Carrie Culberson [msg. 1996]

Originally posted by herlock
I don't know what to think about that. I hope the retrial isn't granted. I would hate that more money was wasted on him. Additionally, I wouldn't want him to get any satisfaction from being the center of attention and "in control" once again. Yuck.


:confused: I agree. I also don't know what to think about this.

[oldshirley]

Well, the main focus of this thread should be to find Carrie and bring her home to her family and friends.
I don't really give a rats @$$ what happens to mr d

[PCB50]

Originally posted by oldshirley
Well, the main focus of this thread should be to find Carrie and bring her home to her family and friends.
I don't really give a rats @$$ what happens to mr d

Ditto OldShirley,

Why must we continue to waste money where there is already a conviction?

My head continues to shake to all the ignorant people who do Not know what is going on! We who have a Missing Loved One know the pain and suffering that continues to go on even after the Conviction is brought down. Our supporters who do not even have a missing see our pain!

To those who do not know what it is like to have a Missing/Presumed Murdered Loved One, I wish I could tell you what book to read, movie to see, or even let you in my heart and feel the pain. I cannot. There is no way to explain what We feel when You have literally Lost a Loved One and Cannot find them! Period! You Never Stop Searching! You Never Stop wanting to know. Just let me find a piece of them and I may begin the healing process, until then, the pain continues!

Rot in H#@** You murdering blankety blanks who continue to hide your crimes. The Lord knows and You will pay when You get in H#@% for what You have done on Earth!

Sorry for the brief hysteria, just another blip of what goes on when You Miss Your Loved One!

IN Hope in Indiana!

[oldshirley]

Hey MK :seeya:

I think it's the fact that they sit behind bars all nice & warm & cozy when the missing loved one is out there somewhere and then to have people who support the accused, it takes the focus off finding the missing person.
All jmo of course.

Originally posted by greta
Old Shirley,a new trial was requested at the first and second state appeals,this is the federal level and this is Mr. Doans last appeal,after this ,there is nothing more .

I work in the court system and I have to tell you that I hate the way the system works sometimes. But it is the system we have and we have to deal with it. He has the right to appeal his case. I will tell you that there is good chance that this did just fall into the courts lap. I know our courts are backed up and we are a small town, so on the federal level I am sure it is. I am confident in our system that the federal court of appeals will up hold the decision made by the trial judge. After that we can all sleep easy that he is were he needs to be.

[Justins Mom]

Originally posted by herlock
Thanks for the info Greta, now we can all keep our fingers crossed that his appeal is rejected!

Herlock

ditto.

[Justins Mom]

I hope they find something before all of this

[oldshirley]

The one thing that must be done is maintain patience and believe that good will prevail in the end and somehow it will be uncovered where Carrie is.

Maybe I watch too many cold case file shows, but I believe that someday, somehow, Carrie will be found and she'll be brought home to her family and friends.
I think the truth always comes out, sooner or later.

[findcarrie]

Call For DNA Database Of Unidentified Remains

LAST UPDATE: 7/14/2004 6:55:06 PM

direct article link:

http://www.wkrc.com/news/local/story.aspx?content_id=F508A608-576B-4AA5-93C5-66DC6A307A8D

[Justins Mom]

FC - If there is a petition that Carries Mom can get started, let us know as I will be 1st on line in signing it.

[findcarrie]

Justins' Mom:

This is something that might be really good to do. I would have to ask her mother if she is ok with this before I take it upon myself to do it. I dont do anything without her consent because I'm a 3rd party you see. I'd want her to talk it over with the Prosecutor's office and the rest of the direct family. This is a good idea though :)

[oldshirley]

"She could be sitting on someone's shelf. Without testing I'll never know," said Culberson.

When I read that, I got chills. How awful for a mom to have to think thoughts like that.
If someone out there knows where she is it's time they told so this mom can have some (for lack of a better word) "closure".
:rose:

I think this is a wonderful idea. This could very well help a lot of people that have loved ones that have never been found. I hope this comes to happen.
I also feel that a petition is a wonderful idea. I would be more then happy to help with this!!!

[HeronInTheSnow]

and I hate to sound callous, but in an election year, it may have a better chance of being passed.

peace

[Justins Mom]

It would bring closure to many parents and loved ones of the missing, especially with the advances in DNA these days.

[oldshirley]

and I hate to sound callous, but in an election year, it may have a better chance of being passed.

I don't think that's callous--it's reality. You have to use whatever resources are at your disposal when you're desperate and I can only imagine that if your child is missing, you are definitely desperate for answers.
Anyway, politicians use situations to their advantage so why not use election years to get important laws passed :shrug:
The way I see it is, ya do what ya have to do

Any new information yet? Soil samples?

[findcarrie]

Vincent Doan was found GUILTY of Carrie Culberson's murder. He was sentenced to life without parole. Court TV aired the Ohio V. Doan trial in March of 2003.

Court TV is aware of the new findings/developments in the Culberson case. I do think your emails are postive reinforcment to help them in this push for mandatory DNA testing on human remains.
If anybody questions that, they (Court TV) were made aware by others not the accused publicity seeking Culbersons (as stated by the Doan supporters).

Also the trip to DC that Ms. Culberson made was made public because Debra Dixon(Channel 12 Investigative Reporter) called and found out where she was. She sent media there on her own, not because anybody asked her to.
I'm sorry but I feel as if I must post this information for all concerned viewers because the general public needs to hear factual information and not these demented rumors that are floating about Carrie Culberson and her family.

[starling]

I just think of Carrie with all the searching in the Utah landfill for Lori Hacking :(
Both so beautiful and both deserved full lives

for justice and closure
:rose: :rose:

[Justins Mom]

Any New News on Carie Culbersons Case?

[findcarrie]

All updates available to the general public can be found on the Missing Carrie Culberson thread.

[findcarrie]

Just wanted to say Thanks to **. Nancy Grace from Court TV for attending the POMC this weekend and supporting Carrie Culberson and also her kind comments and thoughts to us during the trial of Ohio v. Doan. A very cool lady.




:seeya:

[kcharjay01]

God Bless Carrie Culberson and to the supporters of Carrie, God Bless you too!!

[findcarrie]

Thanks - we are still continuing to search for Carrie.

[findcarrie]

I just wanted to welcome somebody to this board who knows Carrie Culberson better than any of us and tell that person that I'm glad they finally made their way to the board. They can reply to my message here, and let me know they got on ok. We are all learning new things each day pertaining to computers and the net. Sometimes this causes some delays but it's all worked out now.

:seeya: :) ;)

[oldshirley]

:seeya:
Hi special friend of Carrie's and Findcarrie. Welcome to the boards. :seeya:

[basketball]

8 yrs.!! We'd seen a documentary about her but didn't realize
it'd been that long since she disappeared. That poor family...:rose: :rose:

[findcarrie]

They have had a few shows about Carrie. Do you recall which show you saw? Probably on the System on CTV?
It will have been eight (8) years since Carrie's disappearance on August 28th of this month. It has been much too long for her family who seeks answers.

Matter of fact, any amount of time a person is missing is too long for any family.

[findcarrie]

Eight (8) years ago today, August 28, 1996, Clarissa Ann Culberson, a.k.a., Carrie Culberson disappeared from Blanchester, Ohio. My thoughts are with the Culberson family tonight as they have the vigil to remember Carrie. :rose:

Originally posted by findcarrie
Eight (8) years ago today, August 28, 1996, Clarissa Ann Culberson, a.k.a., Carrie Culberson disappeared from Blanchester, Ohio. My thoughts are with the Culberson family tonight as they have the vigil to remember Carrie. :rose:

Thoughts and prayers to the Culberson family on this sad day.

For Carrie Culberson
:rose:

fourboys

[oldshirley]

:rose: :rose: :rose:

[findcarrie]

Originally posted by fourboys


Thoughts and prayers to the Culberson family on this sad day.

For Carrie Culberson
:rose:

fourboys

Cindy,
Just wanted to say thank-you for teaching me how to find updated news articles on Carrie during the past excavation that went on back in April and for keeping the updated information on all the missing people on your site.

[PCB50]

Prayers, Faith and
:rose: :rose: :rose:
For Carrie and All her Family & Friends

IN Hope

[starling]

Originally posted by findcarrie
Eight (8) years ago today, August 28, 1996, Clarissa Ann Culberson, a.k.a., Carrie Culberson disappeared from Blanchester, Ohio. My thoughts are with the Culberson family tonight as they have the vigil to remember Carrie. :rose:

:rose:

Thanks for providing all the information on this sad case. You are all in my thoughts tonight.

Blessings and peace,

Herlock

When my daughter was murdered, I chose to 'know' the suspect in my case.

Somehow I felt, and ultimately found insight into his motives, his persona.
I guess I felt I had to look evil in the face.

That was a part of my healing.

b

lets all face it no matter which side we are on WE WANT THE TRUTH TO COME OUT , AND WE ALL WANNA KNOW WHERE CARRIE IS
thanks ,
dobermom

Baron,

Sorry about your loss. I understand that anger is one of the healing process for a family who has lost a loved one. God Bless you and I'm sure your daughter is looking down at you from Heaven.

[oldshirley]

This is the Carrie Culberson thread-PERIOD.
For Carrie :rose:
For Carrie's mom :rose:
For Carrie's friends :rose:

I start with a quotation from a book, "Men and Grief", by Carol Staudacher. Her words are as follows:

Surviving the loss of a murdered child is one of the cruelest tests of human endurance and sanity a parent can experience. To remain sane and alive under such circumstances is an accomplishment.
Unless people themselves have had a similar experience, they are unlikely to be able to understand how far these consequences of crime extend.

If the murder is unsolved, then there is the question of the identity and the motive of the criminal.
Every friendship, every relationship that we have, is threatened. There is the sheer economic cost of this death - the expense of the funeral, of travel for relatives, of loss of the income of the person killed.

Many people dissociate themselves from the victims of misfortune as if it were contagious.

I am a parent of a murdered child.
Forgive me any anger or pain I may have caused others by my prior posts.

[findcarrie]

The mother of a Brown County woman missing and presumed dead "button-holed" Ohio Attorney General Jim Petro while he was in town Thursday night.

Debbie Culberson, mother of Carrie Culberson, approached Petro after giving a speech at the Crimestoppers convention downtown.

Read the full article here:

http://www.wcpo.com/news/2004/local/09/02/petro_culberson.html

Supporting you 100% Ms. Culberson :rose:

[findcarrie]

This Sunday marks eight years since Carrie Culberson of Blanchester, Ohio disappeared.

Friends of the Culberson family say they want Carrie's mom Debbie to know that they will always support her -- and that finding Carrie's body still needs to be done.

On a quiet evening in Blanchester, Ohio, members of the Highland County Domestic Task Force were out to support a friend.

Read the full article here:

http://www.wcpo.com/news/2004/local/08/29/culberson.html




Forgot to post this last Sunday. It's a little late.

[oldshirley]

Findcarries, thanks for posting that link.
She's such a beautiful young lady. My heart goes out to her family and friends. :rose:

[kcharjay01]

Thanks Jill for posting the link about Carrie, and her mom.

:rose: for Carrie and all the others that are missing loved ones and that are trying to find them.

My thoughts and prayers are with all that love and search for Carrie.

Not knowing is such an awful thing.

Keeping the Faith,
FindLorne


:rose: for Carrie and all others that are missing

[oldshirley]

Resty, that is beautiful. :rose:

[KellyJolkowski]

I agree!

Thank you.

Kelly

[findcarrie]

Just wanted to say Tybee - THANK YOU for clarifiying what I knew was untrue, and Resty for the roses on here for Carrie. I've chosen to fall back off of this thread unless I have any news articles pertaining to Carrie. Things have gotten real crazy on her threads and that is defeating the purpose of helping to locate her. I appreciate the support of those who have stuck with us through all the ugliness. I appreciate the clarification and I regret that our thread was closed on Websleuths, although I understand their decisions.

[findcarrie]

Resty,

I'm going to respond back because what you said means a lot to me. Anytime you are doing something positive, you are going to always encounter those who want to knock you out of the way and stop what you are trying to do. Sometimes it will come in the form of posting a hateful comment, spreading fear with a rumor, or some other ridiculous thing. If you always keep your intentions and your actions clear and concise, the truth will always prevail in the end. I know that there are people like that. As somebody who appears to be new to helping those who are missing. I offer you this peice of information. Do what you have to do, but watch out for yourself because there are what my granny used to like to say - Wolves walking among the sheep. Just remember if your intentions are good, the truth will come out and it wont matter what anybody else says. That's how I feel about Carrie and all other obstacles that I've had to overcome. Never forget that.

I apologize for the long post. Good to see another caring person on the board for those who are missing.

:rose: :rose: :rose: for all those missing, their famililes, and those good people who are looking for them.

[findcarrie]

Monday, September 13, 2004 at 8 p.m. Eastern Standard Time Court TV's The System will air the Carrie Culberson Disappearance story "MISSING".

[oldshirley]

Findcarrie, would you remind us about this again on Monday? Thanks.
I'm forgetful. (at that age ya know)

[findcarrie]

Originally posted by oldshirley
Findcarrie, would you remind us about this again on Monday? Thanks.
I'm forgetful. (at that age ya know)

OS:

You asked me to remind you all again today about the Court TV episode on Carrie and here it is for tonight:

Monday, September 13, 2004 at 8 p.m. Eastern Standard Time Court TV's The System will air the Carrie Culberson Disappearance story "MISSING".

For Carrie, & her family :rose:

[oldshirley]

Thanks Findcarrie. I'm gonna try to watch it.
for Carrie :rose:

Originally posted by findcarrie


OS:

You asked me to remind you all again today about the Court TV episode on Carrie and here it is for tonight:

Monday, September 13, 2004 at 8 p.m. Eastern Standard Time Court TV's The System will air the Carrie Culberson Disappearance story "MISSING".

For Carrie, & her family :rose: I thank you, too. I saw this post a few days ago and would have missed it if not for your thoughtful reminder. Many of us are soooo busy today - as I'm sure you are, too. Time gets away from us and we need our 'friends' as reminders.

Thank you again. I will be watching with youngshirley tonight, as I hope many more are. Such a tragic case.

AML - rosie :rose:

I was rather disappointed in 'The System' this evening. ~JMO~ I felt the story was rather biased for Vincent Doan. My gosh - the pictures they aired of Carrie after one of Vinnie's outbursts . . . his two personalities - how could anyone not see through this masquerade? The witnesses presented on behalf of the defense???

Was it just me because I am so biased and want and pray so desperately for Carrie to be found and laid to rest peacefully?

Was it me because I find small town cliquish bullying families so offensive??

Please share your thoughts.

rosie

:rose:

[oldshirley]

Well shoot, I got busy and didn't see it. But, if it favored you-know-who, I'm glad I didn't see it.
The focus should be on getting Carrie home--period.

[PCB50]

Saw it, and got a bit more out of this showing than previous ones. I personally thought the same thing! They did tend to favor Doan to a degree. I liked the added ending when they showed the Sheriff and others being arrested and hauled off.

A jury of 12 convicted and sentenced this so called man. I liked the 2 juror's who were on the show. Honest and had integrity, along with the brains to see through the little guy with the Mr. Roger's sweater on.

I agree MsRose. The small town bullying of this little town is almost, mind boggling. Of course in a small town of Ohio I am very grateful that Carrie's Family got the Justice that they deserved. Now if only we can bring Carrie home.

:rose: For Carrie
:rose: For Karen Jo
:rose: For All of our Missing Loved Ones

IN Hope

[findcarrie]

When Court TV did the segment on Carrie's disappearance, they did the show in the most neutral way to allow the viewer's to form their own opinions of whether or not Vincent Doan is guilty or innocent. I don't think that the show told all the important facts about Carrie's disappearance. That is why it has been my mission to have more information for anyone who isn't sure and seeks to research it further. There is more to this story - you all should read these articles on this page if you have some spare time. I also strive to provide the viewers with documented materials found in a court of law to not leave you with even more confusion and displaced anger, should you have those feelings toward anyone involved.


http://www.findcarrieculberson.com/carrieslinkspg1.html

FindCarrie,

Just want to let you know that you are doing a great job and helping all of those that love and miss Carrie!

