Carrie Culberson [msg. 1996]

[findcarrie]

I would like the whole world and those who see this limo drive up with Tracey Baker tomorrow that they are so advertising to know that this celebration is not one of an exoneration, it's one of the court having to let him out because he's served the maximum sentence they are able to give him when an investigation has been bungled.

Let us remember that the Culberson family will never be able to hug, write to or see Carrie again. We wont ever get the opportunity to drive the streets smiling with Carrie. We can only pray that some day it will be revealed where her remains are so that we may lay them from one cold and dark burial into another that gives her some dignity with a head stone.

We shall continue to put our faith in God Almighty because in the end he will be the final judge in all these horrible things we are made to witness and endure

[findcarrie]

man convicted of trying to cover up the murder of a Clinton County woman is now out of prison.

Tracey Baker of Blanchester was sentenced to eight years in 1998.

He was convicted of tampering with evidence in connection with the murder of Carrie Culberson.

Baker's half brother, Vince Doan, was Culberson's boyfriend.

Doan was convicted of murder and sentenced to life without parole.

Culberson's body has never been found.

Baker must report to a parole officer for one year.

http://www.whiotv.com/news/5003822/detail.html

[starling]

Originally posted by findcarrie
I would like the whole world and those who see this limo drive up with Tracey Baker tomorrow that they are so advertising to know that this celebration is not one of an exoneration, it's one of the court having to let him out because he's served the maximum sentence they are able to give him when an investigation has been bungled.

Let us remember that the Culberson family will never be able to hug, write to or see Carrie again. We wont ever get the opportunity to drive the streets smiling with Carrie. We can only pray that some day it will be revealed where her remains are so that we may lay them from one cold and dark burial into another that gives her some dignity with a head stone.

We shall continue to put our faith in God Almighty because in the end he will be the final judge in all these horrible things we are made to witness and endure

AMEN!!!!

:rose: for Carrie

[findcarrie]

Tracey Baker, convicted of obstruction of justice and tampering with evidence in the 1996 disappearance and death of Blanchester resident Carrie Culberson, was released from prison this week after completing an eight-year sentence.

Baker, the half-brother of Vincent Doan, who was convicted of kidnapping and killing Culberson, was released from the London Correctional Institution Tuesday, a spokeswoman for the Ohio Department of Rehabilitation and Correction said Wednesday.

Baker was released after he completed his sentence, the official said. He was given credit for 301 days he spent in jail before his conviction. He began serving his prison sentence on July, 21, 1998.

Culberson, 22, was last seen on Aug. 28, 1996. Her body was never found.

In August 1997, a Clinton County jury convicted Doan, who was Culberson's boyfriend, of kidnapping and aggravated murder for her death. Doan is serving a life sentence at the Southern Ohio Correctional Facility.

During the trial, prosecutors claimed Doan abused Culberson during their relationship and the physical assaults eventually led to her death.

Doan maintained he knew nothing about her disappearance.

A jury convicted Baker in June 1998 of helping Doan cover up Culberson's killing. Baker denied any knowledge of her disappearance.

http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050922/NEWS01/509220352/1056

[findcarrie]

Here is an article where Tracey was convicted back in 98. This gives a little more information on what he was convicted of.

http://www.enquirer.com/editions/1998/06/05/loc_baker05.html

[RebelAngel]

:flamemad: :cuss:
I saw this on the news last night......maybe he will slip up & help LE find out something.... too many criminals out among us, time served or not
Praying for Carrie's Loved ones!:rose:

[emmeblu]

:rose:

Thinking about Carrie and the Culberson family.

[findcarrie]

LIVING OUT LOUD: MISSING

The ghost of Carrie Culberson

By Heather Y. Miller

The first time I heard the name Carrie Culberson in August 1996, I was in the throws of planning my first wedding. I was too distracted to feel the full impact of what was happening in small-town Blanchester, but
over the years questions about what happened to her have haunted me.

I began to take a bigger interest in the case once my own personal drama died down and when the courtcase dominated the local media in 1997.
I related to Culberson. She was only three weeks older than I; we graduated from high school the same year. She was into fashion and tanning and getting her nails done. She fell for the wrong guy. She loved her clunky Doc Martins. Everything I read about her felt familiar, as though we could've hung out in the same circles.

Luckily, we had some differences too -- most notably that I've never been in a physically abusive relationship. Hearing Culberson's story made me realize how fortunate I am in that respect.

Initially, I hoped that the runaway theory would prove true and Culberson would re-appear at her home safe and sound. Once I started to hear the history of her relationship with Vincent Doan, however, I became
less optimistic.

When the trial began and the details of Culberson's last night were known, I knew she was dead. When Doan was convicted of her murder in June
1997, I was overjoyed. I'm still overjoyed that he didn't get away with it. I hope it sent a strong message to abusive assholes everywhere: Beat on a woman and you're going to jail.

In April and May last year, I held my breath and prayed that Culberson's remains would be found underneath the concrete floor of a barn in
Clinton County. The search began on April 30 and lasted for two weeks. Culberson wasn't found.

I hoped that the few items taken from the dig site would point the way to her location, but unfortunately no one is any closer to finding her.
Seeing the photos in the newspaper of Culberson's mom and sister, with looks of hope and anxiety on their faces, gave me a horrible feeling of heaviness. For a moment, it was almost as though I could feel the burden they carry every day.

Culberson has now been missing for over nine years.

I've wondered from time to time why this case affects me as it does. The first time I read the chronology of events that led up to and after Culberson's disappearance, I couldn't help but sob quietly at the grisly details surrounding her death. The eyewitness account of Doan beating her in a neighbor's front yard provides enough foreshadowing of the violence that ended her life.

The eyewitness testimony of Lori Baker is what makes me nauseous, though, stating that at around 3:45 a.m. Doan and his half-brother Tracey Baker left Baker's residence with garbage bags and a gun. They arrived back at the Baker residence at 6 a.m., covered in blood.

The thought I can't get out of my head -- what did they do to her? Was she dead by the time Doan arrived at his half-brother's house at 3:45 a.m. or was she just beaten unconscious? Or even worse, was she beaten
badly enough that she couldn't get help but was still alive and
conscious? Did they dispose of her body or kill her after they returned a second time? I try not to dwell on the thoughts too long; it's too horrible to recreate the gruesome possibilities of Culberson's last moments.

I sometimes pass by the sand volleyball place where she spent her last night alive, playing a volleyball game with friends. I can't drive past without thinking of her. I breathe a deep breath and, regardless of
what is going on in my life, I am grateful to be alive. Her spirit is a friendly one, one that reminds me that, while her life ended at 22, mine continues at 31. She reminds me of the time I still have left.

I hope at some point, Culberson's remains will be found. Until that time, I pray for her family and hope that at some point, someone's conscience will push them to let Culberson's family have the closure they
need. I hope that Culberson haunts those who know what happened to her.

http://www.citybeat.com/http://citybeat.com/2005-09-21/livingoutloud.shtml

[findcarrie]

I believe Doan's thread is under Cold Case BS. Please do not impersonate me or use variations of my name on this forum. Thanks

I am reading up on these posts and cannot believe that someone on here actually thinks these two are innocent. Jill I think you need a reality check. Another person making the killers victims, digusting.:no:

For Carrie, missing but not forgotten:rose:

We can only hope that for what ever reason one of the boys will start blabbing the truth since Tracey is out. Vince cause he's jealous/idiot or Tracey cause he's an idiot.

Originally posted by findcarrie


LOL what are you doing on here? :beer:
Ur supposed to be on our site ;)

Hey girl how are you??

I just hope Debbie is ok and doesn't have to see that creep!

is Tracey's mother the women the old man doan is married to?

let's try to ignore them.

For Carrie:rose: May she have peace and justice

Originally posted by lking26
let's try to ignore them.

For Carrie:rose: May she have peace and justice

I agree, I will ignore them.

Yes, may she and her family have peace and justice:rose:

[findcarrie]

bumping for Carrie.
The reason our family helps those who are missing. I'm still trying to find you. Rest peacefully wherever you may be, you are fondly remembered and will be found someday soon and laid to rest in a proper burial.

:rose: :rose: :rose:

I met a woman from Midland, Ohio last week. She says that the widespread opinion of the people in Midland is that Doan and Baker cut Carrie up and fed her to some hogs on a farm out there. Hopefully Doan soon sees the fruitlessness of his silence since he will never get out of prison and will finally give some closure to this tragedy.

[findcarrie]

Originally posted by ziggygirl
I met a woman from Midland, Ohio last week. She says that the widespread opinion of the people in Midland is that Doan and Baker cut Carrie up and fed her to some hogs on a farm out there. Hopefully Doan soon sees the fruitlessness of his silence since he will never get out of prison and will finally give some closure to this tragedy.

Ziggy,

That'd be pretty bad but we've heard that rumor before. There's so many things we've heard it's unreal. Someday as I've said before we will find out where Carrie is and if we are unable to retrieve her remains, we will at least learn what happened to her that night that group of people disposed of her. Something I will never give up on as long as I'm alive.

[oldshirley]

:rose:
God bless Carrie.
:rose:

Originally posted by findcarrie


Ziggy,

That'd be pretty bad but we've heard that rumor before. There's so many things we've heard it's unreal. Someday as I've said before we will find out where Carrie is and if we are unable to retrieve her remains, we will at least learn what happened to her that night that group of people disposed of her. Something I will never give up on as long as I'm alive.


That is an act that isn't even human. :flamemad:

[findcarrie]

Originally posted by ziggygirl



That is an act that isn't even human. :flamemad:

Well if you look at the people responsible, you'd probably expect something that brutal and inhumaine.
There'll be a special place in hell for each of them.

[findcarrie]

We are asking that everyone please ignore this person who finds it necessary to participate in the ongoing harassment of the friends and family of the victim.
I shall report this once again to the admin. This is another attempt to intimidate and harass due to the fact Doan has not been released from prison and somehow this is our fault.


"sad" - LOL

[oldshirley]

For Carrie :rose:

For findcarrie who has done a fabulous job of keeping Carrie's story on these boards so that maybe one day she can be brought home :rose:

For Carrie's mom :rose:

[RCOOKE]

Originally posted by findcarrie
We are asking that everyone please ignore this person who finds it necessary to participate in the ongoing harassment of the friends and family of the victim.
I shall report this once again to the admin. This is another attempt to intimidate and harass due to the fact Doan has not been released from prison and somehow this is our fault.


"sad" - LOL

It is very sad to see these folks harass Carrie's friends and family. If they really think Doan is innocent they should be working to clear him. Maybe they know that's a hopeless cause.

Hopefully someday the entire truth will come out and Carrie can return home. Even if it's just to for a memorial, she needs to come home.

Robert

[findcarrie]

Originally posted by RCOOKE


It is very sad to see these folks harass Carrie's friends and family. If they really think Doan is innocent they should be working to clear him. Maybe they know that's a hopeless cause.

Hopefully someday the entire truth will come out and Carrie can return home. Even if it's just to for a memorial, she needs to come home.

Robert

There is nothing worse in this life then losing somebody you love, finding out who is responsible, and having his group of people harass you 24-7 for something you had absolutely no participation in.
The bottom line here is that we know who is responsible for this. There's nobody else - no doubts. We just want her body for a proper burial. We dont know what triggered that rage that night, but we are not going to make excuses and look over it. We want her body home and we will not stop until that happens. You'll see me and my ever so repitious screen name everywhere until that happens,and probably afterwards.
This should not happen to any young woman. :flamemad:

[PCB50]

Amen findcarrie!

This is what We all want, bring them home and give our Loved Ones a proper burial.

When those of us with Missing KNOW that our Missing Loved Ones are dead and cannot even lay them to rest it becomes a Mission of the Possible even when those out here think it is impossible and tell us to move on.

EVERY Missing is Equal, just not in the Press or to some with judgmental ideas.

Forever in our Hearts!
Forever in our Minds!

[findcarrie]

Originally posted by IN Hope
Amen findcarrie!

This is what We all want, bring them home and give our Loved Ones a proper burial.

When those of us with Missing KNOW that our Missing Loved Ones are dead and cannot even lay them to rest it becomes a Mission of the Possible even when those out here think it is impossible and tell us to move on.

EVERY Missing is Equal, just not in the Press or to some with judgmental ideas.

Forever in our Hearts!
Forever in our Minds!

InHope,

We will locate Carrie and Karen Jo. I decided to take a stand for this cause and nothing is going to knock me down. Together we'll stand and find these answers because I have tunnel vision when it comes to this one particular goal.
These people depend on others to give them a voice. God knows, I've got enough mouth for several and I intend to use it. If it goes out, I'll get some cough drops till it heals ;)

[PCB50]

Dear Findcarrie!

RICOLA!!!!

I have plenty since we own 2 GNC's. Along with your voice, Kelly's, YoungShirly, McGregor, on and on and on,,,, and mine, as well as so many others here on board, not to forget those who do not visit CTV, WE WILL MAKE A STAND!

We do have to continue the good fight! Being a woman and with the many times others have tried to quiet Me, I just come back even stronger!

Karen Jo, Carrie, Kathy Fry, Brookley Louks,, April Wiss, Becky Marzo, Niqui McCowan, Jason Jowlkowski, Regina Bos, on and on and on too many Missing to continue and I am just at a loss with all their names.

I do want to add. Even when we have a Conviction without a body it breaks my heart when certain organizations decide to drop our Missing Loved Ones from their site just because we have the Murderer behind bars.

Our Loved Ones are Still Missing!

