpg



this one is great because on the far right it shows the railroad bridge area where the hard drive was found

Politigal
11-19-2009, 02:46 AM
here's another link to the same video that might work better for some

http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=1633373n&tag=api