I missed the showing of Court TV as I did not get that channel :flamemad: , but it is good to know just who to contact about information.

I want to let you know that Carrie's website WILL be added to the back of the Walking Them Home shirts.
Thank you for signing up....

Talk soon,
FindLorne

:rose: For all that are missing!

[findcarrie]

Louise,

Do you know what the front of the shirts will look like? I was just curious if it will have that new picture that shows Lorne's face above the road? No matter what artwork you all use, I am sure they will look good and thank-you for allowing me to participate and for putting Carrie's address on the shirts.

[findcarrie]

9-22-04
Complete Article:
http://www.kypost.com/2004/09/22/crisis092204.html

New director of Crisis Center guest speaker

The new director of the Women's Crisis Center will make her public debut as a speaker for the center at the 10th annual Day of Peace .Oct. 1 at the Carnegie Visual + Performing Arts Center in Covington.
Kimberely Adams, attorney and former director of the Boone County Conservancy, was named director of the center in August, replacing retiring director Mary Jo Davis.

Donations
• Retirement gifts for Mary Jo Davis, the outgoing director of the Women's Crisis Center, may be made as donations to the newly established Mary Jo Davis Fund for the center's endowment.
• Checks should be mailed to Women's Crisis Center, 835 Madison Ave., Covington, Ky. 41011-2413.

A reception honoring Davis and introducing Adams is scheduled from 4 to 6 p.m. Thursday at the Kenton County Public Library in Erlanger.

At the Day of Peace program, "I'll be talking about domestic violence and the mission of the center," said Adams, an attorney who set up the family court for Boone and Gallatin counties.

That mission is to stop domestic violence, rape and sexual abuse and to empower survivors. The center runs shelters for abused women and children, provides counseling and support and runs education programs for schools and community groups.

Adams has been meeting with community and school leaders and getting acquainted with the crisis center's staff and programs. She took over as the agency was completing its capital fund drive to expand its crisis shelter in Maysville. That drive is continuing and the shelter is expected to open in early 2005.

One of Adams' first moves was to appoint Stephanie Stewart as capital campaign manager for the shelter project. She replaced longtime development director Joyce McNeely, who left this summer to become vice president of marketing and development for Health Point Family Care.

Stewart had been a volunteer with the Women's Crisis Center in the Maysville area.

The Day of Peace is part of a national movement each October to educate the public about domestic violence. It's scheduled from 11 a.m. to 12:30 p.m. to allow people to stop in over their lunch hour.

Speakers will share personal stories of how domestic violence has touched their lives.

Gil Esparza, director of the Hispanic Resource Center in Covington, will talk about his sister, who was killed in Texas two months ago by a stalker.

Debra Culberson, of Blanchester, Ohio, will talk about her daughter, Carrie, who disappeared in 1996 in what became one of the most infamous cases of domestic abuse in the tri-state. Carrie's boyfriend was convicted of her murder, but her body has never been found.

Willie Elliott, professor at NKU, will talk about men's role in fighting domestic violence. Sgt. Nikki Henderson, a retired Louisville police officer, will talk about elder abuse.

[findcarrie]

Confirmed resources have stated that ONE of four samples taken from the excavation site on the Fayetteville-Blanchester Road site have been determined to be negative for bone fragments of Carrie Culberson. There are STILL three other samples that are currently being tested. The completion date on those is unknown at this time, however they are still being observed by forensic officials.

Also, October 1st is recognized as the Day of Peace for those working closely with the National Coalition of Domestic Violence, which kicks off the whole month of October to commerate this global problem and efforts to stop it. Debbie Culberson is a big advocate of this program and this day will be of great importantance to the Culberson family being that Carrie died at the hands of domestic violence.

[findcarrie]

COVINGTON - Debra Culberson doesn't want the same thing that happened to her daughter to happen to other women.

The mother of Carrie Culberson, whose boyfriend had a history of abusing her and was convicted of her 1996 murder, was one of the guest speakers at the Day of Peace celebration Friday in Covington. The event drew about 100 people to kick off Domestic Violence Awareness Month in October.

According to the event co-chairs, Ann Brandon and Tracy Denham, Day of Peace hopes to promote peace making and reduce violence in families, neighborhoods and schools in Northern Kentucky.

"We're trying to get the word out to the community about domestic violence, dating violence, even elder abuse," said Maureen Rich, event committee member.

"While domestic violence (awareness) has come a long way, we still have a long way to go," Denham said.

Kim Adams, executive director of the Women's Crisis Center, told the crowd gathered at the Carnegie Visual and Performing Arts Center, "Organizations like the crisis center are here to help. But we can't do it without the help of the community."

Covington Mayor Butch Callery also read a proclamation declaring October as Domestic Violence Awareness month in Covington, saying the city was pledging a "commitment to educating Kentuckians on domestic violence."

T-shirts that domestic violence victims made at the crisis center were hung in the main reception room.

"The T-shirts are a way victims of domestic violence express their feelings and tell what's in their heart," Brandon said.

One yellow shirt read, "You say to me 'I love you,' and then you beat me black and blue... ha ha, I got away and gone I plan to stay."

Youth Out Front, a group of students from Holmes and Scott high schools, acted out skits illustrating how violence in teens can stem from violence in the home.

The students ended their performance by stating aloud to the audience, "If only you knew, you'd try to understand."

Willie Elliott, professor of social work at Northern Kentucky University, spoke about the role men have in stopping domestic violence. Elliott said he was a former abuser.

"I'm here to tell you there is a chance for (abusers) to change," he said.

Culberson spoke of her daughter's violent encounters with boyfriend Vincent Doan, who is now serving a life sentence for her murder. She said she warned her daughter he was getting more violent, but Carrie protected him and stayed in the relationship.

The 22-year-old Clinton County woman's body has never been found.

"The greatest self-defense you can have is (to) not get in the relationship in the first place," Elliott said. "Fifty percent of women murdered are trying to get out of the relationship."

Culberson said it's too late to help her daughter, but not for others.

"We've got to get the word out, and do what we can do to stop it," she said. "If I can help one young woman - that's why I'm here."
http://www.enquirer.com/editions/2004/10/02/loc_loc2dopeace.html

[findcarrie]

WASHINGTON -- Even today, eight years later, Debra Culberson still wonders what happened to her daughter.
Was her body thrown into the Ohio River, as prosecutors suspect? And, if so, whatever became of her remains?

Not knowing is hard. So is knowing that what's left of Carrie Culberson might be sitting in a box in God-knows-where, just waiting for somebody to come along and claim her remains.

"I have talked to a lot of law enforcement officers and asked them what they did when they found remains,'' said Debra Culberson, who lives in Blanchester. "They said a lot of time they didn't know what to do with them, so they were put into a box and put on a shelf.

"With the possibility of Carrie being thrown into the Ohio River, her remains could have been found from here to wherever the Ohio River flows. So what good is it going to do us? How is it going to help me if Carrie is found in Missouri and put in a box on a shelf?''

Enter Steve Chabot. The Cincinnati congressman is pushing legislation that would require states and local communities that receive federal funding for DNA testing to report test results on unidentified remains to a nationwide missing-persons database.

The bill cleared the House this week and now goes to a conference committee, which must work out differences with a similar version passed earlier in the Senate. If the bill becomes law, it just might spare other parents the kind of anguish that has tormented Debra Culberson for years.

"You imagine so many things,'' she said. "What happened to her might not be as gruesome as what you think. But we hear the rumors of what might have happened, and it all becomes visual. We have to relive this every time we hear a story about what happened to Carrie.''

Carrie Culberson was just 22 when she disappeared one day back in 1996. Her ex-boyfriend, Vincent Doan, was convicted of murdering her a year later and sentenced to life in prison, even though her body was never found. Even after his conviction Doan has invoked his Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination when asked about the location of the body.

Thus, Debra Culberson has been on a mission to find her daughter's missing body and give her a proper burial. Problem is, states aren't required to do DNA testing on unidentified remains. And even when they do, many of them don't report the information to the national database, which means that relatives back in Ohio would have no way of knowing when a loved one's remains turned up in, say, Mississippi.

Frustrated, Culberson turned to Chabot for help. What she wanted was mandatory DNA testing for all unidentified remains. Though the bill that passed this week doesn't go that far, it does make $2 million available to states to test unidentified remains. States that accept the money are required to report the data to the FBI's national missing-persons database.

Currently, the database contains just 237 DNA samples from unidentified remains. And yet, the FBI estimates there are as many as 40,000 remains across the country that have not been identified.

"It's totally unnecessary,'' Culberson said. "With the technology we have today, there is no reason why we should have unidentified remains.''

Chabot's bill takes Culberson one step closer to her goal of mandatory testing. "We'll just have to see where this first step takes us,'' she said.

The more immediate problem is getting the legislation through Congress.

Besides the DNA portion, the bill includes a number of victims' rights provisions that Chabot has been pushing for years, such as guarantees of timely restitution and the right for victims to be included and publicly heard during court proceedings involving their cases.

With Congress expected to be on extended break until after the Nov. 2 elections, time is running out for the bill to win final approval this year. Chabot's office, however, said there's still enough time for the conference committee to finish its work after the elections and for the measure to be approved this year.

Culberson certainly hopes so. "That may be the only way we'll find Carrie,'' she said. But, "I won't give up hope until they find her.''
http://www.cincypost.com/2004/10/09/collins100904.html

[KellyJolkowski]

This is exellent news. Let's pray that this makes it through. It is so needed. There was recently a case wherein the deceased had been found in one state and lived in another. It was 4 years before anyone figured out who it was. Meanwhile, the family was in that limbo state of waiting and not knowing. God bless Debra for fighting for this, depsite her personal pain with the loss of Carrie.

Please be sure to update everyone is there is anything the public can do to push this through.

Thank you.

Kelly

[findcarrie]

If there was two things I could do for the missing, there would be two things. I apologize for this post being long, but I want to say this.

1. Is make our judicial system see the importance of repeat offenders such as Alfonzo Rodriguez, and Richard Allen Davis. Something to STOP these predators from being able to get back out into society to possibly move up from rape to murder. There is TOO much of this happening.

2. I would make it mandatory for all remains to be put into a database and be searched and compared one time a week. An example of what can happen is with the Russell Jordan case. This young man's remains were found after he was missing for 12 years. They were set in a box up on a shelf at the coroner's office and sombody ( a cleaning person perhaps) came in and threw them away. :cuss:
Although he had been indetified finally after they decided to compare what they had found a few years earlier, he was lost again. People do not realize that these little bones were once a human being who somebody loves and misses every single day.

I feel like some of these slips through the cracks could be prevented if people were made to take these issues more seriously. Ms. Culberson is a fighter for rights for Carrie and for other people who have had to deal with this type of thing. We cant sit down and shut up when it comes to finding these people. I feel postive that this law will pass eventually and maybe it can help somebody's family find out where that person they love is and what happened to them. Nobody should have to sit and wonder what hapened to their loved one at the hands of the laziness of those who can do something to help.

Amen- to everything you just stated. You have my support.

Brightstars

[findcarrie]

The mother of a murdered Blanchester woman is throwing her support behind a local congressman running for re-election.

Debbie Culberson appears in a powerful new campaign ad which airs next week.

Culberson says US Representative Steve Chabot has helped her accomplish something she's been fighting for for years.

Together, she says, they helped pass new legislation that could help bring peace to the families of victims around the country-- and maybe one day, could help find Culberson's daughter.

"Hi, my name's Debbie Culberson. My daughter Carrie was murdered in 1996 and her remains were never found," says Culberson in the ad.

In less than 30 seconds, Culberson shares eight years of heartache.

It's part of a moving political ad airing Monday.

"I went to Congressman Chabot, in the hopes of creating a national database," Culberson says in the ad.

"She came in and told me her story," said Steve Chabot, "and we've all here in this area heard about it on the news, but when you're confronted with it in person, you want to do everything you can to help her."

Chabot met Culberson back in July when she came to him for help.

She wants to make sure whenever a body is found, it's always tested for DNA.

That way, if human remains are discovered anywhere in the country-- she'll know whether or not they could belong to her daughter.

"With the possibility of Carrie being thrown into the Ohio River, she could be anywhere from here to wherever the Ohio River flows," said Culberson. "She could be sitting in a box on somebody's shelf in Missouri. and I thought, well how am I ever going to know that?"

Together, they drafted new legislation which provides funding for local law enforcement, to test remains and enter them into a national database.

"We're not unfortunately going to be able to bring her daughter back, but we hope some day we might be able to identify her, but also help other people who might be in this situation," said Chabot.

"He's working for the victims, and that's really huge for those of us that are victims," said Culberson, "so I support him in every way I can."

Culberson is expected to be there with the president when he signs the DNA initiative into law.

http://www.wcpo.com/news/2004/local/10/21/culberson.html

[jolayne1963]

God bless you, Debbie. Words can't express what "selfless" of an act you are doing in the midst of your own sorrow.
I do pray the Lord will convict the heart of the one responsible, and that one day soon, he will tell where Carrie is.
For You and Carrie:rose:

[findcarrie]

Jolayne,

This isnt Debbie posting. It's Jill

Debbie is a great lady. We look forward to when this law finally comes into effect.
:patriot:

[jolayne1963]

Originally posted by findcarrie
Jolayne,

This isnt Debbie posting. It's Jill

Debbie is a great lady. We look forward to when this law finally comes into effect.
:patriot:

Oh, I am so sorry Jill. "Duh, BIG RED TRUCK!" Besides being a "dumb blonde", (no pun intended to other blondes), I guess 4 hours a sleep each night is taking a "toll" on my "old" brain.

Okay, I'll try this one more time. God bless Debbie for all she is doing in the "midst" of her own sorrows. AND, God bless you, Jill, for keeping us all "updated" on Carrie's case.

As always, "praying and believing" she will soon be home. In Christ, Jo Layne

In Memory of William Ray "Bud" Peters
"I once was lost,
But now am found.
Was blind,
But now I see"

[oldshirley]

Findcarrie, I got your email and responded. I am taking the sample letter to work. I will write one, but I told you in my email my co-worker is majoring in criminal justice so I'm going to see if she can present this as a class project in her criminal justice class (she's pretty vocal so I think she'll do it). I got to thinking, maybe some other colleges that offer criminal justice classes would be interested in doing this as a project--it's worth a shot.
Anyway, I'm on it tomorrow. BTW, Erin is my co-worker and at the very least, she and I will write letter. She's all for this kind of thing going into effect.
Good luck.

[findcarrie]

Jolayne and OldShirley,

The reason I told you it was me and not Debbie is that I couldnt ever take credit for what Debbie has done to help find Carrie. I just posted that for her. As far as a dumb blonde... hehehe I'm a blonde too. :tongue: So Dont worry

The email I sent out to a few folks that had a sample letter to go to your congressman. This letter is entirely different from the law that Carrie's mom is trying to pass. This one is for Milton Nerenberg to get our congress to pass the law to help assist mentally impaired adults who become missing. A few of us came to the conclusion that if we had a simple letter that they could just print off, but plug in their information, then it's more likely that they will send the letter in. To me this is extremly important because if you have ever had a mentally impaired person in your family, you can relate to how much more troubling the situation is should they disappear.

I hope that everybody will help with this bill for Audrey and for others who are mentally impaired. Someone has to help these people who are unable to help themselves. Thank you to all who answered my email. :)

[findcarrie]

In the two years since I began the website for Carrie Culberson, I have come to meet several other families who have missing loved ones. Some of the cases are eerily similar but obviously different. I wanted to share this with all of our viewers.
You have the well known case of Carrie Culberson who vanished on August 28, 1996 and both Carrie and her 1989 Red Honda CRX have never been seen again. We are so familiar with her case, but did you know about these?