[oldshirley]

Originally posted by findcarrie


InHope,

We will locate Carrie and Karen Jo. I decided to take a stand for this cause and nothing is going to knock me down. Together we'll stand and find these answers because I have tunnel vision when it comes to this one particular goal.
These people depend on others to give them a voice. God knows, I've got enough mouth for several and I intend to use it. If it goes out, I'll get some cough drops till it heals ;)

I personally believe in karma and for those who have caused harm to your loved ones, I DO HONESTLY BELIEVE that what goes around comes around and one day karma will visit the ones responsible for Carrie and Karen's disappearance as well as the many other people who are missing.
jmo :rose:

[findcarrie]

August 28, 1996 caused time to stand still for Debra Culberson and those who cared about Carrie. There is no chance for birthdays, holidays, births, job promotions, basically all happy moments. She is left only to remember Carrie as she was at that time.
She is also unable to move on because Carrie's body is out there somewhere needing to be found. She has no dignity. She has no voice to call and say "mom, come get me, I need you".
The continous hell of not knowing where she is will never go away. It's even harder when when you've this rubbed in your face daily by the group who knows what happened and they are allowed to walk the streets and carry on life like it isnt a big deal.
We only have a "photograph" as they play on the fansite to remember a live human being who was murdered and cant even have a decent grave. We dont treat animals this way, why do we treat a human this way.
My personal feeling on this whole group is that their day comes and when it does, I hope they rot in eternal hell. You are right, what goes around comes around.

I wonder what would happen if Debbie Culberson confronted Doan in prison under the eye of a mediator? HBO has a documentary called "Confronting Evil" where victims or victims familys confront the person that caused them pain and life altering evil. The victims seemed to get some kind of closure. Thoughts?

[findcarrie]

ZIggy,

I can tell you what he'd do. Well nooooooo maaaaam, I aint got nothing to do with her disappearance.
That's if he even accepted the interview. He's been coached as to what to say and when.
Nobody has ever denied Doan was not a police person, but there is another side. She'll tell you that.

[CJMMAMA07]

Has anyone ever looked into a public funded Television station, that would keep the missing in our face 24/7?

Stories of the missing 24/7

Many of these people could be walking among us daily, just like Elizabeth Smart.

I don't watch much television anymore, but this would be a channel I would watch.

I did see the story of Carrie on television this past weekend, I think it was on CTV.

[findcarrie]

I just wanted to invite everybody who is on this thread that if you are in GA to come join our group, Beth Holloway, Texas Equusearch, and Sar 911 SD, this weekend in Ocilla GA for the search for Tara Grinstead. We need as many searchers as possible. We will be there Saturday and Sunday.

Come on out if you can.

[spanky]

Originally posted by CJMMAMA07
Has anyone ever looked into a public funded Television station, that would keep the missing in our face 24/7?

Stories of the missing 24/7

Many of these people could be walking among us daily, just like Elizabeth Smart.

I don't watch much television anymore, but this would be a channel I would watch.

I did see the story of Carrie on television this past weekend, I think it was on CTV.

i was thinking about this the other day...although i think it would be an awesome way of getting pictures and stories out there...i am not sure many people would watch:(

[findcarrie]

Below are some photos from the Search for Tara this weekend in Ocilla GA. Some of the members who came out were, Texas Equusearch, Rachel Cooke Search, Sar911 South Dakota, Beth Holloway Twitty, Dog South, and many many others.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v639/findcarrieculberson/Album2/TaraSearch/fromocilla5.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v639/findcarrieculberson/Album2/TaraSearch/fromocilla9.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v639/findcarrieculberson/Album2/TaraSearch/fromocilla3.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v639/findcarrieculberson/Album2/TaraSearch/fromocilla8.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v639/findcarrieculberson/Album2/TaraSearch/TaraSearch1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v639/findcarrieculberson/Album2/TaraSearch/fromocilla4.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v639/findcarrieculberson/Album2/TaraSearch/fromocilla1.jpg

You can see the rest of the pictures by following this link below:

http://findcarrie.conforums.com/index.cgi?board=events&action=display&num=1134328724&start=0

[RCOOKE]

findcarrie,

It was good to see you again. I made it home around 10:00 tonight.

Robert

[findcarrie]

RC, we were glad to get to talk to you about all these missing person issues. It took us about four hours to get home from Ocilla. I wish we could've stayed much later but I couldnt. Had to get back home.
Keep up the good work with Equusearch.

[findcarrie]

Next Sunday, AETV will be having a show that airs beginning @ 6 pm EST that takes a look into women who fall for murderers such as Vince Doan and Scott Peterson. For those of you who have witnessed our constant problems with the group of women who support Doan, this could possibly answers some of your inner most questions as to the motivation of those who are easily swayed into these types of situations.

visit www.AETV.Com for more information

[oldshirley]

Findcarrie, thanks for posting that. I will try to watch.

And for you and Carrie's mom :rose:
may your holiday be blessed.

For Carrie :rose:
maybe the upcoming year will bring Carrie home.

[starling]

:rose:
Findcarrie, thanks for all you do

:rose:
for Carrie

[findcarrie]

starling, thanks for your kind words. we hope that this year brings more answers to Carrie's family and all those who have a missing loved one.

God be with Carrie and her dear family during these most difficult holidays~:rose: :rose: :rose:

I have read alot about this case and I know it will be Carrie's birthday soon. Here's to Carrie and her family:rose:

[findcarrie]

On Jan. 31st of this month, Carrie would've turned 32 years old. She's still missing without a trace. A page has been created for Carrie if you'd like to see it. Please dont forget about Carrie.
http://www.findcarrieculberson.com/carriebirthday.html

[oldshirley]

:rose:

[findcarrie]

Our group just has returned from the weekend search for Tara Grinstead presented by Texas Equusearch in Ocilla, GA. Below are a few photo hightlights.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v639/findcarrieculberson/Album2/TaraSearch/OcillaPic11.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v639/findcarrieculberson/Album2/TaraSearch/ocillapic7.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v639/findcarrieculberson/Album2/TaraSearch/ocillapic5.jpg

For all the photos click below:
http://findcarrie.conforums.com/index.cgi?board=events&action=display&num=1137001374

[findcarrie]

Wishing Carrie's mom, Debra Culberson a Happy Birthday. Her birthday is exactly one day before Carrie's, which will be tomorrow.

[oldshirley]

Happy Birthday to the Culberson gals.
:rose: :rose:

Maybe this will be the year of answers.

[findcarrie]

Thinking of Carrie today on her birthday. Hoping that she can be found soon.

1-31-74
:rose: :rose: :rose:

[kcharjay01]

:rose: For Carrie and may she be found soon and her family can also find peace!

[PCB50]

:rose: For Carrie!

May She be brought home soon!

IN Hope

[findcarrie]

On Friday Feb. 17, 2006 beginning @ 11 pm EST and again @ 3 am. EST AETV will be reairing the segment regarding the disappearance of Carrie Culberson. For more info., visit www.AETV.Com

[Leanne Weich]

Originally posted by spanky


i was thinking about this the other day...although i think it would be an awesome way of getting pictures and stories out there...i am not sure many people would watch:(

In Australia we have a channel on cable called Crime & Investigation. Quite regularly between programmes they have info. on missing people in Australia. Although not comprehensive stories, you get the basic facts and photos of people. I think this is a good way to inform the public as opposed to a channel solely for the purpose of missing people. I know I, for one, could never just watch about cases of missing people. It is depressing enough just reading the boards here.

Still praying that Mrs Culberson will get the answer she so desperately needs very soon.

God bless you FC for all you do for the missing. You are an amazing woman. :rose:

[findcarrie]

Thank you for saying that, and thank you for caring about these missing people. Happy Summer to you in the land down under :)

[findcarrie]

On Saturday, Feb. 25th beginning @ 8 PM EST Dateline MSNBC will reair the segment regarding the disappearance of three women, one of those being Carrie Culberson. This is a rerun, so some of you may have seen it previously.

Also, this Friday night, Feb. 17, 2006 beginning @ 11 PM EST and again @ 3 .m. EST on AETV (A&E) American Justice will profile the show regarding Carrie Culberson called - What Happened to Carrie Culberson.

[findcarrie]

I just wanted to say HEY COOOOOL that Gil Alba will be attending the Cue Center Meeting with us all. Alba Investigations will be featured on Dateline as stated above on the 26th. Gil handles the Anna Scivetti and Kristine Kupka investigation as well as many others. Cannot wait to finally meet him in person.
Please visit Gil's website for more informaiton on him.

http://www.gilalba.com/flash/index.html

[janna55]

Originally posted by findcarrie
On Saturday, Feb. 25th beginning @ 8 PM EST Dateline MSNBC will reair the segment regarding the disappearance of three women, one of those being Carrie Culberson. This is a rerun, so some of you may have seen it previously.

Also, this Friday night, Feb. 17, 2006 beginning @ 11 PM EST and again @ 3 .m. EST on AETV (A&E) American Justice will profile the show regarding Carrie Culberson called - What Happened to Carrie Culberson.

I'm watching it now! She was such a beautiful girl. :rose:

[findcarrie]

Thinking of you today. Wishing you were home like Sueann. It will happen soon. :rose:

[findcarrie]

On this Thursday, March 16, 2006 beginning @ 12 noon and 6 PM EST, AETV's American Justice will be reairing the segment regarding the disappearance of Carrie Culberson. The show's title is "What Happened to Carrie Culberson".



For more information or channel location in your area - visit, www.AETV.Com

[txfemale45]

i am not sure 100% that they have the right person in prison i know if this happened to my daughter i would want the right person in prison not just anyone...

[findcarrie]

Thanks for your input however we feel as if the right man is in jail. If you'd like to support her killer, please refer to his support thread located under cold cases.
Any problems that arise on her regarding Carrie will be deleted. Thanks ahead of time for your understanding in this most important matter.

[emmeblu]

:rose: Checking in on the Carrie thread. I think of Carrie and her family often. God Bless!

[findcarrie]

Our group will be heading to Wilmington NC this weekend to the Missing Person Conference. As always, all we do for the missing is in Carrie's name. I have submitted her information for the Missing Person Wall and I look forward to the vigil Saturday night. This night is about Carrie and all the others like her.
We have not forgotten about Carrie and although we dont post much on these forums, things are being done to help find her. Carrie and all the others will be found. Dont forget about them.

Somebody loves them and cannot rest until they are home.

[findcarrie]

Below are some photo highlights from the Cue Center Round Table Conference for the Missing held in Wilmington, NC. It was so nice to see everyone and to be a part of continued education.
Carrie was also included on the missing person wall at the vigil that was held Saturday night.



http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v639/findcarrieculberson/Cue2006/ff3.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v639/findcarrieculberson/Cue2006/ff21.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v639/findcarrieculberson/Cue2006/ff4.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v639/findcarrieculberson/Cue2006/ff18.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v639/findcarrieculberson/Cue2006/MissingPersonWall1.jpg


Carrie's picture on the missing person wall
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v639/findcarrieculberson/Cue2006/ff14.jpg


For more pictures from this weekend, click the link below:
http://findcarrie.conforums.com/index.cgi?board=general2&action=display&num=1143435975

[findcarrie]

Just a quick note to let our friends know that Carrie's case and two other missing ladies, Kristine Kupka and Anna Scivetti will be back on Dateline Sunday beginning @ 8 PM EST & again @ 11 PM EST.
This is the show that Gil Alba from Alba Investigations who uses Carrie's case to educate others about cases without a body. Hope you all can watch.

[Dragoness]

Findcarrie,

Excellent!!! I'm so pleased everytime I hear another voice, on this board, or the media speaking out and publishing/televising those mentioned in your post, the others missing, their families, friends, and all concerned citizens.
On a side note, KUDOS to the person who posted Carrie's information on Outpostforhope.org (http://www.outpostforhope.org)
I saw it this morning as I was surfing the different places I go to keep up with current events and other matters of concern.
Just one other side note, thanks for the updates and helping to keep the finger on the pulse of searches, vigils and other events.

Regards and my best to all who seek,
Anna

[findcarrie]

We've been receiving some information that states Carrie Culberson's mother has been in Washington DC working towards the DNA initiative that needs to be passed. We are also seeing incorrect information being posted on several fan sites for the murderer that Debra has denied any age progressed photos to be done of Carrie.

That is a false statement. Those items have been made available to the family and those who wanted it, however they were only for FYI purposes ONLY because Carrie Culberson is not alive, therefore she cannot "age". It is very difficult to look at what somebody you love MIGHT have been able to look like had they not been murdered @ 22 years old. These are facts found in a court of law.

We will not release that photo so that it may be used to exploit the victim and her family further. If anyone has any questions or concerns of these false statements that are being circulated, please contact us and we will clarify any questions you may have.

Time and time again, we are having to defend our actions and our reasons for needing to find Carrie. It never ends.

[findcarrie]

Monroe: Local couple turn grief into domestic violence prevention



Teenage daughter shot, killed by her jealous boyfriend
MONROE — If Jim and Elsa Croucher can save one family from enduring the pain they experienced 13 years ago, their mission is worth it, they said.

Throughout the past 10 years they have presented their story to more than 50,000 Ohio students, and each time the surprised gasps of students could be heard, they said.

Projected on a giant screen during the Friday morning assembly at Monroe High School was the senior portrait of a smiling 18-year-old Monroe student from the early 1990s.

Her parents had left for work already, and she was sound asleep in bed when her possessive and jealous boyfriend broke into the home and shot her. Next he shot himself. She was Tina, the Croucher’ daughter.

A perpetual nightmare, the Crouchers are still dealing with the grief from a tragedy they would have given anything to prevent.

Because they can’t change the past, the couple has made it their life’s work to help protect the lives of future generations.

Citizens Against Domestic Violence — an organization they founded in 1996 — specifically targets students to educate them about the dangers of violent dating relationships.

“If we’re going to make a difference, we’ve got to get to the young people,” Jim Croucher said. “If we could keep a little girl alive that means everything to us.”

Each time they tell their story, they pray they will have touched someone in the audience.

Amber Johnes, one of the 90 Monroe freshmen health students at the assembly, said she will be much more aware of abuse in the future.

“If I see it I will try to help instead of looking over it,” she said. “I didn’t know there was that much abuse and that it was that common.”

Some of the topics addressed include the signs of an abusive relationship, such as jealousy and rage. They also give advice on how to get out such a situation. In the past, the Crouchers have helped numerous women escape danger.

They also have been able to prevent it.