In 1988, several years before Carrie disappeared, there was the case of Lisa Marie Kimmell who disappeared along with her 1988 Black Honda CRX with license plates (LILMISS) on the way to her boyfriend’s house. Kimmell’s body was found eight days later in a river. She had been raped and stabbed to death by an unknown assailant. Her car would remain missing until 14 years later. DNA testing from an anonymous letter left on Kimmell’s gravestone would later determine that an already incarcerated man was responsible for her murder. After speaking to neighbors, police would learn that the man had previously dug a hole in his front yard, and that hole would later be found to contain none other than Lisa Marie Kimmell’s missing 89 Honda CRX. Lisa’s killer was sentenced to death for her disappearance and murder.
Lisa’s parents are big advocates of Parent’s of Murdered Children, an organization that Carrie Culberson’s mother is active in as well. Kimmell was from Montana, and Culberson was from Ohio.

In 1997, Alana “Laney” Gwinner of Fairfield, Ohio vanished after going out with friends to a bowling alley. A month and one day after she disappeared, her lifeless body was found in the Ohio river. Gwinner owned a 93 Black Honda Del Sol. The family of Carrie Culberson would come to offer their support to the family of Laney Gwinner. Gwinner’s murder remains unsolved, however the 93 black Honda is STILL missing, as in the Culberson case.

In June of 2004, Tamika Huston of Spartanburg, South Carolina would disappear without a trace. For a few days her black Honda CRX was missing, but, it turned up in an apartment complex. There are still no answers in her disappearance. Her family is left to wonder what may have happened.

While you read this article, you probably say, Oh… all these people simply owned a Honda vehicle. Well, that would be a true statement completely. However, these ladies have all had different scenarios and some have been found and some have not. While they are all different, the one fact remains, there is a family that has been turned upside down. This unrelated similarity is something that I wanted to share with those who have followed the Culberson case closely. All of these unfortunate stories have somehow given hope that more answers can be found for Carrie. Because as horrific as they may be, we still need to know.

[findcarrie]

Chabot’s Crime Victims’ Rights Bill Passes
House and Senate

Chabot Works with Culberson Family to Add DNA Provision

Washington, D.C. – The House and Senate have passed identical versions of the Justice for All Act, bipartisan legislation that combines the Crime Victims’ Rights Act, authored by Congressman Steve Chabot (R-OH), and two DNA testing bills. The Justice for All Act was introduced by Judiciary Committee Chairman James Sensenbrenner (R-WI), Congressman Chabot, and Congressman John Conyers (D-MI) on September 21, 2004. The legislation will now be sent to the President who is expected to sign the bill into law.

"This legislation will extend important new rights to the victims of crime and their families," said Chabot. "While criminals are given numerous rights and protections in the Constitution, victims are afforded few rights under federal law. This legislation will ensure victims are protected and not just an afterthought."

Chabot also successfully added a provision to the DNA portion of the legislation that requires states and local communities that receive federal funding for DNA testing to report test results for unidentified remains to a nationwide database. Chabot has been working to advance this issue with Debra Culberson, whose daughter Carrie Culberson was murdered in 1996. Although her former boyfriend was convicted of the murder, Carrie’s remains have not been recovered.

"We really appreciate the work Congressman Chabot has put into this issue," Debra Culberson said. "We’ve been searching for my daughter Carrie’s remains for the past eight years and are hopeful that this may serve as an important vehicle for us, and anyone missing a loved one, to identify remains. This is a critical first step toward ensuring testing from across the nation is housed in one central location and we look forward to continuing this effort with Congressman Chabot."

Chabot introduced the Crime Victims’ Rights Act in May 2004. By including Chabot’s legislation in the bipartisan Justice for All Act, the bill would codify the following rights for victims of federal crimes: the right to be reasonably protected from the accused; timely notice of any public court proceeding regarding the crime, release, or escape of the accused; the right to be included and publicly heard at any public court proceeding involving release, plea or sentencing; right to timely restitution as provided by law; and the right to be treated with fairness and with respect for the victim’s dignity and privacy.

Currently, 33 states have adopted a constitutional amendment to provide rights to victims of crime and all 50 states have enacted victims’ rights legislation. Chabot first introduced a Victims’ Rights Constitutional Amendment in 1999.

http://www.house.gov/chabot/vrpass04.html

[findcarrie]

COLUMBUS, Ohio -- A murder victim's mother gave emotional testimony Wednesday to Ohio lawmakers in an effort to require DNA testing on all unknown human remains, NBC 4's David Wayne reported.

With a portrait of her murdered daughter, Carrie, in front of the podium, Debra Culberson urged state senators to pass the new law. Her daughter's remains have never been found since her disappearance in 1996, and she worries that they may be on a law enforcement agency's shelf labeled as "unknown," Wayne reported.

"If you look at the missing children's Web site and you see all of the unidentified remains, it is heart-sickening," Culberson said. "With the technology available today, there's no reason to have unidentified remains."

The bill's sponsor said the new law would help match unknown remains.

"Ohio's database is able to track unidentified remains against samples submitted by family members," said Rep. Bob Latta, R-Bowling Green.

Supporters say it is vital for victims' families.

"Well, I would like to hope that her remains will be found," Culberson said. "But being a mother, I'm always going to hope."

More Information:

FindCarrieCulberson.com

http://www.nbc4i.com/news/3963046/detail.html

[oldshirley]

Findcarrie, I read your post about the Honda CRX and the other missing persons owning Hondas. I noticed that before when I was looking at some missing person cases. I found it odd that several missing persons drove that particular car. Coincidence? Maybe, but I still find it a bit of an odd coincidence. Makes you wonder if there's some weird, sick person out there targeting women in this particular make of car.
But I also know what I've read in Carrie's case and I also believe that in most cases it's someone who knows their victim that commits the crime against them.
Great post though. It makes you stop and think about it.

[findcarrie]

Originally posted by oldshirley
Findcarrie, I read your post about the Honda CRX and the other missing persons owning Hondas. I noticed that before when I was looking at some missing person cases. I found it odd that several missing persons drove that particular car. Coincidence? Maybe, but I still find it a bit of an odd coincidence. Makes you wonder if there's some weird, sick person out there targeting women in this particular make of car.
But I also know what I've read in Carrie's case and I also believe that in most cases it's someone who knows their victim that commits the crime against them.
Great post though. It makes you stop and think about it.

Shirley,

I posted that so that people could realize that there are so many people - not just Carrie, who have disappeared.They were not related to Carrie in any way whatsoever, but somebody misses them just the same. I just recognize similarities in disappearances/murders and wanted to talk about them.

Another example similar to what I wrote- Stacey Balas who vanished after her shift at a Subway, and then Joanna Rogers who vanished after her shift at Subway... those are examples as well. These are unrelated as well. Stacey vanished from Fairview Park Ohio in 1996, and Joanna in Lubbock Texas, just this year.

These examples that are similar because TOO MANY people are disappearing.

Thinking about all those people who are missing with the holidays approaching. Hoping that answers can be found.


:rose: :rose: :rose:

[oldshirley]

In 1988, several years before Carrie disappeared, there was the case of Lisa Marie Kimmell who disappeared along with her 1988 Black Honda CRX with license plates (LILMISS) on the way to her boyfriend’s house. Kimmell’s body was found eight days later in a river. She had been raped and stabbed to death by an unknown assailant. Her car would remain missing until 14 years later. DNA testing from an anonymous letter left on Kimmell’s gravestone would later determine that an already incarcerated man was responsible for her murder. After speaking to neighbors, police would learn that the man had previously dug a hole in his front yard, and that hole would later be found to contain none other than Lisa Marie Kimmell’s missing 89 Honda CRX. Lisa’s killer was sentenced to death for her disappearance and murder.

This case is being aired on A&E's Cold Case Files right now.

[findcarrie]

Originally posted by oldshirley
In 1988, several years before Carrie disappeared, there was the case of Lisa Marie Kimmell who disappeared along with her 1988 Black Honda CRX with license plates (LILMISS) on the way to her boyfriend’s house. Kimmell’s body was found eight days later in a river. She had been raped and stabbed to death by an unknown assailant. Her car would remain missing until 14 years later. DNA testing from an anonymous letter left on Kimmell’s gravestone would later determine that an already incarcerated man was responsible for her murder. After speaking to neighbors, police would learn that the man had previously dug a hole in his front yard, and that hole would later be found to contain none other than Lisa Marie Kimmell’s missing 89 Honda CRX. Lisa’s killer was sentenced to death for her disappearance and murder.

This case is being aired on A&E's Cold Case Files right now.

Shirley,

I know. They pushed it up from the scheduled 8 p.m. to 9 Eastern Standard time. We sat and watched it again. AETV will reair it later tonight if you missed it.

Glad they convicted Eaton after all this time.

:rose: For Lisa Marie Kimmell & all other missing & murdered people

[findcarrie]

Court TV's the System will be airing the segment on the disappearance of Carrie Culberson on Thursday, Dec. 9, 2004 at 8 p.m. Eastern Standard time.

http://www.courttv.com/onair/shows/the_investigators/g_p_episodes/missing.html


American Justice (AETV) completed the week of Thanksgiving interviews and filming for the upcoming show about the disappearance of Carrie. We are told that this will probably air in three to four months. We are all very excited about this new show.

[jolayne1963]

Wonderful news. Will you please also send us a reminder the day before or the day of the airing? I have "posty notes" all over my kitchen cabinet, but sometimes they get shuffled around and misplaced. I don't want to miss the show! Prayerfully, someone watching will know something. I'll definitely be praying for that anyway. In Christ, Jo Layne

In Memory of William Ray "Bud" Peters
www.unclaimedpersons.com

[oldshirley]

I have "posty notes" all over my kitchen cabinet, but sometimes they get shuffled around and misplaced.

OMG, we must be twins--and btw, that drives my boss insane, my post-its all over my desk & computer--and his wife does it too :lol:

And Findcarrie, that'd be great if you could remind us if you get the chance. I'm at that very very forgetful age.

[findcarrie]

Originally posted by oldshirley
I have "posty notes" all over my kitchen cabinet, but sometimes they get shuffled around and misplaced.

OMG, we must be twins--and btw, that drives my boss insane, my post-its all over my desk & computer--and his wife does it too :lol:

And Findcarrie, that'd be great if you could remind us if you get the chance. I'm at that very very forgetful age.

I will come back and post this Thursday. This show airs about every six weeks and we are so grateful to Court TV for doing that. I will post as soon as I know about American Justice too.:tongue:

[findcarrie]

Some people asked me to come back and remind them that tonight @ 8 p.m. Eastern Standard Time, Court TV will air MISSING. This is the segment filmed in 2001 about the disappearance of Carrie.

We still do not have an air date yet for the American Justice segment, but I will post as soon as I know :)

For Carrie :rose:

[jolayne1963]

Thanks soooooo much. I just wrote a "posty note" and sat it on my kitchen cabinet (along with tons of other's) so I won't forget to watch it tonight.
I will be praying that "someone, somewhere" that watches it also, will "know something" and come forward with some answers of Carrie's whereabouts. In Christ, Jo Layne
"We love you, Carrie, and we're trying to get you home!"

In Memory of William Ray "Bud" Peters
www.unclaimedpersons.com

"Lift Your Eyes Of Faith And See The ONE Who Came To Set Us Free.......

[oldshirley]

Okay, gonna make myself a note on this.
Thanks FC, you do a fine job keeping us updated.
:rose:

[oldshirley]

I'm watching it--I'm going to puke.
Watching certain testimony :flamemad: me.

[jolayne1963]

I'm watching it now. This is just "heartwrenching". My God, the photos showing the "bruises" should definitely tell the story. And the "conversation" that blonde woman had with Carrie... so much emotion. It's obvious Carrie was terrified and controled by this man. I am praying this will bring the answers her friends and family are seeking. God is listening, and if He is willing, and "it is time", it will come to pass. In Christ, Jo Layne

[oldshirley]

I like the two jurors. They seem to have a very wise understanding of how things were and are.

[findcarrie]

Ditto that. I wont say a lot here because you all know the history of that topic. It's been wild today with that show airing. It causes some issues so to speak each time it rolls around.

Thanks for watching. It will reair at 12 midnight for those who missed it at 8.

[oldshirley]

:rose: For Carrie
:rose: For Carrie's Mom
:rose: For Carrie's friends and family

[starling]

Originally posted by findcarrie
Court TV's the System will be airing the segment on the disappearance of Carrie Culberson on Thursday, Dec. 9, 2004 at 8 p.m. Eastern Standard time.

http://www.courttv.com/onair/shows/the_investigators/g_p_episodes/missing.html


American Justice (AETV) completed the week of Thanksgiving interviews and filming for the upcoming show about the disappearance of Carrie. We are told that this will probably air in three to four months. We are all very excited about this new show.


bump~
on now

It came on at midnight here, so I stayed up to watch.
Terribly sad. The killer and his family just strike me as sub-human. If they would only stop lying and let Carrie's loved ones know where her remains are.
The whole family reminded me of the Petersons in just a different socio-economic place. They got up on the stand and perjured themselves in a pathetic attempt to protect a murderer. Even worse than that though, was the cruel audacity they displayed in trying to depict Carrie as the victimizer instead of the victim. What an insult that they think we will believe that she was a drug addicted liar, and vincent was a poor innocent trying to help her stay out of trouble.
It upset me so much that I stayed awake the rest of the evening.
Bless you Carrie. Justice will be served.

[findcarrie]

Originally posted by JuliaB
It came on at midnight here, so I stayed up to watch.
Terribly sad. The killer and his family just strike me as sub-human. If they would only stop lying and let Carrie's loved ones know where her remains are.
The whole family reminded me of the Petersons in just a different socio-economic place. They got up on the stand and perjured themselves in a pathetic attempt to protect a murderer. Even worse than that though, was the cruel audacity they displayed in trying to depict Carrie as the victimizer instead of the victim. What an insult that they think we will believe that she was a drug addicted liar, and vincent was a poor innocent trying to help her stay out of trouble.
It upset me so much that I stayed awake the rest of the evening.
Bless you Carrie. Justice will be served.

Julia,

I'm sorry you stayed awake all night long after watching that. Each time CTV airs that episode, Carrie's family and supporters go through pure torment from the other side. It's embarassing but it happens. We've all learned to have very thick skin and the comments and actions are just expected. Carriewas not a drug user. I think I dont need to explain to anybody what the true score was. I can only say that if you had concerns about the one hour show that came on, that you should have seen the whole trial that was on CTV. You probably would've turned that off each time with sore teeth from gritting the so hard when the defense witnesses were on the stand. We all believe that good will overcome evil and we will finally locate Carrie's remains. :patriot:

[oldshirley]

Carriewas not a drug user
Findcarrie, it's really easy to say things about someone who's not around to defend themselves. I think the jury saw that in this case. I don't want to say too much on this board because I don't want to "stir the pot" so to speak here, but I was espcially sickened when a certain defendant's father or stepfather, whatever he is, said Carrie should just get dressed and come home. Why say anything? Why not just say "we hope and pray she's alive so this can all be cleared up." IMO, that was a very incriminating thing on his part to say.

[jolayne1963]

Find Carrie said"
"We all believe that good will overcome evil and we will finally locate Carrie's remains."

Hold strong to that "belief". Our God is an "awesome God", and as long as you hold strong to that "fact", the good LORD will see you all through this, and in "His perfect" and "due time", He will "set you free". Don't forget, I'm "living proof" of His "amazing grace". My Grandpa! "What's true for me, is true for YOU"
In Christ, Jo Layne

In Memory of William Ray "Bud" Peters
www.unclaimedpersons.c

Lift Your Eyes Of Faith And See The ONE Who Came To Set Us Free.........

[oldshirley]

Bumping for Carrie :rose:

Here is the most disguisting Web site I have ever seen for Vincent Doan - the man who physically abused Carrie Culberson time and time again before she disappeared. Whoever designed this Web site is making him out to be a SAINT! And if I hear from his family one more time that she should just "come home" I don't know what I will do!! I think that's the standard line for killers to use over and over.

http://www.justice4vinceandtracey.com/

[jolayne1963]

I briefly skimmed over the website for Vincent, and I have just one question, as I have yet to read or learn ALL of the details of Carrie's disappearance and the search for her. It is not my intention to get into a debate over psychics, and I refuse to do so. All I want to know is, how much did Sylvia Browne CHARGE$ for this psychic reading? A simple "amount" will do, if anyone has this information. Thanks. In Christ, Jo Layne

In Memory of William Ray "Bud" Peters
www.unclaimedpersons.com

[findcarrie]

Originally posted by jolayne1963
I briefly skimmed over the website for Vincent, and I have just one question, as I have yet to read or learn ALL of the details of Carrie's disappearance and the search for her. It is not my intention to get into a debate over psychics, and I refuse to do so. All I want to know is, how much did Sylvia Browne CHARGE$ for this psychic reading? A simple "amount" will do, if anyone has this information. Thanks. In Christ, Jo Layne

In Memory of William Ray "Bud" Peters
www.unclaimedpersons.com

I'm sorry that you had the experience of reading what is basically a trash site against the victim and those of us who work to find Carrie. It's basically an embarassment and I make no bones about it.

In regards to Ms. Brown. Debbie Culberson visited the Montel show when she was on. She told her a bunch of stuff that was so generic it was basically inconclusive. She charged them $500 to tell them this information. She's charged other families even more. One in particular Ms. Brown told them she was busy but they could see her son for half of of 2 grand. She's raised her prices since 1997. She has never helped located one single missing person that I am aware of.

It is my feeling that IF a psychic was real, she would not charge for her services and and generic statements would not be given to a family who is desperate to find their missing loved one.

I am sorry if I have offended anybody about my feelings on psychics but after a while, you get sick of hearing some of the stuff they say. We have all come to one conclusion and that is this has to be put in God's hands and when he is ready to reveal her whereabouts, he will. We will never have answers until he sees fit. Sometimes it's hard to stick to that but in the end, it's the only REAL proven way to find answers.

This is another attempt from the other side to make others think we have closed our mind and hearts to any search efforts for Carrie because Vince is in jail (where he belongs). This is a psychological tool she uses and to those who dont know what is going on, it raises questions.

[oldshirley]

I'm with you Findcarrie, I believe if someone really was psychic and had the ability to tell where a missing loved one is, they'd do it and not charge. It's the human thing to do.
For Carrie :rose:

I hope this isn't a repeat of what has already been asked, but who was the witness who said that Vincent and Tracey had blood on them when they came into the house and was the witness reliable? I know he is guilty of Carrie's murder, I was just curious.

[findcarrie]

Originally posted by msmeowington
I hope this isn't a repeat of what has already been asked, but who was the witness who said that Vincent and Tracey had blood on them when they came into the house and was the witness reliable? I know he is guilty of Carrie's murder, I was just curious.

That person was Lori Baker and my question to you is do you think she's credible? Obviously there was something to her testimony about Vincent Doan and Tracey Baker leaving with garbage bags and a gun around 3 a.m. on August 29, 1996.

May 5, 2004 garbage bags and Carrie's shirt were found buried 15 feet below the concrete floor. Kinda hard to refute that testimony in light of those findings if you ask me. ONe of the items was garbage bags as she described some 7 1/2 years earlier when she testified.

I invite everybody on this board to read the quick facts posted on Carrie's site and then once you are finished reading it, go over to Vince's site and read her answers. You'll find it amusing.

http://www.findcarrieculberson.com/quickfacts.html

Reponces
http://www.geocities.com/freevincentdoan/Quickfacts.html

Also we have to isolate our chats about Carrie and this case due to some harassment that happened on previous message boards. We have one particular area that we can discuss more in depth. Consider reading some of the information and maybe joining (Unless you are a family member of Vincent Doan).

[findcarrie]

One last comment. I want to make very clear that I do not rule out any possilities of those who are spiritual advisors. Ms. Culberson has never slammed a door in anybody's face and all information that seems credible is followed up on. There are many actions still be taken to look for Carrie but those items cannot be discussed due to the fact we will not jeopardize the investigation.

Just because Vince is in jail and we know that he is where he should be, one piece of this puzzle is STILL missing. Until Carrie is located, this will never be over. It will only close a chapter that has been needed to be closed for a very long time. What has happened can never be reversed.

I respect all people who have the abilities to help others. I just have not seen anything that makes me believe in Browne as being credible when it comes to helping find missing people.

[missthegirls]

Sending thoughts and prayers to Carrie's family and friends.

Blessings and Peace to you all.

[findcarrie]

Originally posted by missthegirls
Sending thoughts and prayers to Carrie's family and friends.

Blessings and Peace to you all.

Kathy,

We are always thinking about you, Jennifer and Nina too. :rose: :rose: :rose:

Originally posted by findcarrie


That person was Lori Baker and my question to you is do you think she's credible? Obviously there was something to her testimony about Vincent Doan and Tracey Baker leaving with garbage bags and a gun around 3 a.m. on August 29, 1996.

May 5, 2004 garbage bags and Carrie's shirt were found buried 15 feet below the concrete floor. Kinda hard to refute that testimony in light of those findings if you ask me. ONe of the items was garbage bags as she described some 7 1/2 years earlier when she testified.

I invite everybody on this board to read the quick facts posted on Carrie's site and then once you are finished reading it, go over to Vince's site and read her answers. You'll find it amusing.

http://www.findcarrieculberson.com/quickfacts.html

Reponces
http://www.geocities.com/freevincentdoan/Quickfacts.html

Also we have to isolate our chats about Carrie and this case due to some harassment that happened on previous message boards. We have one particular area that we can discuss more in depth. Consider reading some of the information and maybe joining (Unless you are a family member of Vincent Doan).

I believe she is credible and I believe everything she said. It seems like they just downplayed her testimony at the trial and made her out to be a liar. I guess this same question is going through everyone's mind - why doesn't he just tell the authorities where her body is? What does he have to lose? I still can't believe they let that pond go unguarded. It is also amazing that they found the bags and Carrie's shirt 15 feet under cement. I wonder how they dug that far under without being observed? And if her shirt is there, then where is she? I can't imagine someone digging that far just to bury a shirt. It is just unbelievable that he will be sitting there in jail for the rest of his life and he won't give them any information that would give Carrie's family some closure. It's like he wants to have the final control on that too! I guess I need to go to your site and get more information ....didn't mean to ask you 20 questions! I will register on that site - and NO, thank God I am NOT a family member or friend of Vincent Doan!

[findcarrie]

Originally posted by msmeowington


I believe she is credible and I believe everything she said. It seems like they just downplayed her testimony at the trial and made her out to be a liar. I guess this same question is going through everyone's mind - why doesn't he just tell the authorities where her body is? What does he have to lose? I still can't believe they let that pond go unguarded. It is also amazing that they found the bags and Carrie's shirt 15 feet under cement. I wonder how they dug that far under without being observed? And if her shirt is there, then where is she? I can't imagine someone digging that far just to bury a shirt. It is just unbelievable that he will be sitting there in jail for the rest of his life and he won't give them any information that would give Carrie's family some closure. It's like he wants to have the final control on that too! I guess I need to go to your site and get more information ....didn't mean to ask you 20 questions! I will register on that site - and NO, thank God I am NOT a family member or friend of Vincent Doan!

I do not mind people asking questions at all . You have to learn all the information somehow. That is why we put Carrie's name on this list.

I will answer you about Doan, but probably as soon as I do, the group of vultures will join the conversation.

Doan is not answering questions about Carrie because he has one appeal left. If he were to say he killed her, then the possility of the sentence being overturned would not happen. Vincent Doan is a sociopath and he believe in his mind that no crime was committed that night.

That pond was not guarded because the police chief was friends with the family. He was later charged in connection with the crime. He pled no contest and was fired from his job. This man allowed the family of Vincent Doan to remove the "retrieable" remains of Carrie. This is what prompted the civil suit against the town, in which the Culberson's won.

There are a lot of weird things that have happened with Carrie case. Example... finding these materials that far beneath the barn but not her. There was also a red 89 CRX found in the Ohio river one month after Carrie disappeared, but it wasnt hers. These are only a few examples. I believe along with the family that many decoys have been set to throw this back in the victims family's face.

The brother of Vincent Doan, Tracey Baker is due for release from jail this Sept. 2005. Perhaps once Tracey is allowed to get on with his life and Vince continues to stay in jail, he will begin to realize the right thing to do. I cant say for sure, because I dont know.

Also, you said they tried to discredit Lori Baker, and here is why. Lori had been having an affair with Vincent Doan. Several people tried to discredit her because of her morality issues. Laying those aside, she had nothing to lose by telling them what she observed that night.
Come see us sometime. We'd love to have you come ask questions and chat.:)

[jolayne1963]

Originally posted by findcarrie


I'm sorry that you had the experience of reading what is basically a trash site against the victim and those of us who work to find Carrie. It's basically an embarassment and I make no bones about it.

In regards to Ms. Brown. Debbie Culberson visited the Montel show when she was on. She told her a bunch of stuff that was so generic it was basically inconclusive. She charged them $500 to tell them this information. She's charged other families even more. One in particular Ms. Brown told them she was busy but they could see her son for half of of 2 grand. She's raised her prices since 1997. She has never helped located one single missing person that I am aware of.

It is my feeling that IF a psychic was real, she would not charge for her services and and generic statements would not be given to a family who is desperate to find their missing loved one.

I am sorry if I have offended anybody about my feelings on psychics but after a while, you get sick of hearing some of the stuff they say. We have all come to one conclusion and that is this has to be put in God's hands and when he is ready to reveal her whereabouts, he will. We will never have answers until he sees fit. Sometimes it's hard to stick to that but in the end, it's the only REAL proven way to find answers.

This is another attempt from the other side to make others think we have closed our mind and hearts to any search efforts for Carrie because Vince is in jail (where he belongs). This is a psychological tool she uses and to those who dont know what is going on, it raises questions.

Thank you, FindCarrie. And yes, I was sickened to have to even click on that site to see what these people are up to. And $500 to bring answers to a grieving family? Go figure! If I we're a psychic I'd be bringing people home left and right and not charging a single dime. Big hug to you. Keep your faith. Good will overcome Evil in the end. In Christ, Jo Layne

Lift Your Eyes Of Faith And See The ONE Who Came To Set Us Free.......

It sounds like someone is working "behind the scenes" to plant evidence everywhere to lead the authorities in the wrong direction. His family or friends could have buried her clothing there to mislead everyone. But that is too weird about the Honda being found in the river! I thought all along, like you said, that the police officer had to have known the family. There is just no other excuse for that. It's cases like this that are the most frustrating because nothing seems to make sense! Do they think Carrie may be in the Ohio River?

[findcarrie]

Originally posted by msmeowington
It sounds like someone is working "behind the scenes" to plant evidence everywhere to lead the authorities in the wrong direction. His family or friends could have buried her clothing there to mislead everyone. But that is too weird about the Honda being found in the river! I thought all along, like you said, that the police officer had to have known the family. There is just no other excuse for that. It's cases like this that are the most frustrating because nothing seems to make sense! Do they think Carrie may be in the Ohio River?

Tracey Baker's exgirlfriend who testified against him at his trial (Robin Eden), stated that Tracey had joked about helping Vince dismember Carrie and that one of her grave(s) was the Ohio River. She would go onto say that he told they never found the first grave. Please note that Tracey Baker was legally divorced but living with Lori Baker on and off again when Carrie vanished.

The area was looked at one time for her remains, but nothing was recovered. A problem with that search was there was a large flood prior to the search and anything that could've been found, might have been dislodged and it moved someplace else.

Carrie could be anywhere. And like JoLayne said... good will overcome evil in the end and we will find her.

[PCB50]

:rose: For You and Everyone who will NEVER give up the search for Carrie! Yes, Good will and always rides over evil! Just as We will NEVER give up searching for Karen Jo!

So many are uplifted with Hope in their quest for Justice in their Missing Loved ones cases, we are In Hope of finding our Missing home. I will never give up that hope. It is coming for many more to get the Justice First.

We deserve the right to bury our Missing/Presumed Murdered. They All deserve the right to come home.

IN Hope

[starling]

:rose:

[findcarrie]

I am sorry to have to post this information, but it is something we must do to protect those who do care about Carrie and her case.

If you all find a website that is selling material pertaining to Carrie Culberson or her case (aside from the Court TV tapes for sale @ CTV), please be advised that those materials are not from the Culberson family and no money from those sales go to the Culbersons.

If you should find any pornographic material that is posted that contains my picture, Ms Culberson's picture or Carrie, please contact us immediately as well.

Please do NOT purchase these materials. The only approved website is www.findcarrieculberson.com. If you have purchased something or know someone who has, please be advised that we cannot be held liable for any fradulant sales upon the net.

Carrie does not have any materials for sale.

If you should receive an email that has my email address and it contains inappropriate material, you are urged to report it to us immediately because someone has been using a fake mailer. At no time will we ever take or ask for money regarding Carrie.

We are working to correct this problem.

[jolayne1963]

I am so sorry! This is just sick. How can anyone prey upon someone's grief and sorrow like that? This is just "beyond" me! In Christ, Jo Layne

In Memory of William Ray "Bud" Peters
www.unclaimedpersons.com

Lift Your Eyes Of Faith And See The ONE Who Came To Set Us Free......

[findcarrie]

Bumping for Carrie on what would be her 31st birthday today.
Thinking of her always
:rose: :rose: :rose:

[PCB50]

For Carrie:rose:

To have lived to see her 31st!
What a beautiful young lady she was and to all whose life has been touched by Carrie:rose:

IN Hope

[oldshirley]

:rose:

[Justins Mom]

:rose:

[starling]

:rose:

[kcharjay01]

:rose: :rose: For Carrie

[findcarrie]

Parents of Murdered Children now have Carrie listed on their murder wall.
FOr those of you who are just starting to read this thread at this point, Carrie is a murder victim whose body is still missing.

http://www.pomc.com/carrieculberson.cfm

Thanks to Parents of Murdered Children for their kindness and consideration.

[RebelAngel]

:rose: :rose: :rose:

[findcarrie]

I was not going to post this at first because I am not into tooting my own horn. This article talks about the one person who has prompted me and my family to help others who are missing so, I am posting this for that reason. As I told Mr. Lavenedar the day we did this, all of this is not about me, it's about these missing people.

Sleuth casts a wide Net for the missing
Hall woman works to keep memories alive for lost, slain
By RICK LAVENDER
The Times

The screensaver on Jill Bennett's computer doesn't show a gurgling aquarium scene or pipelines running amok. Instead, it's a collage of faces of missing and slain people.

Scores of women, men and children, each photograph collected by the 30-year-old West Hall woman and merged into a patchwork of people. Bennett can tell you the story behind every picture.

Bennett's passion, powered by the Internet, is keeping their memories alive and giving hope, however thin, to those families who still don't have an answer, and may never.

Early in the morning, late at night and deep into the weekend, Bennett spends hours maintaining an online message board that lists hundreds of people who have vanished.

She creates free Web sites for the missing and murdered, helps organize vigils, sends sympathy cards and even has washed cars to raise reward money.

She and her mother drove to more than 20 Hall County convenience stores on Monday passing out flyers about Ronald Andrew Goodridge, a Gainesville man missing since Jan. 14.


In Rob Endres' view, the care comes from a "heart of gold." His wife, Patrice Tamber Endres, disappeared from her Forsyth County hair salon on April 15. She hasn't been heard from since.