Boys will come up and hug the couple, saying they never realized they were abusers, she said. One even brought his girlfriend over and vowed never to hit her again.

While the Crouchers’ story packs a powerful punch, students also hear several personal testimonies during the assemblies.

Miami University graduate and Butler County court advocate Etta Caver shows students images of her black and blue face. The minister and director of the Dream Center in Middletown said she is a survivor of domestic violence.

That always gets the attention of students, Jim Croucher said.

Debbie Culberson speaks about her slain daughter, Carrie, whose body still has never been found. Her abusive boyfriend is now in prison for murder.


Amy Rezos-Jones is a recent addition to the team. The graphic photos of her bleeding head are flashed across the screen, illustrating the bullet wound she received when her husband shot her after getting out of jail on bond just days after a previous attempt on her life.

The Liberty Township mother of two now has a law named after her.

“Amy’s Law” was established in Ohio to tighten requirements for setting bond in domestic violence cases.

After each presentation, students are given a folder with information, self-esteem boosters and words of encouragement.

Education is the answer to preventing violence, Elsa Croucher said.

“We want to keep them alive.”
http://www.middletownjournal.com/hp/content/news/stories/2006/04/10/mj041006abuse.html

[PCB50]

[i]Originally posted by findcarrie

Time and time again, we are having to defend our actions and our reasons for needing to find Carrie. It never ends. [/B]

((((HUGS))) to Debbie and Fincarrie,

And of course to ALL who are helping in keeping Carrie's info out there so Carrie may be found and laid to rest!

This is all we ask when we are searching, and I personally do not feel this is too much to ask for.

:rose:

[findcarrie]

InHope,

She refuses to let Carrie's memory die and she also intends to educate other young women on these thing so they can be safe.

We appreciate all the support from you and Ed. You guys are great. Someday I will meet you in person :)

[findcarrie]

bumping for Carrie.
Just remembering the excavation that happened two years ago with the news of this excavation going on right now for Jodi Huisentruit.
We will be the lucky one some day soon and you'll be home.

[PCB50]

Hi Findcarrie!

When I saw the story last evening on Jodi I must say it gave me hope for so many of our Missing!

I pray for All of our girls and guys to be found and brought home soon:rose:

[oldshirley]

Originally posted by findcarrie
bumping for Carrie.
Just remembering the excavation that happened two years ago with the news of this excavation going on right now for Jodi Huisentruit.
We will be the lucky one some day soon and you'll be home.

I believe Carrie will be found one day fc--I believe with all the prayers for her it will happen. Until then, i think, from all that i've heard about her, she is in her heavenly home looking out for her mom.
:rose:
I believe the same thing about Karen Jo. :rose:

[starling]

Originally posted by findcarrie
bumping for Carrie.
Just remembering the excavation that happened two years ago with the news of this excavation going on right now for Jodi Huisentruit.
We will be the lucky one some day soon and you'll be home.


:rose:

[findcarrie]

bumping for Carrie. Still looking searching for you and will always be until you are found.

[oldshirley]

:rose:

[ARIZONAGIRL]

:rose:

[findcarrie]

WASHINGTON - The mother of an Ohio murder victim urged lawmakers at a congressional hearing Wednesday to enact nationwide mandatory testing of unidentified remains.

Debra Culberson's daughter, Carrie, of Blanchester, was kidnapped and murdered in 1996.

Her ex-boyfriend, Vincent Doan, was convicted of the murder in 1997, though a body was never found.

Over the years, the Culberson family has chased wild leads about the whereabouts of Carrie Culberson's body, to no avail.

There is no mandate to require testing of unidentified remains.

"DNA may be the only way that I will be able to find my daughter," Culberson said. "But unless there is mandatory testing ... the unidentified dead will remain unidentified."

Rep. Steve Chabot, R-Westwood, who chaired the House Judiciary Subcommittee on the Constitution hearing, has helped secure some money to test unidentified remains through the Victims' Rights Act.

During the hearing, which examined the 2-year-old act, Chabot said he plans to introduce legislation to help crime victims collect restitution.

http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060622/NEWS01/606220384/1056

[findcarrie]

This is a much better article and this one includes a video link of Debbie. Sorry to post again but I'm so very proud of her and want everyone to see these things she's working on.



Local police and law enforcement agencies in other cities could benefit from a new national database. It would help find missing people and identify the remains of those already recovered.

Debra Culberson has a mission that stems from ten years of painful and sometimes horrifying frustration. The pain began with the murder of her daughter Carrie in 1996 and the fact that Carrie's body has still not been found. A website dedicated to her case still pleads for information.

The horror came with rumors her body had been dismembered before being dumped in the Ohio River and the wondering if it's true.

"The not knowing of where your child is, not knowing the fate they had suffered. You can only imagine," said Culberson.

The uncertainty is similar to that surrounding cases in Indiana like the disappearance of six-year-old Shannon Sherrill, missing since 1986 from Thorntown and IUPUI student Molly Dattilo, last seen two years ago.

"That's not all that unusual in this country, where people are literally missing and maybe in another state and they're not necessarily identified and so the family members never find out what happened," said Rep. Steve Chabot (R-OH).

Debra Culberson told members of Congress states should be required to run DNA tests on all remains found so they could be put in a national database. She says another state might already have her daughter.

"If they picked up those remains and put them in a box and put them on a shelf because there is no mandatory testing, then Carrie could already be found and sitting in a box on a shelf," Culberson said.

She says such a database could not only find her daughter but many others. "You'd think it would be something that should automatically be done. It shouldn't have to be mandated."

As it stands now, there are only six states where DNA tests of remains are required. Indiana is not one of them. That could change if Congress decides to make it mandatory everywhere.

Carrie Culbertson disappeared near Cincinnati. Her mother says there are as many as 50,000 unidentified remains nationwide.

http://www.wthr.com/Global/story.asp?S=5062051&nav=9Tai

[findcarrie]

Bumping this for Carrie. I'm still looking for you and although August 28th = 10 years, that does not mean that any of us will be giving up or slacking off on our efforts to locate you and bring you home.

I always remember this verse when I'm down and it helps me get through. All the others going through the same thing, read this too.

“Fear them not therefore: for there is nothing covered, that shall not be revealed; and hid, that shall not be known”

Matthew 10:26

:rose:

[starling]

:rose:

[BobbisAngel]

As the mother of a murdered daughter but one that was found right after the murder I just wanted to say that you should never feel that you have to defend anything that you are doing in Carrie's name and you should never ever have to explain why you, Carrie's mother or anyone else is looking for Carrie.

People that questions your actions and ask why anyone is still looking for Carrie are just plain ignorant and not worth your time in giving them an answer. I can't even imagine anyone having the nerve to question your efforts.

I've watched Carrie's story twice and I have no doubt that Vince is the guilty party. Of course he will continue to deny that he murdered Carrie. Don't most prisoners deny their crime! I remember the people that got on the witness stand and said that they had seen Carrie driving down the road....how they had the nerve to get on that stand and lie I will never know. I don't know why anyone would try and protect someone who had murdered an innocent beautiful young lady.

I'm so sorry that Carrie's mom and family have had to go through this for so many years. It has to be a nightmare not knowing what happened to Carrie and not knowing where she is. I honestly don't know how they continue on day after day.

I wish the mandatory DNA testing of people found but unidentified was in affect right now. It makes so much sense. A lot of cities have so many bodies that are not identified. I don't know how much trouble is put into trying to find out who these people are. It is really sad. This should be something that is done in every city in every state. I just heard of a person that was finally identified after years and years. That mother was in the same position Carrie's mom is in and in reality the body was found right after the person went missing! The mom lived a unnecessary nightmare of not knowing. That just isn't right.

[findcarrie]

Originally posted by BobbisAngel
As the mother of a murdered daughter but one that was found right after the murder I just wanted to say that you should never feel that you have to defend anything that you are doing in Carrie's name and you should never ever have to explain why you, Carrie's mother or anyone else is looking for Carrie.

People that questions your actions and ask why anyone is still looking for Carrie are just plain ignorant and not worth your time in giving them an answer. I can't even imagine anyone having the nerve to question your efforts.

I've watched Carrie's story twice and I have no doubt that Vince is the guilty party. Of course he will continue to deny that he murdered Carrie. Don't most prisoners deny their crime! I remember the people that got on the witness stand and said that they had seen Carrie driving down the road....how they had the nerve to get on that stand and lie I will never know. I don't know why anyone would try and protect someone who had murdered an innocent beautiful young lady.

I'm so sorry that Carrie's mom and family have had to go through this for so many years. It has to be a nightmare not knowing what happened to Carrie and not knowing where she is. I honestly don't know how they continue on day after day.

I wish the mandatory DNA testing of people found but unidentified was in affect right now. It makes so much sense. A lot of cities have so many bodies that are not identified. I don't know how much trouble is put into trying to find out who these people are. It is really sad. This should be something that is done in every city in every state. I just heard of a person that was finally identified after years and years. That mother was in the same position Carrie's mom is in and in reality the body was found right after the person went missing! The mom lived a unnecessary nightmare of not knowing. That just isn't right.



The problem we have with Carrie's case is that we do not have her body and then you have a core of about 5 people who believe that this individual is innocent - which is fine. The problem is that the actions that are being taken against the victim's family, advocates, and others involved from these people, mostly online are a clear indication that his representation is lacking. Nobody but these people want to question our efforts because they question their own.

Carrie Culberson is not out roaming the streets and she's not your next door neighbor. These sightings were all from people who who not credible witnesses and also perjured themselves on the stand. I believe that some of these sightings were Shannon Hodson (Doan's new girlfriend) who took-up with him less than 2 weeks after Carrie went missing. He was so distraught of Carrie's disappearance, he needed somebody to move in with him. During that time, from a distance, could pass for Carrie Culberson.
We do not have apologize for our actions to locate Carrie's body to bring it home and never will. We know that she's dead. We also know that the only thing that is being held over our heads is the fact that someone knows the location of the body and refuses to give us that location.
Somewhere down that pike, we know that'll be revealed because good overcomes evil.

Also, thanks to all of those who continue to support us as we continue our journey. We've met a lot of wonderful people along the way. :seeya:

[MATTHEWsevenone]

Your endurance continues to amaze and inspire me.
That anyone would begin a smear campaign against you or anyone trying to simply actively and ONLY seek the location of a missing child angers me to the core. It also speaks volumes...

I agree wholehearted with you and have peace that GOOD will OVERTAKE and WIN. The day is coming when Carrie will be found and your vigil will be over. How I hope that day is very soon. I believe each day your daughter's whereabouts are denied you there is an equal and exacting consequence laid at the feet of the one responsible for her disappearance. This culprit is under the mistaken impression he is in control. I believe he has been given the opportunity to help you. One day that will cease. I hope that day is fast upon us.

At this time, may GOD shore you up, ease your pain, and allow you the peace which only HE can provide.

My best to you and your family.

:rose:

[BobbisAngel]

I may be getting two storys mixed up but I'll ask anyway. In the CTV story about Carrie's disappearence that I saw didn't Vince go to his brother's for some plastic bags or something and didn't his brother leave with him? It seems that the brother's girlfriend or wife said that she saw Vince with blood on his pants? Am I thinking of the right case?

If this is right....what did the brother way when he was questioned? If the female saw Vince come to their door and his pants were bloody and her boyfriend/husband left with Vince that has to mean that he was helping him do something.

Vince sure tried to convince the guys from CTV that he is innocent
but he just couldn't pull it off. Only a fool wouldn't have been able to see through his story.

[BobbisAngel]

Thanks. I'm familiar with Carrie's case and have watched the show twice that CTV did when they investigated the case and went to the prison and talked to Vince. I remember all of the lies from the stand by Vince's friends too.

I just wasn't sure that I was remembering right when it came to the brother and sister-in-law. If the sister-in-law told that story to LE right after Carrie disappeared I would believe that she was telling the truth then. Maybe she was threatened by her husband and so she changed her story later. I think Vince's brother knows very well where Carrie is. He will deny it though because of his brother.

It is cruel not to tell what they did with Carrie. But I doubt that Vince or any of his friends or brother really care much about Carrie's mom or sister. I just wish that she would be found so that Carrie's mom could find some peace.

[findcarrie]

Below are some photos from the Midwestern Coalition for the Missing that was held this past weekend in Indiana. This started as a small event for Niqui McCowan who vanished five years ago on July 22nd, but got a little larger ;) If you need more in depth information about the coalition, you need to contact Patti or Ed Bishop by going to www.MissingKarenJoSmith.Com
For now, I want you take a look at some of these photos of these wonderful people that I got the chance to visit with once again and some for the first time in support of find our missing and unsolved murders. Patti and Ed are two wonderful people.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v639/findcarrieculberson/Album2/MidwesternConference/midwest1.jpg[/IMG]


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v639/findcarrieculberson/Album2/MidwesternConference/DSCN0772.jpg[/IMG]


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v639/findcarrieculberson/Album2/MidwesternConference/midwest13.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v639/findcarrieculberson/Album2/MidwesternConference/midwest4.jpg


For many photos that won't fit onto this post follow this link below :)
http://findcarrie.conforums.com/index.cgi?board=events&action=display&num=1152494875

Always in support of finding Carrie

[findcarrie]

I wanted to share with you all the link that is now available online of what Debra Culberson said to congress regarding the DNA database and why she feels we need this. This is a very moving testimony. I'm not just saying this because I'm partial to finding Carrie.

Please take a moment and read this. This is yet another example of the hell these families have to go through each day and how this can help stop the wondering and waiting.

http://judiciary.house.gov/OversightTestimony.aspx?ID=651

[findcarrie]

We have updated Carrie's "MISSING" flier and added some new support banners being that in just a few weeks Carrie will be missing for a full ten years. I'm going to attach the link(s). Please feel free to download any of these items and use them. Last but not least, please say a prayer for us as this date arrives. This is very difficult because it has gone on for a solid decade and it appears it's going to continue on past that.

Updated Carrie Culberson Missing Flier (http://www.findcarrieculberson.com/UpdatedCarrieFlier.pdf)

10 Year Support Banners (http://findcarrie.conforums.com/index.cgi?board=cc&action=display&num=1153916055)

[findcarrie]

We now have an online vigil page for Carrie available for those who wish to view it on her main website. In the next few days we will adding more information for viewers and supporters. If you'd like to say something to the family, please send me an email @ findcarrieculberson@yahoo.com I will put it up on the website. Unfortunately we are having to screen the messages and check IP addresses.
This is going to be very hard for us to pass a decade but it's because of the continued support of people like you all that makes it possible for us continue our quest for Carrie. I am confident that we will find her eventually.

Come see us

Online Vigil For Carrie Culberson (http://www.findcarrieculberson.com/Carries10Yr2.html)

:rose:
For Carrie
We'll find you. I promise

[findcarrie]

The Wheel of Justice is spinning again. So far 25 spins have resulted in 31 arrests.


This week's special guest spinner is Debbie Culberson. Her daughter, Carrie Culberson, went missing 10 years ago. Monday will mark the day of her disappearance. Debbie plans to spend the day honoring a fallen Clinton County officer, Deputy Bud Lee. Deputy Lee was killed while trying to stop a rape.


This week's Wheel focus is put on Kenneth Jeter. He is wanted out of Hamilton County for 16 felonies including parole violation, felonious assault and burglary. Authorities say Jeter should be considered armed and dangerous.


If you have any information on any of these fugitives, call CrimeStoppers at 352-3040. You will remain anonymous and could earn a $500 reward from our CrimeStopper Community Partner.

http://www.wkrc.com/breaking/story.aspx?content_id=03931293-601A-47CC-B451-474C388F452D

[findcarrie]

Thinking of you today on this 10th anniversary since you were taken away. We will find you soon.

:rose: :rose: :rose:

8-28-96

[Carolyn2005]

Please don't kill me. I am so confused about this case and any other where a conviction is made and there is no confession/body. I know the evidence is against this guy is enormous, I am just still at a loss of how these things happen. Anything new ever come to light on this case? I remember when this went down, it was sad.

[Happymommy824]

Originally posted by Carolyn2005
Please don't kill me. I am so confused about this case and any other where a conviction is made and there is no confession/body. I know the evidence is against this guy is enormous, I am just still at a loss of how these things happen. Anything new ever come to light on this case? I remember when this went down, it was sad.



They still have not located Carrie's remains. The right guy is in jail, nothing more to do other than find Carrie. They didn't need her body to find him guilty, they had enough testimony and evidence to convict.

[mattsmom32]

May your family find closure soon.

[Carolyn2005]

Originally posted by Happymommy824




They still have not located Carrie's remains. The right guy is in jail, nothing more to do other than find Carrie. They didn't need her body to find him guilty, they had enough testimony and evidence to convict.

That would be sheer hell to live with. I would not rest until my child's remains were found and a porper goodbye was done.

[findcarrie]

This past weekend the members of the Midwestern Coalition for the Missing & Murdered were in Blanchester, OH to remember Carrie Culberson who has now been missing for 10 long years. Monday night (August 28, 2006) on the anniversary of Carrie's disappearance, there was a ceremony held at the Blanchester Police Dept. that recognized victims of domestic violence, including Carrie. Afterwards, another small vigil was held for Carrie back at her house where she was last seen on that fateful night.

Below are some photos from this weekend. We are now moving past a decade of searching but are not about to give up. Thanks to ALL those people who came to town to help us remember her. We thank you from the bottom of our hearts.

Remembering Carrie Culberson 10 Years Later (Photos) (http://findcarrie.conforums.com/index.cgi?board=cc&action=display&num=1156892243)

[janna55]

Originally posted by Carolyn2005
Please don't kill me. I am so confused about this case and any other where a conviction is made and there is no confession/body. I know the evidence is against this guy is enormous, I am just still at a loss of how these things happen. Anything new ever come to light on this case? I remember when this went down, it was sad.

I'm certainly glad they can convict without a body. If they couldn't all the killers would have to do is be trickier about where they hide the bodies.

For innnocentinmates....it matters not where we point our fingers....the jury saw all the evidence and made the decision. That's what juries are for.

[Happymommy824]

Originally posted by janna55


I'm certainly glad they can convict without a body. If they couldn't all the killers would have to do is be trickier about where they hide the bodies.

For innnocentinmates....it matters not where we point our fingers....the jury saw all the evidence and made the decision. That's what juries are for.


Good post- I agree wholeheartedly!

[findcarrie]

Property owner seeks more than $2 million in damages


By WADE LINVILLE
Associate Editor

BLANCHESTER - The 2004 search for Carrie Culberson's body has led to a civil suit filed in Cincinnati Federal Court naming Brown County Sheriff Dwayne Wenninger and Clermont County Sheriff, A.J. "Tim" Rodenberg Jr. as defendants.

Jeanette Spangler, owner of the property on Fayetteville-Blanchester Road, and her son Jerrod Messer, are seeking compensatory damages exceeding $1 million, punitive damages exceeding $1 million and equitable relief including, but not limited to, an apology from the law enforcement agencies that conducted the search on the property two years ago.

"Defendant Dwayne Wenninger is being sued in his official capacity as Brown County Sheriff for all acts complained of herein, as well as individually for acts of retaliation and discrimination," it said in the suit.

According to the lawsuit filed, law enforcement agencies who conducted the search of the Spangler property exceeded the scope of the search warrant by digging in an area much larger than what the warrant allowed.

"This search was executed with recklessness and malice," it said in the suit.

The suit claimed that the search led to the destruction of personal property and real property which constituted an illegal seizure of that property, resulting in damages of more than $75,000.

The executed search for Culberson's body also caused damage to cedar fencing on the property, damage to a metal storage shed, as well as other damage from deposits and debris left behind by law enforcement agencies that conducted the search.

The suit claimed that 11 vehicles were destroyed during the search when the defendants named in the lawsuit moved the vehicles outside of the garage being searched and buried them in other debris removed from the garage.

"The damages further included loss of numerous expensive tools which were also buried in the debris and/or stolen as a result of the conditions that defendants (Wenninger and Rodenberg) left the property in when they completed their search," it said in the lawsuit.

When removing items from a garage that was searched, law enforcement agencies allegedly left the items in an unsecured location that was not safe from vandals and left the land in uninhabitable condition.

Spangler claimed she was unable to rent the property until the various damages were repaired, resulting in a loss of rental income.

Wenninger and Rodenberg's actions in executing the search warrant displayed "extreme and outrageous conduct" that "intentionally or recklessly caused the plaintiffs severe emotional distress."

The Ohio Fair Plan Underwriting Association is also named as a defendant in the lawsuit for not yet providing compensation to the plaintiffs in a timely manner.

Clinton County Sheriff Ralph Fiser Jr., recalled receiving notice by the Brown County Sheriff's Department in 2004, alerting his office that a search warrant had been obtained for the Spangler property and a dig would be conducted.

The Clinton County Sheriff's Department had no involvement in the search, other than sending an investigator to monitor progress and help secure the area.

The warrant to search the property was obtained through the testimony of a confidential informant who claimed they knew the whereabouts of Culberson's body. However, Fiser claimed he told the Brown County Sheriff's Department that he had dealt with the confidential informant in the past and found them to be unreliable.

"We (Clinton County Sheriff's Office) told them he was probably lying," said Fiser.

According to Fiser, items obtained through the search were taken to a crime lab, but none of the items were proven to belong to Culberson.

Rodenberg was awestruck as to why he was named in the lawsuit received on Aug. 17, claiming that his involvement in the search for Culberson was very limited.

"The Clermont County Sheriff's Office had no role in the digging (on Spangler's property)," said Rodenberg. "We didn't have much involvement at all."

Rodenberg said his office only provided security, mainly during the evening hours, to make sure the property was not disturbed while the investigation was underway.

Assisting in the dig, but not yet named in the suit, was the FBI's Cincinnati office.

"I'm confident, as things progress, that our office will be resolved from the suit," said Rodenberg.

Sheriff Wenninger could not be reached by telephone when his office was contacted on Monday and Tuesday, and despite messages left on his voice mail and with his office staff, he did not return calls.

Although Culberson's body has not been located, her former boyfriend Vincent Doan, is serving a life sentence for the kidnapping and murder of the missing Blanchester woman.

http://www.newsdemocrat.com/main.asp?SectionID=1&SubSectionID=1&ArticleID=121971&TM=35346.34

[Leanne Weich]

Is ther a statute of limitations in which to claim damages? If so, how long is the time period?

[PCB50]

Being in Ohio with Debbie, Jill, Karren, Lorraine, Dawn, Judy, Lisa, John, "Butch", aka Virgil, and of course our Lt. Bender was a very rewarding experience this past weekend. What a group of support we were to not only Debbie, but to each other.

The ceremony was very touching. Honoring a fallen officer in Blanchester, who lost his life 57 years ago defending a 13 yr. old rape victim was impactful. The Prosecutor who Emcee'd the event made it a point to include Carrie's information throughout the ceremony.

:rose: For All of our Victim's of Domestic Violence!

Thank You Jill again for All you do. I am so glad that we have been able to be a part of each others lives, especially since you have been so instrumental in not only helping Ed and I in our search for Karen Jo, but all you do for so many other Missing. I know how hard this is for you in your search for Carrie, but you now know how much support you have. We have your Back Girl!

IN Hope
www.missingkarenjosmith.com

[stephaniebob]

I am so confused. Was the items Carrie's or not? Didn't her Mom identify the shirt as hers? Clinton County sheriff Fizer is saying the informant lied?:shrug:

[stephaniebob]

Then how can the Messer's sue? I feel so bad for Carrie's Mom. Findcarrie what does she say about all of this? None of this makes any sense to me.

[janna55]

Originally posted by stephaniebob
Then how can the Messer's sue? I feel so bad for Carrie's Mom. Findcarrie what does she say about all of this? None of this makes any sense to me.

I believe findcarrie *is* Carrie's mom.

[stephaniebob]

Originally posted by janna55


I believe findcarrie *is* Carrie's mom. now I am really confused:shrug:

[janna55]

Originally posted by stephaniebob
now I am really confused:shrug:

Well you guys are right and I am wrong. For some reason I have always believed that this was Carrie's mother, however, in reading back through some of her posts, I see I was mistaken. :o So sorry!

[stephaniebob]

Originally posted by janna55


Well you guys are right and I am wrong. For some reason I have always believed that this was Carrie's mother, however, in reading back through some of her posts, I see I was mistaken. :o So sorry! thanks for clearing that up. Still though I don't really like that Sheriff Fiser's statement saying nothing was PROVEN to be Carrie's when her Mom identified the shirt as Carrie's. I don't like him saying that, I thought that not only her Mom but her sister and Dad all identified it.

[stephaniebob]

Originally posted by Here4Justice2


It says "trio" :shrug:

The rose and a small white evidence flag mark the four-foot-deep spot where investigators found a piece of clothing - something that a trio of Culberson's closest relatives all recognized as belonging to the 22-year-old Clinton County woman who vanished almost eight years ago.

http://www.enquirer.com/editions/2004/05/12/loc_culberson12.html Then how is this guy able to sue? This whole thing doesn't make sense. The article says they found items, then the Sheriff said they didn't find anything? Which is it? What a mess!

[findcarrie]

FindCarrie is NOT Debra Culberson. THis is Jill


Debra Culberson and Carrie's family identified those items at the excavation site back in 2004. That is not to say that the crime lab was able to tie those items to Carrie Culberson through DNA positively. You have to remember that we have never had any solid DNA with this case. It has all been ..... how should I say this... "destroyed a long time ago". The family never lied about the items they've just never been able to link them through the lab.

The visible eye could identify something but tieing it at a crime lab could be another task. Does that make sense.

Jarrod Messer is sueing because his property was destroyed after that excavation. That shed where they dug is now caving in and I assume other areas were affected as well.

The informant who called in that tip is someone who corresponds with Vincent Doan - Carrie's convicted killer so that tell us that they obviously had "some" knowlege of the items being there.

I'll find the news links and post.

[findcarrie]

Search Warrant from Excavation Site Article: (http://www.enquirer.com/editions/2004/06/17/loc_culberson17.html)



All Articles From Excavation 2004 - Carrie Culberson Case (http://www.findcarrieculberson.com/maysearchforcarrie.html)

[stephaniebob]

Originally posted by findcarrie
FindCarrie is NOT Debra Culberson. THis is Jill


Debra Culberson and Carrie's family identified those items at the excavation site back in 2004. That is not to say that the crime lab was able to tie those items to Carrie Culberson through DNA positively. You have to remember that we have never had any solid DNA with this case. It has all been ..... how should I say this... "destroyed a long time ago". The family never lied about the items they've just never been able to link them through the lab.

The visible eye could identify something but tieing it at a crime lab could be another task. Does that make sense.

Jarrod Messer is sueing because his property was destroyed after that excavation. That shed where they dug is now caving in and I assume other areas were affected as well.

The informant who called in that tip is someone who corresponds with Vincent Doan - Carrie's convicted killer so that tell us that they obviously had "some" knowlege of the items being there.

I'll find the news links and post. So even though no DNA was found on these items the Culberson's still say they are Carrie's? Why did Fiser say that the informant was not reliable? Thank You for the links, I am trying to understand what this is all about. I live in Cincinnati and this is so close to home.

[findcarrie]

That's not what I said to you. I said that even though her family can identify the items with a human eye - that does not mean the crime lab can forensically link them to Carrie.