Bennett created a Web page profiling Patrice and offering updates and media reports at www.findpatriceendres.com.

She also helped expand the search via Internet links.

"I've talked to people who come into Georgia from Massachusetts and they know about Patrice through this," said Endres.

Bennett has been interested in mysteries and the missing since she was a child. She watched and taped every "Unsolved Mysteries" program. She can remember her mother taking her to a murder trial but court officials turned them away because Bennett was only 12.

"She should have gone into law enforcement," Judy Bennett said of her daughter.

Instead, Jill Bennett steered her interest into action three years ago, after watching a Court TV segment on a missing woman in Blanchester, Ohio.

Carrie Culberson disappeared in 1996. A year later, a jury found her former boyfriend guilty of murder. Culberson's body still hasn't been found.

Bennett went online that night and found little information on Culberson. "Bored" and wanting to help, she put together a Web site and e-mailed Culberson's mother to express sympathy and tell her about the page. She and Debbie Culberson later became friends. Encouraged, Bennett did more.

She started the message board findcarrie.conforums.com and built a Web site for Heather Teague, a Kentucky woman abducted from a river beach in 1995 and never seen again.

Then came the Endres case. Bennett and her mother helped Rob Endres wash cars in the rain as a reward fund-raiser.

In November, Bennett created Angel Garden of Hope, a site that explains the home-based effort Bennett's parents, Judy and Bradley, also support.

The Garden of Hope is a computer desk in the living room of the family's modest home just off Dawsonville Highway. The setup includes a large screen, scanner, digital camera, printer, high-speed cable connection and how-to software books. Two ceramic angels overlook the screen and keyboard.

Bennett, single and a self-taught Web site maker, gets up 30 minutes early on weekdays to begin updating the message board, using the Google search engine to scan for new stories on the names listed.

She also keeps names and dates in a planner: when somebody was reported missing; when they would have celebrated their birthday. She tops the message board with the photos of two or three each day.

On the larger list, the missing are marked with a yellow rose. Those who are dead get a red one.

'It's important to me'

She returns to the computer in the evening, monitoring the message board, catching the A&E network's "Cold Case Files" at 7 p.m. on the TV set next to her desk and then keeping an eye on Court TV until bed.

She keeps her cell phone close. There is a network of people who track these cases, a fascination mirrored in cable series and coverage of trials like the conviction of Californian Scott Peterson for murdering his wife, Laci, and their unborn son. Bennett also talks with family members of the missing and murdered.

"If I'm not on the computer," she said, "I'm talking to somebody's mama."

She plans to attend a missing person conference in North Carolina and then a march supporting the search for a girl in California.

This isn't her only interest. She likes Van Halen and other rock bands. She's also an admitted "shopaholic." Still, Bennett said in a Southern drawl that most people will consider her "cuckoo," considering her main hobby.

More, though, will simply want to know why she does this.

She wants to help, Bennett answered. She's intrigued and saddened by the situations. She might like a career in law enforcement, but only if they assigned her to the "cold" cases. "This," she said, "is what is important to me."

There are occasional contacts with detectives. But Bennett has never seen one of her favored cases solved. At least not yet.

"I'd like to see each of them solved," she said.

Some have, in a sense. Carrie Culberson's murderer is in prison. He hasn't said, however, where her remains are. "The media moves away from (such cases)," Bennett said. "But the family never forgets."

Families give thanks

It took 11 years to push the search for Villa Inez "Chubby" Dowdy toward an end.

Her husband, David Dowdy of Dahlonega, confessed earlier this month to killing her and led authorities to national forestland in Lumpkin County, according to family members. Investigators dug up what is believed to be the woman's remains.

When Bennett called the funeral home handling the arrangements to express condolences and see if she could help, owners directed her to Dowdy's family. She later made a Web site for Chubby Dowdy.

"It's given us as a family of the victim a way to go in and write messages (about) her," said Dowdy's niece, Tammy Abernathy of Gainesville, Texas.

"I just wish we had known about (Jill Bennett) 11 years ago," Abernathy said.

Tiffanie Goodridge is searching now. Her husband, Ronald, hasn't come back after leaving home Jan. 14 for a nearby convenience store on Candler Road (Ga. 60). Authorities have scoured the land and water near Clarks Bridge on Lake Lanier, where Ronald Goodridge's car was found.

Tiffanie Goodridge called Bennett a Godsend. "I think we need more people like Jill," she said.

As of Friday night, www.geocities.com/FindRonald had registered 209 hits.

Bennett wants to buy a computer server so she can offer bigger, more complex Web sites for free. She also is registering Angel Garden of Hope as a nonprofit.

She has softly reined in some of her outreach. "If they're not local anymore, I don't search them out," she said. "But a lot of times, they'll come to me."

It's a commitment this self-described advocate for missing and murdered people doesn't tire of. "We're just doing all we know how to do," Bennett said.

http://www.gainesvilletimes.com/news/stories/20050227/localnews/80338.shtml

[findcarrie]

The mother of a Blanchester woman murdered by her former boyfriend is working to keep the same thing from happening to other women.

Debbie Culberson helped train volunteers at a new domestic violence support center in Fayette County.

Before this program got underway, victims of domestic violence in that county had no where to go to get help.

That's why Culberson is pitching in, to get the program up and running -- and because eight years ago her daughter needed help, too, and never got it.

"My daughter Carrie was murdered in August of 1996 by her former boyfriend," said Culberson.

Culberson hopes sharing her daughter's story will give other Tri-state women a fighting chance.

A chance Carrie never had.

"A lot of the stuff that happened, I didn't know until after the fact," said Culberson.

Culberson said Carrie was truly fearful for her life before she disappeared.

She says her daughter died at the hands of her former boyfriend -- Vincent Doan.

Although he's behind bars, serving time for her murder -- Carrie's body has never been found.

Now there are women are learning about the abuse Carrie endured, so they can be there for other women.

"At the time of Carrie's disappearance, there was nothing available to Carrie in our area," said Culberson.

"One of the big things that we're trying to do is just get the basic awareness out there, whole scope of the dynamics," said Culberson.

The women gathered at Monday night's training session are wrapping up more than eight weeks of training to help them better assist victims of domestic abuse.

They're volunteers with a new domestic violence outreach program, called "My Sister's House."

It's called "My Sister's House" because one of .... by her live in boyfriend.

Volunteers will be available at all hours -- to help give abuse victims the information and support they need to get out, before it's too late.

"I think the more that is available to the young women, or a woman in any abusive situation, the easier it is," said Culberson. "It takes several times for a woman to leave."

"My Sister's House" is still evolving. The women are working to secure a shelter of their own, so they don't have to refer women to other shelters further away.

If you would like to make a donation -- or if you or someone you know is a victim of domestic violence in the Fayette County area, you can call "My Sister's House" at area code (740) 636-9300.
http://www.wcpo.com/news/2005/local/02/21/sisters_house.html

[oldshirley]

Findcarrie--first, Carrie and her family and friends remain in my thoughts and prayers.
:rose:
What Carrie's mom is doing is much needed. I think this needs to be taught as young as middle school aged girls because some start dating at that age.
I think we are seeing more and more young girls being abused by boyfriends.
It would be nice if there were classes in middle and/or high schools (mandatory classes) that teach life experience.
Tell Debbie I said--good going on what she's doing. I think it's absolutely a wonderful and much needed thing to do.
:rose:

[findcarrie]

Vigil Held In Morrow For Missing Girl

The family and friends of Jessica Lunsford are praying for her safe return.

At a candlelight vigil in Morrow Saturday night, tears fell amidst prayers and song.

Lunsford has been missing for more than 10 days from her home in Citrus County, Florida, just north of Tampa.

Her mother Angie Bryant, who lives in Morrow, has taken leave from her job to be in Florida while they search for clues in her daughter's disappearance.

Her step-son Josh is trying to stay strong for his step-sister and her family.

"I'm holding up as good as I can but I feel crushed right now, said Josh Bryant, Jessica's step-brother, "and I know I'm going to have to deal with the way everybody will change -- but I'm trying to stay strong."

Among those there at the vigil were two parents who know the pain.

Debbie Culberson, mother of Carrie Culberson, and Greg Baker, father of Erica Baker, came to Morrow to lend their moral support.

Culberson said she came because she wanted to be there for Jessica's family just as others have been there for her over the years.

And Greg Baker, who drove all the way from the Dayton area, said he wants to know when the disappearances will end.

Also at the vigil, a bluegrass gospel ensemble offering their music as support.
http://www.wcpo.com/news/2005/local/03/05/vigil_flagirl.html

[findcarrie]

Is murder suspect Michael Fogt somehow connected to the August 1996 disappearance of Carrie Culberson?

While the two cases remain officially separated, there are a number of similarities and coincidences that link the two.

In April and May of last year, investigators from sheriff's offices in Brown, Clinton and Clermont counties and the FBI's Cincinnati office re-opened the search for Culberson's remains. The search was centered beneath a metal barn located off Fayetteville-Blanchester Road near the Brown County and Clinton County line.

The property being searched was owned by Jeanette Spangler of Goshen, whose son, Jarrod Messer, lived on the property two miles from Blanchester, before he was convicted on drug and felonious assault charges in Highland County.

Records from Clinton County Municipal Court indicate Fogt lived at 124 McJunkin Road in Blanchester from 1995 until at least 1998. The McJunkin Road address is approximately one mile from the Fayetteville-Blanchester Road site where investigators searched for Culberson last spring.

Fogt, 40, who has been charged in the death of Cynthia A. Pickens, 39, of the Rocky Fork Lake area in Highland County, is being held under $500,000 bond at the Highland County Justice Center. He will be arraigned at 8 a.m. today in Hillsboro Municipal Court.

Fogt also led the Highland County Sheriff's Office to the discovery of the body of Martha A. Behymer at a Hillsboro property last week. Fogt and Behymer, also known as Martha A. Perry, had a daughter together, who is now 14 and resides with Fogt's parents, according to Highland County Sheriff Ron Ward said.
http://www.wnewsj.com/main.asp?SectionID=15&SubSectionID=44&ArticleID=142586

[BFD - v2.0]

Originally posted by findcarrie
Is murder suspect Michael Fogt somehow connected to the August 1996 disappearance of Carrie Culberson?

While the two cases remain officially separated, there are a number of similarities and coincidences that link the two.

In April and May of last year, investigators from sheriff's offices in Brown, Clinton and Clermont counties and the FBI's Cincinnati office re-opened the search for Culberson's remains. The search was centered beneath a metal barn located off Fayetteville-Blanchester Road near the Brown County and Clinton County line.

The property being searched was owned by Jeanette Spangler of Goshen, whose son, Jarrod Messer, lived on the property two miles from Blanchester, before he was convicted on drug and felonious assault charges in Highland County.

Records from Clinton County Municipal Court indicate Fogt lived at 124 McJunkin Road in Blanchester from 1995 until at least 1998. The McJunkin Road address is approximately one mile from the Fayetteville-Blanchester Road site where investigators searched for Culberson last spring.

Fogt, 40, who has been charged in the death of Cynthia A. Pickens, 39, of the Rocky Fork Lake area in Highland County, is being held under $500,000 bond at the Highland County Justice Center. He will be arraigned at 8 a.m. today in Hillsboro Municipal Court.

Fogt also led the Highland County Sheriff's Office to the discovery of the body of Martha A. Behymer at a Hillsboro property last week. Fogt and Behymer, also known as Martha A. Perry, had a daughter together, who is now 14 and resides with Fogt's parents, according to Highland County Sheriff Ron Ward said.
http://www.wnewsj.com/main.asp?SectionID=15&SubSectionID=44&ArticleID=142586

Interesting. Fogt was charged with felonious assault against Jerrod Messer. The same Jerrod Messer who's pole barn was dug up and they found some of Carrie's clothing buried underneath a concrete slab.

During the time of Carrie's disappearance, Fogt lived less than a mile from the Messer property the pole barn was constructed at. The pole barn was constructed in 1996, but the lean-to where they found the items was constructed in 1998.

This is getting interesting.

[findcarrie]

It will be real interesting if one of them would finally tell us where to FIND CARRIE
This has gone on too long and it's time to have her home.

[PCB50]

Prayers that Carrie will be able to be brought home!

Too long in this he#& that We go thorugh.

For You FindCarrie:rose:

[oldshirley]

It will be real interesting if one of them would finally tell us where to FIND CARRIE
:rose:

[emmeblu]

Originally posted by findcarrie
It will be real interesting if one of them would finally tell us where to FIND CARRIE
This has gone on too long and it's time to have her home.

:rose:

[findcarrie]

HILLSBORO, Ohio -- In the area of Highland County, talk of unsolved murders immediately provokes discussion about the missing Blanchester woman, Carrie Culberson, News 5's Brian Hamrick reported.
Culberson disappeared from Blanchester in August 1996. Her remains were never found.

Although there are interesting links between the buried bodies and the Culberson case, the Highland County sheriff said he is convinced there is no connection between the cases.
Investigators are certain the man accused in the buried bodies cases, Michael Fogt, was not involved in any way with Culberson's disappearance, but he is accused in three other cases, Hamrick reported.

Fogt is accused of killing his girlfriend, Cynthia Pickens, whose body was found in a shallow grave under a floor in the body shop Fogt used to own.

Fogt is also a suspect in the murder of Martha Perry, the sheriff said. The body of Perry, also known as Martha Behymer, was found stuffed in a barrel and buried under concrete at the home where Fogt's parents live, Hamrick reported.

Shawn Deardoff was also charged over the weekend with assaulting Shane Neuhaus, who disappeared in 2003. Neuhaus was last seen being beaten in the body shop where Pickens' body was found.

Investigators said they are still trying to determine if Fogt could have played a role in Neuhaus' disappearance.

"We do know that he came up missing during which time he was working for Mr. Fogt," the sheriff said.

Fogt was arraigned Monday and ordered held on $500,000 bond.

Stay tuned to WLWT and refresh ChannelCincinnati.com for additional information.

http://www.channelcincinnati.com/news/4305223/detail.html

[findcarrie]

There's an old saying among investigative reporters that maintains "there are no coincidences." Quite possibly, professional criminal investigators and detectives operate under a similar premise. In other words, if it walks like a duck and if it talks like a duck, chances are pretty good it's not an elephant.

This week's headlines on the Michael Fogt murder case(s) provided a good number of coincidences – coincidences to an almost 9-year-old murder case and coincidences to a month-old, multi-county drug case.

For review, these "coincidences" include:

• Fogt had a common associate, if not a direct relationship, to one Vince Doan, who was convicted of murdering Carrie Culberson. Culberson's body has not been found.

• Law enforcement officials last spring searched the property of this common associate, Jarrod Messer, for clues in the Culberson case.

• Fogt allegedly assaulted Messer several years ago. Messer, allegedly, was less than forthcoming in testifying against Fogt. Why?

• At the time of Culberson's disappearance, Fogt lived about a mile from the property being searched in 2004.

• Fast forward to 2005, and you'll find that Fogt lived next to other criminal suspects, in Ty Baker and Bobby Davis.

That's a lot of coincidences, to be sure. And, not being a very smart person myself, I think it's important to sort these coincidences out by writing them down and seeing if the dots do connect.

However, let's state here and now that this newspaper has nothing whatsoever that ties the Fogt homicides to any other drug-related charges against Baker or Davis. In fact, we are henceforth proceeding under the presumption that these are two separate criminal cases.

Unless other charges are filed or other information becomes available, that's how it should be – in all fairness to both cases.

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Since this newspaper first reported on these high-profile cases, and with all subsequent stories, the thought-process behind the coverage has been this: Be accurate, be fair, be informative to the general public and be beholden to no one.

Basically, that's how any good newspaper operates. It's a good policy. Even beyond the confines of the cynical newsrooms.

Very rarely have I told you about public officials who try to follow these same general principles. More often, you'll hear my rants about this officeholder who's already spent your next tax dollar or that officeholder who can't wait to spend it or some other officeholder who plans to demand more of it.