[stephaniebob]

Originally posted by findcarrie
That's not what I said to you. I said that even though her family can identify the items with a human eye - that does not mean the crime lab can forensically link them to Carrie. I'm sorry! I am just trying to understand. I don't see why they haven't brought charges up on this Jarrod Messer yet.Especially now since he is trying to sue. How can he sue since they found these things.
Was there any DNA found on the items? There has to be something on them. The duct tape that was found, why would they bury that unless it was used and if it was used how can you destroy the DNA on that? Surely someone's DNA must be on it.
I was talking to my next door nieghbor last night about the Marcus Fiesel story and I brought this story up. I just moved to Ohio a year ago but she remembers the dig on Jarrod Messer's property. She said she watched the news and seen Carrie's Mom telling about Carrie's shirt that was found. She said that Carrie's Mom went into detail about her being beat the week before she disappeared and something about her wearing this shirt. How terrible!!What her Mom must of went through, being a mother myself I can only imagine. Do you have a link to that?

[findcarrie]

Carrie was physically assaulted approximately one month before she vanished with a space heater that caused her to need staples in the back of her head.
Three days before she vanished she was held at gunpoint on Hunt Road for about five hours by Vincent Doan. I am unaware of any physical assault that occured at that time other than verbal. I am sure that I'll be attacked by someone saying this is hearsay but here again, the jury found this credible and the evidence will show

The last assault that we have clear documentation of was the night she vanished forever and that was August 28, 1996 (Ohio v. Doan witness (Billie Jo . We have her assault timeline on the main website as well as the photos of her attacks if you'd like to view that.



Disappearance Timeline (http://www.findcarrieculberson.com/disappearancetimeline.html)

Evidence of Abuse (http://www.findcarrieculberson.com/carriesabuse.html)

**** all the information on this website has been found by the Clinton County Court and jury in Ohio. They are not thoughts or opinions compiled by the webmaster or family of Carrie Culberson***

[stephaniebob]

Originally posted by findcarrie
Carrie was physically assaulted approximately one month before she vanished with a space heater that caused her to need staples in the back of her head.
Three days before she vanished she was held at gunpoint on Hunt Road for about five hours by Vincent Doan. I am unaware of any physical assault that occured at that time other than verbal. I am sure that I'll be attacked by someone saying this is hearsay but here again, the jury found this credible and the evidence will show

The last assault that we have clear documentation of was the night she vanished forever and that was August 28, 1996 (Ohio v. Doan witness (Billie Jo . We have her assault timeline on the main website as well as the photos of her attacks if you'd like to view that.



Disappearance Timeline (http://www.findcarrieculberson.com/disappearancetimeline.html)

Evidence of Abuse (http://www.findcarrieculberson.com/carriesabuse.html)

**** all the information on this website has been found by the Clinton County Court and jury in Ohio. They are not thoughts or opinions compiled by the webmaster or family of Carrie Culberson*** what a nightmare!!! My nieghbor said that Carrie's Mom told the news that Carrie was wearing the shirt she identified, she thinks, she said a week before she disappeared?( I am sorry if I am wrong) But came home in a different shirt because she had been beaten by her boyfriend. That she never seen this shirt again until it was found there buried. I haven't seen in any of the links anything about this, you haven't heard it either?

[findcarrie]

I believe she did say Carrie had worn the shirt within a week timeframe before she vanished but with regard to a beating that occurred, I don't recall.

Not every news article is 100% word for word as stated by the family and can be misquoted at times. And that is understandable or someone who is trying to learn about the case and can only learn from material they are reading online.

I can tell you that the only bloody t-shirt that I recall is that the one that Carrie had on when she was taken to the hospital on 7-28-96, when the assault charge was filed against Vincent Doan.

That charge was filed one month prior to the disappearance. I do not know the type of t-shirt she was wearing that day. I do not believe that is the shirt found at the excavation site as we have discussed all of that. Carrie was wearing a tank top, and sweat shirt, cut off short, and thong sandals the night she vanished so therefore that smily face t-shirt has no relation to the night she vanished, it's only related to her in general (as one of her articles of clothing in her wardrobe)- which only adds to this mystery.

Just wish somebody who would stop playing with us and reveal the rest of this so we can have her back. This has gone on long enough.



:rose: For Carrie
You Know I Won't Give Up On You
I'll Find You "Someday"

[stephaniebob]

You are so right. This shirt being buried under that barn just adds to the mystery since it was not the shirt that she was wearing. Did she have clothes missing? Why would they bury that shirt for. Why didn't they just throw it away? I know alot of questions...
I do believe the truth will be found someday.;)

[emmeblu]

:rose:

I think about Carrie often and hope that one day her remains will be found.

:rose: For Carrie's family

[findcarrie]

Originally posted by Jadedblueeyes


Most states say that the plaintiff must file within 2 years from the time they feel they were civilly harmed or 2 years from the time they became aware of harm done.

IMO

Ocean

Jaded,

You've bought up a good point. I never thought about this but did want to say this. Jarrod was still in jail for a little while after that excavation. I'm not sure of the exact release date (he's never been my main focus), and this mysterious suit was filed within a week after the 10th anniversary of Carrie's disappearance that just past on August 28, 2006. Something always seems to happen when an important date pertaining to Carrie comes about - i.e., the ceremony to unveil that statue back on April 30, 2004 (Victim's Rights Week). That tip that caused the excavation caused the ceremony to be "temporarily" cancelled" - just like us being temporarily unable to locate her body and bring her home.

Related Article - Police Could Be Searching For Carrie's Body (http://www.wcpo.com/news/2004/local/04/30/body.html)

[PCB50]

Got your point! Needless to say We are not responsible for the Media and what they say.

As findcarrie does very well and that is to help the families of the Missing and Carrie is her #1 case.

I must say that I am getting tired of all the secondary bull that goes on against her.
She is and always has been working for the good.

When people give her bull anymore, expect Me to be right here backing her.

I must add, that it is so uneccesary to have all this secondary stuff going on against the families of the Missing too! We are All searching for our Missing Children! We do not need to put up with extra bull.

My opinion!
My Words!
Oh My!
missingkarenjosmith.com

[PCB50]

Well Said! Amen!

[findcarrie]

We are gonna be just fine. And you know why? This is the ONLY way to aggrivate and attempt to discredit the court's findings against the person they feel is innocent. Someone has to be blamed for this and it might as well be me, the victim and the victim's family. Ignore it. :o

[Pepper]

Originally posted by willow_1


I am from the next county over and I didn't know the evidence against this man was enormous. I think the only evidence that was a direct lead was given by his ex sister-in-law whom he was once sleeping with. Now how the jury credited her is beyond my thinking. She slept with her husbands brother and she is believed? Well not in my world. Before you jump on my spelling etc.I am a senior and sometime hit the wrong keys. Thanks IMO

Actually, I believe the prosecution had many witnesses, one of them a woman who saw Vincent Doan threatening to kill Carrie ("I told you I'd f'in kill you, biatch") on her (the witness') front lawn - which was the last time Carrie was seen alive. IMO, the sister-in-law's testimony only backs up this woman's testimony.

I have faith that justice was served in this case.

[Leanne Weich]

i really believe the statute of limitations should only run from the time conclusive evidece of the death of the decedent is found.

[PsychNurse;~)]

Originally posted by Leanne Weich
i really believe the statute of limitations should only run from the time conclusive evidece of the death of the decedent is found.

:confused:

not sure what you mean. there is no statute of limitations on murder in the united states.

~~c~~

[findcarrie]

Subtract all the witnesses in this case and go only on the alibi that Vincent Doan's father gave him and the information Vincent Doan gave to the police regarding August 28, 1996. The time frame available for that night is impossible. He was clearly lieing about his movements that night and for somebody so innocent, I have to ask why are you lieing and changing the story?

Also why did he clock into work @ 7 a.m and clock out 30 minutes later on the following day (Aug. 29, 1996 - the day when the family and friends begin to search for Carrie when she is discovered MISSING). Call two people on the 29th and claim to be on his lunch break looking for Carrie. Telephone records will show he was not at work as well as his time clock records at work. He clocked out to work and went home because there was obviously SOME reason he'd been seen sleeping on his mom's couch twice that day. What was making him so sleepy that day? Had he been up all night the prior evening? Probably never thought that the cops would have enough sense to pull phone records and learn that he never placed the phone calls from his employment but from another location.

We had a little more than Lori Baker's testimony against Vincent Doan. Sure it may be circumstantial but when you put the pieces together, it reaks of MURDER :read:

[findcarrie]

I'd like to say thank-you to one of my favorite people - Todd Matthews of Project Edan & the Doe Network for having me on his new radio show last Tuesday night Missing Pieces. It was good to be able to discuss Carrie's case and then some other topics that needed to be addressed. I think it's important for a large listening community to be able to hear this complex case and how other people are learning from this to prosecute murder cases without a body.

If you have not heard his show, it airs every Tuesday night beginning @ 8 PM EST.

Here's supporting Edan, Lost & Found, Doe, Forensic Artist and Cold Case Files. You guys are great.



:seeya:

www.ProjectEdan.Us
www.DoeNetwork.Us

[findcarrie]

bumping for Carrie.

Listen to Missing Pieces every Tuesday night on WCAN Radio with Todd Matthews beginning @ 8 PM EST

www.MissingPieces.Info for more info.
:patriot:

[Leanne Weich]

Originally posted by findcarrie
I'd like to say thank-you to one of my favorite people - Todd Matthews of Project Edan & the Doe Network for having me on his new radio show last Tuesday night Missing Pieces. It was good to be able to discuss Carrie's case and then some other topics that needed to be addressed. I think it's important for a large listening community to be able to hear this complex case and how other people are learning from this to prosecute murder cases without a body.

If you have not heard his show, it airs every Tuesday night beginning @ 8 PM EST.

Here's supporting Edan, Lost & Found, Doe, Forensic Artist and Cold Case Files. You guys are great.



:seeya:

www.ProjectEdan.Us
www.DoeNetwork.Us

Good on you findcarrie. I wish we could listen to that program in Australia. I think you're going to be the next Kelly. You're a star. :rose:

[findcarrie]

You can listen to the show in Australia mate, it's online :)))
Just come over to www.WCANRadio.Com and live stream.
There's a link on the page. We are a little different from some of the others and proud of the accomplishments of Edan and Doe.

[Leanne Weich]

Originally posted by findcarrie
You can listen to the show in Australia mate, it's online :)))
Just come over to www.WCANRadio.Com and live stream.
There's a link on the page. We are a little different from some of the others and proud of the accomplishments of Edan and Doe.

Thanks findcarrie. I'll definitely listen.

[findcarrie]

bumping for Carrie. I'm still looking for her and I cant ever rest until she's found. My heart goes out to anyone who is reading this message who is dealing with the same thing as we are (having a missing loved one). May tomorrow be the day all our prayers are answered and yours too.



:rose: :rose: :rose: For Carrie and all the others

[findcarrie]

bumping this for Carrie.

[findcarrie]

This is the location we were at on Monday 8-28-06 just before Carrie's memorial. The loc was burnt to the ground. They are trying to stop us from finding you, but we will. Just wait and see.
Looks like the police have some questions now as well. see below...........

__________________________________________________ __

The murder of Carrie Culberson has been one of the Tri-State's most talked about crimes for the past decade. Culberson's abusive boyfriend, Vince Doan, is spending his life in prison for murder, even though Carrie's body has never been found. New talk about where her remains might be had detectives asking lots of questions in recent months. Then something strange happened that Local 12's Deborah Dixon tells us has cops more curious than ever.

The F.B.I. helped dig up the floor of a barn in Brown County two springs ago because of information Carrie Culberson was killed and buried there. It was during this dig, that people started talking. Different people were saying the same thing.

Debbie Culberson still lives in Blanchester. So, people can tell her what they hear and what they know. Recently, the information about the right barn got hot...really hot.

That's exactly what Penn was doing, and people in town knew it, when something very curious happened. The barn owned by the same family as the other barn burned to the ground in the middle of the night. It was two days before the tenth anniversary of Carrie's disappearance.

Wayne township responded. They determined the barn burning is suspicious. Detective Penn said a burned out barn won't keep him away.

Deborah Dixon, Local 12.

The Messer family filed suit against the police departments that dug up the barn floor two years ago. Since the F.B.I. was involved and the dig was ordered by a judge, the suit is not expected to go far.


http://www.wkrc.com/news/local/story.aspx?content_id=022D4C0C-1333-40EE-B609-E25251A20244

[oldshirley]

Wow, F/C, how "coincidental" that barn burned. I think y'all were on the right track.

[findcarrie]

There are and always have been too many coincidences surrounding Carrie's disappearance. It seems like somebody never wants us to forget but yet when we attempt to put out a feeler to locate her, they want to stop us - which I'd like to add will never stop. Maybe we'll just continue to keep it more discreet.
It's like they worry we might be about to back off and they want to keep the aggrivation up.

Carrie will be found

[oldshirley]

Originally posted by findcarrie
There are and always have been too many coincidences surrounding Carrie's disappearance. It seems like somebody never wants us to forget but yet when we attempt to put out a feeler to locate her, they want to stop us - which I'd like to add will never stop. Maybe we'll just continue to keep it more discreet.
It's like they worry we might be about to back off and they want to keep the aggrivation up.

Carrie will be found

I believe Carrie will be found.
And I believe the idiots toying with you are nothing but big :chicken: _ _ its.
And I believe there will be justice in the end.

[BFD - v2.0]

Originally posted by findcarrie
bumping for Carrie. I'm still looking for her and I cant ever rest until she's found. My heart goes out to anyone who is reading this message who is dealing with the same thing as we are (having a missing loved one). May tomorrow be the day all our prayers are answered and yours too.



:rose: :rose: :rose: For Carrie and all the others

In my opinion, if you get to Fogt, you'll get to some answers.

I think Fogt knows where Carrie's body is at. Possibly Messer as well.

[sadd43]

Can anyone tell me if her car was ever found?

[janna55]

Originally posted by sadd43
Can anyone tell me if her car was ever found?

I do not believe the car was ever found.

[findcarrie]

Carrie's car has been missing since August 28, 1996 along with her.
Michael Fogt has no knowledge of Carrie Culberson's disappearance and murder. Jarrod Messer on the other hand may. Vincent Doan at one time knew where she was. He may not now, but he did at one time.

My statements are factual because of a court of law's finding and information we have regarding this case. I just need to find Carrie's body and bring it home. We know she's deceased but it's a matter of finding her body. Is that too much to ask? I dont think it is.

[Carolyn2005]

I can't imagine missing a loved one, knowing they are dead and not being able to give them a proper burial. That really stinks. :flamemad: Carrie and her family deserve that; not what has happened to them. I live in Mt. Washington and this case what all anyone talked about for a while. It was a shocking case and some of the players (Doans, Bakers etc.) were pretty shady and if they told me it was raining outside I would have to go look fro myself. Anyhow, I am rambling. God Bless Carrie and her family.

[oldshirley]

My thoughts and prayers are with Carrie's family and friends during this Holiday Season. :rose:

[findcarrie]

Court TV will reair the one hour segment regarding the disappearance of Carrie Culberson on Friday, December 29, 2006 beginning at 12:00 noon EST.

Hoping all of you who have not seen this can tune in and watch this. This show gives an in depth look into the disappearance of Carrie and how an Ohio jury convicted her boyfriend of her murder without her body.

Still searching for Carrie.

:rose:

[hinman]

Thanks for the info find carrie. I will be watching.

[findcarrie]

I am not Carrie's mom.

Lawrence Baker was indicted for evidence tampering. His testimony to the jury in his trial was that he gave a bloody shirt and some other items to Lori Baker (the wife of Tracey Baker) and told her to get rid of it. Why the jury did not find that as evidence tampering - I don't know. He was acquitted due to lack of evidence.

We've always had a problem with a lack of evidence and that's because the police chief gave the family warning and several days to destroy vital evidence. Mind you, all my statements have been found in a court of law.

I'd also like to add that because of the police chief's idea to leave that pond unsecured overnight that night, it caused us to loose Carrie. She was removed and taken to another location.

With each day that passes, some believe that we've started to settle into this and accept it, but we haven't. We're still looking for her and won't ever stop until she is found. Right is right and wrong is wrong.

:rose: :rose: :rose: For Carrie
Maybe this new year will be our year to bring you home?

[oldshirley]

FC, as we approach a new year my thoughts and prayers are with you and Debbie and all of Carrie's friends and family.
I pray you find answers in 2007. It's been long enough. It's time for her to be buried properly and for all of you to be able to say goodbye to her.
:rose:

[Leanne Weich]

Carrie's story was on our Criminal Investigation program last night. Absolutly heartbreaking. My prayers go out to you Debbie and Finding carrie.

[RebelAngel]

:rose: :patriot: :rose:
I Pray this year will bring answers

[findcarrie]

Leann,

It's good to see that classes are still using Carrie's case as an example. While @ the same time, it's terrible we are having to be used as an example for someone to learn from. If one young woman can learn from what Carrie went through and (and get away) --- what we continue to suffer from day in day out, then maybe something has been gained from this horrible event.
I keep hoping that somehow we are able to recover her remains so we can all have some peace. It'll never end until Carrie is found.

Thanks to all those who continue to support Carrie and her family. I'll never stop looking.

[PCB50]

:rose:

[HeronInTheSnow]

:rose: :rose:

[findcarrie]

I would like for the discussion about Vincent Doan and his issues, fan club and whatever else that falls in between to be taken off this thread and taken someplace else. We are uninterested in a showdown on personal thoughts of who likes or dislikes Doan. This thread is designated for the case of Carrie Culberson and it will remain that way. I've asked for both Kangaroo and Hunting Dog's (or whatever that name is) jargon to be removed from this because it's inflammatory and disrespectful to the victim. It has no place here.

[Leanne Weich]

Originally posted by findcarrie
Leann,

It's good to see that classes are still using Carrie's case as an example. While @ the same time, it's terrible we are having to be used as an example for someone to learn from. If one young woman can learn from what Carrie went through and (and get away) --- what we continue to suffer from day in day out, then maybe something has been gained from this horrible event.
I keep hoping that somehow we are able to recover her remains so we can all have some peace. It'll never end until Carrie is found.

Thanks to all those who continue to support Carrie and her family. I'll never stop looking.

Let's all hope that with every abduction, murder, assault or whatever, it empowers just one other person to be wary and aware of their circumstances. I know you'll never give up searching carrie. Good on you.

[findcarrie]

On Wednesday of this coming week (Jan. 31, 2007) Carrie would have turned 33 years old. We've created a birthday rememberance page for her. We remember Carrie on every holiday, birthday, and that dreadful 28th of August when she was taken away.

Take a look at the page if you have some extra time. We are still looking for her. She's still missing but NOT forgotten.

http://www.findcarrieculberson.com/CarriesBirthday2007.html

[findcarrie]

Happy Birthday Carrie. I'll find you one day sooner or later. I haven't forgotten you.

1-31-74
1-31-07
:rose: :rose: :rose:

[findcarrie]

Indeed it has been a long time. Memories and thoughts for most seem to fade. My determination only grows stronger as these little things keep happening along the way to try to stop us from finding her. One day, it'll be our turn to be the lucky ones.

[PCB50]

For Your Birthday Carrie!

:rose: :rose: :rose:

[oldshirley]

:rose:

[jaguar girl]

:rose: Happy Birthday Carrie

[StillHoping]

Happy Birthday.
Please come Home.:rose:

[Leanne Weich]

finding carrie - just wanted to let you know that Carrie's story was aired on our Crime Channel last night on the programme Perfect Justice. Debbie is an amazing wsoman.

[Xainia]

Originally posted by Leanne Weich
finding carrie - just wanted to let you know that Carrie's story was aired on our Crime Channel last night on the programme Perfect Justice. Debbie is an amazing wsoman.

We must have watched the same show and I agree.

Debbie is an amazing woman.

I hail from The Hunter Valley NSW.

Xania

[Leanne Weich]

Originally posted by Xainia


We must have watched the same show and I agree.



I hail from The Hunter Valley NSW.

Xania

Mianda, NSW :seeya:

[findcarrie]

Leanne,

Are you talking about the episode from The Investigators - MISSING? What was the title of the show.

[Leanne Weich]

It didn't as far as I recall have a title. It was one of the cases profiled on Perfect Justice, hosted by Erin Brokovitch.

[findcarrie]

It was Final Justice and the title of the show was Traces in a Pond. That show as pretty good but not quite as long and as informative as the American Justice and Court TV presentation.
Carrie's mom is a very strong woman who has worked to help many others because of what happened to Carrie.

Glad they are still airing that segment.

[Leanne Weich]

Originally posted by findcarrie
It was Final Justice and the title of the show was Traces in a Pond. That show as pretty good but not quite as long and as informative as the American Justice and Court TV presentation.
Carrie's mom is a very strong woman who has worked to help many others because of what happened to Carrie.

Glad they are still airing that segment.

Thnks for correcting me fc. It was the first time I'd ever seen this programme. I guess I though it was good because I knew the background. I suppose for someone who knows nothing about the case, it probably lacked a lot. I really admire Carrie's mom - just like I think the Aker family is wonderful. Anyone who can turn their personal tragedy into a positive by helping other people are really inspirational. (KJ too - I think she is my hero in reality).

[findcarrie]

Leanne,

I always try to let people know when those other three shows are going to be on (the 1 hour programs), because there's more content and you all can see more about this case. I think here in the US, Lifetime TV for Women cancelled that show - Final Justice and that's a shame because Erin had some good topics on there.

Personally I think we need a little less reality tv and more things like Final Justice
:patriot:

[findcarrie]

MSNBC Investigates will be reairing the segment titled "Missing or Murdered" on Sunday, March 11th beginning @ 1 PM EST. This show will be featuring the information regarding two missing women (Kristine Kupka and Anna Scivetti) who are believed to have been murdered by their boyfriends, but remain missing. The show will include information on how their families and law enforcement is using the case of Carrie Culberson to possibly move forward with charges where the body remains MISSING.
Hoping everyone is able to see this.


***Special thanks to our dear friend Gil Alba for teaching his students about Carrie's case***

www.AlbaInvestigations.Com

[PCB50]

Thank Goodness!

I know when we were buidling our Case against our Murderer here in Indiana I forwarded Carrie's case to our Prosecutor.

Available tools are valuable only when they are known.

If you know of any case that is lagging, passing along Carrie's case and Karen Jo's can be a valuable tool to the Local Prosecutor's to not only show them how it can be done, but to show the Families that it Can be Done!

Great job to all who are doing this.

For Carrie:rose:
For Karen Jo:rose:

[BobbisAngel]

Didn't the guy who murdered Carrie have a brother that he asked to help dispose of Carrie's body? Didn't he get garbage bags from his house and the wife or girlfriend knew that he had helped the killer? Did the brother admit that he helped dispose of Carrie's body? Seems like the guy had blood all over his pants. Was he ever arrested? Here body hasn't ever been found has it?

[findcarrie]

Vincent Doan's half brother was charged for assisting in helping in the disposal of Carrie's body and car on the night of August 28, 1996. He served 8 years for his role. He was released in Sept. 2005.
Carrie's body and car have never been found. We're still searching for her. See links below for more info.


Baker Found Guilty (http://www.cincypost.com/news/1998/baker060498.html)


More links from the Trials (http://www.findcarrieculberson.com/carrieslinkspg1.html)

[oldshirley]

:rose: for Carrie

[ferretplay]

I watched Carrie's story on American Justice this morning.Very sad.I would like to know what Doan was doing & were he was the first two days Carrie went missing.Sounds like he was missing in action.Was his half brother around?
They had to bury the car,dump it in a river or cut it up.A guy in Wyoming,kidnapped & murder a young girl.He buried her car whole in his backyard.
I believe Vincent is where he should be.Too bad he can't be a man & tell where he put Carrie.
So very sorry for her family & friends.:rose:

[findcarrie]

Read the disappearance timeline that we have on Carrie's website. It has two pages.

Disappearance Timeline Page 1 (http://www.findcarrieculberson.com/disappearancetimeline.html)



Page Two of Disappearance Timeline (http://www.findcarrieculberson.com/carriesdisappearancepg2.html)

Tracey Baker left Blanchester OH the very next morning after Carrie vanished in his tractor and trailer truck.

[findcarrie]

Forgot this in my last post. The person you are referring to that vanished with her CRX but was found dead a few days later in Wyoming was Lisa Marie Kimmell (LILMISS). Her mom is a friend of mine. Her case is not related to that of Carrie Culberson. They just had a Honda CRX.

They found Lisa's killer after 14 years and I figure if they can solve that case then we can continue to wait for Carrie's body to be found. We'll just have to remain patient.


www.Geocities.Com/ForLisaKimmell

Also pick up the book about Lisa's murder
The Murder of LILMISS

[ferretplay]

Yes,I knew that was the Lisa Kimmel case.I followed the case since day one as I live on the route she was taking to her parents.So very sad.
I was speculating as to what they could have done with Carrie's car for not a trace of it to be found.
Thank you for the timelines.They did answer my questions.
:rose: For Carrie,family & friends.So very sorry.:rose:

[BobbisAngel]

Originally posted by findcarrie
Read the disappearance timeline that we have on Carrie's website. It has two pages.

Disappearance Timeline Page 1 (http://www.findcarrieculberson.com/disappearancetimeline.html)



Page Two of Disappearance Timeline (http://www.findcarrieculberson.com/carriesdisappearancepg2.html)

Tracey Baker left Blanchester OH the very next morning after Carrie vanished in his tractor and trailer truck.



Could this Tracey Baker have carried Carrie's car away on his trailer truck? Was this person a friend of Vincents?


I wonder why the half brother wouldn't say where Carrie's body was. After all, he helped dispose of it. He was going to jail regardless so he could have at least cooperated with LE about the where abouts of the body. Did LE offer him any kind of a deal if he told what they did with her? He didn't tell his wife or girlfriend anything?

[findcarrie]

Tracey Baker is not Doan's "friend", he's his half-brother. He never would cooperate with police and he spent 8 years behind bars. He's now out of prison.
His girlfriend and ex-wife testified against him at his trial. Deals were offered both to Doan and Baker but they refused them. All we need is to find Carrie's body.

news links about Tracey
here

http://www.findcarrieculberson.com/carrieslinkspg1.html

[findcarrie]

Below are a few photo highlights from the Cue Center Missing Person Conference 2007 held in Wilmington North Carolina. This year our group was given an award which we did not expect. Many thanks to the CUE Center for this and the continued effort to help those who are missing.

Family of Patty Vaughan, Summer Shipp and FindCarrie
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v639/findcarrieculberson/Album2/CueConference2007/CueConf2007-13.jpg

Just before the vigil
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v639/findcarrieculberson/Album2/CueConference2007/CueConf2007-5.jpg

Angel Garden of Hope Award

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v639/findcarrieculberson/Album2/CueConference2007/CueConf2007-3.jpg

to see the rest of the photos from this event

http://findcarrie.conforums.com

[Leanne Weich]

Originally posted by findcarrie
Below are a few photo highlights from the Cue Center Missing Person Conference 2007 held in Wilmington North Carolina. This year our group was given an award which we did not expect. Many thanks to the CUE Center for this and the continued effort to help those who are missing.

Family of Patty Vaughan, Summer Shipp and FindCarrie
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v639/findcarrieculberson/Album2/CueConference2007/CueConf2007-13.jpg

Just before the vigil
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v639/findcarrieculberson/Album2/CueConference2007/CueConf2007-5.jpg

Angel Garden of Hope Award

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v639/findcarrieculberson/Album2/CueConference2007/CueConf2007-3.jpg

to see the rest of the photos from this event

http://findcarrie.conforums.com

Great photos fc. Congrats on your award, you deserve it.

[RCOOKE]

Jill,

Congrats on your award. It was good to see you again. The conference was even better this year.

Kelly and I talked to Monica after the conference and gave her our feeback. It was just a few suggestions for improvement for next year.

Robert
http://www.rachelcookesearch.org

[findcarrie]

RC,

It was good to see you and some of the others again as well. Each year the conference improves and we always learn new things. It's always my hope that by the time the next year rolls around that all of our missing will be home. There's some really nice people who've come together under such terrible circumstances.