Highland County residents ought to know this, though. Your county sheriff works most diligently to do the right things and to protect and serve the people. We are fortunate to have many dedicated, hard-working public officials in this county, but for my money, they don't come much better than Sheriff Ron Ward (although he won't like me for saying so).

I don't know this for a fact, but I can imagine the sheriff's days lately have far exceeded the customary 8-hour routine. (Taxpayers don't worry: he doesn't get overtime.) I also can imagine that some of these cases tend to get kind of personal in a small town like Hillsboro. That's too bad. People love to blame the enforcer of the laws – or the messenger who reports the crimes – but each and every one of us has the personal responsibility to obey the law. When we make personal choices to overstep the legal boundaries, we should not blame those entrusted to uphold the laws of the land for our own transgressions.

From this perspective, the community should be damned thankful that we have police and sheriff's departments willing to tackle these criminal elements, who are a potential danger to all of us.

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Lastly, one of the crucial pieces to these criminal cases is the ability to prosecute them in a fair and judicious manner.

Like Forrest Gump, I'm not a smart man. But I hear words like "fair and judicious" and I often think about words like "cruel and unusual."

"Cruel" is in the eye of the beholder. But "unusual" is a legal loophole word, because if all cases were properly prosecuted, there would be nothing "unusual" in the sentences for convicted felons.

Someone once argued with me that the death penalty is "cruel and unusual." No, it isn't. It can be executed (pun intended) by the same sedative procedure as having your wisdom teeth removed. And if states did it often enough, there would be nothing "unusual" about it.

Now, I don't want to convict any career felon in the newspaper; but if I did, I'd probably have a better conviction record than some elected officials. Recently, I was challenged (implored, actually) in a public courtroom to bring any questionable case(s) to the court's attention. This challenge, I have accepted. In future articles, I may endeavor to find reasonable explanations why more than 75 criminal cases in this county have been reduced to misdemeanors or dismissed.

I was told in February "the court's obligation is to apply the law evenly and fairly even though the court's action may be unpopular to some or even all of the community." Let us hope that is, indeed, the case. And by no means is there any suggestion here that it isn't. But sometimes even good public officials like ours need a little "encouragement."

Because I'd really hate to suggest that you, the taxpaying citizens of Highland County, start requesting the public records on court cases such as 04CR172 or 03CR189 or 04CR062 or 04CR032 or 04CR041 or 03CR299 or good ol' 03CR072, where an alleged rapist of children gets out of jail on time served for a misdemeanor. Folks, these are your records. Please, look them up at the clerk of courts office. Read up on these cases, then I've got 70 more for you if you have time.

You have a local law enforcement body that can only do so much. If the prosecution is not followed through, their efforts at stopping crime are pointless. Granted, plea bargains and reductions in charges are all necessary parts of the legal process – and not every arrest has the bona fide evidence and cooperative witnesses needed for a full conviction. However, the reductions in all these sentences ought to be a little less accommodating for the alleged felons.

It's time to give the court-appointed defense lawyers a little more competition.

Rory Ryan is publisher and editor of The Times-Gazette.


There are a lot of coincidences. And, not being a very smart person myself, I think it's important to sort these coincidences out by writing them down and seeing if the dots do connect.
http://www.timesgazette.com/main.asp?SectionID=1&SubSectionID=1&ArticleID=136208

[oldshirley]

:rose:
For Carrie. Hopefully she will be home soon.

[findcarrie]

I thought you all might want to see a few photos from the Cue Center Conference for the Missing from this past weekend. Right at the last minute Ms. Culberson was unable to attend. We took many photos for her so she could see everything.

I'll post a few for you so you may see some of these wonderful people who attended.

This is DeDe Keene from America's Missing & Lost, Sarah Teague (mother of missing Heather Teague), Me (FindCarrie) and Linda Miller (mother of missing Jeffrey Ben
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v639/findcarrieculberson/atcue5.jpg

DeDe Keene, Me and Louise (FindLorne)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v639/findcarrieculberson/atcue1.jpg

This is Evelyn and Lorne Boulet Sr. (Parents of Lorne Boulet)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v639/findcarrieculberson/atcue7.jpg

Jude from Child Seek Network, FindCarrie, Linda Miller, DeDe Keene (AMALP), Mary Lyall, Louise (FindLorne) and Donny Brown (Find Monica Appleton)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v639/findcarrieculberson/atcue11.jpg

More of these photos can be found on Carrie's msg. forum under the Open Chat Forum.
We just cannot say enough nice things about the Cue Center and their effors to help find the missing and to bring those of us together who are searching for them.
Visit their website @ www.NCMissingPersons.Org

[PCB50]

Great photos FindCarrie! It is nice to put the faces with the names.

Great job in all you do too!:seeya:

IN Hope

[findcarrie]

Originally posted by IN Hope
Great photos FindCarrie! It is nice to put the faces with the names.

Great job in all you do too!:seeya:

IN Hope

Patti,

I told Ed that you two should come to this. It would've been great if you two could've joined us :seeya:
Maybe next time

[oldshirley]

Great photos FindCarrie! It is nice to put the faces with the names.

I thought that very same thing--great minds!!!

for Carrie :rose:

[PCB50]

Originally posted by findcarrie


Patti,

I told Ed that you two should come to this. It would've been great if you two could've joined us :seeya:
Maybe next time


Next time for sure! That is if all our employee's show up and work,,,,,lol. Businesses on a Campus is hard to find good help!

Hi Shirl:seeya: I won't say old, as we are in the same age group.
I think we all need to hook up anyway. Grab Ariah, Kelly J, HayPaula and a few more and what a time we would have! Nice to to do. We could go on Oprah as the CourtTV Busy Board Women,,,LOL.

IN Hope

[findcarrie]

I need to say thank-you for Louise (FindLorne) who will be taking the material for Carrie, Patrice and AGH tomorrow to the Center For Hope meeting in NY tomorrow for the missing.

Our group could not attend this event. It was going to be impossible for to go to Cue, NY, and then to California in May for the Kristin Smart event. Although this meeting was just as important as the others...

All of you who will be there tomorrow, please know that we will be thinking of each of you and hoping that you all have a productive day.



:rose: For Lyalls - great people who have taken this situation of their daughter missing to help others.

[findcarrie]

Court TV will airing the segment regaring Carrie's disappearance and murder. It will air this Friday, April 15, 2005 beginning @ 8 p.m. EST and again at 12 Midnight EST.

We are still waiting for the completion of American Justice. The last we heard, it had been sent to Bill Curtis (the narrator) to do the voice over. We are looking forward to this new show. I will post when it's going to be on.

[findcarrie]

Ms. Culberson will be attending the Dept of Justice meeting titled "Identifying the Missing" at the end of April. I wanted to post this as support for her. We were so very sad that at the last minute she was unable to attend the Cue Center Round Table Conference with me and mom.

She is very much for this DNA law being passed that mandates all human remains be put into a system to determine their origin. Nobody should be left to wonder if the remains in question are their missing loved one.

I hope that this meeting is beneficial for all these people who are attending. Please have a safe trip.

[RCOOKE]

That's great Ms Culberson is attending. Kelly Jolkowsky, John Bish, and I are also attending the meeting.

The meeting is a continuation of a task force that began in 2003. The task force is made up of local, state, and federal law enforcement, forensic anthropologists, U.S. Justice Department personnel, missing person agencies, and others.

:rose: :rose: :rose:

[findcarrie]

Originally posted by RCOOKE
That's great Ms Culberson is attending. Kelly Jolkowsky, John Bish, and I are also attending the meeting.

The meeting is a continuation of a task force that began in 2003. The task force is made up of local, state, and federal law enforcement, forensic anthropologists, U.S. Justice Department personnel, missing person agencies, and others.


I think that it will be a great opportunity for all of you to learn something and possibly put a plan into action that will help find these people a lot quicker.
Make sure you all post the results of the meeting afterwards.:read:

[findcarrie]

BUMP...

Still looking for you girl.

[findcarrie]

AETV's American Justice will be airing the NEW show that was filmed back in November about Carrie's disappearance and murder. The show will come on Wednesday, May 25, 2005 beginning @ 8 PM EST . We have all been anxiosly awaiting this new show. It will be approximately an hour long and it will include several interviews from those who were near Carrie before she vanished and of course from the convicted killer Vincent Doan. This show will be different from CTV's show and those from Dateline and Lifetime TV for women. We hope you all can watch this.

[oldshirley]

Thinking of Carrie's mom today :rose:

[findcarrie]

Originally posted by justiceiscoming
First of all I want to set something straight Vincent Doan never knew Fogt he even never heard of him and Vincent knew of Messer through Carrie but never associatet with him. Fogt is a serial killer who lived in Blanchester from 1994 until 1998 he already confessed to two murders and told investigators that he could give them a body for the next 12 days they found Carries shirt burried under concrete underneat Messers barn come on People that shows that Fogt and Messer are responsible for Carries dissapearance and Murder...

Somehow the jury didnt see it that way. I'm glad you have found your way onto Carrie's forum yet once again to begin starting the constant BS we have to endure on a daily basis. Take your drempt up fantasies back over there where you came from. This thread is not a fan club for Vincent Doan. Your information is WRONG that CARRIE knew Fogt. She never knew that man. HOwever Vincent Doan knew Fogt and Messer. We know that to be factual.

[RebelAngel]

:rose: :rose:
I came in to see if there were any updates.......haven't heard much since the building search........what a same some people have to spew garbage, where we are looking for answers & support........God Bless Carrie, Ms Culberson & loved ones

[findcarrie]

Originally posted by RebelAngel
:rose: :rose:
I came in to see if there were any updates.......haven't heard much since the building search........what a same some people have to spew garbage, where we are looking for answers & support........God Bless Carrie, Ms Culberson & loved ones

Rebel,

Not a lot has been going on with Carrie's case since that excavation we had last year. There are other items of interest that police continue to work on, but do not make it to the papers or message forums. Each day that passes, we continue this long road of searching for Carrie's remains. We know that we are not looking among the living, we are basically trying to find her final resting place. Sometimes we are ridiculed for what the jury found and that is just the way it is.
We feel that with the support and the fact we all have turned this over to God, that eventually he will reveal where Carrie is and we can close this final chapter to this almost 9 year nightmare her family has had to endure.
I know that people are probably sick of seeing me and hearing about this case, but I'll be around until she is found, however long that takes. I thank each person who has been there for us and supported finding Carrie. As this will never end until she is brought home to have the proper burial she deserves. This is what any human being deserves.

Originally posted by findcarrie


Rebel,

Not a lot has been going on with Carrie's case since that excavation we had last year. There are other items of interest that police continue to work on, but do not make it to the papers or message forums. Each day that passes, we continue this long road of searching for Carrie's remains. We know that we are not looking among the living, we are basically trying to find her final resting place. Sometimes we are ridiculed for what the jury found and that is just the way it is.
We feel that with the support and the fact we all have turned this over to God, that eventually he will reveal where Carrie is and we can close this final chapter to this almost 9 year nightmare her family has had to endure.
I know that people are probably sick of seeing me and hearing about this case, but I'll be around until she is found, however long that takes. I thank each person who has been there for us and supported finding Carrie. As this will never end until she is brought home to have the proper burial she deserves. This is what any human being deserves.


:rose:

[oldshirley]

I know that people are probably sick of seeing me and hearing about this case, but I'll be around until she is found, however long that takes. I thank each person who has been there for us and supported finding Carrie. As this will never end until she is brought home to have the proper burial she deserves. This is what any human being deserves.

I hope you never stop posting, even after you bring Carrie home.

:rose:

[findcarrie]

Originally posted by oldshirley
I know that people are probably sick of seeing me and hearing about this case, but I'll be around until she is found, however long that takes. I thank each person who has been there for us and supported finding Carrie. As this will never end until she is brought home to have the proper burial she deserves. This is what any human being deserves.

I hope you never stop posting, even after you bring Carrie home.

:rose:

Shirley,

Somehow I think I'm in way too deep to ever walk away from these missing people. It's not just about Carrie anymore, it's about so many others. I was telling mom in the hotel the other night that this is about all I really care about anymore. That may seem weird but so be it. It's important to me and it will always be.

[oldshirley]

It's important to me and it will always be.

You are definitely making a difference.
We have a missing woman here (Kathy Haskell) and imo her disappearance is very suspicious and reminds me somewhat of Carrie's (there's just too many of these kinds of cases it seems).
Unfortunately, Kathy Haskell's family isn't in this city and I believe her dad is not in very good health so I don't really think she has people searching for her like Carrie.
So you are doing something wonderful here in a tragic situation.
:rose:

[findcarrie]

Shirley,

Is this her?
http://www.eg.bucknell.edu/~hyde/jackson/kathyHaskell.html

[oldshirley]

Yes that's her.
She has a little boy that's now in the custody of her ex who btw was the last person to see her.
He divorced her right after she went missing.

[HeronInTheSnow]

Originally posted by findcarrie
AETV's American Justice will be airing the NEW show that was filmed back in November about Carrie's disappearance and murder. The show will come on Wednesday, May 25, 2005 beginning @ 8 PM EST . We have all been anxiosly awaiting this new show. It will be approximately an hour long and it will include several interviews from those who were near Carrie before she vanished and of course from the convicted killer Vincent Doan. This show will be different from CTV's show and those from Dateline and Lifetime TV for women. We hope you all can watch this.

I have a note at home and a note here but I am still afraid I will miss seeing it. I also wonder if it is more than one hour, because the stupid Amber Frey movie is on the same night, but not until 9pm. I was glad they are not starting at the same time so hopefully many viewers will not be diverted. peace

[findcarrie]

Here is a little TV footage from the upcoming show on Wednesday night @ 8. These are various blurbs from the actual show.


http://www.aetv.com/tv/shows/amerjustice/episode.jsp?aid=15213205

[findcarrie]

Originally posted by HeronInTheSnow


I have a note at home and a note here but I am still afraid I will miss seeing it. I also wonder if it is more than one hour, because the stupid Amber Frey movie is on the same night, but not until 9pm. I was glad they are not starting at the same time so hopefully many viewers will not be diverted. peace

Herron,

what channel is that amber frey movie going to come on? I'll watch that too

[HeronInTheSnow]

Originally posted by findcarrie


Herron,

what channel is that amber frey movie going to come on? I'll watch that too

i think cbs, but i have to check. do you know if the culberson special is one hour long? peace

oops didnt see your previous post, i'll go look

[dalma3604]

Originally posted by findcarrie
AETV's American Justice will be airing the NEW show that was filmed back in November about Carrie's disappearance and murder. The show will come on Wednesday, May 25, 2005 beginning @ 8 PM EST . We have all been anxiosly awaiting this new show. It will be approximately an hour long and it will include several interviews from those who were near Carrie before she vanished and of course from the convicted killer Vincent Doan. This show will be different from CTV's show and those from Dateline and Lifetime TV for women. We hope you all can watch this.


I am planning on watching American Justice Wednesday. I didn't know about the Lifetime movie. What was the name of it? Was it an accurate portrayal as to what happened? Thanks.

[HeronInTheSnow]

Originally posted by findcarrie
Here is a little TV footage from the upcoming show on Wednesday night @ 8. These are various blurbs from the actual show.


http://www.aetv.com/tv/shows/amerjustice/episode.jsp?aid=15213205

I looked at the four video clips.. I hope the balance of the show isn't like the balance of those clips. he's easygoing... right. what about the space heater incident? real easygoing..... :flamemad: anyway I'll be watching. thanks

[findcarrie]

This is an opinion and thought of what may happen tomorrow. Please take this into consideration when replying or simply reading.