[findcarrie]

AETV's American Justice will be re airing the segment that was filmed in late 2005 regarding the disappearance of Carrie Culberson this coming Thursday, April 5th beginning @ 9 PM EST. This show takes an in depth look into the 1996 disappearance of Carrie Culberson and the conviction of her violent boyfriend, Vincent Doan without her body ever being located.

If you should miss the Thursday April 5th airing, it will re air again in the early morning hours on Friday, April 6, 2007 beginning @ 1 a.m. EST.

I am hoping that everyone can tune in and watch this show. AETV's American Justice was one of several TV shows that did a show regarding Carrie's disappearance. This show in particular shows a lot of information that some of the other shows left off.

For more information regarding Carrie Culberson, please visit:

www.FindCarrieCulberson.Com

Channel Information information in your area:

www.AETV.Com

[Carolyn2005]

WAYNE TOWNSHIP, Ohio -- A Wayne Township man was arrested Saturday following a six-month investigation into an interstate theft and methamphetamine distribution ring, police said.

Investigators said a search of a residence on Marathon Edenton Road turned up four stolen vehicles, two stolen tractors, some stolen construction equipment, 18 firearms and various items related to the manufacture and abuse of methamphetamine.

Jarrod Messer, 36, who lives at the residence, was charged with felony drug possession and misdemeanor theft. He is being held at Clermont County Jail on $100,000 bond.

Investigators said they found methamphetamine at the same residence during a December 2003 search.

A two-week search in 2005 of a barn built on land that had once belonged to Messer turned up duct tape, trash bags and a T-shirt that Clarissa Ann "Carrie" Culberson was wearing days before she disappeared in August 1996, authorities said.

Culberson's former boyfriend, Vincent Doan, is serving a life sentence in prison for her kidnapping and murder. Culberson's body was never found.

Messer, an acquaintance of Doan's, lived on the same property as the barn when Culberson disappeared, although the barn was built afterward.

Authorities said the investigation into the alleged theft and methamphetamine ring remains ongoing.

[findcarrie]

Debra Culberson, whose 22-year-old daughter Carrie disappeared in 1996, will be among the speakers at the National Crime Victims Rights Week event on April 26 at the Syndicate, 18 E. Fifth St., Newport.

"Find Your Voice ... Give a Voice" runs from 4 to 8 p.m., and includes children's events, live music and information booths from 20 community organizations and agencies dealing with crime victim issues.

The program is sponsored by the Women's Crisis Center of Northern Kentucky and is designed for crime victims, their families and friends, and for advocates who work with victims.

Culberson will talk about her ongoing ordeal in her search for her daughter's body, in the hopes of giving her a decent burial.

Carrie Culberson was just 22 when she disappeared one day back in 1996. Her ex-boyfriend, Vincent Doan, was convicted of murdering her a year later and sentenced to life in prison, even though her body was never found.

Even after his conviction, Doan has invoked his Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination when asked about the location of the body.

Also speaking will be Jerome Bowles of the NAACP in Northern Kentucky, and a representative of the Islamic Center. Gilberto Esparza, founder of the Hispanic Resource Center in Northern Kentucky, also will speak. He has been a mentor for youths, a translator in the court system, and advocate for Northern Kentucky's growing Mexican and Central American population, and a member of the Covington Human Rights Commission.

Children's activities will be from 4 to 5 p.m., live music from 5 to 6 p.m. and speakers from 6 to 8 p.m.

The program includes a speak-out for local crime victims to tell their stories, said Nancy Tufts of the Women's Crisis Center, who is helping organize the program.

She calls the event a safe place for the community to honor victims of crime and the people who help them rebuild their lives.

http://news.cincypost.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070423/NEWS01/704230359

[findcarrie]

Originally posted by DeniseVance
That's wonderful, Debra. People so need to be aware of the dangers, the signs, what to do and what can happen. Too bad you can't tell that story just once to everyone... every generation needs to know.

Denise, this is Jill, not Debbie :(
You are right though... too bad she can't tell the story just one time. Too bad we are constantly denied Carrie's location so we cannot bring her home for proper burial but we will find her eventually. We just have to remain focused.

:rose: For Carrie and all the others who are remembered this week as victims.

[findcarrie]

The mother of a Blanchester, Ohio woman who was murdered more than ten years ago will testify at a congressional briefing Wednesday.
Carrie Culberson's remains have never been found even though her boyfriend was convicted of her murder.

Carrie's mother, Debbie Culberson, has worked with Congressman Steve Chabot to provide law enforcement with tools to help solve missing person's cases.

The briefing on missing persons and unidentified remains is hosted by Congressman Chabot.

http://www.wcpo.com/news/local/story.aspx?content_id=8564c59e-877d-45e9-bb9d-16ad23bfb648

[findcarrie]

Brown County a hide-out on night of murder?

Gary Huffenberger
Staff Writer

Advanced DNA technology in the United Kingdom will be applied on southwest Ohio soil and groundwater taken during a 2004 barn excavation conducted by law enforcement looking for the remains of Carrie Culberson.

Culberson's mother, Debra Culberson, confirmed Friday that Brown County Chief Deputy John Dunn has been in contact with a scientist in the United Kingdom about testing the dirt and water samples from the excavation.

The two-week search of an area around a Brown County barn turned up duct tape, trash bags and a T-shirt that Carrie Culberson reportedly wore days before she was murdered in August 1996. However, Culberson's remains were not found, even though cadaver dogs alerted to spots at the site, raising hopes that eventually were dashed.

Dunn was out of the office Friday and not available for comment. A Thursday report on WKRC-TV's Web site included some comments by Dunn.

Dunn believes Culberson was in fact at the area of the barn on the night she was murdered - explaining the reactions of the cadaver dogs plus the presence of trash bags and duct tape. But because none of her remains were uncovered in the excavation, Dunn believes Culberson's body was then taken elsewhere, according to the WKRC-TV online report.

The News Journal on Friday asked Debra Culberson whether she remains hopeful her daughter's remains someday will be located and returned.

"How do you give up the hope? You know, that's all I have left is the hope that we find Carrie during our lifetime," said Culberson. "And whether it be through someone telling or by accident, I don't know. But yes, it's my hope - and always will be my hope - that I find Carrie in my lifetime."
http://www.wnewsj.com/main.asp?SectionID=49&SubSectionID=156&ArticleID=154762

[findcarrie]

By Michael Collins

WASHINGTON - Debra Culberson knows that, after nearly 11 years, if her murdered daughter is ever found, all that will be left will be her skeletal remains.

But she can't let go. Not until she is able to recover whatever is left of the young woman to whom she gave birth.

"I was raised that a body was just a temple for the soul, and I've been told for the last 10 years that Carrie's soul is in heaven," Culberson said. "But being a mother, it is that physical body that I held for so many years, and I need to find out where she is."

Culberson, who lives in Blanchester, has become an outspoken advocate for crime victims' rights, giving speeches across the country, holding training seminars for law enforcement officials and meeting with lawmakers and bureaucrats.

This week found Culberson appearing alongside Ohio Congressman Steve Chabot at a briefing in Washington.

Chabot, a Cincinnati Republican, is pushing a resolution that calls for continued funding of DNA technology for unidentified human remains; more cooperation between federal, state and local law enforcement; and increased access to federal DNA databases for medical examiners.

"Too often, victims of crime are made to be victims a second time as a result of our criminal justice system - the very system designed to protect them," Chabot said.

Culberson's daughter, Carrie, was just 22 when she disappeared in 1996. Carrie's ex-boyfriend, Vincent Doan, was convicted of murdering her a year later and sentenced to life in prison, even though her body was never found.

Since then, Culberson has worked with Chabot to make sure that law-enforcement officials have the necessary tools to solve missing persons cases.

Largely because of their efforts, Congress passed a law in 2004 that requires states and local communities that receive federal funding for DNA testing to report test results for unidentified remains to a nationwide database maintained by the FBI.

Because the federal government doesn't mandate DNA testing of unidentified remains, "a lot of times they are sitting on a shelf in a law-enforcement office or a coroner's office, and they don't know what to do with them," Culberson said. "It's my hope they will eventually mandate testing, which will prevent the cremation of them. Because once they are cremated, you'll never get identification."

A central repository like the FBI database is important so that law enforcement officials will be able to access DNA test results across the nation. In other words, a police officer investigating a case in Ohio would be able to log into the system and see if test results performed elsewhere in the country produce a positive match.

For Culberson, DNA testing could help bring closure if her daughter's remains are ever recovered.

"DNA would be the last effort in trying to identify Carrie," she said.

Ohio Sen. Sherrod Brown says that, when he traveled the state during last year's campaign, he got an earful from families about how far their budgets were stretched. And with gas prices rising, those budgets are being stretched even further.

Brown joined other freshman Democrats in the Senate at a press conference on Thursday to call for a new direction in U.S. energy policy.

The senator noted that Exxon has just announced $9.28 billion in profits for the first quarter, a 10 percent increase from record-setting earnings for the first quarter of 2006.

"The CEO of Exxon makes more than $11,000 an hour, while a minimum wage worker pumping gas at an Exxon station makes less than $11,000 a year," Brown said. "Oil companies reap windfall profits and enjoy billions in tax subsidies while middle-class families foot the bill."

In some parts of Ohio, a gallon of gas will set you back about $3. Yet, the Bush administration refuses to change its energy policy, Brown said.

"If the president won't lead the way to lower gas prices and investment in alternative energy, then Congress will," the senator said.

Brown wants to make alternative energy research and development tax credits permanent. He also supports a plan to have at least 25 percent of U.S. fuel come from U.S.-based, alternative energy sources by 2025.
http://news.cincypost.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070428/EDIT01/704280304/1003/EDIT

[findcarrie]

Bumping Carrie
Still Missing But Not Forgotten
:rose: :rose: :rose:

[RebelAngel]

Always in our thoughts & Prayers

:rose: :rose: :rose:

[findcarrie]

bumping for Carrie. August 28th = 11 years.

[findcarrie]

WILMINGTON - Brenz Salon and Day Spa in Wilmington served as the setting for a scene in a Court TV documentary on the Carrie Culberson investigation Thursday.

Brenda Mahoney, owner of the salon, said she received a phone call last week asking permission to use Brenz as a "host" location for a scene in the documentary

Carrie Ann Culberson, formerly of Blanchester, disappeared on Aug. 28, 1996. Her body was never found, but on March 27, 1997, a Clinton County grand jury indicted her boyfriend, Vincent Doan, on four charges of kidnapping. On Nov. 17, 1997, Judge William McCracken officially sentenced Doan for Culberson's murder.

Culberson was employed as a nail technician in Wilmington at G & G Hair Studio. The salon is no longer in operation.

Libby Sallaway, an employee of Story House Productions (the production company Court TV is using to produce the documentary), said Brenz will be used as a backdrop location for a re-enactment scene of the investigation. The scene depicts Detective Brian Edwards of the Clinton County Sheriff's Department entering the salon to ask questions about Culberson's disappearance. Appearing in the scene are Mallory Minton of Lynchburg, who plays the receptionist, Mahoney, Sarah Arnold of Dayton and Jeanine Anderson of Russelville, who both act the role of Culberson's salon friends.

Sallaway said the documentary would be used for a Court TV segment called "Missing Persons Unit."

Story House Productions, a production company based in Washington, D.C., will be filming in the area until Saturday. The crew arrived last Monday.

"The Clinton County Sheriff's Department has been wonderful," said Sallaway. "We're really grateful for all the help we've received with this documentary."

Sallaway also mentioned she is very pleased with the assistance the production crew received from Massie Township Fire Department.

"They really helped a lot with the search scene we did at Caesar's Creek," she said. "We're just really happy to tell the story of this investigation and the great people who helped it happen."

http://www.recordherald.com/main.asp?SectionID=1&SubSectionID=1&ArticleID=128896&TM=30171.64

[nanabillie]

I hope Carrie's mom knows there are lots of us across the country that still think about her and Carrie. I watched the trial and will never forget. I pray that one day they will find Carrie.
Billie in SC
:rose:

[findcarrie]

They are filming all this week up there. I'm so excited about this. We don't have an air date yet, but as soon as we do, I'll let you all know. Court TV has always been so good to us with regard to Carrie's case. I know that we will find her eventually. It will be 11 long years on the 28th of this month. Maybe this show will prompt someone to give up the information we so desperatly need so we can bring her home for a proper funeral.

Thanks to all who continue to support us.
:rose: :rose: :rose:
For Carrie

[findcarrie]

Remembering Carrie on 8-28-07.
11 Yrs since she vanished. We're still searching for her.

:rose:
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COVINGTON – This year, the Day of Peace observance honors Debra Culberson, a long-time advocate of domestic violence awareness who wants to prevent others from becoming victims like her daughter, Carrie.

Debra Culberson will receive the Amy Jones Advocate Award at Friday's 13th annual Day of Peace observance.

The event from 11 a.m. to 1 p.m. Friday at the Carnegie Visual and Performing Arts Center in Covington promotes peace making and reduction of violence in Northern Kentucky families, neighborhoods and schools. It's supported by about a dozen local groups.

This year's program features appearances by NKU Professor Darrell Payne and NKU head basketball coach Dave Bezold, said Ann Brandon, chairwoman of the Day of Peace committee.

“Domestic violence is not a women's issue,” Brandon said. “It's a human issue. We need everyone – especially good strong male figures – to stand up and say it's not a decent thing to beat women.”

The Day of Peace observance is normally held at the end of September to kick off National Domestic Violence Awareness Month.

However, this year, the event is being moved up a month to coincide with the observance of “Until the Violence Stops: Kentucky,” an international two-week festival to end violence against women and girls, Brandon said. Kentucky has been chosen by V-Day of New York City as one of only two places in the world to host the festival.

Through events such as art exhibitions, discussion panels and a parade recognizing female leadership in Kentucky, supporters will try to end the domestic violence, sexual assault and/or stalking that is the leading cause of injury for women and girls ages 14 to 24, Brandon said. In Kentucky, a woman is beaten every nine seconds.

At last year's Day of Peace observance, organizers honored Amy Jones, the West Chester Township mother who survived three attempts on her life by her ex-husband. Her experiences inspired Amy's Law, which requires those who commit domestic violence in Ohio to appear before a judge for a bond hearing before they are released.

This year, Debra Culberson of Blanchester, Ohio is being recognized after she won a wrongful death suit against local authorities for botching the investigation into her daughter's disappearance and murder 11 years ago. Carrie's boyfriend, Vincent Doan, was convicted of her murder even though her body has never been found.
Debra Culberson, who established a memorial honoring her daughter, speaks to schools and community groups about domestic violence awareness and she has lobbied for the nationwide testing of unidentified remains.

Also featured this year is The Clothesline Project. The display in the Nordheim Gallery on the nearby Holmes High School campus features T-shirts decorated to represent individual women's experiences with domestic violence.

If you go
What: Until the Violence Stops: Kentucky 13th annual Day of Peace
When: 11 a.m.-1 p.m. Friday
Where: Carnegie Visual and Performing Arts Center, 1028 Scott Blvd., Covington
Features: Speakers, award presentations, music and a light lunch.

http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070830/NEWS0103/308300022

[findcarrie]

Reported by: Bill Price
Photographed by: 9News


The devastating problem of domestic violence -- or "DV" -- is getting new attention in Northern Kentucky from a new group: college athletes, as a local coach makes it his mission to keep his players from becoming future abusers.

Researchers say every 15 seconds of every day, a woman in Kentucky is abused or battered by someone she knows.

Programs like the Women's Crisis Center in Covington are now getting unexpected new help to prevent that abuse.

But first, the center heard from one Tri-state family who has been hurt by domestic violence for years.

The annual "Day of Peace" domestic violence conference honored Debbie Culberson on Friday.

She got the conference's first "Outstanding Advocate" award as she stood next to a picture of her daughter, Carrie Culberson.

Carrie was last seen 10-years ago this month, being shoved into a car by her ex-boyfriend, Vincent Doan.

Doan is now serving a life sentence for her death.

Carrie's body has never been found.

"I'm going accept it on behalf of my daughter, Carrie," said Culberson. "Carrie also, [sighs] Carrie gave the ultimate sacrifice."

Efforts to stop domestic violence by Culberson are now getting the support of the Northern Kentucky University (NKU) basketball team.

Their coach says he's warning players that they can't bring their courtside aggression into their relationships with women.

"By teaching our boys ways to handle frustration and anger without using violence or harmful words, we let them know it's okay to walk away when angry or frustrated," said David Bezold, NKU men's basketball coach.

"It's important to let them know they can always come to us, if they feel like things are getting out of hand," added Bezold.

Bezold is the first men's sports coach to address this domestic violence conference.

He was joined by NKU professor Darrell Payne, who studies domestic violence.

Payne says families need to start even earlier teaching these anti-violence lessons to boys.

"And one thing I remember my father teaching me, from being a little boy up to an adult, is that you never put your hands on your sisters or a girl," said Payne, who works in the school's College of Human Services. "That was the rule of our house. That's what stood and that's what I followed."

"I am always in awe of men who will speak out against domestic violence," said Culberson. "So, I appreciate and applaud you and everything that you are trying to do."

Since college basketball players are already role models, Culberson and the center hope that the players will spread the word that domestic violence should not be tolerated.

More than that, the center hopes they can show that domestic violence isn't just a problem for women – it's also a man's problem, too.

http://www.wcpo.com/news/local/story.aspx?content_id=73be05b7-af72-4f93-9a8d-cb41ec5eb6bc

[findcarrie]

Thinking of Debbie and can't wait to hear how her meeting goes with Todd Matthews. They are set to meet today in Washington DC

See article below

The mother of a local woman who has been missing since 1996 is throwing her support behind a new DNA database.

Debbie Culberson was in Washington, D.C., Tuesday for the unveiling of the National Missing and Unidentified Missing Persons System.

The new national database can be used to match unidentified remains with records of missing people.

Though Culberson's daughter Carrie remains missing, Vincent Doan was convicted of her murder in 1997.

http://www.wcpo.com/news/local/story.aspx?content_id=63bc7cfe-9446-4477-a9c1-a14a2998e397

[findcarrie]

JUSTICE DEPARTMENT DEMONSTRATES NATIONAL DATABASE TO MATCH UNIDENTIFIED REMAINS AND MISSING PERSONS INFORMATION


New System Will Help Bring Answers to Families of the Missing

WASHINGTON - Assistant Attorney General Regina B. Schofield of the Department of Justice's Office of Justice Programs (OJP) today joined nationally renowned medical examiners and other prominent speakers in exhibiting a new national database for matching unidentified human remains with records of missing persons.

"Thousands of people, children and adults, vanish under suspicious circumstances every year," said Assistant Attorney General Schofield. "The remains of thousands more sit in coroners' and medical examiners' offices waiting to be identified. This new Internet-based tool will enable investigators, forensics professionals, and the public to cross-reference these records and bring answers to families of the missing."

The database showcased today is the foundation of the National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs) announced by the Justice Department on July 2, 2007. NamUs will address two of the Department's priorities: assisting investigators in solving missing persons cases and helping medical examiners and coroners identify human remains. The NamUs database, which is viewable at http://www.namus.gov, was developed by the National Institute of Justice (NIJ), OJP's research, development, and evaluation component. Ultimately, medical examiners, coroners, law enforcement officials, forensic professionals, and the public will be able to use the database to search and match missing persons records and information about unidentified human remains. Today's meeting at the National Press Club began an OJP outreach effort to solicit the participation of medical examiners and coroners across the United States and inform the public about the resources available through the system.

More than 100,000 missing persons are listed in the FBI's National Crime Information Center, a computerized index of criminal justice information from local, state, and federal law enforcement agencies. Almost half of these individuals have had no known contact for over a year. A recent report from OJP's Bureau of Justice Statistics found that, on average, some 4,400 unidentified human bodies are received in medical examiners' and coroners' offices each year and about 1,000 remain unidentified after one year. In establishing a central reporting system for unidentified remains, NamUs enhances the potential of investigators to solve cases by matching those remains with missing persons records.

The creation of NamUs is part of a major effort by the Department of Justice that began shortly after the September 11, 2001 attacks on the World Trade Center. The recovery effort, and NIJ's work to assist the New York City Medical Examiner's Office in identifying the victims, underscored an ongoing problem in matching missing persons with human remains. In April 2005, NIJ convened a summit of law enforcement officials, medical examiners, coroners, forensic scientists, policymakers, victim advocates, and families of the missing. As a result of the summit, the Department created a National Missing Persons Task Force, which recommended improved access to information about these cases through a national database. The work of the task force complements the President's DNA Initiative, under which the Department is supporting the use of DNA evidence to identify missing persons. The new NamUs database serves as a repository for information such as height, weight, tattoos, scars, and clothing, all of which, like DNA, can be vital to the identification of remains.

"Solving these difficult cases depends on the ability of professionals to access information about physical characteristics," said Assistant Attorney General Schofield. "I hope that medical examiners and coroners across the country will work with us to use the NamUs database to its fullest potential."

Joining Assistant Attorney General Schofield were David Hagy, Acting Principal Deputy Director of NIJ; Jan C. Garavaglia, M.D., Chief Medical Examiner for Orange and Osceola Counties in Florida and host of the Discovery Health Channel's "Dr. G: Medical Examiner;" Randy Hanzlick, M.D., Medical Examiner for Fulton County, Georgia; and Debbie Culberson, a victim advocate from Blanchester, Ohio and mother of Carrie Culberson, who was murdered 11 years ago and whose body has never been found.

The Office of Justice Programs, headed by Assistant Attorney General Regina B. Schofield, provides federal leadership in developing the nation's capacity to prevent and control crime, administer justice, and assist victims. OJP has five component bureaus: the Bureau of Justice Assistance; the Bureau of Justice Statistics; the National Institute of Justice; the Office of Juvenile Justice and Delinquency Prevention; and the Office for Victims of Crime. Additionally, OJP has two program offices: the Community Capacity Development Office, which incorporates the Weed and Seed strategy, and the Sex Offender Sentencing, Monitoring, Apprehending, Registering and Tracking Office (SMART). More information can be found at http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov.

http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/newsroom/2007/OAAG07072.htm

[PCB50]

Out of Tragedy comes Change!

Debbie, along with Todd Mathews have and continue to aid in changing many ways LE handle a Missing Person, and with this action they are doing in Washington, may our UNID be layed to rest proper with their Family able to end this horrible nightmare of the unknown.

((((HUGS))) to All of our Families waiting.

As well as those, like findcarrie, who continue to reach out, support and help us in finding our Missing, for without You, we would seem even more alone.

Patti

[findcarrie]

Thank-you for your words of support. No family should be having to wait to find out if their loved one has been found, but rather sitting on a shelf somewhere unclaimed. We have continue working to find a way to identify these loved ones and bring them home to their families.
It's also time for all organizations to stop with the power struggling and begin to work together on these issues. This not about who gets the case first or who gets the case solved first. It's about helping to bring some sense of peace to these families out here who are dealing with the constant pain of losing somebody they love each day. We could do so much more if everyone could set aside their creative differences and come together on this crisis.

[CJMMAMA07]

Bumping for Carrie and her family. You are not forgotten.:rose:

[findcarrie]

The House last week overwhelmingly passed - 389-1 - a resolution from Rep. Steve Chabot that expresses the House's commitment to providing a voice to victims of families involved in missing persons and unidentified human remains cases.

The resolution stems from a Cincinnati-area case.

Debra Culberson of Blanchester lost her daughter, Carrie Culberson, when she was murdered in 1996. Although her daughter's former boyfriend was convicted of the murder, her daughter's remains have not been recovered.

"This resolution highlights the importance of law enforcement agencies acquiring the tools and working together at all levels to identify human remains so families and loved ones can have closure," said Chabot, a Westwood Republican who co-chairs the Congressional Caucus for Missing and Exploited Children.

The resolution calls for continued federal funding for DNA testing and a database used to identify victims, greater cooperation between local, state and federal law enforcement officials, and more training for these law enforcement agencies on missing persons cases.

It also seeks to provide medical examiners and coroners with better access to federal databases so victims - such as Carrie Culberson - can be located, identified and returned to their loved ones. The lone no vote: Rep. Ron Paul of Texas.

http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071001/COL16/710010391/1099/NEWS01

[findcarrie]

Fed to hogs, strapped in her car and crushed, dismembered with a chainsaw and scattered across the country.

In the 10 years since her disappearance, those are just some of the rumors about what happened to Carrie Culberson's body. They haunt the Tri-State community where her boyfriend, Vince Doan, killed her 10 years ago.


Most of the key players in Culberson's murder case still live in tiny Blanchester. Today, while Vince Doan is still trying to get a new trial, Local 12's Deborah Dixon checks in on the people involved in the case and finds out just how far Debbie Culberson will go to find Carrie.


Debbie Culberson still lives in the village where her daughter, Carrie, was last seen alive. Last seen being beaten by boyfriend Vince Doan. His family still lives here too. Debbie sometimes sees his father, Lawrence Baker, up town. Debbie says when she sees Lawrence she gives him a nod and a wave to let him know that she is not going anywhere and that she will not be intimidated.


Debbie is not intimidated by Tracey Baker either. She was in court earlier this year when Vice Doan's half brother was convicted of domestic violence. Baker came back home after doing eight years for helping Vince hide Carrie's body. Debbie says she also wants Tracey to know she isn't going anywhere. "My focus is on trying to find Carrie, If it means keeping an eye on you and what you're doing that's what I'm going to do"


Nearly all the players in this sad story still live together in Blanchester, more than a decade after the town was turned upside down by murder.


Tracey Baker now lives in the house where Vince lived when Carrie was killed. The witness, who saw Vince twist Carrie's arm behind her back, punch her and tell her 'I told you the next time I'd kill you' on the night she disappeared, still lives in the same house, too. Tracey's ex-wife, Lori Baker, still lives there as well. She testified in court that the night Carrie disappeared, Vince showed up at the house covered in blood, then left with Tracey, seven garbage bags and a gun. Before Lori knew Carrie was missing, she was thinking dismemberment.


Debbie worked with the Justice Department to create a DNA Database to match unidentified remains with missing people. Debbie just wants to bury her daughter's bones.


So, what's in it for Vince Doan? Clinton County Detective, Brian Edwards, says "if he were to tell us where she's at and we were able to recover remains, we would definitely be open to negotiating a new sentence."


A new sentence that could set Vince Doan, who is serving a life term, free.


Culberson's mother says, "if he would tell them where she is and they wanted to release him tomorrow, I wouldn't care."


Vince and his family do not want to talk. His mother says she believes her son is innocent.


Supporters are looking ahead to another appeal. One court already upheld Doan's conviction and the Ohio Supreme Court refused to consider his case. Doan's attorney says Vince has no information to share. However, if his appeals run out, some wonder if that could change.


Debbie Culberson won a lawsuit against the Village for the Police Department's mishandling her daughter's murder. The insurance company paid the settlement. Carrie's family agreed to less than the jury award.

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[findcarrie]

Tuesday, December 18, 2007 beginning @ 4 a.m. EST, Court TV will re-air MISSING which is the one hour presentation regarding the disappearance of Carrie Culberson. Please check your TV Guide for Court TV channel listing. This is one of the better presentations regarding the disappearance of Carrie.

For more info. on Carrie's case, including updates, etc., visit her website at:

www.FindCarrieCulberson.Com

[my2children]

I have followed this case since it first became public. I remember watching parts of Vince Doan's trial and all the segments that has aired this horrific story of Carrie. I just wanted to send along my thoughts and prayers to Carrie's family and friends and pray that one day she can finally be laid to rest properly.

:rose: :wreath: For Carrie her family and friends

[deep*fear]

:rose: Carrie