AETV includes four media clips that are going to be part of the new show about Carrie's disappearance tomorrow night beginning @ 8 p.m. These interview blurbs (although I am partial to Carrie) showed me yet once again that probably after this show airs that there will be some more negative feelings towards Doan for his role in Carrie's disappearance. The interviews that I've seen thus far are from people who had little or no credibility, plus the fact they were all relatives of the killer to the jury who tried this case. These statements I made were my observations of the material I had before me and what the jury found against Doan.

Also, tomorrow night we are probably going to be discussing the new show and viewer's information on Carrie's forum where it can be a more controlled atmosphere. I look for this thread to go back under lock down as it does each time anything airs regarding Carrie's disappearance. It's due to the attack that comes after those who clearly disagree with the facts of the case and the jury's findings.

Come see us and give us your thoughts tomorrow after the show airs.

[HeronInTheSnow]

where is the forum you mention? thanks

PS my puter at home has almost died so i cant be there in the PM anyway, but i will check it out at work. peace

[findcarrie]

http://findcarrie.conforums.com

[HeronInTheSnow]

oh, sorry, yes, I have seen this before. Thanks!!

[findcarrie]

We would like to hear your feedback tonight after the AETV show airs. Thinking of Debbie this afternoon. Hoping that this show will prompt that one person who knows to find it in their heart to give her body's location. Let's do the right thing.

[HeronInTheSnow]

Originally posted by findcarrie
This is an opinion and thought of what may happen tomorrow. Please take this into consideration when replying or simply reading.

AETV includes four media clips that are going to be part of the new show about Carrie's disappearance tomorrow night beginning @ 8 p.m. These interview blurbs (although I am partial to Carrie) showed me yet once again that probably after this show airs that there will be some more negative feelings towards Doan for his role in Carrie's disappearance. The interviews that I've seen thus far are from people who had little or no credibility, plus the fact they were all relatives of the killer to the jury who tried this case. These statements I made were my observations of the material I had before me and what the jury found against Doan.

Also, tomorrow night we are probably going to be discussing the new show and viewer's information on Carrie's forum where it can be a more controlled atmosphere. I look for this thread to go back under lock down as it does each time anything airs regarding Carrie's disappearance. It's due to the attack that comes after those who clearly disagree with the facts of the case and the jury's findings.

Come see us and give us your thoughts tomorrow after the show airs.

I'll be watching. thanks http://www.aetv.com/tv/shows/amerjustice/

[findcarrie]

We've gotten some emails today from people who missed the show and wondered when it would come on again or how to get a copy.
We have a total of four shows that were done on Carrie's disappearance. If you would like a video tape of all of that, send me a message. We will give you an address to send a blank VHS tape in a self addressed stamped padded mailer. I'll mail you the Carrie informational shows, along with some other information on the case.
We have Carrie press kits now for all those who are sincerely interested in the case. We do not charge for these items.

[RebelAngel]

Praying :rose: :rose:
It really breaks my heart every time I see Ms Culberson on TV...She is not asking for the earth to be moved....She only wants to bring her precious daughter home~ to be at peace. Everyone deserves this at the very least. Someone Please tell.

[findcarrie]

We just updated Carrie's online photo album today if you'd like to see it. I put pictures from all during her life on there. I also have a page up now that shows her statue that is in Blanchester. Ohio. THese items were added to give people a more personal look inside the life of Carrie before she was taken.

Memorial Page
http://www.findcarrieculberson.com/CarriesMemorial.html

Updated Photo Album
http://www.findcarrieculberson.com/carriephotopage.html

[RebelAngel]

:rose: :rose:
What a awesome job on the updates........you really capture Carrie's beauty & spirit. I pray 2005 is the year for answers!

[findcarrie]

Carrie's memory now only lives in our hearts. I want people to see her and remember her face. That's why we have so many photos of her up on the site. She was beautiful and when God is ready, we will find her and bring her home to a proper burial. In the mean time, we will keep looking and tell her story to as many as we can.

:rose: :rose: :rose:
For Clarissa Ann
Always In Our Hearts

Thanks to all who took a look at our new photos and the memorial statue page.

[findcarrie]

I forgot to list this page here about the special thank-yous on Carrie's site. We must give credit where it's due to Clinton County prosectuors Bill Peele and Rick Moyer who prosecuted Carrie's murder case. These two are still in office up there. They also continue to work with the Culberson family on the case. Debra Dixon from Channel 12 news is also included on this page. She's a great lady who has taken every opportunity to help the Culberson family and others in the general area who have missing or murdered loved ones. These people are the ones brave enough to seek justice for Carrie.

http://www.findcarrieculberson.com/specialthanks.html

[HeronInTheSnow]

The show is on again right now on A&E. 11pm EST. peace.

[findcarrie]

Originally posted by HeronInTheSnow
The show is on again right now on A&E. 11pm EST. peace.

Herron,

thanks for posting. IT will reair again @ 3 a.m. EST if anybody is up and needs something to watch.

[Ms. Stormie]

Originally posted by findcarrie


Herron,

thanks for posting. IT will reair again @ 3 a.m. EST if anybody is up and needs something to watch.

Thanks findcarrie. I'm sick and can't sleep, so I'll be watching!!!

:rose: For Carrie :rose: :rose:

[HeronInTheSnow]

Originally posted by Ms. Stormie


Thanks findcarrie. I'm sick and can't sleep, so I'll be watching!!!

:rose: For Carrie :rose: :rose:

thanks findcarrie (can I call you FC?) and stormie, hope you feel a bit better by now!!! peace

[findcarrie]

Originally posted by HeronInTheSnow


thanks findcarrie (can I call you FC?) and stormie, hope you feel a bit better by now!!! peace

Herron,

You can call me whatever you want to. I've been called much worse. ;)

We've sent out 5 tapes this week of people wanting Carrie's TV footage. It means a lot to know that people are interested to see it after all this time.

[findcarrie]

Our group is working to get rememberance bracelets for Carrie. We dont know if they'll be ready by August 28th, but they are in the works.

[findcarrie]

Tuesday June 21, 2005, AETV will be reairing the new show that came out a few weeks ago titled What Happened to Carrie Culberson. It will begin @ 7 PM EST.

Thinking of Carrie always. Still looking for you girl.
:rose: :rose: :rose:

[RebelAngel]

:rose: :rose: :rose:

[oldshirley]

I have got to watch that, Findcarrie, can you post a reminder on that day. Thanks. :seeya:

for Carrie :rose:

[findcarrie]

Originally posted by oldshirley
I have got to watch that, Findcarrie, can you post a reminder on that day. Thanks. :seeya:

for Carrie :rose:

yes I'll post. We are running @ the same time as Dateline will be running the interview for Jennifer Wilbanks. It'll probably be missed again by several.

[findcarrie]

Shirley,

Tonight is the night Carrie's show comes on . It is on AETVs American Justice beginning @ 7 PM EST.

Hoping that people will tune into Carrie's show rather than this ridiculous interview on Dateline tonight with the Runaway Bride. :o

[oldshirley]

I'm watching A&E right now and the story about Carrie is on.
Debbie is speaking about the memorial that is there that says "Justice" on it.

[findcarrie]

Originally posted by oldshirley
I'm watching A&E right now and the story about Carrie is on.
Debbie is speaking about the memorial that is there that says "Justice" on it.

Let me know what you think once it ends. You are looking at the statue that was erected in Blanchester last June that stands as a reminder of domestic violence and what happened to Carrie. It was also part of the law suit the Culberson's won against the City of Blanchester for allowing the search to be called off in the pond where the cadaver dog picked up Carrie scent on the boyfriend's relatives property a few days after she vanished.

That night Carrie was taken from the pond and put in a place that we are forever searching for. It was never about the money. It's always about finding Carrie. It'll never be over until we find her body.

[oldshirley]

findcarrie, it's all I can do to stomach seeing VD on tv. I can't imagine how Debbie can watch these shows and stomach looking at him.
I hope all of you get answers very soon.:rose:

[lynnie927]

Originally posted by findcarrie
Shirley,

Tonight is the night Carrie's show comes on . It is on AETVs American Justice beginning @ 7 PM EST.

Hoping that people will tune into Carrie's show rather than this ridiculous interview on Dateline tonight with the Runaway Bride. :o


Does anybody know what time it will be on in the west?!? PLEASE!

[lynnie927]

Originally posted by lynnie927



Does anybody know what time it will be on in the west?!? PLEASE!


I know my question sounds dumb, but sometimes t.v. times are hard for me to get. I know we are 3 hours behind the east, so does that mean it's not on til ten??

[findcarrie]

You are three hours behind us. Seven here is Four there. It came on two times today and 7 was the last time today. :(
It will come on again probably in about a week or so. It's a new show and they'll play it again.

[lynnie927]

Originally posted by findcarrie
You are three hours behind us. Seven here is Four there. It came on two times today and 7 was the last time today. :(
It will come on again probably in about a week or so. It's a new show and they'll play it again.

Hi FindCarrie,

It WAS on here last night at 7pm too, so I did watch it. They mess with our viewing times, so we never know when we'll see a show!!!!

I just wanted to say how sick I am of hearing the Doan family go on and on about their "innocent" son, and smear Carrie's good name with allegations of drug abuse. That Doan thing has nothing to do but tell you all where Carrie is. LWOP better mean just that in this case, therefore what does he have to lose? The respect of a family that blindly follows their son without wanting to know the truth? Or knowing the truth and keeping it to protect their son???

It seems to me that the police department should have been firing idiots when they decided not to drain that pond, or search the Doan property properly. Especially, when those darn foot-prints were found in the bottom of the pond.

Anyway Debbie, I just am amazed at your strength and determination to bring Carrie home to you all, and your fight against these Doan people. I can't imagine living near those people. I'd probably get drunk and go on one.......which is how I felt by the end of the show, I just wanted to punch this creep until he admitted where she is.

Your family are never far from my thoughts. You have waited too long to get Carrie back, may one day you be together again.


Oh yeah, I just wanted to let you know that Carrie's show was on before that Wilbanks interview, so there were no viewers lost to that crap. I hope you get some answers by just the right person that can bring a conclusion to all of this.

Carrie :rose:

[findcarrie]

There are a lot of things that AETV did not give out about the person in jail for Carrie's murder. You can read about it all on Carrie's site. I wont clog up this thread with all that.

It is coming up on 9 years now but the fight will never be over until Carrie is found. Thank you for taking time to write in and show your support. Debbie appreciates all messages. Come chat with us about the case any time on Carrie's site.

www.FindCarrieCulberson.Com

God bless you and all those who care.

[findcarrie]

Originally posted by cowbeller
My son and I watched the show Findcarrie. Left no question in my mind that Doan did it Too bad the LE that called off the search as soon as the dogs hit wasn't put in jail for adeing and abetting, he just got to retire early with his benefits.

He is also being allowed to teach criminal justice in Florida now. That is disgusting.

[HeronInTheSnow]

Carrie :rose:

[cleo718]

I saw the show for the first time last week. I thought it was well done and Debbie was so strong.

I hope and pray that they find Carrie for her so that finally, she can get some peace in her life.

I cried when they said she had to admit to herself that Carrie wasn't coming home in order to convince the jury that Carrie had been murdered.

How awful.

Carrie:rose:

Debbie:rose:

[findcarrie]

[
I cried when they said she had to admit to herself that Carrie wasn't coming home in order to convince the jury that Carrie had been murdered.

How awful.

Carrie:rose:

Debbie:rose: [/B][/QUOTE]

Debbie told me the hardest days of this whole ordeal was when Bill Peele and Richard Moyer (The Clinton Co. Prosecutors) called her into the office and said that they were upgrading the charges against Doan from Kidnapping to Kidnapping & Murder and that she'd have to understand that Carrie was never coming home alive. This was the time she had to give up hope and that Carrie was no longer among the living.
When she talks about Carrie she'll say in a lower tone of voice. Carrie is now in heaven, but it's her body I need to find. She says I know her suffering is over, and when God is ready he will reveal the whereabouts of her body.
NO mother should EVER have to speak those words. :flamemad:

[RebelAngel]

:rose: :rose: :rose:

[findcarrie]

Bumping this for Clarissa Ann.
You are still missing but you are not forgotten

:rose: :rose: :rose:

8-28-05 = 9 Yrs.

[oldshirley]

:rose:

[findcarrie]

There is a new website that is funded by Crime Stoppers in Ohio. THe website URL is www.ohiomissingadults.com. They have added Carrie to their online database. If you have a missing loved one from Ohio, please contact them to have them the person in question on the site.

[PCB50]

:rose: For You Carrie!:rose: For Debbie

:rose: For All of Carrie's Family & Friends

IN Hope

[findcarrie]

The Writer has Spelled Carrie's Name Wrong Numerous Times In This Article



HAMILTON — Two new Web-based programs launched this week are designed to help public officials and citizens hone in on specific areas of law enforcement — finding missing adults and keeping track of sexual offenders after their release from prison.

Ohio Attorney General Jim Petro, this week, launched the state’s participation in an online national sex offender registry.

Ohio joins 20 other states and the District of Columbia in development of the national database that will allow users to track registered sex offenders living in any of participating areas.

In May, U.S. Attorney General Alberto Gonzales announced the selection of Ohio’s electronic Sex Offender Registration and Notification database known as eSORN as one of the first links to the national site. The eSORN system is managed by the state’s 88 county sheriff’s departments.

The U.S. Department of Justice plans to eventually have all state sex-offender registries linked via the national search engine.

“Along with Ohio’s 88 county sheriffs, I am pleased that we now have a public tool that tracks the whereabouts of sex offenders across state lines,” Petro said. “Thanks to the sheriffs’ hard work, Ohio has developed one of the most comprehensive state sex-offender databases in the country. We are honored to be one of the first states selected to participate in the national sex-offender search engine.”

In a separate move, Petro also announced the awarding of a $25,000 grant to Crime Stoppers for a toll-free tip line and Web site designed to help locate missing adults — both of which also were launched this week.

The around-the-clock statewide tip line automatically connects tipsters’ calls from Ohio to their local Crime Stoppers chapter.

According to Petro, many of the state’s 18 Crime Stoppers chapters previously did not have the ability to man a 24-hour tip line.

Complementing the tip line is a Web site devoted to posting and update information and photographs about missing adults.

Among those already featured on the site are 22-year-old Carrie Culbertson, whose disappeared from her Brown County home in Southwest Ohio in August 1996.

Culbertson’s estranged boyfriend, Vincent Doan, was convicted in connection with her disappearance and murder although she and her car have never been found.

All information posted on Crime Stopper’s new missing adults Web site will be added to the National Center for Missing Adults Web site once the information is confirmed through Crime Stoppers and local law enforcement.

“On behalf of Ohioans who are missing family members, I want to express my gratitude to Attorney General Petro for providing the assistance,” said Kevin Milers, president of Central Ohio Crime Stoppers, which is managing the site.

Crime Stoppers is a national organization with state chapters.

The local chapter, Miami Valley Crime Stoppers, Inc. was launched in January 1984. According to the local chapter, since its inception more than 2,000 crimes have been solved or cleared; $2,000,000 in narcotics and stolen property have been recovered; and more than $218,500 has been paid in cash rewards as a result of information provided primarily by anonymous tipsters.


http://www.journal-news.com/news/content/news/stories/2005/07/22/HJN0723CRIMEWEB.html

[RCOOKE]

I'm glad to see Ohio is getting caught up to where a lot of other states already are. I still haven't been able to get the crimestoppers link to work. The site might not be fully on-line yet.

Robert
http://rachelcookesearch.org

[findcarrie]

Please be advised that the same invidual who has continued to cause discord and harassment for the Culberson family and myself has since been released from a 2 month stent in the can and has proceeded to erect yet another unaproved website including the Culberson families information. We've had the previous one taken down, and will do the same for this one as well. Use the upmost caution with this group as IT IS NOT sanctioned nor approved by Carrie's family. Nothing in a Yahoo group is associated with us.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CarrieCulbersonVoice/

[findcarrie]

Originally posted by RCOOKE
I'm glad to see Ohio is getting caught up to where a lot of other states already are. I still haven't been able to get the crimestoppers link to work. The site might not be fully on-line yet.

Robert
http://rachelcookesearch.org

At various times of the day, the entire site will go down. :shrug:
It's still in the beginning stages. I emailed them immediately when I saw they had a website in Ohio. I wanted Carrie to be listed with the others. We need one of these for every state.

[oldshirley]

Originally posted by findcarrie
Please be advised that the same invidual who has continued to cause discord and harassment for the Culberson family and myself has since been released from a 2 month stent in the can and has proceeded to erect yet another unaproved website including the Culberson families information. We've had the previous one taken down, and will do the same for this one as well. Use the upmost caution with this group as IT IS NOT sanctioned nor approved by Carrie's family. Nothing in a Yahoo group is associated with us.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CarrieCulbersonVoice/

FC: Are you saying the group in the above link you posted IS NOT a sanctioned group? Just had to make sure, don't want to visit any of those that are run by someone other than Carrie's family.

[findcarrie]

That link above is set up by someone that IS NOT one of us. We have NOT approved that and we are having it removed like the others she has put up. Pay close attention to the wording she uses. She spells words backwards and user poor grammar. That is NOT one of our group.:rolleyes:

[PCB50]

This is another clear case of someone else wanting to control what is not their business to control!

Do people like this not know what this does for the Family?

For You FindCarrie:rose:
For Debbie:rose:


Most importantly for
Carrie:rose:

Thanks findcarrie for giving me the info the other day. I spoke with Debbie and look forward to meeting with Her and our Family hooking up with Her to help and support her in her fight to find Carrie!

Good ole Next of Kin!

IN Hope

[oldshirley]

Originally posted by findcarrie
That link above is set up by someone that IS NOT one of us. We have NOT approved that and we are having it removed like the others she has put up. Pay close attention to the wording she uses. She spells words backwards and user poor grammar. That is NOT one of our group.:rolleyes:

Thanks.
You know Carrie and her family and friends are always in my thoughts and prayers.
:rose:

[HeronInTheSnow]

maybe it should be renamed... clearly?

[findcarrie]

I think what is happening is that people read the thread for Doan and some of the comments that are posted on there are not only ridiculous they can often times be disparaging towards the victim and her family.
Some of the people who have been following this case have posted on that thread over there and it's a WHOLE different horse of a color when one of ours says something. I'd recommend just not reading that trash. I'm just thankful they are kept off this thread here.
It's the same problem that we've had from the beginning. This is the only way to get back at the courts findings.

Just dont read it and dont respond. As Deb Dixon told us...t hat is validation each time you even stoop to that level, and we are above that 100%

[oldshirley]

Thanks FC.
For Carrie :rose:

[oldshirley]

My stepson and his girlfriend are both 22--they are far from being grown up even though they think they are. They live together in an apartment and pay a lot of their own bills, but that doesn't make them grownups. I wish people could see that 22, especially to a parent, is still a kid.
My stepson, his g/f and all their friends in that age group are very naive about things (and one of the girls is going through a domestic violence relationship which scares me).
If nothing else, we can learn from Carrie's case and the other victims of domestic violence, that yes, it can cost us our lives.
For Carrie :rose:
For the other victims of DV::rose:

[PCB50]

Originally posted by oldshirley
My stepson and his girlfriend are both 22--they are far from being grown up even though they think they are. They live together in an apartment and pay a lot of their own bills, but that doesn't make them grownups. I wish people could see that 22, especially to a parent, is still a kid.
My stepson, his g/f and all their friends in that age group are very naive about things (and one of the girls is going through a domestic violence relationship which scares me).
If nothing else, we can learn from Carrie's case and the other victims of domestic violence, that yes, it can cost us our lives.
For Carrie :rose:
For the other victims of DV::rose:

Well said Shirley!

[findcarrie]

Patti,
Going to try to call you again maybe this Saturday night or Sunday afternoon. Thank you and Shirley for always supporting us. It means a lot.

[PCB50]

Cool!

I am going to be at work until 6 p.m., but get me on my cell!
Sunday at home doing the woman thing,,,,,cleaning house!

Too bad I cannot hire a house cleaner! I would have to clean before they came in,,,lol...Then I could spend my time searching for Missing.

[findcarrie]

Originally posted by IN Hope
Cool!

I am going to be at work until 6 p.m., but get me on my cell!
Sunday at home doing the woman thing,,,,,cleaning house!

Too bad I cannot hire a house cleaner! I would have to clean before they came in,,,lol...Then I could spend my time searching for Missing.

We were just talking about this. Wouldnt it be nice to be able to do this all the time. It's surely where my heart is. Maybe God will open the door when he's ready for me if it's to happen. :seeya:

[PCB50]

How ironic that We all are on the same page.

Higher powers will make this happen! I was just speaking about the same thing with another person whom is a paid employee for another group I belong with.

Of course we do not want Restrictions on Who we can help. IE: Only Children and not Adult's!

Federal guidelines are and can be so restrictive. So, as I continue to type this I am continuing to enter online to get on our Hoosier Millionaire Lottery Show at the State Fair,,,LOL. Then, We can make our own rules!

:seeya: Back at Ya!

p.s. I cannot wait til All of us can meet in person. Of course it better be a place where we can talk,,,lol. You all are and have been such a blessing in my life since Karen Jo disappeared. Our Family just keeps growing.:rose:

[oldshirley]

Cabin, I'd say just ignore them and don't read what they have to post. IMO, it's their intent to inflame the people who care about Carrie.
jmo
For Carrie :rose:

[findcarrie]

This is the same problem we have had for the last three years since Carrie's website was launched. Naturally the community will be outraged when they read the stuff that is being posted. We do know who these people are and thing have been done constantly to take down inappropriate posts, websites, etc. that support Doan (which is fine) but slam the victim and her mom. As stated previously, this is the only way to aggrivate and attempt to intimidate those who were on the positive side of the courts findings. This is not our fault that they found him guilty.
We have one of the convicts being released in September and this will leave the main one behind bars. THis is not appealing because some believe he should be released from jail as the other one, but he is not. This is how we are retaliated against.

That brings a word that starts with a C to my mind. It's ongoing but as the lead detective told me... if you really knew these people posting this stuff that is upsetting, you'd laugh and not be upset because these people are NOT considered by society as truthful nor professionals in this town. Just dont read that trash. If you see something that is way out of line, report it to one of us, and I'll pass it to those who are working to stop it because I assure you, Clinton County officials are constantly reading and watching for the simple reason, we are looking for Carrie and we will be until she's found.:patriot:

ps... one of them has a daughter, another has two. their daughters are involved in the harassment. Interesting isnt it. LOL

[findcarrie]

A star has been deciated to Carrie Culberson who will be missing on Aug. 28th for nine years. Members of Angel Garden of Hope dedicated three stars, the first being Carries. The star's purpose is to give a designated light of hope to the person who is missing. They may be used for other purposes, but we felt these stars were perfect for these people that they were given to. If you would like something like this for someone you love, please email us. Once the stars are paid for and registered, they will remain in place, in the person's name forever. Some of you may see a post for Heather Teague having a star dedication as well. Both her mom and Carrie's mom have become aquainted since both their daughters vanished almost on the same date but one year apart. See also Heather Teague's thread for information on the Day for Heather that will be on August 26, 2005.

[KellyJolkowski]

I think this is a lovely idea. May I ask how much it costs?

Kelly

[findcarrie]

From $54 to $139. Those are the starter packages that will include a star chart, certificate that contains the stars name, example: Carrie's Star of Hope, etc. , framed, star chart so u can find it in the sky, and other things - depends on the package you get.

You can pick these stars to where they are dedicated for instance on August 28, 1996 but they are visible in the night time sky mostly in the month the person (Carrie for instance) was born. We did them like this so the star wasnt always a sad reminder.

I came up with this idea about the star in the night time sky. It may sound lame, but just give it a try.

The stars in the night time sky are small pin holes that God has punched into the sky so that we can see small samples of the beautiful light from heaven above (if you believe that way). They have to be small pin holes because the human eye cannot view heaven's light. It's too bright and beautiful. The stars infinite just as Gods love. I thought, let's designate just one of those lights in the night time sky for somebody who is lost or missing. That light shall guide them home, similar to the star of Bethleham helped the wise men (once again if you believe that way).
I believe that through God all things are possible as does these families that these stars were dedicated to. That light in the night time sky will shine forever in their name.

Sorry for the long post but we've had these for a while and wanted to share the reason why we did this.

[oldshirley]

findcarrie, that was simply beautiful. :rose:

[KellyJolkowski]

I agree. Thank you.

Kelly

[findcarrie]

If anybody wants one of these stars, we can give you the information on how to contact these people to see about getting a star.
You'd go to them for orders, not here. We dont sell any products of any sort. Just wanted to make sure that people understood my post.

[KellyJolkowski]

I understood. Could you email me the links to these places, please? I assume they have websites. I just want to offer it asa suggestion to the families we serve.

Thanks!

Kelly

God bless Carrie and her family.

[findcarrie]

Tonight MSNBC's Dateline aired a rerun of a show regarding the disappearances of Anna Scivetti and Kristine Kupka. In the segment, towards the end, they broadcasted some of Carrie's story that included interviews from her mom, and the Clinton Co. Prosecutor's office. The purpose of including Carrie in this show that came out a while back was to show that convictions can be found where the body is missing. These two ladies, Scivetti and Kupka are suspected victims of their boyfriends.

This show will air again tonight @ 1 am EST in its entirety. I didnt know it until just now. Dateline doenst always let us know when this will come on again.

Thought I'd post this in case anybody wanted to see it. It's worth watching to learn about the cases of Anna and Kristine. Two ladies we all are very familiar with.

[findcarrie]

This appears in the Information Thread As Well.


Our group had dedicated some stars to some very dear friends of those of the missing. What happens is that you send in $$$ and they send you a packet to dedicate a star. You pick the stars name and the date you want it to be for. You may also pick a galaxy or time you want the star to be visible in the nighttime sky. Example.... we dedicated Carrie Culberson's star on August 28, 2005 which is the 9 year anniversary since she was taken. The star will appear in the sky mostly in the month of her birthday - January. We did this so the star would not be always a sad reminder.
There is some paperwork involved but it's 100% authentic and it's kinda cool because that person has a star that will shine FOREVER in their name. We titled Carrie, Lorne and Heather's stars... Carrie's Star of Hope, etc. You can call it whatever you want.

Please do not be fooled by the imposters. This link I'm about to post is the authentic National Star Registry. There are some folks who claim to be star namers but they are not and I dont want anybody to send in money to these companies and be disappointed. The National Star Registry will send you documented material and paperwork. This is not cheap but it's worth it if you want it.

I got the idea for this when a next door neighbor did this for one of my missing ladies - Patrice Endres. Patrice has two stars in her name because her husband gave her one back when they first began dating. This lady who is a neighbor did it for Patrice on the anniversary of her disappearance.
With that being said, I'm going to post the link and then the idea I made up inside my head as to why this might be something for somebody you love who is missing.

Reason To Dedicate A Star

The stars in the night time sky are small pin holes that God has punched into the sky so that we can see small samples of the beautiful light from heaven above (if you believe that way). They have to be small pin holes because the human eye cannot view heaven's light. It's too bright and beautiful. The stars infinite just as Gods love. I thought, let's designate just one of those lights in the night time sky for somebody who is lost or missing. That light shall guide them home, similar to the star of Bethleham helped the wise men (once again if you believe that way).


Website to get information on getting a star
http://www.starregistry.com/

[KellyJolkowski]

Thank you. I bookmarked it for future consideration.

Kelly Jolkowski, Mother of Missing Jason Jolkowski
President and Founder,
Project Jason
http://www.projectjason.org
Read our Voice for the Missing Blog
http://voice4themissing.blogspot.com/

[findcarrie]

This is the umteenth group that has been put up that is not affiliated nor approved by the Culberson family. We post this to make sure people know this and do not fall into this trap that's been set.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CarrieCulbersonVoiceForBatteredWomen/

We do not approve nor support any Yahoo Groups that contain her name.

[findcarrie]

On August 28th of this month, Carrie Culberson will be missing for nine years. The following month, one of the individuals who assisted in the disappearance/murder cover-up is due for release from prison. This anniversary will be one of the hardest ones for those who love and miss Carrie because we feel that this sentence was not far as long as it should've been. While we are grateful for what the court granted, we still are not satisfied due to the fact Carrie's body remains missing, and it's a constant reminder each day to awake knowing she's out there somewhere needing to be found and that there are some who know but wont share that with us.

We are asking for each and every person who reads this thread or follows the case to please light a candle inside or outside when it becomes dark on the 28th and let it burn till the next morning. Please say a prayer if you can too. Time does not heal this wound for her family. They need to find Carrie and lay her to rest in a proper burial.

What happened to Carrie was cruel and inhumaine. We are denied so many things. We are turning to a larger power to reveal her location and bring some sort of closure to this ongoing nightmare.
We believe in the power of prayer and what it can do.

My family is going to release 9 red balloons into the air on this date to remember Carrie as well as the candle that will burn through the night. If you want to participate, please do and let us know. I believe if we all come together on this, these things can be revealed.

I also want to say thank-you to each and every person who has supported us through yet another year without finding Carrie.


For Carrie on August 28, 2005
Gone 9 Years
But Not Forgotten
She will be found!!!

:rose: :rose: :rose:

[oldshirley]

:rose:

[KellyJolkowski]

I would like to write up Carrie's story on my blog for the anniversary. Would you ask Ms. Culberson if she would be interested? If so, she can email me, and I will email her a set of interview questions.

Thanks.

Kelly

[PCB50]

I will be out of town on the 28th so I wanted this:rose: for Carrie today!

IN Hope
Patti

[findcarrie]

Thinking of Carrie today. Missing for nine years but NOT forgotten.

:rose: :rose: :rose:
For Carrie
8-28-05 - Missing 9 Yrs
Not Forgotten

Thinking of Carrie and her family & friends today.

fourboys

[oldshirley]

Hoping and praying today will be the day Carrie comes home :rose:

For Debbie Culberson :rose: May the lights of the heavens above shine upon you.

[live4love]

:rose: :rose: :rose:


L4L....tears....

[findcarrie]

Our family and members of AGH held a small vigil for Carrie tonight. Some family members did not want to be put online so they are not posted - A small table was set up that contained candles and Carrie's angel. It's location was in our garden. Me and my family let 9 red balloons go for Carrie and one purple balloon for Patrice who has been missing now for a year. A few days before we left a message for Carrie in the sand in Florida. I will include those pictures in this as well. We continue wait for answers and for Carrie's final resting place to be revealed.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v639/findcarrieculberson/Album2/CarrieVigil05/carrievigil7.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v639/findcarrieculberson/Album2/CarrieVigil05/carrievigil6.jpg

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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v639/findcarrieculberson/Album2/CarrieVigil05/carrievigil2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v639/findcarrieculberson/Album2/CarrieVigil05/carrievigil1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v639/findcarrieculberson/Album2/ForCarrie1.jpg

[HeronInTheSnow]

How beautiful, I love especially the picture of the balloons flying..

thanks for posting fc. It must have been a beautiful, sad day.

Carrie and her mom and all who love her :rose:



heron

[oldshirley]

What a beautiful tribute to Carrie. The last picture, the still looking picture, got to me.
:rose:

[findcarrie]

Thinking of Carrie and the Culberson family on this upcoming Sunday, Sept. 18th when Tracey is released from prison for his role in the disappearance & murder of Carrie.
We will never stop looking for Carrie and although our heart aches for the injustice we find confort in knowing that there is one above who knows all things and will handle these things where the courts have fallen short.

[oldshirley]

I will be out of town, but I will keep Carrie's friends and family in my thoughts and prayers.
:rose:

My thoughts are with the Culberson family today...

fourboys